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Do we have the best receiving corps in the Nation?

You could have just said “yes.”

Sorry, but a 'yes' response could have been a lie if I had. :cool:

I don't yet have your definition of what BEST includes.... o_O

But I can refer you back to my original post on this subject...

As to the best WR corp? UF has one of the best in the Nation.
Top 10 for sure.
Top 5 likely.
Top 3 maybe.
#1 We'll see, but unlikely. o_O
JMOHO's as always.

And even that open response was loosely based on what I might include in best WR Corp, not necessarily on what YOU would consider BEST being... :oops:
(as time gets another stake in the heart) ;)
 
Georgia has almost nothing coming back at receiver for 2019 but that is one of the positions if there is talent they come up to speed pretty quick if a QB can get them the ball.
We are counting on 3rd year starter Jake Fromm to get maximum protection behind the best offensive line in college football and have the time to get the ball to junior (former 5star) Demetris Roberson, freshman 5star George Pickens, high 4star freshman Blaylock and a bevy of other highly regarded recruits who have been biding their time. Having a top 3 RB (Swift) to run behind that line to keep those Florida LB's honest, will help the passing game. Swift will be spelled by 5star sophomore James Cook and last year's #1 RB in the country 5star Zamir White. This might be a case of the "immovable object" (Florida's defense) battling with the "unstoppable force" (the UGA offense)
 
We are counting on 3rd year starter Jake Fromm to get maximum protection behind the best offensive line in college football and have the time to get the ball to junior (former 5star) Demetris Roberson, freshman 5star George Pickens, high 4star freshman Blaylock and a bevy of other highly regarded recruits who have been biding their time. Having a top 3 RB (Swift) to run behind that line to keep those Florida LB's honest, will help the passing game. Swift will be spelled by 5star sophomore James Cook and last year's #1 RB in the country 5star Zamir White. This might be a case of the "immovable object" (Florida's defense) battling with the "unstoppable force" (the UGA offense)

Last year behind that same oline and running game Fromm was throwing to 5-star Nauta, 5-star Godwin, 5-star Hardman, and 4-star Ridley. And your passing game was still poor (72nd) in the country. So why are all these unproven guys going to make it better? Talent wasn't the problem last year. Those players were not only talented but also experienced, didn't matter.
 
The Gator's B-2-B wins in 2015-16 guaranteed they would win in 2017. :confused:

Just like UGly's wins in 2017-18 are a rock solid guarantee that they will win in 2019... o_O
 
They were the youngest team in the history of sports.
There is some truth here. UGA was one of the youngest teams in the country. This OL will be talented, deep and experienced. As another poster pointed out, youth isn't a huge factor at WR. Look at what Alabama did with Buggs, Jeudy etal when they were freshmen. I'm not saying it's going to be easy. Florida will be our most challenging game. Anything can happen. Experience at QB and OL means a lot. Look for a steady diet of Swift, Herrien, James Cook and Zamir White (Fresh running backs) behind a regularly rotated OL (fresh horses) to wear down the Florida defense. Throw in some play action passes to Swift and Cook as well as medium range passes to DRob, Pickens, Blaylock etal as Florida comes up to stop the run. By half way through the thrid quarter, look for Florida to wear down and the UGA running backs to begin going for big gainers. On defense, I expect a lot of pressure on your QB.
 
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There is some truth here. UGA was one of the youngest teams in the country. This OL will be talented, deep and experienced. As another poster pointed out, youth isn't a huge factor at WR. Look at what Alabama did with Buggs, Jeudy etal when they were freshmen. I'm not saying it's going to be easy. Florida will be our most challenging game. Anything can happen. Experience at QB and OL means a lot. Look for a steady diet of Swift, Herrien, James Cook and Zamir White (Fresh running backs) behind a regularly rotated OL (fresh horses) to wear down the Florida defense. Throw in some play action passes to Swift and Cook as well as medium range passes to DRob, Pickens, Blaylock etal as Florida comes up to stop the run. By half way through the thrid quarter, look for Florida to wear down and the UGA running backs to begin going for big gainers. On defense, I expect a lot of pressure on your QB.

