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Elon = Trump 2.0

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Not a Proud Boy, jackass nor have I ever claimed to be.
Never used the word tyrant either, tyranny implies Higdon is abusing his power and he isn't, it's his board he can do what he wants.

You want to say I threw a tantrum and left, I'll wear that because that's what happened.

There's that lying and attributing to other people @BamaFan1137

He is very cooperative with regards to proving our every criticism of him to be obviously true. So he's got that going for him.

He does it constantly. I can't stand a damn liar.
 
So you're an Oath Keeper? Couldn't remember and didn't care enough to go research it

And just lying is so much easier, right?

Did I say you used any specific word? No.

You were complaining about freedom...free speech issue...as I remember

Who said you accused anyone of being a tyrant?
You threw a tantrum about freedom and said you were leaving for good

You absolutely implied exactly that right here.

of a person who announced he couldn't stand the tyranny of the board

It's getting bad when you can't keep up with your own lies and BS brother.


Good we agree on something.

He's a grown ass man...and as such, could teach you a thing or two about being one.
 
ray ray all you do is cry about how the mods demand you be held to the same rules as everyone else. Is this really the hill you are trying to climb? LOL

I even defended him to the BO. Did I get a thank you or even just a hat tip? Of course not.

From a guy like him, I obviously didn't expect it.
 
What's really telling is the focus you all have on personal attacks rather than the thread topic

Its why almost every thread you guys touch turns into a bunch of personal attacks


Its equally comical and disturbing
 
Oh yeah...playing the victim card now huh? 🤣

The conservatives here love to call anyone who disagrees with them every derogatory term they can think of but when people respond to them in a like manner they start the victim crying
 
This, coming from you? 😂

Barney Fife says buy a mirror.

Its a revolving door with many of you

In the face of all evidence contrary to whatever you post...you turn to personal attacks


Take the crimes against humanity evidence...after showing you that institutional racism & slavery had been declared a crime against humanity since the 1800s your response was namecalling and anything to deflect away from you being factually wrong.

Happens a lot around here with conservatives

Want another recent example?

"Breaking & entering" in California is Burglary...which DePape was charged with

So does that defuse the the whole Pelosi invited the guy in conspiracy theory?
Probably not even though the facts say otherwise
 
Oh yeah...playing the victim card now huh? 🤣

The conservatives here love to call anyone who disagrees with them every derogatory term they can think of but when people respond to them in a like manner they start the victim crying

Was I playing victim or setting the record straight with an emphasis on truth and accuracy? lol
 
Was I playing victim or setting the record straight with an emphasis on truth and accuracy? lol


I guess that's YOUR truth....

Mine is posting anything critical of today's conservatives will get the poster a slew of personal attacks
If the board wants to allow conservatives that much leeway I good with it but don't selectively threaten one side and ignore the other side of doing the same thing

Don't worry it won't take the conservative crowd here to do it again...its their M.O.

I'll point it out for all to see
 
In the face of all evidence contrary to whatever you post...you turn to personal attacks

Right back at you. If you'd like more reasonable discourse between us, I'm game. But if not, I'm also game.


Take the crimes against humanity evidence...after showing you that institutional racism & slavery had been declared a crime against humanity since the 1800s your response was namecalling and anything to deflect away from you being factually wrong.

Ray...I've tried to tell you this MANY times. The Hate Crime statute, as a separate offense on its own, is a Federal charge. Maybe some states have them too but I've never heard of them. For sure Alabama, Georgia and California have hate crimes as a sentencing multiplier, not a free standing offense. I provided you with a link that said as much and it listed the states.

Yes, the Feds can come into Alabama, Florida and California and charge someone with a free standing hate crime charge if the evidence supports that. I've never said otherwise. I don't understand how you aren't hearing this???
 
I guess that's YOUR truth....

Mine is posting anything critical of today's conservatives will get the poster a slew of personal attacks
If the board wants to allow conservatives that much leeway I good with it but don't selectively threaten one side and ignore the other side of doing the same thing

Don't worry it won't take the conservative crowd here to do it again...its their M.O.

I'll point it out for all to see

What you aren't hearing is that you are just as guilty. In almost every conversation we've ever had, you led with an insult.

