Democrats keep the Senate

[jfegaly]

I’m all for finishing counting votes on Election Night. There needs to more scrutiny on states that do allow counting mail-in ballots until after the election closes.

Do you believe that our elections have numerous security flaws and fraud potential like Politico does? That many machines and vote totals can be hacked and changed via wifi? Just like politico says?

Where was politico in 2020 when all the dems were saying these machines aren’t even on network?

 

[RayGravesGhost]

They’re opening themselves up for a perpetual cluster and suspicion. And if citizens are suspicious and don’t have faith in the honesty of outcomes we are toast.

Funny how conservatives ignored minorities concerns about election integrity and gutted the Voting Rights Act...

No discussion of becoming toast when the integrity issues are directed at conservative legislatures

 

[jfegaly]

Unfortunately Republicans let Dems get ahead of us on taking advantage of how voting habits have changed. That’s not a conspiracy in itself it’s a failure to realize that we have to adapt to the way people vote and get our constituents to do early voting and mailing in ballots too.
There are some things in other states that need to be changed too. We count our votes here in FL as they come in (keeping totals secret of course) but other states like NV and AZ do not. They’re opening themselves up for a perpetual cluster and suspicion. And if citizens are suspicious and don’t have faith in the honesty of outcomes we are toast.

Psst. We are toast

 

[goldmom]

Funny how conservatives ignored minorities concerns about election integrity and gutted the Voting Rights Act...

No discussion of becoming toast when the integrity issues are directed at conservative legislatures

This post is so stupid I’ll just point out the stupidity of it and stop.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

Of course you have to stop...because you have no point to make

A conservative SCOTUS declares that certain states no longer have to be monitored for election integrity issues.

Conservatives lose an election and those very same states go crazy under the guise of election integrity issues

Guess it depends which political group is making the claim and the political makeup of the court

 

[BSC911]

You mean like the Democratic party/union organizers from the hospitality and culinary workers unions in Las Vegas who went to their (compulsory) members in hotel kitchens all over town and harvested their ballots after telling them how to vote?
Yeah we need to do that too.

The Pubs do that too at my country club.

 

[nail1988]

Republicans have to be able to get our voters to the polls with early voting just like the Dems. Voting on Election Day only is becoming an iffy proposition subject to weather or other events.

Correct. We need to go to every church and harvest the votes.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

Do you believe that our elections have numerous security flaws and fraud potential like Politico does? That many machines and vote totals can be hacked and changed via wifi? Just like politico says?

Where was politico in 2020 when all the dems were saying these machines aren’t even on network?

I did a quick search and found this article:
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/14/wireless-modems-could-endanger-midterms-00061769

Is this what you are referring to?

I wouldn’t have a problem with them moving to a different implementation that is considered less vulnerable. But according to the article itself, most of the states using the technology in question are states where the election outcomes have been uncontroversial.

In fact, one of the states using the technology in question is Florida. But Florida is frequently held up as the standard that other states should follow.

 

[jfegaly]

And this….

But that’s when Politico was bracing for A red wave. My guess is, now they will say this one was as secure as 2020. Wait for it.

6 election security threats to watch for on Election Day - POLITICO

Although it is politically convenient that they don’t discuss one of the easiest ways to have fraud. A way that even democrats used to agree with. Weird that they don’t think so any longer. That way? Mail in voting

 

[jfegaly]

Exclusive | Confessions of a voter fraud: I was a master at fixing mail-in ballots

A top Democratic operative says voter fraud, especially with mail-in ballots, is no myth. And he knows this because he’s been doing it, on a grand scale, for decades. Mail-in ballots have bec…

nypost.com

 

[jfegaly]

‘Chaos.’ ‘Fraud.’ Democrats Once Warned Against Voting Changes They Now Call For

townhall.com

 

[goldmom]

Correct. We need to go to every church and harvest the votes.

Unlike similar efforts in some neighborhood churches our souls do not all vote for one side, though.

 

[nail1988]

 

[goldmom]

Of course you have to stop...because you have no point to make

A conservative SCOTUS declares that certain states no longer have to be monitored for election integrity issues.

Conservatives lose an election and those very same states go crazy under the guise of election integrity issues

Guess it depends which political group is making the claim and the political makeup of the court

How convenient you dropped your Indefensible claim that minority voting rights were taken away.

 

[nail1988]

Denial is not a river in Africa. When will you guys accept the fact that the fat Orange clown is a liability.

In all states with voter ID laws and strict guidelines it was a red wave. But nothing to see here folks. Voter fraud has been disproven.

 

[fatman76]

Unfortunately Republicans let Dems get ahead of us on taking advantage of how voting habits have changed. That’s not a conspiracy in itself it’s a failure to realize that we have to adapt to the way people vote and get our constituents to do early voting and mailing in ballots too.