Everything you said there can just as easily be applied to what the Gators are going to do to your buttsniffers. Plus we have 'Dan the Man' and his staff vs 4th&Dum and his... That's the thing that will tip the balance to the Gators in that game. :p
 
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Everything you said there can just as easily be applied to what the Gators are going to do to your buttsniffers. Plus we have 'Dan the Man' and his staff vs 4th&Dum and his... That's the thing that will tip the balance to the Gators in that game. :p
Dan hasn’t outciached Kirby, ever. But suddenly...:confused:
 
Do you have great expectations from your offensive line? Aren't they new?

Nope, and if you'd stop sniffing butts long enough, you might have a clue about it by now.:rolleyes:
The OL is new, only in respect to there being 4 full time starters to replace this season.
But they are replaced by experienced part-time starters and others with some playing experience in the rotations. o_O

66. OC/OG Nick Buchanan 6-3 291 rsSr - 2018 starter
55. RT Noah Banks 6-5 309 rsSr - EE (JuCo-AA - #5 OT - 22/50)
61. LG/OC Brett Heggie 6-4 314 rsJr - 7 starts
72. LT Stone Forsythe 6-7 323 rsJr - 3 starts

50. LG Tanner Rowell 6-2 283 rsJr - Can bench press your car...
56. LT Jean DeLance 6-4 313 rsJr
75. RT T.J. Moore 6-5 300 rsSo
67. RG Chris Bleich 6-6 321 rsFr - EE
76. LT Richard Gouraige 6-4 303 rsFr
62. OC/OG Griffin McDowell 6-3 295 rsFr - scooter, out for Spring
10 Returning.
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65. E-#7 OC Kingsley Eguakun 6-4 294 Fr *** EE - Miami flip, chose UF orver AU.
78. E-#11 OG Ethan White 6-5 392 Fr **** EE- chose UF over 8 other schools
74. R-#13 OG Will Harrod 6-5 316 Fr **** EE - chose UF over a long list of big time offers
70. E-#18 OT Michael Tarquin 6-5 275 Fr **** EE - chose UF over 22 other offers
64. R-#17 OG Riley Simonds 6-4 290 Fr *** - chose UF over 10 other SEC schools

R-#37 OT Wardrick Wilson 6-5 311 Fr **** - chose UF over Mich and 10 others
With 6 FNG's,,, for a total of 16 OLmen, with 12 of them available for Spring.
 
Dan hasn’t outciached Kirby, ever. But suddenly...:confused:

Ignorant, stupid, or just another nuttlickin' liar?

When they had nearly the same team talent to work with.

11-1 UF vs UA 12-0
2008 for all the marbles in the SEC-C game.
OC Gator Dan 31 - 20 DC 4th&Dumb Red-turds
 
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Every UGA fan that comes to this board talks about how they have the best oline, RB, Strength coach, dline, etc in the entire country. How is it do they ever lose a game?

lol @ Georgia They have a good D line but not a real good one as they have no one that really gets after the QB good on the edge. I will give them the O line this year as probably becoming the best in the country but that is it.
 
Nope, and if you'd stop sniffing butts long enough, you might have a clue about it by now.:rolleyes:
The OL is new, only in respect to there being 4 full time starters to replace this season.
But they are replaced by experienced part-time starters and others with some playing experience in the rotations. o_O

66. OC/OG Nick Buchanan 6-3 291 rsSr - 2018 starter
55. RT Noah Banks 6-5 309 rsSr - EE (JuCo-AA - #5 OT - 22/50)
61. LG/OC Brett Heggie 6-4 314 rsJr - 7 starts
72. LT Stone Forsythe 6-7 323 rsJr - 3 starts

