CNN in a dither over new Tennessee law:

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

No freeloaders are allowed in Tennessee.

@gatordad3 @GhostOfMatchesMalone @instaGATOR @blubo @FresnoGator @BCSpell @BayouGator1995 @jfegaly

 

[jfegaly]

No freeloaders are allowed in Tennessee.

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@gatordad3 @GhostOfMatchesMalone @instaGATOR @blubo @FresnoGator @BCSpell @BayouGator1995 @jfegaly

Wife and I spent a couple weeks in dandridge Tennessee a year ago. One of our favorite stops.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

No freeloaders are allowed in Tennessee.

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@gatordad3 @GhostOfMatchesMalone @instaGATOR @blubo @FresnoGator @BCSpell @BayouGator1995 @jfegaly

Seems like they have misspelled DEMOCRAT again....

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

This doesn't seem very Christian to me. Where are they supposed to go?

 

[Timmer5]

This doesn't seem very Christian to me. Where are they supposed to go?

Does it seem very Islamic, Buddhist, Judaist, or Hinduist to you?

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

Does it seem very Islamic, Buddhist, Judaist, or Hinduist to you?

I'm not an adherent of those religions, so I couldn't say. I imagine that any religion that preaches love and compassion would have a problem with this.

Perhaps this was a carefully planned media event. But the camp, and its inhabitants looked clean, and rather elderly. It's not like they were a bunch of dirty hippies shooting drugs and defecating in the sidewalk.

There's 80 thousand homeless veterans and 1.5 million homeless children in the United States. That's our warfighters and our future. Never mind the fact that these are Americans.

You're focusing on the wrong part of my post. So I say again, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO?

 

[Timmer5]

I'm not an adherent of those religions, so I couldn't say. I imagine that any religion that preaches love and compassion would have a problem with this.

Perhaps this was a carefully planned media event. But the camp, and its inhabitants looked clean, and rather elderly. It's not like they were a bunch of dirty hippies shooting drugs and defecating in the sidewalk.

There's 80 million homeless veterans and 1.5 homeless children in the United States. That's our warfighters and our future. Never mind the fact that these are Americans.

You're focusing on the wrong part of my post. So I say again, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO?

I wasnt picking on you or messing with you. I asked because you only named one religion and so many people race to blame any/everything on Christianity.

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

I wasnt picking on you or messing with you. I asked because you only named one religion and so many people race to blame any/everything on Christianity.

Oh. that's my bad I was speaking from my point of view.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

This doesn't seem very Christian to me. Where are they supposed to go?

To shelters or other charities. Not just prop up a tent and steal from the community.

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

To shelters or other charities. Not just prop up a tent and steal from the community.

How do you know they're stealing?
It's public land, why can't they stay there if they aren't bothering anyone or committing crimes other than squatting on public land?

Presumably they were taxpayers at some point.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

This doesn't seem very Christian to me. Where are they supposed to go?

The Christian charities will still be offered, this is simply a new law to prevent people from camping on the sidewalks and preying on the community stores for supplies and basic needs.

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

The Christian charities will still be offered, this is simply a new law to prevent people from camping on the sidewalks and preying on the community stores for supplies and basic needs.

Oh. Well that's different and not what was portrayed in the video.

I suspected that was a planned photo op.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

How do you know they're stealing?
It's public land, why can't they stay there if they aren't bothering anyone or committing crimes other than squatting on public land?

Presumably they were taxpayers at some point.

If they are camping on the sidewalk they aren't paying taxes like other members of the city. They are stealing from the local gov't.

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

If they are camping on the sidewalk they aren't paying taxes like other members of the city. They are stealing from the local gov't.

See my response above.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Oh. Well that's different and not what was portrayed in the video.

I suspected that was a planned photo op.

Yes...cnn always sides with criminals over tax-paying citizens. It's their go-to, playing the victim.

 

[LinksGator]

There's 80 million homeless veterans and 1.5 homeless children in the United States. That's our warfighters and our future. Never mind the fact that these are Americans.

You're focusing on the wrong part of my post. So I say again, WHERE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GO?

1/4 of America are homeless vets? At least Joe kept 13 from becoming homeless.

Maybe NYC or Portland...... lets help them by solving or at least lessening the number of single parent homes, drug usage, and mental health challenges. Maybe you will take half a dozen on your street or in your home?

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

1/4 of America are homeless vets? At least Joe kept 13 from becoming homeless.

Maybe NYC or Portland...... lets help them by solving or at least lessening the number of single parent homes, drug usage, and mental health challenges. Maybe you will take half a dozen on your street or in your home?

Right^^^yet, we keep opening our borders to more homeless/destitute people and no place to put them. How stupid is our Fed Gov't? If you had 50 dogs living outside of your home they'd fine you and possibly put you behind bars for animal cruelty. But, people are allowed to camp in the streets of many large cities in the US. They treat dogs better than humans.

