They got the SEC hype train to early. I think they are a good team, top 25 team but they definitely got the "SEC bump" in the polls. Gators look legit. Top 8 team for sure.
Aubirn not as good as advertised
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Their defense is worthy of all the praise they get. Just like Clemson’s line last year those two tackles are 1st rounders. And those linebackers can run and hit with anybody. Hard to win with a freshman QB on the road though when you can’t run the ball and they couldn’t against our defense. If Nix keeps improving they’ll be a problem at the end of the year.
Auburn is good on defense. Especially their front seven. Nix is terrible.
Auburn will lose 4 games this year and Malzahn’s name will be thrown around again about getting fired.
Auburn will lose 4 games this year and Malzahn’s name will be thrown around again about getting fired.
They had a great game a week ago, and that’s pretty much it. I said one game doesn’t mean anything. Everyone is dogging Clemson for one game, too. Idiots.
I just feel like the Gators exposed them a bit. I think Bama, Clemson, Oh st, Wisc, and OU are the top.... After that you have UGA, LSU and UF. Those 8 look to be the best so far. SEC looks to be having their best yr in a long time.
SEC was really good last year as well. I believe 4 teams finished in the top 10 and 5 in the top 13. Crazy how good it was!
Nix's overall performance was bad but he has potential. Nice runner, good arm though inaccurate today. I see promise for them as he matures...
They get boosted really high in the rankings all the time, i dont look at rankings. Last yr the SEC had a good yr but not a great yr. I think this is their best yr in the past 7 or 8 yrs.
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So what teams were better than than the 4 teams that were in the top 10?
People always try and say this yet name all the teams that were much better than the 5 teams in the top 12 that didn’t finish in the top 12?? I’ll wait for this long list of teams. It’s pretty funny when somebody says this.
Don't be fooled, you give up containment on the run against Auburn, and they can burn you badly. Florida and Grantham focused on that first and foremost because they weren't going to let Auburn's burner beat them by broken containment the way they did to Mistake State.
Man are you a LOSER! Why don’t you post over at Warchant about you 8-9 coach Willie “Lethal Simplicity” Taggart But, oh yeah, YOU CAN’T as U R??
Wait for it...
BANNED!
Weve been over this. Plus who would put on smile on ur face if im over there? Your welcome.
The only really good SEC teams last yr were UGA and Bama. Bama got ran thru by clemson and Uga gotran thru by texas. UF and LSU are both better this yr. Not saying the SEC wasnt good last yr but they are better this yr. Look at Auburn this yr? THAT team was ranked 7? Sec has been getting this treatment for a LONG time. Auburn is a top 25 team but #7? Nah, thats the "sec bump".
Don't disagree but things usually work out by the end of the season. I think we're top 15 but we're improving and winning. Auburn is a well coached team...that freshman QB is taking his lumps. We out coached them...out defense is good...WR's are the best group on the team. If we stopped the turnovers we would be top 10 IMO. QB play has to get some props. Our O Line isn't great but getting more experience.
I can't believe we're throwing the ball to get first downs and win. lol...that's the biggest surprise for me this year. 6-0 baby!
The SEC gets a bump because we have a much tougher conference over the last 25 years than anyone else. The numbers usually works out but this is a known fact...I might be a little bias but everyone knows it.
The SEC is a meat grinder...especially the west over the last 6-7 years...East was strong in the 90's and early 2000's but only 4 teams can get in and the reason why the SEC has had 2 teams in it for most of the years is because they are better and have proven more with their schedule....quality of teams that they play. Clemson is the ONLY team in the ACC that's really good. UGA, Bama, UF, Auburn, LSU can beat and probably would anyone other team then Clemson in the ACC. UK and a couple of others might take them too.
I agree Auburn isn't #7 and UF is over ranked some. We'll see how it plays out.
What does the last 25 yrs have to do with anything tho? It should be current season only. Last yr the team that has been destroying the sec by 40 pts per game in sec play got their doirs blown off by clemon. SECs 2nd best team got pounded by texas. Outside of an 8 to 9 yr run, different conferences have been better at different times. The SEC rarely plays out of conference games against big opponents because they hide behind the fallacy that their conference is so tough. So if their confrrence only plsys each other then u can just claim that u r the best.
People always take offense to this but its true. The sec has been a top conference but its not miles apart like u think and they have been given the benefit of the doubt in rankings. Avg ranked sec team drops 6 spots when the lose, bama avg is 2.5
All other teams is avg of a little over 8. There is quantifiable sec bias.
There’s no SEC bias, there’s a blue blood bias doesn’t matter the conference. That’s why teams like ND, Ohio St., Michigan, etc. lose games and barely drop. Everyone always talks about the amount of SEC teams in the top 25 but the last two years they haven’t even had the most ranked teams in the preseason polls, the Big 10 has. There are plenty of examples of other teams losing and barely falling in the polls but nobody cares because those teams aren’t hated like SEC teams.
There has been actual research done on this. Im not just saying it. I agree teams like Oh st and ND get similar treatment but again. Bama 2.5, sec 6, every other conf avg is above 8. Sec typically has most ranked teams at the start of the yr. I think most co ferences are close but the sec has been "the best" overall since 2000 but its not as big of a gap as most think. I would also point to bama getting the bigvest "benefit" from sec bias. Out of all their titles 1 or 2 they have an undefeated record. They literally have to lose 2 games to not get in and most other teams (non sec teams) if they lose 1 they are out. Bama is the only team to not even win its conf yet they get put in the playoffs. Crazy. I dont expect any sec fan to admit this and personally im not against the sec. I dont hate them at all but a bias does exist. Im not saying that bias is the sole factor and it may even be slight bias and not a huge bias but there is bias. Most logical non sec fans agree to this as does the research.
