Bama to do 600 million dollars in facility upgrades
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Never need to read his posts, because they are always going to be,,, what they are, and what he will always be. This asswipe stalker arrives to spread his usual crap, and to be the lonely despised drunk loser that he is... 
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who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
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There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
Guess you mean besides a scholarship that is worth over 100k over 4 years?
Scholarships aren’t worth 100k over 4 years. But let’s say they are for arguments sake...most players do not stay on scholarship for 4 years because they’re either going pro, processed, etc. Scholarships are year-to-year too which seems to be casually forgotten...in fact that’s what the majority of ‘transfers’ are, coaches telling players their scholarships won’t be renewed and they should look elsewhere. But again let’s assume scholarships are worth 100k over 4 years and all players stay on scholarship that long:
100k x 85= 8.5 million
That’s how much it would cost the program over four years. Now let’s do some more math. Assume it costs $75 a ticket in a 90k stadium (and we know there are seats way more expensive than that plus concessions, apparel, etc.)
$75 x 90k = $6,750,000
So in ONE home game in ONE year a school would make enough to cover all their scholarships for FOUR years using rough math if you include revenue from concessions and apparel also. The cost of those scholarships are more than covered over a four year period by the money generated from games. Assuming a team has 24 home games using our example above the would make 162 million over 4 years. And that’s just looking at ticket sales. Doesn’t include any tv money or anything.
As shown above, your math is wrong, but assuming it's correct, yes, I mean above the scholarship.
According to USA Today, Alabama football made a profit of $46 Million last year. http://sports.usatoday.com/2018/01/27/alabama-football-turned-46m-profit-in-201617/
FYI, the $46 Million profit is AFTER coaches salaries, of course.
The players and the coaches made that $46 Million profit possible. The coaches are getting paid millions, the players are getting a scholarship.
Seems the players are the ones getting the short end of the stick. More could be done for them.
Looking at it that way college should just make a pro league with the 25 teams that could actually get the big TV money on their own etc and just make it like a pro league and drop the dead weight players that don't produce and let the rest of college football just go out of business if they can't trim their expenses enough to survive. You would see many of these FBS teams operating more like FCS teams in that scenario.
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The large majority of programs take home a profit, don’t let fudging of the numbers fool you. They only ‘lose’ money after being forced to support other non-revenue producing sports. So ironically, the guys who advocate a free market don’t really want a free market at all. Because in a free market sports who lost millions of dollars every year would not survive and that’s basically what’s happening on college campuses. Rob Peter to pay Paul.
That is true with power 5 teams because of the TV money. Many of those lesser teams would be struggling with expenses if it was truly some free market set up.
I remember that former Tampa Bay Bucs owner years ago that was such a tight wad and not spending as much as he should have on players and he screwed up one time and actually came out and said he wasn't worried about the empty stadiums at the time because he got the same money as every other owner when it came to the TV contracts.
Bad news for Insta and his rifle team.
Most players are not processed or don't make it four years, so you are wrong there. Also no one made the argument that the Universities make more. That is a moot point. The point is they receive a lot of value for a scholarship. A ton of money for books, tuition, nutrition, tutors, stipend, the lifelong value of a degree etc...saying they are getting nothing or even close to nothing is wholly inaccurate.
This is old data from the 2014-15 season.
And that's just the direct ship cost, not nearly the schools total cost, (Stadium, training facilities, Shands, etc).
UF - Football Ship - $15,727-Yr x 4 = $62,908 is the bare bones ship costs.
That's not nearly all of the school's costs to have a football athlete on campus.
About 30% of the team is from out of state. To come to UF not on a ship would cost them around $30,000 per year, just in tuition.
Those that make the NFL become instant millionaires (3-5%).
Those that don't can leave with a Top Quality UF Degree.
Who gets a degree?
Everyone that wants one, and then does the necessary work to get it.
IF they don't like the ship deal, then they can work out and train on their own until they meet the minimum age requirement for the NFL, then walk-on and see if they can make a roster. Otherwise, the long 'entitled' few should just sit down and STFU.
http://www.scholarshipstats.com/average-per-athlete.html
And that's just the direct ship cost, not nearly the schools total cost, (Stadium, training facilities, Shands, etc).
UF - Football Ship - $15,727-Yr x 4 = $62,908 is the bare bones ship costs.
That's not nearly all of the school's costs to have a football athlete on campus.
About 30% of the team is from out of state. To come to UF not on a ship would cost them around $30,000 per year, just in tuition.
Those that make the NFL become instant millionaires (3-5%).
Those that don't can leave with a Top Quality UF Degree.
Who gets a degree?
Everyone that wants one, and then does the necessary work to get it.