50. LG Tanner Rowell 6-2 283 rsJr - Can bench press your car...
56. LT Jean DeLance 6-4 313 rsJr
75. RT T.J. Moore 6-5 300 rsSo
67. RG Chris Bleich 6-6 321 rsFr - EE
76. LT Richard Gouraige 6-4 303 rsFr
62. OC/OG Griffin McDowell 6-3 295 rsFr - scooter, out for Spring
10 Returning.
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65. E-#7 OC Kingsley Eguakun 6-4 294 Fr *** EE - Miami flip, chose UF orver AU.
78. E-#11 OG Ethan White 6-5 392 Fr **** EE- chose UF over 8 other schools
74. R-#13 OG Will Harrod 6-5 316 Fr **** EE - chose UF over a long list of big time offers
70. E-#18 OT Michael Tarquin 6-5 275 Fr **** EE - chose UF over 22 other offers
64. R-#17 OG Riley Simonds 6-4 290 Fr *** - chose UF over 10 other SEC schools

R-#37 OT Wardrick Wilson 6-5 311 Fr **** - chose UF over Mich and 10 others
With 6 FNG's,,, for a total of 16 OLmen, with 12 of them available for Spring.
So, would you say your OL s expected to be as good , better, or inferior to last year's? The statistics you posted look pretty good. Your opinion please.
 
Going into the 2018 season, all of us expected an improvement from the OL in 2019 considering the OL from the Mcelwain era was a total disaster and you Georgia fans know it. None of us expected an improvement in 2018. I, for one, believed Frank's was gonna set a record for getting sacked out of all FBS teams in 2018.
 
So, would you say your OL s expected to be as good , better, or inferior to last year's? The statistics you posted look pretty good. Your opinion please.

It's still too early for anything but a W-a-G from me as I'm not any kind of an 'insider', just a long time fan that's watching closely from the outside. o_O

That said, I'm betting that they will be better by the end of the season, than the 2018's were at the end of last season. Does that answer your question? :cool:

How fast they can sort out the starters and the reserves playing rotation, (gel) will decide the difference. How many of the younger guys (rsFr / Fr) can break into the rotation is a rather large question imo, to be decided during the next month. So we'll see. I (and everyone else) will know a lot more by Aug 25th.... ;)
 
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So, would you say your OL s expected to be as good , better, or inferior to last year's? The statistics you posted look pretty good. Your opinion please.

I know what we lost, a second rounder and three undrafted free agents.

I know what we have back, 1 full time starter, 3 guys who started part time but had some injury issues, and one backup last year with plenty of playing experience.

I know who we have coaching them, one of the best in the country.

I know who we have calling plays, one of the best at moving the QB and the pocket and using misdirection to cause openings in the DLine.

These are the things I know.

My opinion is that we will be about the same as last year on the line, and the skill positions will be better, and the learning curve has been surmounted.

What I wonder is, why UGa fans are so convinced that our oline is going to be poor, yet also believe their WR corps, full of newbies and underachievers, is going to be great.
 
I know what we lost, a second rounder and three undrafted free agents.

I know what we have back, 1 full time starter, 3 guys who started part time but had some injury issues, and one backup last year with plenty of playing experience.

I know who we have coaching them, one of the best in the country.

I know who we have calling plays, one of the best at moving the QB and the pocket and using misdirection to cause openings in the DLine.

These are the things I know.

My opinion is that we will be about the same as last year on the line, and the skill positions will be better, and the learning curve has been surmounted.

What I wonder is, why UGa fans are so convinced that our oline is going to be poor, yet also believe their WR corps, full of newbies and underachievers, is going to be great.
My premature thoughts about your OL was that you lost most of last year's line and thus would have to rebuild a new one. That piques the predatorial interest of your opponents. From your explanations, it seems as though the cupboard isn't bare. The more I read about your team, the more substantial it looks. Notice that as a guest, I generally resist flaming. I am interested in researching our competition. Just heard that the Vegas line now has UGA by 7.5.
 
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My premature thoughts about your OL was that you lost most of last year's line and thus would have to rebuild a new one. That piques the predatorial interest of your opponents. From your explanations, it seems as though the cupboard isn't bare. The more I read about your team, the more substantial it looks. Notice that as a guest, I generally resist flaming. I am interested in researching our competition. Just heard that the Vegas line now has UGA by 7.5.
That OL from 2018 UF had was absolute garbage during the Jim McElwain era. We expected the same results under Dan Mullen's 1st season. All of us here expected an improvement in 2019. We lose most of our OL to graduation so I hope we're wrong about our inexperienced OL. I want to believe coaching that same OL had something to do with a major improvement from the McElwain era entering the 2018 season.
 
