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Do you think Tebow and Aaron Hernandez still talk?

From what I remember, Hernandez pretty much kept to himself for the most part. He DEFINITELY did in the NFL. The patriots all agreed he never talked to anyone in the locker room or was pals with anyone on the team.

I don't remember him having any kind of relationship with Tebow, or did he?
 
I was around him a few times while I lived there, he was an obvious sadistic criminal..
 
Originally posted by sadgator:

Originally posted by grommit:

I don't remember him having any kind of relationship with Tebow, or did he?
Didn't Tim drag him out of a bar fight once? sadgator can't remember ever reading anything about their relationship, but imagines they must have been close at a point.
Like God and Satan?

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Knowing Tebow, I could see him reaching out in attempt to minister to Hernandez.....be surprised if Hernandez gave a chit....
 
This is all assuming Hernandez is guilty. He has yet to have his day in court and has yet to be convicted of a single thing by the USA, but the public by and large has already prejudged him, just like they did with Casey Anthony and that Trayvon guy.
 
Originally posted by grommit:
This is all assuming Hernandez is guilty. He has yet to have his day in court and has yet to be convicted of a single thing by the USA, but the public by and large has already prejudged him, just like they did with Casey Anthony and that Trayvon guy.
I'm not on the jury, I have no problem presuming his guilt...I could be wrong, but he looks guilty as hell to me....
 
I'd expect he talks to Tebow as much as he does Urban on the other shoulder.


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Originally posted by grommit:
From what I remember, Hernandez pretty much kept to himself for the most part. He DEFINITELY did in the NFL. The patriots all agreed he never talked to anyone in the locker room or was pals with anyone on the team.

I don't remember him having any kind of relationship with Tebow, or did he?
They were roommates one year.
 
Originally posted by grommit:
This is all assuming Hernandez is guilty. He has yet to have his day in court and has yet to be convicted of a single thing by the USA, but the public by and large has already prejudged him, just like they did with Casey Anthony and that Trayvon guy.
Casey Anthony? How about OJ? Casey told so many lies to this day even her lawyer does not know what happened. Give him credit for putting (reasonable?) doubt in the minds of the jurors but don't think that means she is innocent of the death or disposal of her daughter.
 
Given what the judge has thrown out and the fact they have no murder weapon and three possible shooters, I wouldn't be surprised if Hernandez walks on the murder charge and gets convicted on the other gun charges. The other possibility is that the jury doesn't care who actually shot him and convicts him anyway because it looks like he was obviously involved.

Does anyone here know for sure: Under the applicable State law, does the prosecution have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hernandez himself pulled the trigger? If so, that will be very difficult.
 
Historically if there's reasonable doubt involved, jurors would rather send an innocent person to prison than a guilty person home.
Although race, gender and social status can also pervert juror verdicts.

I don't understand the logic (probably peer pressure), but it happens all the time.
So I'm going to presume that Hernandez is probably going to be found guilty of something.
 
To answer the question (we are all guessing here), I can imagine them still being in contact. If they are, I would not think anything less of Tim Tebow. In fact, it really would be quite like him to continue to reach out to Hernandez. I really admire Tebow. He is as good a human being as he was a football player. Seems like he always strived for excellence in both.
 
Originally posted by WOLVERNOLE:
To answer the question (we are all guessing here), I can imagine them still being in contact. If they are, I would not think anything less of Tim Tebow. In fact, it really would be quite like him to continue to reach out to Hernandez. I really admire Tebow. He is as good a human being as he was a football player. Seems like he always strived for excellence in both.
yeah, but it has to irk you that he camps out with the OSU side.
 
Originally posted by passoverGator:

Originally posted by WOLVERNOLE:
To answer the question (we are all guessing here), I can imagine them still being in contact. If they are, I would not think anything less of Tim Tebow. In fact, it really would be quite like him to continue to reach out to Hernandez. I really admire Tebow. He is as good a human being as he was a football player. Seems like he always strived for excellence in both.
yeah, but it has to irk you that he camps out with the OSU side.
Meh...I'd say it has more to do with Urban Meyer than it does OSU.
 
Originally posted by Buddy Green:

Given what the judge has thrown out and the fact they have no murder weapon and three possible shooters, I wouldn't be surprised if Hernandez walks on the murder charge and gets convicted on the other gun charges. The other possibility is that the jury doesn't care who actually shot him and convicts him anyway because it looks like he was obviously involved.

