AZ forensic audit

[fatman76]

76 - I will go back and look over the findings again. I will say, Fox News, which tends to be a good arbiter of whether something "is there" these things, was not talking about this at all.

I agree with the changes to voting laws for Voter ID and managed mail-in voting.

My point to you and other R is move on. Trump is not going to get re-installed. Focus on Voting Laws, Illegal Immigration enforcement and winning over Independents and do not sit at home, sulk, and not vote.

Every MSM outlet glommed onto the recount, which awarded Biden a few hundred votes. But all that demonstrated was that the machine count of the ballots was right. It didn’t address where those ballots came from. But the MSM, including Fox, has a narrative and that supports the narrative

If don’t want to invest a lot of time just watch Dr Shiva’s testimony. It shows 17k clearly duplicate mail in votes. It shows ballot envelopes where the approval stamp was actually printed on the ballot behind other text. It shows approved ballots with no signatures. It shows 30% of these duplicates came in after Election Day.

That’s just on piece of it, there’s 3 hours of it. The IT audit is mind blowing. They have video of Maricopa elections officials changing data logs well after the election.

 

[fatman76]

76 - I will go back and look over the findings again. I will say, Fox News, which tends to be a good arbiter of whether something "is there" these things, was not talking about this at all.

I agree with the changes to voting laws for Voter ID and managed mail-in voting.

My point to you and other R is move on. Trump is not going to get re-installed. Focus on Voting Laws, Illegal Immigration enforcement and winning over Independents and do not sit at home, sulk, and not vote.

It’s not about Trump anymore. Ship sailed a long time ago (for me at least).

It’s about making sure this never happens again. Which is why we can’t let it go.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I'll add: The Chinese currency devalued Election night. Trump won. Las Vegas turned odds to Trump. Trump won. Early, early on Nov. 4 the hanky panky began in 5 states.

Trump upped his vote total from 63 million in 2016 to 74 million in 2020. The Dimms had to work hard to harvest enough Biden marked ballots to overcome Trump's incumbent vote record.

Yep, that's why they had to keep 'finding' ballots. Because Trump's support was so massive that it broke their algorithms.

Lin Wood claims Trump had over 400 EVs, and won California.

@kalimgoodman @LizardGrad89 @grandhavendiddy say nonsense, there was no fraud, Hiden won 81M votes.

Which claim is more believable?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I don’t think you understand what was presented yesterday. At all.

It was far from a clean and fair election. And all they audited was one county in one state.

They found far more fraud in that one county than needed to flip the state.

He doesn't. He knows what MSM told him.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

View embedded media

I find it amusing that over in the covid thread, everyone claims to be a stats whiz.

Yet when they see actual statistical anomolies like this.....silence.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

So Dr. Shiva altered evidence in his presentation to the AZ Senate?

Tell me more.

So @LizardGrad89 just accused Dr Shiva of being a criminal?

Same Dr Shiva that Bill Clinton hired to work for his administration?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

It’s not about Trump anymore. Ship sailed a long time ago (for me at least).

It’s about making sure this never happens again. Which is why we can’t let it go.

No honest American wants to see cheating happen. The people saying let it go are either the cheaters, or they are voting for them.

 

[fatman76]

So @LizardGrad89 just accused Dr Shiva of being a criminal?

Same Dr Shiva that Bill Clinton hired to work for his administration?

He did. And as soon as @LizardGrad89 answers my question I have several more.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

No honest American wants to see cheating happen. The people saying let it go are either the cheaters, or they are voting for them.

Right. Only unethical people would allow cheating. However, you must remember that these people think nothing of aborting 70 million babies, so cheating in an election is as common as insincere salutations.

 

[fatman76]

Right. Only unethical people would allow cheating. However, you must remember that these people think nothing of aborting 70 million babies, so cheating in an election is as common as insincere salutations.

I’m pro choice and don’t want to get into that debate, but I find the law the house passed disgusting. If you support partial birth abortions you are a monster - full stop.

Pelosi Cheers as Dems Pass Radical Abortion Without Limits Bill - Legalizes Partial Birth Abortion, Dismembering Babies, Lifts All Restrictions | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Democrats passed the most radical pro-abortion bill in history on Friday — as Americans remain stranded in Afghanistan and the US southern border remains wide open to unvaccinated illegal aliens.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[fatman76]

No honest American wants to see cheating happen. The people saying let it go are either the cheaters, or they are voting for them.

Some days I honestly can’t handle the lying and obsfucation. It’s never a good idea to let trolls know their bit is working, but it’s getting really old.