The just another FYI tidbit on the Gator's OL for 2019:

Every single OL'man on the roster has had a redshirt season.

And 3-4 of the 5 incoming Fr OL will likely redshirt in 2019.
2 rsSr's, 5th Yr - 4 rsJr's, 4th yr - 1 rsSo, 3rd Yr - 3 rsFr, 2nd Yr -- 5 FNG Fr

There is a rather large difference between a new group of starters on the OL,,, and having to build up a young & inexperienced OL from scratch.... :cool:
 
Allow me to selfishly share some positive UGA news: Georgia just got the commitment from 5 star, 6'1" 215 running back Kendall Milton out of Clovis, California. This elevates UGA up to #5 in the recruiting rankings with a 4 star average. Only Clemson is higher with a 4.05. Thanks for your tolerance.
 
When they had nearly the same team talent to work with.

11-1 UF vs UA 12-0
2008 for all the marbles in the SEC-C game.
OC Gator Dan 31 - 20 DC 4th&Dumb Red-turds
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12. WR Van Jefferson 6-2 197 rsSr
89. WR Tyrie Cleveland 6-2 205 Sr
10. WR Josh Hammond 6-0 194 Sr
16. WR/PR Freddie Swain 6-0 199 Sr
83. WR Rick Wells 6-0 202 rsJr
4. WR/RB Kadarius Toney 5-11 194 Jr (R-11.4 - Rec 10.4 - Harvin 2.0)
8. WR Trevon Grimes 6-5 214 Jr
84. WR/TE Kyle Pitts 6-6 239 So
15. WR/KR Jacob Copeland 6-0 192 rsFr
85. WR Trey Thompson 6-1 201 rsSo -- WO - SEC Academic HR
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WR Arjei Henderson 6-2 190 Fr - Richmond, TX (E #12 WR ****)
WR/Ath Ja'markis Weston 6-3 217 Fr - Clewiston, FL (E-#45 Ath/DE ****)
WR Dionte Marks 6-2 178 Fr - Deland, FL (E-#45 WR ****)
WR/FS Trent Whittenmore 6-3 190 Fr - Gainesville, FL (E-#33 FS ****)


The 2019 Gator WR Break-down.
8 are in their 3rd to 5th seasons, upperclassmen.
1 6-6, 1 6-5, 2 6-3, 4 6-2, 1 6-1, 4 6-0, 1 5-11 'Human Joystick'
1 rsSr, 3 Sr, 2 Jr,-- 6 are lay-O-ded with starts and/or playing experience.
1 rsJr, 1 rsSo,,, 1 So, 1 rsFr, 4 Fr - 8 are working hard to get their own playing time.
Wells rsJr and Copeland rsFr mentioned as making huge off-season progress.
1 *****, 11 ****, 2 *** (under-rated)

They may or may not be the #1 group in the nation, but I know that I'd not trade that group for anyone else's group. :cool:
 
Allow me to selfishly share some positive UGA news: Georgia just got the commitment from 5 star, 6'1" 215 running back Kendall Milton out of Clovis, California. This elevates UGA up to #5 in the recruiting rankings with a 4 star average. Only Clemson is higher with a 4.05. Thanks for your tolerance.

I remember watching Ol' Miss do the same thing.
 
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Allow me to selfishly share some positive UGA news: Georgia just got the commitment from 5 star, 6'1" 215 running back Kendall Milton out of Clovis, California. This elevates UGA up to #5 in the recruiting rankings with a 4 star average. Only Clemson is higher with a 4.05. Thanks for your tolerance.
We all would've been happy to discuss this had you posted it on a recruiting thread, not a UF WR thread. There are tons of Georgia recruiting threads just down below this thread.
 
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Lmfao at preseason position rankings! At the end of the season, you will be wishing you had a Pickens Or Robertson.
 