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

1/4 of America are homeless vets? At least Joe kept 13 from becoming homeless.

Maybe NYC or Portland...... lets help them by solving or at least lessening the number of single parent homes, drug usage, and mental health challenges. Maybe you will take half a dozen on your street or in your home?

My mistake, 80,000 homeless veterans.

I have no sympathy for drug users or able bodied homeless. But the mentally ill, children, veterans, and poor people that most likely were paycheck to paycheck and hand to mouth before something catastrophic happened deserve our help.

And I try to help the homeless whenever I can.

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

Yes...cnn always sides with criminals over tax-paying citizens. It's their go-to, playing the victim.

And this is why I don't watch CNN, apparently I'm easily duped.

 

[nail1988]

No freeloaders are allowed in Tennessee.

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@gatordad3 @GhostOfMatchesMalone @instaGATOR @blubo @FresnoGator @BCSpell @BayouGator1995 @jfegaly

I lived in Nashville ( green hills ) for 5 years. I use to see a few tents down on 12 th porter/ by Thousand Oaks in the barrio / section eight housing heading downtown taking my wife to work.Nashville did a good job not putting up with at the time and they where removed quickly. I will Never ever forget the black midget sitting everyday at the bus stop with a 40 of bud in his hand grinning like a possum.

they need to ship these folks to blue states like we do the criminal invaders. . I do feel for the people/ but the leftist are more equipped to handle the problem they have created.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

If they are camping on the sidewalk they aren't paying taxes like other members of the city. They are stealing from the local gov't.

I have to disagree here .

Taxation for anything other than the necessities is theft.

Not having property and not paying property tax is NOT theft.

Tourists use those sidewalks for free.

Dipstick Cooper is also got a h@rdon for street vendors and trasnportainment. He is a little dictator who appaertly wants to turn Nashville into an HOA.

But the camping law is a state law not a homeless in Nashville law.

It was enacted to prevent riots. It was originally passed in 2012 after the occupy Nashville riots and amended in 2022.

When you see a dude on 2nd avenue pee on himself while laying in a sleeping bag during the middle of the day you know the homeless was not the target of the "state property" law.

The new law says "public property" so it would apply to the guy sleeping on a city sidewalk now. But the laws intent is to prevent riots like was seen in 2020.

The homeless and Full time RV people will take a hit as TN has no BLM land.

I feel the mentally ill and drug addicted homeless should be made to go to a shelter but people who choose to live in a RV should be left alone as long as they are not obstructing others.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I lived in Nashville ( green hills ) for 5 years. I use to see a few tents down on 12 th porter/ by Thousand Oaks in the barrio / section eight housing heading downtown taking my wife to work.Nashville did a good job not putting up with at the time and they where removed quickly. I will Never ever forget the black midget sitting everyday at the bus stop with a 40 of bud in his hand grinning like a possum.

they need to ship these folks to blue states like we do the criminal invaders. . I do feel for the people/ but the leftist are more equipped to handle the problem they have created.

Did you ever talk to or see "Cowboy" on the corner of Murfreesboro road and the exit ramp of I-24? He had an electric wheelchair and lived in a van. He "sold" those homeless newspapers.

He passed away Feb of 2017 or 2018. Dont remember the exact year

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I have to disagree here .

Taxation for anything other than the necessities is theft.

Not having property and not paying property tax is NOT theft.

Tourists use those sidewalks for free.

Dipstick Cooper is also got a h@rdon for street vendors and trasnportainment. He is a little dictator who appaertly wants to turn Nashville into an HOA.

But the camping law is a state law not a homeless in Nashville law.

It was enacted to prevent riots. It was originally passed in 2012 after the occupy Nashville riots and amended in 2022.

When you see a dude on 2nd avenue pee on himself while laying in a sleeping bag during the middle of the day you know the homeless was not the target of the "state property" law.

The new law says "public property" so it would apply to the guy sleeping on a city sidewalk now. But the laws intent is to prevent riots like was seen in 2020.

The homeless and Full time RV people will take a hit as TN has no BLM land.

I feel the mentally ill and drug addicted homeless should be made to go to a shelter but people who choose to live in a RV should be left alone as long as they are not obstructing others.

They use those sidewalks to walk not live. Yes, it is to keep angry mobs of looters away from businesses and that is a good thing, IMO. I don't want to see public buildings being torched over false narratives in Tennessee.

 

[nail1988]

Did you ever talk to or see "Cowboy" on the corner of Murfreesboro road and the exit ramp of I-24? He had an electric wheelchair and lived in a van. He "sold" those homeless newspapers.