This. I thought OJ and Casey Anthony were guilty and look what happened there. The very same could happen with Aaron Hernandez's case.
 
Originally posted by Buddy Green:

The other possibility is that the jury doesn't care who actually shot him and convicts him anyway because it looks like he was obviously involved.
My cousin was sent away for a similar premise. They couldn't prove who was driving. Three buddies got into a truck and one died. All three were drunk. The jury didn't care who was driving. The state went after my cousin. The jury convicted him and went home to eat dinner. He got 18 years. All three were thrown from the truck so there was no way to tell who was driving after it crashed.

Every jury is different you never know what they are going to do.

The one thing that I have learned from all of the trials over the years is that the media doesn't do the best job of getting us the truth.
 
Originally posted by passoverGator:
Originally posted by WOLVERNOLE:
To answer the question (we are all guessing here), I can imagine them still being in contact. If they are, I would not think anything less of Tim Tebow. In fact, it really would be quite like him to continue to reach out to Hernandez. I really admire Tebow. He is as good a human being as he was a football player. Seems like he always strived for excellence in both.
yeah, but it has to irk you that he camps out with the OSU side.
I agree with SwampMaster that it is NOT an OSu thing. He appreciates and has an obvious affiliation with his former coach, Meyer, which I can respect. So the answer is no, it does not irk me. LOL, I probably have more respect for Meyer than the average Gator fan. I mean the guy accomplished so much at UF and what he has done, and particularly engineered at OSu this year is remarkable. People can try and criticize this and that about their football program, but they came through.
 
Originally posted by WOLVERNOLE:


Originally posted by passoverGator:

Originally posted by WOLVERNOLE:
To answer the question (we are all guessing here), I can imagine them still being in contact. If they are, I would not think anything less of Tim Tebow. In fact, it really would be quite like him to continue to reach out to Hernandez. I really admire Tebow. He is as good a human being as he was a football player. Seems like he always strived for excellence in both.
yeah, but it has to irk you that he camps out with the OSU side.
I agree with SwampMaster that it is NOT an OSu thing. He appreciates and has an obvious affiliation with his former coach, Meyer, which I can respect. So the answer is no, it does not irk me. LOL, I probably have more respect for Meyer than the average Gator fan. I mean the guy accomplished so much at UF and what he has done, and particularly engineered at OSu this year is remarkable. People can try and criticize this and that about their football program, but they came through.
in agreement with both of wolvernole's posts.
Tebow is a good man and altho I'm not a gambling guy, if I were, I'd bet that Tim has reached out to Aaron
 
Originally posted by grommit:
This is all assuming Hernandez is guilty. He has yet to have his day in court and has yet to be convicted of a single thing by the USA, but the public by and large has already prejudged him, just like they did with Casey Anthony and that Trayvon guy.
This how America works.

Guilty before innocent.
 
Originally posted by Nolez29:


Originally posted by grommit:
This is all assuming Hernandez is guilty. He has yet to have his day in court and has yet to be convicted of a single thing by the USA, but the public by and large has already prejudged him, just like they did with Casey Anthony and that Trayvon guy.
This how America works.

Guilty before innocent.
If there is one thing the J. Winston thing has reinforced in me, is to remember as grommet wrote, "he has yet to have his day in court."

Gotta admit, I was to some degree 'prejudging' Aaron H. but now I have backed off and am thinking "innocent until proven guilty".
 
Originally posted by djegators:
Knowing Tebow, I could see him reaching out in attempt to minister to Hernandez.....be surprised if Hernandez gave a chit....
I can totally see something like this going on. A lot of guys in prison did horrific stuff when they were young, and then got religious after a few years behind bars.
 
Originally posted by Gatordun:

Originally posted by Buddy Green:

The other possibility is that the jury doesn't care who actually shot him and convicts him anyway because it looks like he was obviously involved.
My cousin was sent away for a similar premise. They couldn't prove who was driving. Three buddies got into a truck and one died. All three were drunk. The jury didn't care who was driving. The state went after my cousin. The jury convicted him and went home to eat dinner. He got 18 years. All three were thrown from the truck so there was no way to tell who was driving after it crashed.

Every jury is different you never know what they are going to do.

The one thing that I have learned from all of the trials over the years is that the media doesn't do the best job of getting us the truth.
Trials don't always do that great a job of it, either.
 
It is a common misconception that trials are a search for the truth. They are most certainly not that.
 
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