Everything except the machines flipping votes was uncovered by this audit. Many times the number needed to flip the state…

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I’m pro choice and don’t want to get into that debate, but I find the law the house passed disgusting. If you support partial birth abortions you are a monster - full stop.

Pelosi Cheers as Dems Pass Radical Abortion Without Limits Bill - Legalizes Partial Birth Abortion, Dismembering Babies, Lifts All Restrictions | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Democrats passed the most radical pro-abortion bill in history on Friday — as Americans remain stranded in Afghanistan and the US southern border remains wide open to unvaccinated illegal aliens.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

I can only say that I have seen the worst-case scenarios on both ends, and I firmly believe that humanity wise after birth abortions are more humane than partial birth but in any abortion, the mother (if she has any love for a child) will certainly regret aborting a baby afterwards. That's the one buyer's remorse that will push you into manic depression.

 

[BSC911]

Are they not breaking our laws of immigration?

No, they are not. Quit listening to scare radio and read the law. You will sound less xenophobic if you choose to be more informed.

Jesus loves all people, no matter their country of origin.

 

[BSC911]

It’s not about Trump anymore. Ship sailed a long time ago (for me at least).

It’s about making sure this never happens again. Which is why we can’t let it go.

LOl. You people are nuts. Seriously.

 

[LizardGrad89]

He did. And as soon as @LizardGrad89 answers my question I have several more.

Let me repeat what I said previously.

Photo.

Shop.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Some days I honestly can’t handle the lying and obsfucation. It’s never a good idea to let trolls know their bit is working, but it’s getting really old.

Everything except the machines flipping votes was uncovered by this audit. Many times the number needed to flip the state…

I love the fact that you think you are willing to take an article from an extremely biased source, based on an "audit" from an extremely biased source, ignore the legitimate rebuttals that make an absolute joke out of these assertions, and think you have some kind of "evidence".

You got NOTHING.

 

[BCSpell]

Millions? LOL. You need to turn off right wing scare media if that is what they are telling you.

In fact, Biden is being criticized for sending plane loads of Haitian refugees back to Haiti. Your media must not be reporting that.

Oh, this group of 30,000 Haitians are the only illegals crossing our border. OK LOL 😂
You do know 100,000+ a month are the illegals being caught and initially detained. A large percentage are from Central America, but you also have them coming from all over the world. AND THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES BEING CAUGHT. Estimates state up to 250,000 are crossing the border every month. Well, at least since February when the Biden Admin basically opened the border.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Oh, this group of 30,000 Haitians are the only illegals crossing our border. OK LOL 😂
You do know 100,000+ a month are the illegals being caught and initially detained. A large percentage are from Central America, but you also have them coming from all over the world. AND THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES BEING CAUGHT. Estimates state up to 250,000 are crossing the border every month. Well, at least since February when the Biden Admin basically opened the border.

From another who can define all seven components of critical thinking.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

They have video of Maricopa elections officials changing data logs well after the election.

We have video of counters in Fulton Co literally pulling hidden suitcases of ballots out from underneath tables and scanning the ballots repeatedly until Hiden moved again in the counts.

@grandhavendiddy says there was no fraud in the election and the best thing Republicans can do is move on. Because we should just accept that dems will change voter logs and add in ballots to push their candidate ahead.

This is what a morally bankrupt voter looks like.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

He did. And as soon as @LizardGrad89 answers my question I have several more.

@LizardGrad89 won't answer because he has no idea what he is talking about.

He just knows that his party didn't cheat and that's that.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Right. Only unethical people would allow cheating. However, you must remember that these people think nothing of aborting 70 million babies, so cheating in an election is as common as insincere salutations.

Roughly 40,000 Americans have died from covid in the last 2 years.

Roughly 1.6M have died from abortion in that same time.

Dems think the world may end over 40k dying from covid, but don't blink an eye at 1.6M dying from abortion.

Abortion is the #1 killer of blacks. Dems are a party of racists. Dots connecting?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Some days I honestly can’t handle the lying and obsfucation. It’s never a good idea to let trolls know their bit is working, but it’s getting really old.

Everything except the machines flipping votes was uncovered by this audit. Many times the number needed to flip the state…

Being a dem requires you to first justify their evil, then eventually you begin to act it out yourself. Look at how @LizardGrad89 and @grandhavendiddy are openly cheering on the dems stealing an election. Everyone here knows if Trump had stolen an election, EVERY POSTER HERE would want it stopped.

Because good and honest people understand what it means for this country if our elections aren't fair and secure. Dems don't care about cheating, as long as their guy wins.