IF they don't like the ship deal, then they can work out and train on their own until they meet the minimum age requirement for the NFL, then walk-on and see if they can make a roster. Otherwise, the long 'entitled' few should just sit down and STFU.
http://www.scholarshipstats.com/average-per-athlete.html
Actually the math is totally flawed...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...lege-football-scholarship-worth-anyway#slide0
Of course there are who said there wasn't? It was a rough example. They still make more than triple or more what a scholarship costs them over four years, which was the entire point. And those revenue numbers are underreported if anything.
Who is arguing they receive nothing? That's the biggest strawman there is. The argument is and always has been do they receive value in return anywhere close to the value they provide as a whole. Unless you're just bad at math you can't argue they do.
It's a free market. Those that want to be paid should just skip school all together.
They can all come together and 'freely' form their own football league and finance it themselves, keeping all of their profits for themselves.
If the 'entitled' beggars come to D1 and then the NFL instead, then they go by the contracts that they are offered and signed. Pretty simple really...
They can all come together and 'freely' form their own football league and finance it themselves, keeping all of their profits for themselves.
If the 'entitled' beggars come to D1 and then the NFL instead, then they go by the contracts that they are offered and signed. Pretty simple really...
It's a free market. Those that want to be paid should just skip school all together.
They can all come together and 'freely' form their own football league and finance it themselves, keeping all of their profits for themselves.
If the 'entitled' beggars come to D1 and then the NFL instead, then they go by the contracts that they are offered and signed. Pretty simple really...
Pretty simple if you reason like a sixth grader. Anyone looking to start a league to compete would be competing with billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies to the big state schools. Stadiums, practice facilities, coaches, tv contracts and networks, all largely financed by taxpayers, and preventing any real competition. That should bother your free market instincts, except that you are a simpleton.
Genius jerker responses.
So the All Powerful NCAA and NFL don't have a thing to worry about. And the 'entitled' beggars, supported by their 'socialist hanger-on parasite's, are just running their loser mouths some more,,, as is typical for them.
LMFAO for sure now...
So the All Powerful NCAA and NFL don't have a thing to worry about. And the 'entitled' beggars, supported by their 'socialist hanger-on parasite's, are just running their loser mouths some more,,, as is typical for them.
LMFAO for sure now...
At least I have an IQ, unlike the wannabe parasite brain dead hanger's on like you and your fellow jerkers..
Ignore exists for all of the jerks, so I wonder why it is that they cry about being 'force-fed' my posts, which they can't seem to wait to read and respond to them, with their constant line of mindless village idiot drivel?
(something about 'if the foo-chits' I think)
Lol damn this is the most uninformed post i have ever seen. My brother played college football..... Either your stupid or your dumb....which one is it?
Again...rough example. Did I really need to spell that out? Change it to four or five games if it makes you feel better..doesn’t take away from the point any. Which is the cost of scholarships is a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue generated by those scholarship players...even at the overinflated cost of a scholarship you used.
By your deflection I'll assume it is the same brother. Was it just as easy to convince you that most players get paid as it was to convince you about aliens?
Did he hit you with the same "You'd be surprised?" argument?
Just as convincing?
It's not like the schools are writing checks to cover these kids' tuition. That's the (way inflated) value they put on it. They obviously make up for it elsewhere. For every scholarship athlete, they just let in some out of stater and hit them for $30k/per. Again government subsidies. DID YOU HEAR ME FREE MARKETERS!? GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES. Hide the wife and kids!! By the way, tuition costs are driven up by government subsidized loans. MORE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES!!!! Hell half of you babbling about the free market have probably even complained about government school loan subsidies not even realizing you're using the artificially inflated value of tuition to argue against players getting market value for their skills. You probably didn't even understand that sentence.
I didn't understand any of it, but you said a lot of it in ALL CAPS so I'll assume that mean it's important.
Ok but the market value of American professional football players who on average are better than even the upper group of SEC players is 60k a year or so in Canada I think. At many of these schools what they are getting comes out to money in that area as I don't think Canada provides free room and board etc. The same thing when they had that XFL stuff in the US.
You're a moron, you're wrong, and not smart enough to quit when you don't know what you're talking about, so I won't be wasting anymore time on you. Best of luck there Ted Koppel
Anybody who read either of our posts would come away thinking I’m a hell of a lot smarter than you. Your entire contribution to this thread is “but expenses bro!” as if that isn’t understood. That’s why it’s called a rough example. When you start throwing insults you know you’ve lost. Go on with your bad self.
But free market and 100k scholarships! I love watching people flail around using words they don’t understand or talking about economics they don’t understand.
So your stupid....ok that makes sense. Free room and boar, free books, free tuition, free medical, free access to weights and a nutritionist and all kinds of specialist, preference in classes and class grades. ...i mean, when i see football players rolling up in 2018 cars and trucks with expensive rims and stereos and they are 6'4 250 pounds and dont pay a dime....well well well, i assume they are given EVERYTHING for free or.... They gettin paid.
Dead WRONG, or just your usual LIAR self?
You can't even speak well for yourself, so claiming to know what ANYBODY else is thinking is way beyond your limited abilities...