Lmfao at preseason position rankings! At the end of the season, you will be wishing you had a Pickens Or a Robertson.

No, we'll be glad that we again had:

2018:
Passing - 2,776 yds -- Opponents 2,350
123 Passing 1st Downs -- Opponents 99
TD's Passing 28 -- Opponents 16
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21 players with a reception.
11 players with a TD reception.
9 players with over 100 receiving yards.
8 players with double-digit receptions.

And unlike you...:confused: Coaches that know how to properly utilize the entire team, and especially with the playmakers. o_O
 
How good and deep is the Gator's 2019 receiver group?
The All SEC and AA DB's are having a hard time covering them at practice.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida safeties coach Ron English has been coaching in the secondary for 21 years at various stops. He's never had a camp as challenging for his unit as this year with the Gators. UF has 4 senior receivers, 3 juniors and a promising redshirt freshman returning. Those 8 players have combined for a whopping 341 career catches for 4,520 yards and 32 TD's at the college level.

English has never gone against anything quite like it. What better way to get (DB's) ready for the SEC, than facing one of the league's top receiving corps on a day-to-day basis? -- Excellent read here:

https://247sports.com/college/flori...llenged-by-extremely-deep-WR-group-134073467/



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How good and deep is the Gator's 2019 receiver group?
The All SEC and AA DB's are having a hard time covering them at practice.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. -- Florida safeties coach Ron English has been coaching in the secondary for 21 years at various stops. He's never had a camp as challenging for his unit as this year with the Gators. UF has 4 senior receivers, 3 juniors and a promising redshirt freshman returning. Those 8 players have combined for a whopping 341 career catches for 4,520 yards and 32 TD's at the college level.

English has never gone against anything quite like it. What better way to get (DB's) ready for the SEC, than facing one of the league's top receiving corps on a day-to-day basis? -- Excellent read here:

https://247sports.com/college/flori...llenged-by-extremely-deep-WR-group-134073467/



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What will he say after getting beat by 30 to UGA?
 
Mullen is going to run the ball.

I have a feeling we are going to run run run for 7 games, then against UGa, when they will have prepped for our run attack, we will throw throw throw. Just a feeling. Particularly since our WR corp is better than their secondary, and Mullen is not one to bang his head against a wall when he can fly over it.
 
I have a feeling we are going to run run run for 7 games, then against UGa, when they will have prepped for our run attack, we will throw throw throw. Just a feeling. Particularly since our WR corp is better than their secondary, and Mullen is not one to bang his head against a wall when he can fly over it.
One think that is great about Mullen is that he's well thought out, he really schemes well and you can tell when he's talking about things...it's not just a bunch of 'coach speak'...he's a genuine guy but he really knows what he's doing and he's developing this program. He's not really what I expected since I've been watching him over the last 1+ years at UF but the team sounds like him when they are talking too. A lot of coaches talk about players buying in and I think for the most part they are. As we keep picking up blue chippers after blue chippers, it seems like a program that's going to be a force to be reckoned with again. It's exciting to see what's happening.
 
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Just killin' some more time until Fall practice begins...

How the WR's shake out,,, 6 deep in the primary rotation, 4 Sr's, 2 jr's.

1. Van Jefferson 6-2 197 rsSr - 35 for 503 Yds, 6 TD's.
He had only ONE drop on the season, while being as smooth as warm butter.

2. Josh Hammond 6-0 194 Sr - 28 for 369 yds, 4 TD's
He had ZERO drops on the season, while making some spectacular catches. :eek:

3. Trevon Grimes 6-5 210 Jr - 26 for 364 Yds, 2 TD's.
A tOSU xfer that was coming on in the 2nd half of 2018.

4. Freddie Swain 6-0 199 Sr (slot-WR/PR)
Rec - 14 for 265 Yds, 18.9 Yds/Rec, 5 TD's
PR - 22 for 224 Yds, 10.2 Yd/Ret, with an 85 Yd TD return.
He had the best TD per Reception ratiio, 5/14 = A TD per 2.8 Rec
One of 8 FBS players with a PR TD and receiving TD of 65-plus yards

5. Tyree Cleveland 6-2 206 Sr - 18 for 212 Yds, 3 TD's.
Deep speed at receiver and at gunner on ST's punt coverage with 5 Tkls.