This only works if the other side isn’t cheating. It’s hard to take away an in-person vote…at that point it has to be machines/tabulator/reporting systems fraud which leaves a paper trail.

And I don’t understand the argument…a vote is a vote. What does it matter if someone waits in line and votes in person or sends in a ballot via mail?

We need to adopt a more secure voting model in swing states where the chain of custody is maintained.

Maricopa sends every mailed ballot through a private company that has zero oversight. They never even provided chain of custody documentation during the audit of the 2020 election. How is this even legal?

 

[RayGravesGhost]

How convenient you dropped your Indefensible claim that minority voting rights were taken away.

Huh?

That's EXACTLY what this comment is....

"A conservative SCOTUS declares that certain states no longer have to be monitored for election integrity issues."

And the result was GA, NC, TX and other states were OK'd to implement voter suppression tactics without DOJ pre-clearance requirements

That seemed to just fine with conservatives until that also OK'd states to changing voting rules just before the 2020 election because of COVID

So changes that suppress minority voting are A-OK but changes that support greater access to the polls results in conservatives now crying about election integrity

Even though the increased access was due to their own corrupt efforts in state legislatures & at the SCOTUS

 

[kalimgoodman]

Of most Trumpers on here, I do have hope for @fatman76. If you truly believe that the elections are being stolen and this year particularly. You have to have some statistical evidence that the Republicans won. They didn't win any voting block that would indicate that. They lost independents, young people, blacks, Hispanics, suburban white women, like everything. You just believe the Ds should've lost a lot because you dislike them but zero supporting evidence. Hard core Rs votes alone doesn't win a general election. Just like hard-core D votes alone can't win. You need the middle.

 

[fatman76]

Of most Trumpers on here, I do have hope for @fatman76. If you truly believe that the elections are being stolen and this year particularly. You have to have some statistical evidence that the Republicans won. They didn't win any voting block that would indicate that. They lost independents, young people, blacks, Hispanics, suburban white women, like everything. You just believe the Ds should've lost a lot because you dislike them but zero supporting evidence. Hard core Rs votes alone doesn't win a general election. Just like hard-core D votes alone can't win. You need the middle.

It’ll come. And you’ll ignore it.

This is an exact repeat of 2020.

It’s over, no one cares about election integrity. I’m not even mad anymore, it’s honestly just sad.

 

[jfegaly]

Of most Trumpers on here, I do have hope for @fatman76. If you truly believe that the elections are being stolen and this year particularly. You have to have some statistical evidence that the Republicans won. They didn't win any voting block that would indicate that. They lost independents, young people, blacks, Hispanics, suburban white women, like everything. You just believe the Ds should've lost a lot because you dislike them but zero supporting evidence. Hard core Rs votes alone doesn't win a general election. Just like hard-core D votes alone can't win. You need the middle.

Lots of inaccuracies in this post. Not unexpected given the source.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Nothing came of 2020, Arizona did this amazing forensic audit and it just concluded irregularities. Nothing stolen. Then you have your movie, which is in line with Micheal Moore. The DOJ looked into that movie, Mr Barr called it BS. He's a republican! @fatman76

 

[kalimgoodman]

Lots of inaccuracies in this post. Not unexpected given the source.

Latinos support Democrats over Republicans 2-1 in House and Senate elections

Latinos support Democrats over Republicans across House and Senate races helped ensure the 'red wave' did not materialize in 2022

www.brookings.edu

 

[jfegaly]

Learn how to quote. Pubs gained in damn near every demographic.

source? Liberal Politico.

Voters of color did move to the right — just not at the rates predicted - POLITICO

www.politico.com

“But compared to the 2018 midterms, Hispanic and Asian support for the GOP jumped 10 and 17 points respectively, while Black voters shifted about 4 points to the right. When contrasted with 2020 — a presidential election year fueled by a push to remove former President Donald Trump from office — the movement in favor of Republicans is in the single digits.



Pubs gained support from previous elections, not lost. Good grief.

Nice try at spin though.

Another quote from left leaning Politico.

“And Democrats should be wary of declaring victory on this front and moving on, multiple strategists said, noting that any erosion among the party’s core constituencies should be taken seriously — and addressed with more planning and purpose ahead of the 2024 presidential race.”

So, pubs moved to the right, and gained more support from damn near all demographics. Time to go further right.

 

[jfegaly]

Kalim, doing kalim things. Coming in with false information, getting taken to school, then disappearing.

Shocking turn of events.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

Learn how to quote. Pubs gained in damn near every demographic.

source? Liberal Politico.

