Does Mizzouri belong in the SEC?
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Good point. I mentioned this today elsewhere. Would this EVER happen at a core SEC school? EVER? Not even Vandy. But 98% of their students are too busy studying to embark on faux crap like this. If in fact there was institutional discrimination wouldn't you go to the press and board of regents and complain rather than do stupid crap that could get you kicked out of school or cause you to lose your scholarship? That's what I just don't get. Are students these days willing to jump on a witch hunt bandwagon, screw their parent's money invested (or their own) be damned?
Something about this just stinks to high hell. If the facts play out this was caused by the president of the university then he got what he deserved. However, what ever happened to due process and a fact finding committee? Something just isn't right here. Isolated incidences of crazies is now somehow the responsibility of the president? We should have had Machen booted immediately for not allowing half time passes out of football games. He did more chit to piss off the Gator fan base openly than this guy did incidentally at Mizzou.
Something about this just stinks to high hell. If the facts play out this was caused by the president of the university then he got what he deserved. However, what ever happened to due process and a fact finding committee? Something just isn't right here. Isolated incidences of crazies is now somehow the responsibility of the president? We should have had Machen booted immediately for not allowing half time passes out of football games. He did more chit to piss off the Gator fan base openly than this guy did incidentally at Mizzou.
Oh for Christs sake. FSU could have won the East a couple of times the past 3 years. The East has sucked since Tebow left. Doesn't mean they belong by any means. Not by a long shot.
sadgator has never liked the Missouri and A&M additions. sadgator still believes that the additions benefitted those schools much more than the conference. Although Missouri easily won the East twice with Fla, Tenn. and UGA being less than their normal strength, something tells sadgator that Missouri in for a rude awakening about what being in this conference is all about.
I'm not sure about the addition of Missouri, but I do think the addition of Texas A&M was a great addition to the SEC.
Halftime re-entry was disallowed starting in 2000. Machen wasn't President until 2004.
My family has lived in St. Louis area for going on 20 years. We have and continue to enjoy living here. Have made wonderful long-time, close friends. But the last year-and-a-half has ranged anywhere from surreal to downright embarrassing.
A (now former) college President being told to check his privilege by folks that include the son of a wealthy executive.....a (now former apparently) media professor asking for some muscle to physically remove someone from a public space....a group of halfwits proclaiming the right to walk forward while pushing a journalism student out of the way....a Twitter panic over the KKK allegedly being confirmed on campus (they were not)....students being encouraged to report incidents of hateful and hurtful speech to MUPD (dripping with irony there) to be investigated for possible disciplinary action....I could go on and ask "What's next?" but I'm pretty sure I would not like the answer to that question.
#mizzerylovescompany
#feelsbadman
A (now former) college President being told to check his privilege by folks that include the son of a wealthy executive.....a (now former apparently) media professor asking for some muscle to physically remove someone from a public space....a group of halfwits proclaiming the right to walk forward while pushing a journalism student out of the way....a Twitter panic over the KKK allegedly being confirmed on campus (they were not)....students being encouraged to report incidents of hateful and hurtful speech to MUPD (dripping with irony there) to be investigated for possible disciplinary action....I could go on and ask "What's next?" but I'm pretty sure I would not like the answer to that question.
#mizzerylovescompany
#feelsbadman
What, FSU would not belong either? If not Missouri, then who?
Make a case. Other than "FSU might have won the east too."
I don't see why this kind of controversy can't happen anywhere.
It's a shame, but I do think that we (all major football schools) are now beginning to reap the results of years of dropping academic standards for athletes and letting football programs run wild. I think that we are at the beginning of a sea change in cultural habits, and college football is going to have to make some changes to survive.
The one place where you probably would never see football players striking is the Ivy's, where the players are just regular students and not some separate gladiatorial class within a school.
