Fever during Missouri…
Been setting it up all year…way to “stick together”…great fan…
Dan says, “We’re going to CELEBRATE this victory.”
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Been setting it up all year…way to “stick together”…great fan…
It doesn’t make you a bad fan if you just think your coach isn’t earning his money. There is pretty strong Evidence that Mullen is just not willing to do the work necessary to run a program like Florida.
It's not that, it just shows the disconnect Mullen has with the kids. I would guess that he's thinking we need to show recruits a positive attitude and energy, but this just comes off as, well, pathetic. I would think this kind of thing turns off most recruits, who don't want to dance in the locker room after a nothing win.
It's one thing to think a coach isn't up to the standard of operating your program and want him replaced, quite another to actually root for your guys to lose.
I don't want Dan fired but I want Dan to be more than "a good play caller" or "the QB whisperer". Dan is the head coach. I want Dan to be a CEO type. Hire quality coordinators and assistant coaches along with recruiters. Of course I think he needs time. I do think and also hope this season is just one of those fvcked up seasons and he will snap the funk. If this continues next season, I'll jerk the knee and say send him packing.
But if players are "quitting" that leads back to leadership. These aren't Macs guys. These are majority Dan's.
That was year 1 for Saban with Shula's recruits. This is year 4 for Mullen with majority Mullen's recruits.
Dude - you are arguing with the mob. lol Mullen could cure cancer and the response would be "he's wasting his time not winning games and spending too much time curing cancer"
I haven’t seen Mullen do anything close to curing cancer. What would be closest in your opinion?
I’m glad they won. I don’t have a problem with them celebrating in the locker room. We have worse problems than that.
Its also a terrible argument.
The next year Saban was a game (us in the SECCG) win away from a national title appearance and then beat us the next year to advance and win the title.
But they did lose 3 games in 2010 and then won back-to-back titles.
He cured the Offensive Anemia our program suffered from for the preceding seven years…
and freed us from Scurvy…
Not sure how he will end up long term there but it is funny seeing him using that style to beat those SEC West teams.
I like leach.
He was dancing in the locker room after the win vs Auburn as well.
Difference was that Miss State was an underdog on an away SEC game and made a historic comeback.
Dan busted a move after surviving at home against Samford, a horrible year for them at that, after giving up 52.
Well there is big point of contention. Uf's season was OVER with the loss to KY. I'm not a Mullen hater. But I'm concerned. Mullen doesn't seem like he has an inkling Richardson may transfer next year. Mullen doesn't seem to GAF. Saw where Jones will be starting the next game. If Mullen cared and was confident he's back next year, he wouldn't be starting Jones. It's a death sentence to Mullin's career at this point. People are willing to live with a learning curve with AR-15 but SOS, not so much.
AR is beginning to be a worry though. Tweaked a hammy, then got a concussion, now has a knee injury from dancing. He might not be playing because he can't.
I think Mullen is back to being a lot more worried about Jones than Richardson getting any real reps. I think its going to be close whether we lose him or not with what is going on. If we do get a new coach I hope his priority is keeping him at UF.
Agree the season was over vs UK. The team has played every game since then like last years bowl against OK. Seems like it’s kind of this teams personality to just mail it in at a certain point. I agree it is a problem, maybe our biggest problem.
I had no idea. Leach is a decent coach and I think he could get much more talent in Gainesville. I keep hearing about 'dinks and dunks' being boring in his offense, well that's what you do when you don't have talent. Bama threw a ton of dinks and dunks in 2014 when we had a former 3rd string RB as our QB. The offense looked a little different when we had Tua and Mac Jones running it.
And that's where I start taking off the heat for Mullen and even Gratham. I think we have a team that has more than a few players that has that type of personality and it doesn't matter what Mullen and Grantham may have done to try and change it.
Some people may say "Well, that's Mullen's fault because he recruited those guys". Yea, but you can't expect a coach to know 100% about a player if you're not their coach.
There's things that I think we can blame Mullen for.....the hiring of Grantham....the very poor recruiting....musical chair qbs...
But this team's effort, attitude, etc? That's on them.
I see this team's personality remaining the same untill players either get demoted from starting positions or graduate and/or move on. We've seen multiple years of how they react to plays, even while losing and/or the game on the line, . ....and its often not good.
We have a major player problem as well.
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I disagree with this 100 percent. Teams take the personality of their coaches. I hated Mullen’s response to the OK bowl fiasco. Essentially, he said it was no big deal. He wasn’t taking the bowl seriously anyway. The effort in that game was an embarrassment. And we’ve seen that same level of effort about three games in a row.
Let me be Paul Harvey and give you the REST of the story...
Everyone knows Saban is all about players buying into The Process. Well Saban arrived in Tuscaloosa and immediately told everyone to start busting ass. The seniors (who had played their careers under Shula) did NOT appreciate being told to work. They fought Saban's Process all season, and that led to the younger players who looked up to them resisting buying in as well.
Then came the LSU game. LSU was undefeated, Bama was on the verge of being Top 10. Bama played over their heads all game, and almost won. I think JPW had a fluke fumble at the end to save LSU.
The seniors were expecting Saban to praise them after the game for playing LSU close, but in the locker room after the game he ripped the team's ass for blowing a game they could have won.
The seniors officially quit at that moment. Some of the players had bought in, so there was a split down the middle of the team for the rest of the season. WR DJ Hall is reported to have slapped QB JPW in practice the next week.
The La-Monroe loss was basically Shula's seniors saying 'Do you think you can win without us?'
After that and in the offseason, there was a major housecleaning. By the time the 2008 season started, if you were still in Tuscaloosa, you had bought into the Process.
The rest is history.
This is why I never get too concerned if there are issues in the first season of a new coach with players speaking out or tanking. That's often a reflection of the PREVIOUS coach more than the current one.
However, if players are tanking on Mullen in year 4, that;s baaaaaad. And you know I like Mullen and I still think Florida should keep him. But if players are quitting on him now, it's a really bad sign.
Fever has always hated Mullen, from Day One. It's just that now a lot of UF fans are catching up to him.
I was one of the 2 posters here that really hated the hire and I think recruiting was one of the issues I had (my choices then have sucked at their schools now).
I do admit I actually changed my tune some after last season but my thinking now is we will never compete in an SECCG in years we don't have a much better QB than Georgia and those West teams. Going 9-3 or even 10-2 in The East isn't going to cut it with Georgia doing what they are doing now.
Plus, there has been talk of OU and Texas possibly joining before 2025 and whether they do it sooner or later it certainly won't make things easier, moreso because of OU.
If they don't restructure the divisions then OU will be in the East. 9-3 might win 3rd place. I just find it hard to imagine Mullen beating out UGA and OU on any consistent or even equal basis.
I would like to be proven wrong, but I doubt I will be. I wasn't as quick to think the same as Fever. It took that LSU game last year to get me to start thinking that Mullen was our version of Mark Richt, at best. Just not the guy to being us over the hump.
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They definitely need to restructure the divisions. OU and Texas have to be West, so does Missouri. Auburn should probably be East, maybe even Bama.
I agree that they need to do it. No matter how it would all piece together, UF would still be fighting for table scraps with UGA and Bama in the same division unless something major happens....and I don't think it will happen with Mullen at the helm.
Because even if he beats uga or Bama, he is prone to drop a game or games that he should win, even before this year.....aka Mark Richt.
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