You are wrong there. He is a stupid Bammer. And a T-shirt fan at that.Ghost you are not a stupid man so don't act like it. there is no difference where politicians are concerned. They are all good at lying
He speaks the truth.
Clinton didn’t start the CRA . You guys are clueless.I'd agree that Clinton was more of a beneficiary of a good economy rather than the catalyst. Clinton was also instrumental in creating easy credit that eventually crashed the real estate bubble.
“Under Clinton’s Housing and Urban Development (HUD) secretary, Andrew Cuomo, Community Reinvestment Act regulators gave banks higher ratings for home loans made in ‘credit-deprived’ areas. Banks were effectively rewarded for throwing out sound underwriting standards and writing loans to those who were at high risk of defaulting.
I'll personally add that the banking/mortgage industry got their greedy mitts on this as well, easy money and fake collateral. But Clinton was the brain trust for it.
Clinton didn’t start the CRA . You guys are clueless.
Clinton didn’t start the CRA . You guys are clueless.
Seems like we had two Pub presidents before Clinton. Blaming Clinton for the CRA is just ignorant.BTW, Jimmy Carter signed CRA into law.
FNMA and Freddie Mac weren’t the reason for the the mortgage crisis. I can go into more detail if you’ll be willing to listen.Nope but he did require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to devote a percentage of their lending to high risk mortgages. Too high of a percentage as it turns out...and THAT is what ended up biting us in the ass.
You either already knew that and chose to be intellectually dishonest or you didn't, and showed yourself to be clueless on the subject. Which scenario is better IYO?
Next he made it much easier for interstate banks to merge which compounded the impact of the bubble bursting...preventing it from being contained and instead allowing an avalanche.
Finally, in 1999, he signed a bill which repealed Glass-Steagall....and everything needed for the housing crisis was in place. Congress was stupid too (what else is new) but your pretending that Clinton was somehow not directly responsible for the housing crisis is downright dishonest or downright dumb as dogsh1t.
Derp.Raising taxes and REGULATION tends more to to shrink the economy. Biden promises his share of regulation. Fazing out Evil Big Oil. A reminder. Biden promises economic stagnation and higher crime rates. This is not hard. This is not classical mechanics.
LOL.You are the biggest blind partisan in the history of message boards.Right. So basically you vote for the guy/gal with the D next to their name.
They own you. I just don't think that way, I vote issues not parties.
Seems like we had two Pub presidents before Clinton. Blaming Clinton for the CRA is just ignorant.
FNMA and Freddie Mac weren’t the reason for the the mortgage crisis. I can go into more detail if you’ll be willing to listen.
And Glass Steagell are also irrelevant. You’re close, but still off. Do you even know what Glass Steagel was about?
And Glass Steagell are also irrelevant. You’re close, but still off. Do you even know what Glass Steagel was about?
After 6 Fed rate hikes, the NASDCAQ crash came in March, 2000. Little G. W. was elected in Nov., 2000. The NY Times naturally blamed G Dub for the recession he inherited.Nope we were already in recovery when Clinton took office.
Q4 1990 and Q1 1991 were negative and just barely met the definition of recession (2 qrts of neg growth) 1991 q2,q3,q4 were positive. All of 92 the election year was positive.
SO I was actually wrong in saying it was the last 6 months of 92. It was 21 months before Ross for Boss and a tax increase cost H the election to the cigar aficionado who liked human humidors.
A man who never won a majority and won because of 3rd parties.
LOL yeah bought half the house I could afford in 2000 because rates were 8.5 and I knew a recession was coming due to the Fed...knew it was likely a lay-off could occur...it hit but we both skated ...then 911...still ok but clock ran out on me 4-15-2002...yep got laid off on tax dayAfter 6 Fed rate hikes, the NASDCAQ crash came in March, 2000. Little G. W. was elected in Nov., 2000. The NY Times naturally blamed G Dub for the recession he inherited.
Clinton was good for the economy but a foreign policy disaster. Clinton listened to his opponents on the economy. Mugabe did the economy his way with a number of Marxist policies. Marxism is not conducive to robust economic growth. Trump's first quarter in office saw a 1.6 GDP growth rate.
Sure I can. The repeal of parts of Glass Steagal, authored by Phil Gramm btw, had little to do with the subprime mortgage crisis. That was brought on by loosening lending standards, the packaging of CMOs by investment banks, the collapse of credit default risk insurance and Poorly rated securities by the major ratings agencies.LOL, you are FOS friend. You can't BS me on this subject.
The undoing of Glass-Steagel allowed the sh1tshow to spread...much like allowing easier interstate banks mergers. Killing GS allowed institutions to recouple commercial and investment banking.
