CNN viewers can you confirm?

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Twitter is claiming that CNN covered Roger Stone's predawn FBI raid live and had exclusive coverage. Which of course means they were tipped off and this was done for publicity.

I mean, critical thinkers get this.

 

[urtren]

If you had been watching the last 2 days, they had been talking about the fact that Mueller was working Thursday, which they usually dont, and last time they did they indicted Manafort the next day. Wasn't all that difficult to figure if you are paying attention. Called JOURNALISM. - Nice attempt at distribution tho.

Unlike Fox, who are Trump teat suckers
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-fox-news-hannity-trump-rally-20181105-story.html

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

If you had been watching the last 2 days, they had been talking about the fact that Mueller was working Thursday, which they usually dont, and last time they did they indicted Manafort the next day. Wasn't all that difficult to figure if you are paying attention. Called JOURNALISM. - Nice attempt at distribution tho.

Unlike Fox, who are Trump teat suckers
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-fox-news-hannity-trump-rally-20181105-story.html

So everyone knew there would be a predawn raid on Roger Stone this morning from watching CNN all week?

Why didn't you tell us this was coming, then?

 

[urtren]

Wtf dude? I never said I knew anything other than CNN talking about Mueller working Thursday. It's a pretty small list of people he would be arresting, IF it was my job to know who? Probably could have figured it out.

Sorry it doesn't fit your conspiracy theory

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Wtf dude? I never said I knew anything other than CNN talking about Mueller working Thursday. It's a pretty small list of people he would be arresting, IF it was my job to know who? Probably could have figured it out.

Sorry it doesn't fit your conspiracy theory

You said you'd known for days from watching CNN that Mueller was working on Thursday and that the last time that happened, an arrest was made the next day.

So if everyone knew this was going to happen, why didn't you post it here? It's your conspiracy theory bro, not mine.

 

[urtren]

You really are crazy aren't you? I am simply stating a fact. Evan Perez said Wednesday and last night they were watching the fact Mueller was working Thursday, and the last time he did, Manfort got raided.
I don't know what the confusion is. Maybe if you watched REAL news, you would be better informed. Sad!

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You really are crazy aren't you? I am simply stating a fact. Evan Perez said Wednesday and last night they were watching the fact Mueller was working Thursday, and the last time he did, Manfort got raided.
I don't know what the confusion is. Maybe if you watched REAL news, you would be better informed. Sad!

Ok. So everyone that was watching CNN knew this was coming and knew to be there. That's apparently you and CNN, else every other national and local media source would have been there.

Critical thinkers get this.

Here's something else critical thinkers get: If Russia was really colluding with Trump, why was Stone trying to figure out what the Wikileaks emails were?

 

[urtren]

Uh huh, your critical thinking really paying off so far. Still waiting on the secret info you have from your thousands of other threads on what Mueller is "actually" working on.

Good luck with all the critical thinking!

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Uh huh, your critical thinking really paying off so far.

If Russia got the DNC emails, as dems claim....and if Russia is colluding with Trump, as dems claim....then there's no need for Wikileaks. Russia would have just given the emails to Trump.

 

[urtren]

It's called plausible deniability, it's the foundation of Trump and Putin's entire lying, crooked, bullshit careers. Never get your own hands dirty, always someone else to blame!

A critical thinker would know this!

 

[bradleygator]

It's called plausible deniability, it's the foundation of Trump and Putin's entire lying, crooked, bullshit careers. Never get your own hands dirty, always someone else to blame!

A critical thinker would know this!

True dis! Up your critical thinking game!

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

It's called plausible deniability, it's the foundation of Trump and Putin's entire lying, crooked, bullshit careers. Never get your own hands dirty, always someone else to blame!

A critical thinker would know this!

You mean like what CNN did today by claiming they just had a wild guess that Stone was going to be arrested this morning at 6am at his home? And that means they weren't tipped off?

That type of plausible deniability?

 

[urtren]

NO WALL EVER! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Trump is such an incredible loser.

Short of the day he resigns(its coming), this has to be the most embarrassing cluster any politician has ever created.

 

[urtren]

If Faux News was a real news group, they would understand how reporting works:

CNN producer David Shortell and photojournalist Gilbert De La Rosa were outside Stone’s home Friday morning to witness the FBI approaching Stone’s door to arrest him on a seven-count indictment that special counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury approved a day earlier,” CNN explained in a story about how it captured the footage. “They were there staking out Stone because there was just enough evidence lurking in the special counsel’s activity over the past week that CNN’s team covering the Mueller investigation placed a bet that Stone could be arrested as early as Friday.”

Large news organizations with the kinds of resources CNN has do this kind of work all the time — a fact conservatives like Van Susteren and Hill could know if they were more interested in actually understanding the news industry and the Mueller investigation, rather than immediately attacking them.

 

[bradleygator]

Even if they were tipped off, so what? Law enforcement does it all the time.

 

[bradleygator]

NO WALL EVER! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Trump is such an incredible loser.

Short of the day he resigns(its coming), this has to be the most embarrassing cluster any politician has ever created.