Look at @BSC911 and illegal immigration. He loves the idea of this criminal activity happeing, because he thinks it helps the dems. Babies and children being raped and murdered on the way here, families destroyed. Drugs run into the country so millions of Americans will die.

But since he thinks the illegals will make it easier for dems to stay in power the next election, he doesn't care how many lives are ruined in the process.

Being a dem requires you to truly be an evil, racist, immoral person. As we see here every day.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Roughly 40,000 Americans have died from covid in the last 2 years.

Roughly 1.6M have died from abortion in that same time.

Dems think the world may end over 40k dying from covid, but don't blink an eye at 1.6M dying from abortion.

Abortion is the #1 killer of blacks. Dems are a party of racists. Dots connecting?

Yes...it shows how evil they are to ignore the innocent lives being slaughtered and use their stem cells to preserve the lives of sinners is despicable. The vile serum is really just a way to further divide and vilify the opposition.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I love the fact that you think you are willing to take an article from an extremely biased source, based on an "audit" from an extremely biased source, ignore the legitimate rebuttals that make an absolute joke out of these assertions, and think you have some kind of "evidence".

You got NOTHING.

Go back to your safe space and await your certain death.

 

[LizardGrad89]

From another who can define all seven components of critical thinking.

Listen Ms. Krabappel,

YOU don't understand critical thinking.

A CRITICAL THINKER would realize 250K a month is 3M a year, that is nearly 1% of the 330 million in the US. In 11 years that is 10% of the population. A CRITICAL THINKER would realize there is no possible way the number is that high.

You are a joke.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Go back to your safe space and await your certain death.

Oh, I hurt this one's widdle feewings. But truth so often does that.

 

[fatman76]

I love the fact that you think you are willing to take an article from an extremely biased source, based on an "audit" from an extremely biased source, ignore the legitimate rebuttals that make an absolute joke out of these assertions, and think you have some kind of "evidence".

You got NOTHING.

The voter’s name is on the envelope. There were 17k of those envelopes where that name appeared twice. Explain how that’s affected by bias?

There were envelopes that were pre printed with the signature approval stamps behind other printed information. How again is that affected by bias?

There were physically stamped envelopes (for signature verification) that had no signature at all. How is pointing that out affected by bias?

That’s ONE issue - mail in ballot fraud - in ONE county and it’s almost 2X the total margin for the state.

So I have something and it’s quantitative and impossible to be chalked up to bias. Try again.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Oh, I hurt this one's widdle feewings. But truth so often does that.

What truth? You claimed Dr Shiva engaged in criminal behavior simply because he proved how flawed and potentially corrupt the ballots were in AZ.

The ironic part is, you accused him of being a criminal, but obviously weren't aware that your boy Bill Clinton hired him to work for his administration.

So you're accusing Bill Clinton of working with criminals.

To be fair, you aren't the first to make this accusation.

 

[fatman76]

Oh, I hurt this one's widdle feewings. But truth so often does that.

You wouldn’t know the truth if it dragged its salty nuts across your face.

 

[fatman76]

Listen Ms. Krabappel,

YOU don't understand critical thinking.

A CRITICAL THINKER would realize 250K a month is 3M a year, that is nearly 1% of the 330 million in the US. In 11 years that is 10% of the population. A CRITICAL THINKER would realize there is no possible way the number is that high.

You are a joke.

It was over 10% a decade ago.

Remind me who’s the joke?

https://cis.org/Report/RecordSetting-Decade-Immigration-20002010

 

[LizardGrad89]

The voter’s name is on the envelope. There were 17k of those envelopes where that name appeared twice. Explain how that’s affected by bias?

There were envelopes that were pre printed with the signature approval stamps behind other printed information. How again is that affected by bias?

There were physically stamped envelopes (for signature verification) that had no signature at all. How is pointing that out affected by bias?

That’s ONE issue - mail in ballot fraud - in ONE county and it’s almost 2X the total margin for the state.

So I have something and it’s quantitative and impossible to be chalked up to bias. Try again.

You have people with the same name. Sometimes people have the same name.

You have pictures of forms that would look that way after photoshop.

By law you have 5 days in Arizona to cure a missing signature, and the election workers hunted down these people and got their signatures. Do you know if they have a separate form you can sign to verify a ballot? I'll bet they do. Did you check to see if there were any of those?

YOU.

GOT.

NOTHING.

 

[fatman76]

You have people with the same name. Sometimes people have the same name.

You have pictures of forms that would look that way after photoshop.

By law you have 5 days in Arizona to cure a missing signature, and the election workers hunted down these people and got their signatures. Do you know if they have a separate form you can sign to verify a ballot? I'll bet they do. Did you check to see if there were any of those?