Have you forgotten how this crisis started? Or are you simply spinning? No reasonably intelligent person who understands these mechanisms and the housing crisis could possibly pretend that Clinton's actions didn't lead directly to the implosion.
...but by all means, spin me a yarn.
How did this thread go from Hunter's laptop,,,,,,,,
Lying about the past to avoid the corruption of the present.
In past elections when we had the well groomed Democrat versus the Rhino Republican I concede the point, your point, i.e., what difference does it make? The choice then was between the lesser of two evils and I usually chose the Rhino because of the more conservative policies.. But then along came Trump. Surprise, surprise, surprise we have a Republican candidate who is not a Rhino. The Washington "swamp" creatures don't like him and if we can get him re-elected they are going to have a meltdown that just won't quit. I can hardly wait.No, I have to vote for someone so since I am a Dem., What difference does it make?
No I vote for the person except in the case of President this year. I had no problem choosing given the Rep noRight. So basically you vote for the guy/gal with the D next to their name.
They own you. I just don't think that way, I vote issues not parties.
noth, understand where you are coming from, I am just hoping that enough voters have had their fill of the Trumpster. Wont be long before we know. I believe this election is going to very close when all is said and done.In past elections when we had the well groomed Democrat versus the Rhino Republican I concede the point, your point, i.e., what difference does it make? The choice then was between the lesser of two evils and I usually chose the Rhino because of the more conservative policies.. But then along came Trump. Surprise, surprise, surprise we have a Republican candidate who is not a Rhino. The Washington "swamp" creatures don't like him and if we can get him re-elected they are going to have a meltdown that just won't quit. I can hardly wait.
I respect that. I wish I could help you but stuff happens. I have a daughter and granddaughter, who I love dearly, and they continue to hang with the Dims. I can't help them either but I still have hope that maybe one of these days I can save them.No I vote for the person except in the case of President this year. I had no problem choosing given the Rep no
noth, understand where you are coming from, I am just hoping that enough voters have had their fill of the Trumpster. Wont be long before we know. I believe this election is going to very close when all is said and done.
No I vote for the person except in the case of President this year. I had no problem choosing given the Rep no
noth, understand where you are coming from, I am just hoping that enough voters have had their fill of the Trumpster. Wont be long before we know. I believe this election is going to very close when all is said and done.
Man you are full of it. Trump is the one won't accept a loss.Only if the Rat's fraudulent write-in's flood in for weeks after election day is over will that happen.
Nancy Pil-low-see -- "Joe, don't concede the election, no matter what the vote is...."
And the ugly be-ach Arkancide Hillbillery agrees with that....
If it is close, I don't see either side conceding easily.Man you are full of it. Trump is the one won't accept a loss.
Insta, I agree with you just on about everything you say politically. But man. Making fun of hillbillies will not get you many friends. Many Trump voters are hillbillies including me.Only if the Rat's fraudulent write-in's flood in for weeks after election day is over will that happen.
Nancy Pil-low-see -- "Joe, don't concede the election, no matter what the vote is...."
And the ugly be-ach Arkancide Hillbillery agrees with that....
Sure I can. The repeal of parts of Glass Steagal, authored by Phil Gramm btw, had little to do with the subprime mortgage crisis. That was brought on by loosening lending standards, the packaging of CMOs by investment banks, the collapse of credit default risk insurance and Poorly rated securities by the major ratings agencies.
What part of allowing commercial banks to pursue investment banking caused the crisis? You realize the repeal is still in place, yet we no longer have a real estate crisis.
See above.
Insta, I agree with you just on about everything you say politically. But man. Making fun of hillbillies will not get you many friends. Many Trump voters are hillbillies including me.
HahahahahahahahaAll I can say is wow....
.... that Russian disinformation campaign is the greatest of all time....
..... but no worries... Hunter Biden is not on the ballot...
Man you are full of it. Trump is the one won't accept a loss.
Man you are full of it. Trump is the one won't accept a loss.
classy. bet your family loves this crap you and your cronies live on.
Wow. A simple meme speaks 10,000 words. Well done.
Bama, I have deleted my post, think I misunderstood what you were saying. My apologies.LMAO....I have a lesbian sister.
...so yea, no she doesn't. She's still convinced that Trump will steal her right to be married. I shit you not.
As for the rest of my family, not sure what you mean. Before I react, why don't you clarify it for me?
Bama, I have deleted my post, think I misunderstood what you were saying. My apologies.
appreciate it jimFair enough...I was a bit confused.
LOL, I didn't mean that you were fat or a lesbian fwiw.
Except for the " BamaFan" I believe we could get a long with no animosity after this darn election is out of the picture........jimappreciate it jim