Think about it man...how old is that movie?!?! Even Clark Griswold found out that Missouri sucked.
Does Mizzouri belong in the SEC?
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sadgator is not willing to simply accept that. Somebody check the tape. sadgator distinctly remembers the Truckster going over the Mississippi heading west before they get lost in St. Louis. Clark says something like, "There it is the Mighty Miss..."
sadgator admittedly has never, nor will ever, go there, so he'll defer to the other area geography experts.
sadgator admittedly has never, nor will ever, go there, so he'll defer to the other area geography experts.
This week's feature story on the controversy brewing over nightclubs in East St. Louis includes this reference to the cinematic masterpiece that is National Lampoon's Vacation:
To many [East St. Louis] will forever be the place where a goofy honky from Chicago named Clark Griswold gets his hubcaps stolen in the movie Vacation.
Caricatures may depict a machine-gun-toting thug on every corner, but the sad reality is that the city is mostly desolate. Virtually every block is dotted with boarded-up or burned-out buildings.
If you've never seen Vacation then you need to update your Netflix queue pronto. In the meantime, here's a clip to give you an idea of the tone of the famed East St. Louis detour:
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/news...-east-st-louis-and-national-lampoons-vacation
To many [East St. Louis] will forever be the place where a goofy honky from Chicago named Clark Griswold gets his hubcaps stolen in the movie Vacation.
Caricatures may depict a machine-gun-toting thug on every corner, but the sad reality is that the city is mostly desolate. Virtually every block is dotted with boarded-up or burned-out buildings.
If you've never seen Vacation then you need to update your Netflix queue pronto. In the meantime, here's a clip to give you an idea of the tone of the famed East St. Louis detour:
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/news...-east-st-louis-and-national-lampoons-vacation
7. Harold Ramis Is Embarrassed By The Scene In East St. Louis
He says it’s the least politically correct scene he’s ever filmed and that he wouldn’t have done it the same way (or maybe at all) today.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-national-lampoons#.an2jxmpKX4
He says it’s the least politically correct scene he’s ever filmed and that he wouldn’t have done it the same way (or maybe at all) today.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-national-lampoons#.an2jxmpKX4
What would be hirlarious would be to play that scene on a large projection screen on the MU quad. Talk about triggers and violations of safe spaces. Not sure if the little snowflakes would melt away or reduce the quad to a pile of rubble.
sadgator thinks it is amusing that we are debating the scene location in Vacation...good stuff...
"At the time, a reader wrote-in and pointed out that the Griswolds are actually shown crossing the Mississippi River from the Illinois to the Missouri side before leaving the freeway and getting lost, therefore they couldn't possibly be in East St. Louis. However, as they're taking the exit, the camera cuts briefly to a freeway sign that says "East St. Louis." This geography mixup is pointed out in the "Goofs" section of the film's IMDB page, which also says the error has been edited out in some versions.
Here's what Ramis (the legend who also wrote and directed Ghostbusters, Caddyshack, and a dozen other classics) had to say about the sequence:
"They go over the [Poplar Street] bridge before it happens, so technically it would be in St. Louis," Ramis says of the scene in which Chase gets lost and prefaces his request for directions from the locals with an incomparably delivered "Excuse me, homes."
Many a moviegoer has misattributed the scene to East St. Louis, including writers at the New York Times and the Hollywood Reporter. Not so St. Louis' own Steve Kratky, who called attention to the gaffe in a letter to the editor (see page 6).
"Nine out of ten people [in St. Louis] project their own image of East St. Louis onto the screen," says Ramis, a Washington University grad. "When I was in college, we used to go there to listen to music. It was always considered an edgy thing to do."
Ramis, who shot the "Excuse me, homes" bit on a Warner Bros. back lot in Hollywood, says he regrets having filmed it in the first place.
"I apologize for the whole scene," says Ramis. "I wouldn't think of doing a thing like that now. It was supposed to be about prejudice, when in fact it was prejudiced."