He passed away Feb of 2017 or 2018. Dont remember the exact year

I know who you’re talking about. 🤭😭

I also met the toe licker in Lebanon ( can’t remember his name but he hung out downtown ) he was on Jerry Springer because of his sick fetishize.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I have to disagree here .

Taxation for anything other than the necessities is theft.

Not having property and not paying property tax is NOT theft.

Tourists use those sidewalks for free.

Dipstick Cooper is also got a h@rdon for street vendors and trasnportainment. He is a little dictator who appaertly wants to turn Nashville into an HOA.

But the camping law is a state law not a homeless in Nashville law.

It was enacted to prevent riots. It was originally passed in 2012 after the occupy Nashville riots and amended in 2022.

When you see a dude on 2nd avenue pee on himself while laying in a sleeping bag during the middle of the day you know the homeless was not the target of the "state property" law.

The new law says "public property" so it would apply to the guy sleeping on a city sidewalk now. But the laws intent is to prevent riots like was seen in 2020.

The homeless and Full time RV people will take a hit as TN has no BLM land.

I feel the mentally ill and drug addicted homeless should be made to go to a shelter but people who choose to live in a RV should be left alone as long as they are not obstructing others.

People living in RVs or vehicles as long as they can move them and they are not broken down would not be the target of this law.

 

[BamaFan1137]

This doesn't seem very Christian to me. Where are they supposed to go?

The real problem here is our utter lack of options for people with mental illness. We need FAR more permanent beds for people with mental illness...for their sake and for public safety. Our current system is cruel to both parties.

Fix mental health issues and our homeless problems become much more manageable.

That fix will require compromise. It will cost money which people like me hate and the libs would have to be reasonable on their accommodations.

 

[instaGATOR]

This doesn't seem very Christian to me. Where are they supposed to go?

How about to any job at all, no matter how menial, where they can support themselves and try to improve their own situations.

As to that whiny Christian BS, God Helps Those That Help Themselves.

God and Christians are not supposed to be enablers for the useless sorry, that demand that someone else guarantee their survival or well being. Life is a 'Do-It-Yourself Project,' so get up off your butt and begin to work at it, or just lay down and die with the rest of the worthless parasites....

The White Privilege BS is another thing. I grew up in a lower middle-class home with 2 older brothers and an older sister. I got shit and hand me downs. I never got a break from anyone and was left to mostly run the streets. I was working a paper route in the E.end of Ybor City/Tampa when I was 10 years old, off of a 2nd hand 24" bicycle with a broom handle and veggie crate on the handle bars to carry the papers. I've had and worked jobs ever since then. Lumber yards, gas stations, tomato packing houses, picker field work, a nasty concrete block foundry among others. That and more was all before I quit HS in my Sr year to volunteer to go to VN to serve my country at war. I never had a draft card, because I was in Combat Zone 3 months after I turned 18 years old.

In my poor neighborhood, the whites, blacks and Hispanics all had similar chitty circumstances. Some struggled, worked, improved, and escaped. Others turned to crime and went to jail or ended up dead before they got out of their 20's. Personal choices and personal responsibilities determined the outcomes.

The coddled liberal white privileged in the NE or on the left coast can kiss my ass when it comes to feeling guilty because I worked my own way out of that hell on my own, with zero help from family or anyone else. My wonderful country raised bride of 48 years and I, worked for and got everything on our own. We raised our kids and sent them out to get it done on their own, with lots of love, and what small help we could provide to them. They have survived and done well enough so far. I had no good experience or any instruction book on raising kids, so we just did the best we could and made sure that they knew they were loved. They never went cold or hungry, no matter what I had to do to provide for them.

I'm a proud, self-sufficient, and personally responsible American Citizen 'that don't want nothing, if I can't get it on my own.' More like us and this country wouldn't be in the chit-hole shape that it's in right now...... 🤓

 

[Timmer5]

“God and Christians are not supposed to be enablers for the useless sorry, AKA DEMOCRATS AND LIBTARDS, that demand that someone else guarantee their survival or well being. Life is a 'Do-It-Yourself Project,' so get up off your butt and begin to work at it, or just lay down and die with the rest of the worthless parasites”

FIFY

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

I suppose you're both entitled to your opinion, but I find it lacks compassion.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

My mistake, 80,000 homeless veterans.

I have no sympathy for drug users or able bodied homeless. But the mentally ill, children, veterans, and poor people that most likely were paycheck to paycheck and hand to mouth before something catastrophic happened deserve our help.

And I try to help the homeless whenever I can.

That is laudable and I applaud the hard work done by charities and other institutions across the U.S.

Veterans are a separate cohort.

On the above, here is the issue. The Biden administration is letting millions of similarly cohorted individuals pass through the border. Who is going to pay for them again?

Also, why stop at our border? Does Christianity stop there? Why not send our tax monies and support every individual you note above in all parts of the globe?