It's a shame, but I do think that we (all major football schools) are now beginning to reap the results of years of dropping academic standards for athletes and letting football programs run wild. I think that we are at the beginning of a sea change in cultural habits, and college football is going to have to make some changes to survive.
The one place where you probably would never see football players striking is the Ivy's, where the players are just regular students and not some separate gladiatorial class within a school.
For the record, I'm not faulting the Mizzou players for striking. It sounds like the president was not an effective leader. I'm saying that the feelings of alienation and "exploitation" of football players is a direct result of the issues that I mentioned in my previous post.
Texas A&M is certainly not Mississippi St 2.0. Have you been to a game at College Station? It has the atmosphere/facilities, etc of a SEC program. Much bigger stadium, etc. than MSU
Very sad state of affairs our country has devolved into over the last few years.
But, it will get worse before it gets better. Like the Good Book says in Mathew 24:37, "But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."
BTW, it was pretty bad in the days of Noah....I'm talkin' flood the entire earth and start over bad.
The Ags stadium is a monster. They spent a fortune to rebuild that stadium with many luxury boxes. It is a sight!
However, the Ags will never win anything in the SEC. Sumlin is a good coach, but not elite and they never seem to win the big games. I have never understood why the SEC would include Mizzou. What do they bring? NC St or VT would have made more sense.
I'm happy with A&M but would rather Missouri had never joined the SEC. I don't look forward to the Vandy and UK games. There's nothing in it...UF is expected to win, so there is little to gain. For some reason I see Mizzou in the same vein. I know this doesn't make sense considering on field results, but I just don't give a rip for the UF/Missouri game. Their program and tradition mean little to me, and it doesn't feel like a conference game. Would have greatly preferred to see Va Tech take that 14th spot.
Does St. Louis have a college football market though? It sounds good in theory, but don't know if it makes sense in reality. It would kinda be like adding BC to get the Boston market. That's a huge pro sports town, but BC doesn't get hardly any of that following. Same with a spot like St. Louis. That's a baseball town. It's the Cardinals then everybody else. The Rams have won Super Bowls recently and still barely get anybody to their games.
Middling teams that bring in viewers are the best additions to any conference. They bring money, but don't add too many tough games to your schedules.
Oh well nvm then. If that's the case, maybe we should have gotten somebody like UNC then. They would have killed it there.
I don't get where you derived that from what I said. I merely pointed out that the east has been down since Muschamp arrived. USC was a little better and UGA is well, the usual underachievers. Florida State would have been a better fit than Missouri. FSU screwed the pooch looking down from the 10,000 foot level by not joining the conference. Their desire to follow the easiest path will end up costing them on many levels in the long haul. They are a much better fit for the SEC than MO, southern team, rabid (even if delusional) fan base, geographically desirable addition. I'm okay with A&M, MO, not so much.
Mizzou has no clue what SEC football or tradition is like. A&M was a nice choice, but I'd rather had, oh I dunno, Clemson than Mizzou.
I say kick Missouri's candy ass out and add Virginia Tech. They have every right to embarrass itself but it doesn't have a right to embarrass the SEC.
I am no expert on college football market but St Louis is in the south and southern states traditionally follow CFB
OK. But weak or not, they won the East.
And I agree that FSU screwed up by not joining
Me too. I've always thought Clemson should be in the SEC and SCar should be in the acc
I am not sure where Mizzou fits or what they truly offer, but I do know the Big 10 wanted them for years.
Whenever sadgator thinks of Missouri or St. Louis...this is the only image that comes to his mind...
That market sucks. Lots of talk the Rams are going back to LA. Missouri is only good for one thing. Hunting.
That market sucks. Lots of talk the Rams are going back to LA. Missouri is only good for one thing. Hunting.
Yes indeed. Going to Mizzou in December to slaughter some green heads and again in February to chase the snow geese.
LolWhenever sadgator thinks of Missouri or St. Louis...this is the only image that comes to his mind...
But that was East St. Louis wasn't it? Illinois