Completely owned by Pelosi. Total amateur hour. Now we’re really going to see this thing go off the rails as the humiliation sets in and he tries to save face. He’ll probably end up carpet bombing the border.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

If Faux News was a real news group, they would understand how reporting works:

CNN producer David Shortell and photojournalist Gilbert De La Rosa were outside Stone’s home Friday morning to witness the FBI approaching Stone’s door to arrest him on a seven-count indictment that special counsel Robert Mueller’s grand jury approved a day earlier,” CNN explained in a story

Well! That settles that.

"Yeah me and my photojournalist just happened to be strolling to a Dunkin Donuts (with all our gear) for breakfast, when Gilbert said 'I say old boy, why is that an FBI raid at Roger Stone's house? By jove....I believe it is! Let's investigate!"

 

[bradleygator]

Well! That settles that.

"Yeah me and my photojournalist just happened to be strolling to a Dunkin Donuts (with all our gear) for breakfast, when Gilbert said 'I say old boy, why is that an FBI raid at Roger Stone's house? By jove....I believe it is! Let's investigate!"

Is this all you have left to cling to? Sad!

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Is this all you have left to cling to? Sad!

Sorry bro, this is like the 50th time you guys have found your 'smoking gun' that's gonna take down Trump. I mean broke clock is right twice a day and all that, but...

 

[urtren]

It's amazing how you Trumpies jump all over a media conspiracy theory when it suits you, but ignore the uncomfortable ones completely.
Michael Cohens only other client, at the Trump rallies, now complicit with Stone and Wikileaks? And CNN is Fake News?
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/fo...ctives-newly-revealed-stone-wikileaks-emails/

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

It's amazing how you Trumpies jump all over a media conspiracy theory when it suits you, but ignore the uncomfortable ones completely.
Michael Cohens only other client, at the Trump rallies, now complicit with Stone and Wikileaks? And CNN is Fake News?
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/fo...ctives-newly-revealed-stone-wikileaks-emails/

Media and intelligence agencies the world over have been trying to find proof of Trump-Russia collusion for almost 4 years now.

So far, not a shred of evidence has been found.

Critical thinker knows that means there are only two possibilties:

1 - Trump didn't collude with Russia.

2 - Trump colluded with Russia, and did it so well that he hid all evidence from the MSM, the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the MI6, Scotland Yard and every other major intelligence and media source on the planet.

That would make Donald Trump officially the smartest man on the planet.

And again.....colluding with Russia isn't even a crime.

Don't you guys ever stop to think that he's making fools of you? Because I can promise that the rest of us do. Every day.

 

[urtren]

I notice you glossed over my media comment, but I'll bite:

https://themoscowproject.org/explai...rs-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/

1. The guy investigating the issue(Mueller) would heartily disagree and has 37 indictments to show for it.

2. The ass clowns running the investigations in Congess prior to January of this year had no interest in finding anything.
Devin Nunes to Trump Jr - "Did you talk to Russians?" Trump Jr- "Nope". Nunes - "Ok! Great, thanks for coming, no need to to look at any evidence, he said no!"
This changes with Dem subpoena power.

3. Chris Steele put together quite a nice book of MI6 evidence which the GOP paid him to start, NONE of which has been disproved, despite the howling of the right.

The more reality based argument -
There were more than 100 proven contacts between Trump campaign associates and Russia,
What's more realistic

1. Trump had no clue what ANYONE in the campaign was doing

2. Trump wanted to win, help his Russian lenders, and encouraged his people to do anything to win, as he has his entire life.

Paragraph 44 from Mueller GRU indictment of 12 Russians:
44. The Conspirators, posing as Guccifer 2.0, also communicated with U.S. persons about the
release of stolen documents. On or about August 15, 2016, the Conspirators, posing as Guccifer
2.0, wrote to a person who wasin regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign
of Donald J. Trump, “thank u for writing back . . . do u find anyt[h]ing interesting in the docs i
posted?” On or about August 17, 2016, the Conspirators added, “please tell me if i can help u
anyhow . . . it would be a great pleasure to me.” On or about September 9, 2016, the Conspirators,
again posing as Guccifer 2.0, referred to a stolen DCCC document posted online and asked the
person, “what do u think of the info on the turnout model for the democrats entire presidential
campaign.” The person responded, “[p]retty standard.

Yep, that's what I thought.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Guess what word never appeared in your wall of text?

'Collusion'.

 

[urtren]

col·lu·sion
/kəˈlo͞oZHən/
noun

1. secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

Sorry you failed reading comprehension

 

[bradleygator]

Sorry bro, this is like the 50th time you guys have found your 'smoking gun' that's gonna take down Trump. I mean broke clock is right twice a day and all that, but...

How many more henchmen and bagmen does he have left?

 

[bradleygator]

Former lobbying partner of Manafort. All coincidence I’m sure. Just read he drew the judge that threw Manafort in jail. Ouch!

 

[bradleygator]

You know things are going bad when the Nixon Foundation wants to keep its distance from you.

Look at the photo in the story. He loves it! This guy's gangsta.