6. WR/Slot Kadarius Toney 5-11 190 Jr
Little Harvin - Rush 11.4 YPC - Rec 10.4 Yds/Rec
QB-wc
- Double pass TD pass to TE Stephens to beat MsSt.


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For the Bonus Backup Round you have these.:

Rick Wells 6-0 202 rsJr - 1 for 6 Yds and ST's.

WR/TE Kyle Pitts 6-6 246 Soph - 3 for 73 Yds, 1 TD
With good speed for his size and great hands.

WR/Slot Jacob Copeland 6-0 198 rsFr - Rec - 1 for 16 yds.
KR - 1 for 26 Yds - Another potential Harvin type when healthy.
Fr - Slowed by a nagging pulled thigh muscle in 2018 and this Spring.

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Likely Co-starter TE's:
Lucas Krull 6-6 255 rsJr
Kemore Gamble 6-3 246 rsSo will battle for starting TE, but both will play.
2018 They combined for - 16 for 206 Yds, 1 TD.

Backup TE's working tor playing time:
Dante Lang 6-5 253 rsFr
Keon Zipperer 6-2 242 Fr

Could move into the playing rotation, but limited likely redshirts:

WR/FS Trent Whittemore 6-3 187 Fr - HS Ath-QB-WR-DB
WR Ja'Markis Weston 6-3 212 Fr - Raw but with star potential.

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The 1st 3 RB's (Perine-Davis-Pierce)
All are all excellent receivers coming out of the backfield.
Iverson rsFr and Wright Fr are not far behind.



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Versus Georgia

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Florida

Rec
Yds Avg Long TD
16 Freddie Swain

2 38 19.0 36 1
1 Kadarius Toney
3 18 6.0 13 0
8 Trevon Grimes
2 18 9.0 10 0
89 Tyrie Cleveland
2 10 5.0 10 0
10 Josh Hammond
1 7 7.0 7 0
7 Lucas Krull
1 6 6.0 6 0
82 Moral Stephens
1 4 4.0 4 0
25 Jordan Scarlett
1 4 4.0 4 0
 
As to the best WR corp? UF has one of the best in the SEC
Top 10 Absolutely
Top 5 Pretty Sure.
Top 3 Likely.
#1 We'll see, but unlikely.
FIFY

#1 bammer

Then you can throw a blanket over LSU UF and aTm......Who knows on the FR contribution???. If UF has an advantage for #2 it is in overall depth and experience and not necessarily individual talent at the top. USCe is an honorable mention but I don't think they are quite under the blanket.

As far as the National perspective. I say they are probably in the second five JMHO.
 
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One think that is great about Mullen is that he's well thought out, he really schemes well and you can tell when he's talking about things...it's not just a bunch of 'coach speak'...he's a genuine guy but he really knows what he's doing and he's developing this program. He's not really what I expected since I've been watching him over the last 1+ years at UF but the team sounds like him when they are talking too. A lot of coaches talk about players buying in and I think for the most part they are. As we keep picking up blue chippers after blue chippers, it seems like a program that's going to be a force to be reckoned with again. It's exciting to see what's happening.

Mullen has stressed the importance of doing things together off the field to build friendships and bring the team closer together. Based on this offseason, the players apparently have bought in.

The WR's apparently were inseparable, and that’s one of the most competitive position groups on the team, one that appears to be overflowing with talent, where opportunities may be hard to find for some once the season begins.

“We’ve hung out day in and day out,” senior wide receiver Josh Hammond said. “Whether we’re going to the movies, going bowling. … just hanging out and spending time with each other.”

It’s been pretty much been the same summer scenario for the RB's, the OL and every other position group. The players have been doing stuff together off the field, having fun and strengthening bonds and growing 'team' chemistry.

https://www.gatorsports.com/2019/07/gators-acing-team-chemistry/
 
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