College football has the biggest "tribalism" problem i have ever seen. I think why most sec fans argue this because some yrs its true. Some yrs the sec really is the best so it "hides" the bias a bit
No, they're actually much better. They just came up against a better coached team that out played therm in the SWAMP.
Shows everyone how under-rated the sand-bagging Gators are...
(that's my twist on the story,,, and I'm sticking to it,,, for now anyway)
You forgot to mention that we won those playoffs by beating the other teams that were invited to it.
Not every team gets an invite. There is some guesswork in deciding which teams get one. Since 2009 Bama has gotten the benefit of the doubt...probably rightfully so, no? Clemson is getting and will continue to get that same benefit of the doubt because, right or wrong, most people believe they are the or one of the most talented teams in college football.
If any team has gotten (and will continue to get) unwarranted consideration for the playoffs it's Notre Dame.
Bowls, and now the CFP sorts out all of the bs poll dancers at season's end.
And that's when all of the biased moe-rons disappear until next summer...
And that's when all of the biased moe-rons disappear until next summer...
Name another conference that has had more teams win a NC since 2000. The SEC is clearly the most talented conference and has been for some time. Clemson, Oklahoma and Ohio State are occasionally the best team in the country but clearly the SEC has the best collection of teams.
For an educational excercise, line the conferences up side by side pitting #1 to to #1 from each conference then 2, 3, 4, ect all the way to the bottom. If you can do that, and do it honestly, there's no way that you'll come away with any other conclusion than the SEC is the best football conference, period.
Where is this research? All I’ve ever seen is anecdotal examples of fans of teams in other conferences while conveniently ignoring all the other examples of the same thing happening to other teams. There are multiple examples of other teams losing and moving up in the polls and nobody cared because they weren’t SEC teams.
And I’m not even disagreeing with you that there’s bias, I just don’t think it’s a conference thing, it’s a blue blood thing. They want the name brand teams with the biggest fanbases ranked as high as possible for ratings. Look at stuff like Nebraska going 4-8 last year yet being ranked in the top 25 in the preseason. Imagine the outrage if that was an SEC team. But people just gloss over it.
Its in jstor (research database), i read it this summer. It was pretty interesting. As i said, i agree there is a blue blood bias but just because there is a blue blood bias doesnt mean there is not an sec bias. I will try to find the journal when i get time. There is always outliers to mean but on avg, sec teams get the benfit of the doubt far more than other conferences. Maybe because there is more "blue bloods" or perceived blue bloods in the SEC? I even think FSU gets overrated the majority of seasons.
The national championships are what they researched. In over half of the sec titles, sec teams were given favorable rankings in order to put themselves in position to be able to play for a title. Look at the year Bama played LSU. They had already played, at bama and bama lost. OK st had 1 loss in double overtime early in the yr. The study look at if ok st had been bama, they would have had a 99% chance to play in the title game. The name came into account. This happens in every conference, as oozie pointed out but happens more frequently in the SEC. Hell in 13 we played Auburn who had lucked into 3 or 4 wins. Bama did not win a conf championship but STILL got the opportunity to play for a title. When you get more chances, obviously you are going to win more. I do think bama has consistently been the best team until the last 4 yrs where i think Clemson has taken over. However, they also have been given opportunity after opportunity even when they didnt deserve it.
To show i dont have confirmation bias, i think fsu has consistently been overrated by the poll strictly on their name. I just think and it was proven by research that the sec has more "names" in their co ference. I mean hell its not ur fault, im not saying its corrupt and the sec is in cahoots, im saying there is a bias.
And you could probably add some other sports to that list, not just football...
Most other sports are based less on "opinion" and more about winning your conf. I think the ACC gets bias in basketball, ive never seen a study done but it seems that way. You could argue that basketball is opinion based but if u win ur conf or conf tourney u are in, cant say the same for football.
I agree bama has done well in the playoffs and they have made those 2nd opportunities count. I think saban is the best coach of all time in cfb, i respect bama a ton. Nothing against them.
I just think everything should be earned and we shouldnt use past yrs as "evidence".
@fsu939913 that's probably what it is. The SEC has more 'names' because there are more programs with prestige and large fan bases that drive ratings. But again, not really a conference thing as much as a name thing. ND hasn't won shit in 30 years and still get the benefit of the doubt and high ratings every year. Before the SEC took over teams like Ohio St. and Penn St. and Michigan got that treatment every year? Why? History, prestige, and national fan base to drive ratings. Texas had a losing record three straight years here recently and started out in the top 25 the following preseason every single time. Same with the Nebraska example I just gave being ranked after going 4-8. They're going to promote the big brands because that's what sells.
I dont take offense to it, SEC currently and almost every year in the past 5-10 years is the toughest. Won the most. Maybe you're bias. 90% of people will agree with me. Not saying Clemson, Ohio State, FSU and others havent been better in recent years because they all earned it on the field. Top to bottom the SEC is the toughest conference IMO.
Bama lost to LSU. They were ranked 2nd I believe at the time (top 5 for sure). Okie St lost to Iowa St and they were unranked and horrible.
Okie St won an 8 team conference too iirc and they didn't play in a conference championship game either.
Agree. I just disagree that Bama and the other SEC teams that you're referring to haven't earned it.
Bama has a relatively easy schedule this year. However, would you say that Ohio State, Clemson or Oklahoma have a tougher path to the playoffs? Add in their probable conference championship opponents if they make it. I don't think that there is any doubt that our relatively easy schedule is harder.