 

[bradleygator]

“This morning’s widely-circulated characterization of Roger Stone as a Nixon campaign aide or adviser is a gross misstatement,” the foundation for President Richard Nixon said in a statement.

He's going to sully the good Nixon name!

 

[nail1988]

col·lu·sion
/kəˈlo͞oZHən/
noun

1. secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

Sorry you failed reading comprehension

Collusion’s not a crime

The Clinton Crime family is who should be under investigation

 

[BoxofFrogs]

Collusion’s not a crime

The Clinton Crime family is who should be under investigation

And standing right beside the Clinton Crime family should be the Bush Crime family!
so while we're at it lets not forget about that cocaine dealing Oliver North.
Ain't that right Brother Mull. That's right Mrs. Mull!

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Collusion’s not a crime

The Clinton Crime family is who should be under investigation

Key of Stone indictment is he lied to congress.

James Comey
James Clapper
Cheryl Millls
Huma Abedin

All lied to Congress as well. No indictments.

Well.....none that have been made public.

 

[urtren]

Prosecutors have to show their work at the end of the day. Congressional Investigations are kangaroo courts until they actually refer evidence to the adults.
I tend to believe prosecutors over politicians, conspiracy theorists and bullshit artists.

Show me the prosecutorial evidence, ANY indictment related to any of the above nonsense, or please stop with the QANON BS.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Prosecutors have to show their work at the end of the day. Congressional Investigations are kangaroo courts until they actually refer evidence to the adults.
I tend to believe prosecutors over politicians, conspiracy theorists and bullshit artists.

Show me the prosecutorial evidence, ANY indictment related to any of the above nonsense, or please stop with the QANON BS.

That's the point. If Stone's indictment is based on him lying to Congress, then we need to see indictments for other people who have lied to Congress.

Right?

 

[urtren]

No, the point is there would be an indictment if there was a freakin reason. Jesus man, you don't get to charge people just for the hell of it, as much as Trump wants to.
The more likely reason for no indictment? NO EVIDENCE. Lying to Congress is not easy to prove. Just shows you how blatant all these idiots were about it.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

No, the point is there would be an indictment if there was a freakin reason.

And according to Stone's indictment, that reason is lying to Congress. If that's the standard, let's give indictments to EVERYONE that lied to Congress.

Fair?

 

[bradleygator]

And according to Stone's indictment, that reason is lying to Congress. If that's the standard, let's give indictments to EVERYONE that lied to Congress, not just our political enemies.

Fair?

If he agrees are you going to forward this thread to the FBI and demand indictments based on your and urtren’s consensus?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

If he agrees are you going to forward this thread to the FBI and demand indictments based on your and urtren’s consensus?

Fine by me, as long as the same standard is applied to everyone.

 

[urtren]

I am all for indictments for those proven to have lied to Congress. Yet to see any evidence provided for any of Ghosts' wish list.

Saw plenty of evidence provided by Mueller for Stone.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I am all for indictments for those proven to have lied to Congress. Yet to see any evidence provided for any of Ghosts' wish list.

Saw plenty of evidence provided by Mueller for Stone.

Then you haven't been paying attention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...g-to-do/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.59c269b50c9f

"Comey's responses appear to be at least somewhat inconsistent with a statement that former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe issued last month after his own firing, which the Justice Department attributed in part to “an unauthorized disclosure to the news media.”

[Inspector general report faults Andrew McCabe for unauthorized disclosure of information, misleading investigators]

The disclosure, part of a Wall Street Journal report about FBI investigations into Clinton's family foundation and private email usage as secretary of state, occurred in October 2016 — seven months before Comey's exchange with Grassley. According to McCabe, the disclosure “was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter.”

Comey has some explaining to do."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...g-congress-jonathan-turley-column/1045991001/

"Later, Clapper said that his testimony was “the least untruthful” statement he could make. That would still make it a lie of course but Clapper is a made guy. While feigned shock and disgust, most Democratic leaders notably did not call for his prosecution. "

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...mey-huma-abedin-investigation-0430-story.html

"By charging former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn for lying to the FBI, Mueller emphasized that even the appearance of false testimony is felonious behavior.

If that is so, then the DOJ will likely have to charge former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe with perjury or related offenses. A report from the Office of the Inspector General indicates that McCabe lied at least four times to federal investigators.

Former FBI Director James Comey may also have lied to Congress when he testified that he had not written his report on the Hillary Clinton email scandal before interviewing Clinton. Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former CIA Director John Brennan lied under oath to Congress on matters related to surveillance.

Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin likely lied when they told FBI investigators they had no idea that their then-boss, Hillary Clinton, was using an illegal private email server. Both had communicated with Clinton about it."

Spin away.

 

[urtren]

Oh, now the media is a credible source?

Washington Post, USA Today, Chicago Tribune? I am so disappointed in you!

But that's my point, even though those stories are out, and you had a rabid GOP investigation into these matters, there obviously wasn't strong enough evidence to bring a case. Beyond a reasonable doubt is a high bar. Up to the DOJ, not you or QANON or me to decide.