"At the time, a reader wrote-in and pointed out that the Griswolds are actually shown crossing the Mississippi River from the Illinois to the Missouri side before leaving the freeway and getting lost, therefore they couldn't possibly be in East St. Louis. However, as they're taking the exit, the camera cuts briefly to a freeway sign that says "East St. Louis." This geography mixup is pointed out in the "Goofs" section of the film's IMDB page, which also says the error has been edited out in some versions.
Here's what Ramis (the legend who also wrote and directed Ghostbusters, Caddyshack, and a dozen other classics) had to say about the sequence:
"They go over the [Poplar Street] bridge before it happens, so technically it would be in St. Louis," Ramis says of the scene in which Chase gets lost and prefaces his request for directions from the locals with an incomparably delivered "Excuse me, homes."
Many a moviegoer has misattributed the scene to East St. Louis, including writers at the New York Times and the Hollywood Reporter. Not so St. Louis' own Steve Kratky, who called attention to the gaffe in a letter to the editor (see page 6).
"Nine out of ten people [in St. Louis] project their own image of East St. Louis onto the screen," says Ramis, a Washington University grad. "When I was in college, we used to go there to listen to music. It was always considered an edgy thing to do."
Ramis, who shot the "Excuse me, homes" bit on a Warner Bros. back lot in Hollywood, says he regrets having filmed it in the first place.
"I apologize for the whole scene," says Ramis. "I wouldn't think of doing a thing like that now. It was supposed to be about prejudice, when in fact it was prejudiced."
Well I think we can agree that there are not so nice places on both sides of the Mississppi.
We can also agree that it's great to be a Gator and will be much better watching us play in the SECCG than it will Mizzou (and certainly much more better than watching the Vols or Dawgs).
We can also agree that it's great to be a Gator and will be much better watching us play in the SECCG than it will Mizzou (and certainly much more better than watching the Vols or Dawgs).
I liked it the best when the SEC had the 'rambling wreck' of Georgia Tech (my Dad's Alma mater) in the league - that school has a lot of good southern traditions and being in Atlanta (when the sec championship game didn't exist) was a plus. Can you imagine Georgia Tech being in the SEC east? The Techies would have made a fun rivalry with Florida along with a host of other SEC schools. Now, South Carolina and Arkansas are fine additions but they previously had more in common with the ACC and the old SWC schools, respectively, than the sec schools. I will credit these two schools of developing some new, healthy SEC rivalries over the last 2 1/2 decades: i.e, USCe vs Georgia/Tennessee/Florida and Arkansas vs LSU/Alabama.
Previously, I thought Missouri had more in common with the Big10 schools/border states (i.e, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota). But, the Bi10 chose to add Maryland and Rutgers to their conference which I found both to be odd selections.
Adding Missouri and Texas A&M did expand the SEC footprint into new TV markets. It also continued to add a Big12 flavor with schools like Arkansas & LSU who recruit the state of Texas heavily. By adding Missouri in the east, I think that the competition has greatly increased for Florida in many of its sports (i.e, football, basketball, ?soccer/volley ball/field hockey, etc.). It just means that the Gators will have to try that much harder to win sec titles in those same sports.
Missouri is probably doing the best that they can under the circumstances.
Previously, I thought Missouri had more in common with the Big10 schools/border states (i.e, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota). But, the Bi10 chose to add Maryland and Rutgers to their conference which I found both to be odd selections.
Adding Missouri and Texas A&M did expand the SEC footprint into new TV markets. It also continued to add a Big12 flavor with schools like Arkansas & LSU who recruit the state of Texas heavily. By adding Missouri in the east, I think that the competition has greatly increased for Florida in many of its sports (i.e, football, basketball, ?soccer/volley ball/field hockey, etc.). It just means that the Gators will have to try that much harder to win sec titles in those same sports.
Missouri is probably doing the best that they can under the circumstances.
Vacation had one of the greatest lines in the History of Cinema.
"Who do I look like? Christopher Columbo???"
"Who do I look like? Christopher Columbo???"