Separate, note, this is also why I am pro-choice. If a woman and family cannot support a child, then do not bring that individual into the world. We have finite resources. I am an Episcopalian (lightly - go to Easter and Christmas services), want to do well by my fellow person, give generously in the community, easily pay $300K/year plus in taxes but am not devoting my life as would a priest.

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

That is laudable and I applaud the hard work done by charities and other institutions across the U.S.

Veterans are a separate cohort.

On the above, here is the issue. The Biden administration is letting millions of similarly cohorted individuals pass through the border. Who is going to pay for them again?

Also, why stop at our border? Does Christianity stop there? Why not send our tax monies and support every individual you note above in all parts of the globe?

Separate, note, this is also why I am pro-choice. If a woman and family cannot support a child, then do not bring that individual into the world. We have finite resources. I am an Episcopalian (lightly - go to Easter and Christmas services), want to do well by my fellow person, give generously in the community, easily pay $300K/year plus in taxes but am not devoting my life as would a priest.

Thank you for your thoughtful response.

I am a Christian first, obviously, but I am an American. So my priorities lie with America first.

While I would like to help deserving people in need everywhere, I recognize that charity begins at home, and there is a finite amount of resources to be had.

So, your point is valid. Allowing hordes of non Americans to enter the country Willy Nilly, and to consider diverting resources from our veterans to do so, is ridiculous in the extreme, and thanks to @instaGATOR for pointing out this travesty multiple times.

We should be taking care of our veterans and homeless children first and foremost, before a single penny of foreign aid is approved. And we definitely shouldn't be spending anything on those who don't believe in or can't be bothered to observe our laws and become American citizens.

Yes I'm starting to realize I'm a bit of a bleeding heart and I acknowledge that.

 

[NavigatorII]

How do you know they're stealing?
It's public land, why can't they stay there if they aren't bothering anyone or committing crimes other than squatting on public land?
Presumably they were taxpayers at some point.

No offense but I think that's very presumptuous on your part.

The US doesn't treat their veterans well at all. Hell, under this administration illegals have more benefits and that's just stupid.

 

[HONKifUvCOACHED4BAMA]

Wife and I spent a couple weeks in dandridge Tennessee a year ago. One of our favorite stops.

Were you there in an RV? If so, where did you camp?

 

[GatorshimesSubParMember]

No offense but I think that's very presumptuous on your part.

The US doesn't treat their veterans well at all. Hell, under this administration illegals have more benefits and that's just stupid.

None taken.
But this isn't the UK where you can be on the dole cradle to grave.

Or maybe these days you can.

I'm a sailor myself. And I think Raygraves referred to tricare and the VA as "government benefits" in another threads, which makes me think he's had no dealings with either.

 

[NavigatorII]

None taken.
But this isn't the UK where you can be on the dole cradle to grave.

Or maybe these days you can.

I'm a sailor myself. And I think Raygraves referred to tricare and the VA as "government benefits" in another threads, which makes me think he's had no dealings with either.

The VA has been a running joke for years. It's a shining example of "government sucks at health care". The idiots who think a single payor system have no clue.

 

[Mdfgator]

I suppose you're both entitled to your opinion, but I find it lacks compassion.

ya think!!!!

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

No offense but I think that's very presumptuous on your part.

The US doesn't treat their veterans well at all. Hell, under this administration illegals have more benefits and that's just stupid.

Exactly. Vets are put out to pasture after the military has exhausted them. They treat illegals way better and have better healthcare from day one than the VA provides. I work with DAV and other groups that help veterans (no dishonorably discharged vets) that have barriers to basic needs. There are some horror stories out there.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

And this is why I don't watch CNN, apparently I'm easily duped.

CNN left Headline News when Ted Turner relinquished his ownership.

 

[fatman76]

My mistake, 80,000 homeless veterans.

I have no sympathy for drug users or able bodied homeless. But the mentally ill, children, veterans, and poor people that most likely were paycheck to paycheck and hand to mouth before something catastrophic happened deserve our help.

And I try to help the homeless whenever I can.

Drug use/addiction is a form of mental illness. Most hard drug users reach a point where they no longer want to be addicted before they die.

Laws like this break the cycle of bad choices, forcing homeless people into the shelter system (or jail if they don't want to go to shelter) where there's a roof over their head and at least some resources to help turn their life around. Yes, you can get GED's, job training and other forms of help even in jail in some instances.

Lady who'd been on the street for a year is probably never getting out of the tailspin she's in without a law like this.

But why are we talking about this - @kalimgoodman just posted a tweet that America is doing better than ever - how do we have homeless problems in Joe Biden's economic utopia?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

What happens if they start this program in Houston? @BSC911 do you have a contingency plan in place?