I'm fine with it. I'm also fine if we don't do it. I'll match and mirror what you do.
 
Right back at you. If you'd like more reasonable discourse between us, I'm game. But if not, I'm also game.




Ray...I've tried to tell you this MANY times. The Hate Crime statute, as a separate offense on its own, is a Federal charge. Maybe some states have them too but I've never heard of them. For sure Alabama, Georgia and California have hate crimes as a sentencing multiplier, not a free standing offense. I provided you with a link that said as much and it listed the states.

When this issue came up you said you were against hate crime statutes because they were sentence multipliers
Went so far as to present that view as a math equation

I never said hate crime statutes were NOT used as sentence enhancers...
I said hate crime statutes are standalone crimes not needing an underlying crime to be charged

That has proven to be undeniably true,,,as you now admit they are standalone crimes at the federal level and possibly at the state level



Yes, the Feds can come into Alabama, Florida and California and charge someone with a free standing hate crime charge if the evidence supports that. I've never said otherwise. I don't understand how you aren't hearing this???

Your post?
 
When this issue came up you said you were against hate crime statutes because they were sentence multipliers
Went so far as to present that view as a math equation

I was referring to state crimes, specifically the state of Alabama, where I'm a LEO.
 
A hate crime is a multiplier of the underlying crime Ray.

For example, murder = X punishment. A murder that is ruled a hate crime is X times the multiplier.

That is by definition unequal. You disagree. I'm fine with that. We're done here.

Again, I was referring to state crime and specifically Alabama.

I'm honestly not certain that any state has a stand alone hate crime charge but perhaps some do. As we've discussed, the Feds do...it's a Civil Rights type charge, which seems like duplication imho.

Moving beyond that, I don't understand why murder motivated by racism should be more harshly punished than murder motivated by greed, jealousy or psychosis (serial killer). Murder is murder, regardless of what motivated it. And all Murder 1st and probably all Murder 2nd should merit life sentences without parole if not the death penalty. The malice taking of human life is as bad as it gets...it's the most that a person can take from another.

JMO
 
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Again, I was referring to state crime and specifically Alabama.

I'm honestly not certain that any state has a stand alone hate crime charge but perhaps some do. As we've discussed, the Feds do...it's a Civil Rights type charge, which seems like duplication imho.

Moving beyond that, I don't understand why murder motivated by racism should be more harshly punished than murder motivated by greed, jealousy or psychosis (serial killer). Murder is murder, regardless of what motivated it. And all Murder 1st and probably all Murder 2nd should merit life sentences without parole if not the death penalty. The malice taking of human life is as bad as it gets...it's the most that a person can take from another.

JMO
A crime is a crime. The motivation for it is absolutely useless in the eyes of common law. That includes retaliation murder for revenge crimes where a family member was harmed or killed. The only mitigating factor would be sentencing or a plea down. Yet the woke federalies have created a mythical additional charge. It's bullshit, simply put. It is double jeopardy and should be stricken for unconstitutionality.
 
I'm honestly not certain that any state has a stand alone hate crime charge but perhaps some do. As we've discussed, the Feds do...it's a Civil Rights type charge, which seems like duplication imho.

Moving beyond that, I don't understand why murder motivated by racism should be more harshly punished than murder motivated by greed, jealousy or psychosis (serial killer). Murder is murder, regardless of what motivated it. And all Murder 1st and probably all Murder 2nd should merit life sentences without parole if not the death penalty. The malice taking of human life is as bad as it gets...it's the most that a person can take from another.

JMO

That's fine. And as I said society doesn't agree with that opinion which is why we have hate crime charges

As a matter of fact it was the non-prosecution of crimes in the South that led to the federal hate crime statutes in the first place.

Equal protection under the law for murder wasn't being enforced at the state & local level so the federal government had to step in
 
That's fine. And as I said society doesn't agree with that opinion which is why we have hate crime charges

As a matter of fact it was the non-prosecution of crimes in the South that led to the federal hate crime statutes in the first place.

Equal protection under the law for murder wasn't being enforced at the state & local level so the federal government had to step in

Violation of Civil Rights covers that on a federal level but I digress.
 
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