YOU.

GOT.

NOTHING.

Wait - 17k people with the same name and address? Tell me more.

And the printing issue?

And those forms are to be included with the envelope and they weren’t there. Did you watch the presentation? Do you ever do any actual research on anything?

 

[LizardGrad89]

It was over 10% a decade ago.

Remind me who’s the joke?

https://cis.org/Report/RecordSetting-Decade-Immigration-20002010

HAHAHAHAHA.

The TOTAL # of immigrants in the US in 2018 was around 45 million, but 77% of them are LEGAL. So the TOTAL amount of illegals is around 10 million, which is less than 10%, which at the rate Sunburnt Idiot calls "critical thinking", is just over 3 years of immigration. But kinda thinking we've had immigration longer than 3 years.

So you see, in case you've forgotten. YOU'RE THE JOKE.

What the data says about immigrants in the U.S.

In 2022, roughly 10.6 million immigrants living in the U.S. were born in Mexico, making up 23% of all U.S. immigrants.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[LizardGrad89]

Wait - 17k people with the same name and address? Tell me more.

And the printing issue?

And those forms are to be included with the envelope and they weren’t there. Did you watch the presentation? Do you ever do any actual research on anything?

It wasn't 17K people with one identical name, it was 17K people who had a name the same as somebody else. Good glory man.

The one on The Gateway Pundit? Lulz, no. I read the article, that provided sufficient amusement.

 

[fatman76]

HAHAHAHAHA.

The TOTAL # of immigrants in the US in 2018 was around 45 million, but 77% of them are LEGAL. So the TOTAL amount of illegals is around 10 million, which is less than 10%, which at the rate Sunburnt Idiot calls "critical thinking", is just over 3 years of immigration. But kinda thinking we've had immigration longer than 3 years.

So you see, in case you've forgotten. YOU'RE THE JOKE.

In 2018 the right wing think tanks at Yale and MIT estimated the number could be as high as 29MM. You see, that’s the trouble with undocumented immigrants. They aren’t documented. We really have no clue because so many are coming in without being apprehended.

“Fazel-Zarandi's study compared inflows and outflows of immigrants as well as demographic data. According to the report, the number of undocumented immigrants could be as low as 16.5 million, or as high as 29.1 million.”

Yale, MIT study: 22 million, not 11 million, undocumented immigrants in US

The undocumented population in the United States could be twice as large as the most commonly-used estimate, according to a research study published Friday in the scientific journal Plos One.The pa…

thehill.com

 

[fatman76]

It wasn't 17K people with one identical name, it was 17K people who had a name the same as somebody else. Good glory man.

The one on The Gateway Pundit? Lulz, no. I read the article, that provided sufficient amusement.

You’re just being an idiot on purpose.

It’s impossible for there to be 17k different people with the same name at the same address. These are mail in ballot envelopes. They found some people who sent in 3 and 4 ballots from the same name and the same address. Now go get some more talking points.

Dr. Shiva reveals there were over 17,000 duplicate ballots in Maricopa County alone - Rumble

rumble.com

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You’re just being an idiot on purpose.

It’s impossible for there to be 17k different people with the same name at the same address. These are mail in ballot envelopes. They found some people who sent in 3 and 4 ballots from the same name and the same address. Now go get some more talking points.

Dr. Shiva reveals there were over 17,000 duplicate ballots in Maricopa County alone - Rumble

rumble.com

He's yelling at you, but he's mad at himself for defending cheaters.

And he knows they cheated. I don't think he knew it on Election Night, but he does now. That's why he dropped 'count every vote', cause he realized they actually were cheating.

That's when he started yelling and screaming. He's mad at himself.

Eventually he'll learn to accept his party's cheating and embrace it, like the other dems here have.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Listen Ms. Krabappel,

YOU don't understand critical thinking.

A CRITICAL THINKER would realize 250K a month is 3M a year, that is nearly 1% of the 330 million in the US. In 11 years that is 10% of the population. A CRITICAL THINKER would realize there is no possible way the number is that high.

You are a joke.

Math's simplest equation is not a long suit for you is it? BCSpell made it quite simple.

Our thinking are not outraged because you feel 81 million Americans are stupid enough to vote for what we see before us. Relax!!! Calm down. We have questions about a southern border disaster, just as you should.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Oh, I hurt this one's widdle feewings. But truth so often does that.

No, I'm not the least bit hurt, I have pity for fools like you.

 

[BSC911]

No, I'm not the least bit hurt, I have pity for fools like you.

“But Trump really won. I just feel it in my bones.”

Is that your sermon for this week?