Voters of color did move to the right — just not at the rates predicted - POLITICO

www.politico.com

“But compared to the 2018 midterms, Hispanic and Asian support for the GOP jumped 10 and 17 points respectively, while Black voters shifted about 4 points to the right. When contrasted with 2020 — a presidential election year fueled by a push to remove former President Donald Trump from office — the movement in favor of Republicans is in the single digits.



Pubs gained support from previous elections, not lost. Good grief.

Nice try at spin though.

So going from atrociously bad numbers with non-white voters to still atrociously bad numbers with non-white voters is all you got? 🤣

 

[RayGravesGhost]

Kalim, doing kalim things. Coming in with false information, getting taken to school, then disappearing.

Shocking turn of events.

Red wave never materializes...because it was a right wing media lie

Shocking 😲

 

[BSC911]

In all states with voter ID laws and strict guidelines it was a red wave. But nothing to see here folks. Voter fraud has been disproven.

We don’t have to disprove anything. You have to prove it. Something better than, well we lost so it must be due to cheating. That’s an argument a child makes.

Like most of the Trumpers arguments OTB. Kind of like, there’s no way Biden got 81 million votes. Yes, yes he did. You guys are just Whiney sore losers.

 

[BSC911]

It’ll come. And you’ll ignore it.

This is an exact repeat of 2020.

It’s over, no one cares about election integrity. I’m not even mad anymore, it’s honestly just sad.

Sure it will. Just like all of those mules. LOLOLOLOLOL.

 

[nail1988]

 

[RayGravesGhost]

mail-in voting has been in use since 1974...

And now Pelosi & Holder are the architects of the republican state legislatures that changed the voting rules for 2020? 🤣


conservative conspiracy theories are just sooooo stupid

 

[BamaFan1137]

Every bipartisan bill he got passed had multiple Republicans. Calling them RINOs is why you will never understand voting. You have to have the middle of the road or center middle to win. I try but i don't expect you to understand. @BamaFan1137

Your posts never make sense and you always end them with some ridiculous closing statement like you've done here.

"Calling people RINOs means I will never understand voting?" 😂 What in the literal ____ is that even supposed to mean? This question is rhetorical...your explanation will be as useless as the original statement.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I’ve been voting by mail for years in Florida. It's fantastic and Florida is considered the gold standard for voting integrity. Anyone who pushes a "let’s ban voting by mail unless you have a good excuse” platform won’t be getting my vote. In fact, I will make it a point to stand in line for hours just to vote them out for wasting my time.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I clarified en masse fwiw.

A significant portion of our population have serious concerns about our election integrity. It's a growing problem, not a shrinking one. We must do something to correct this.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I clarified en masse fwiw.

A significant portion of our population have serious concerns about our election integrity. It's a growing problem, not a shrinking one. We must do something to correct this.

Everyone should just do what Florida Man does.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Your posts never make sense and you always end them with some ridiculous closing statement like you've done here.

"Calling people RINOs means I will never understand voting?" 😂 What in the literal ____ is that even supposed to mean? This question is rhetorical...your explanation will be as useless as the original statement.

Because you seem to not understand that people can be a R and not have extreme views. There are people that are liberal Rs, moderate Rs and extreme Rs. You seem to think that any R that's votes in the middle is a RINO because they work with the Ds.

Some voters (purple states) want to elect people that work with the Ds and vice versa. It doesn't make them a fake Republican or "Republican in name only" to work with the Democrats. They are true Republicans just like you. They just have different views within the republican party.

 

[kalimgoodman]

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I clarified en masse fwiw.

A significant portion of our population have serious concerns about our election integrity. It's a growing problem, not a shrinking one. We must do something to correct this.

The losing side?

 

[jfegaly]

Because you seem to not understand that people can be a R and not have extreme views. There are people that are liberal Rs, moderate Rs and extreme Rs. You seem to think that any R that's votes in the middle is a RINO because they work with the Ds.

Some voters (purple states) want to elect people that work with the Ds and vice versa. It doesn't make them a fake Republican or "Republican in name only" to work with the Democrats. They are true Republicans just like you. They just have different views within the republican party.

There are also people who claim to be independents that are far left extremists

 

[Gator Fever]

The losing side?

Satan's greatest trick was convincing much of the world he doesn't exist.

 

[Gator Fever]

There are also people who claim to be independents that are far left extremists

Yep the Democrat plants that constantly call in to conservative talk radio.

 

[kalimgoodman]

There are also people who claim to be independents that are far left extremists

Yes, we have left leaning independents and right leaning independents BUT they are still independents.

 

[RayGravesGhost]

A significant portion of our population have serious concerns about our election integrity. It's a growing problem, not a shrinking one. We must do something to correct this.

A significant portion of this population have serious concerns of voter suppression efforts. Its a growing problem, not a shrinking one. We must do something to correct this.