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[Capt Ron 1]

Florida sheriff says man will 'absolutely not' face charges for defending home with 'AK-47-style' gun

A Florida homeowner in Escambia County will not face charges after he opened fire on three suspects who allegedly broke into his home before midnight on Thursday.

www.foxnews.com

In many of the gun control threads...I stated EVERYONE carries here...an MOST have nice AR's and/or AK type home defense weapons! LOL Just wish the guy would have been a better shot

 

[ghost_of_ukalum1988]

According to my research, 99.99999% of criminals prefer unarmed victims.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

According to my research, 99.99999% of criminals prefer unarmed victims.

This could have been a story about me, or ANY of my friends...however none of us would have missed...and my 150lb Rottie would have eaten them alive. Those are the only differences. Oh...I would not have dropped my gun, either

 

[gatordad3]

According to my research, 99.99999% of criminals prefer unarmed victims.

At least this wasn't a research kalimgoodman claimed. Hell, he would never have posted it either.

 

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[armbar73]

Florida sheriff says man will 'absolutely not' face charges for defending home with 'AK-47-style' gun

A Florida homeowner in Escambia County will not face charges after he opened fire on three suspects who allegedly broke into his home before midnight on Thursday.

www.foxnews.com

In many of the gun control threads...I stated EVERYONE carries here...an MOST have nice AR's and/or AK type home defense weapons! LOL Just wish the guy would have been a better shot

IMO, this is why a shotgun and a dog are better for home protection. You just need to be directionally correct. AR/AKs look cool and are fun to shoot, but a lot of people are not proficient enough to be accurate in that kind of situation.

Either way, good for him and the sheriff.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

Florida sheriff says man will 'absolutely not' face charges for defending home with 'AK-47-style' gun

A Florida homeowner in Escambia County will not face charges after he opened fire on three suspects who allegedly broke into his home before midnight on Thursday.

www.foxnews.com

In many of the gun control threads...I stated EVERYONE carries here...an MOST have nice AR's and/or AK type home defense weapons! LOL Just wish the guy would have been a better shot

No issue, at all, with individuals having individual fire arms in their homes to protect themselves.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

No issue, at all, with individuals having individual fire arms in their homes to protect themselves.

But the left want to take our firearms away from us. The problem is for them, it will NEVER, EVER happen. Not one gun

 

[instaGATOR]

IMO, this is why a shotgun and a dog are better for home protection. You just need to be directionally correct. AR/AKs look cool and are fun to shoot, but a lot of people are not proficient enough to be accurate in that kind of situation.

Either way, good for him and the sheriff.

My yard sign reads: Damn The Dog, Beware of Owner
While the right dog certainly has it's place in security, I'm not going to 'depend' on one for mine.
You display a vast ignorance about fire arms.

A stock hunters shotgun won't spread to hit the entire wall from across the room, unless you have one sawed off (illegal) to a 10" barrel. And with a 10" sawed off shotgun, you better be muscle-bound strong to control the blast/kick that it produces. The spread at 20' would still not cover the entire wall, but it would be good enough for your directionally correct claim. With a standard barrel shotgun and #1 buckshot, the spread won't be more than 3-4" so only very slightly better than a rifle or pistol.

And your average shotgun doesn't have a 10-20 round magazine to feed it, you have to stop to reload.
An inexpensive 12 gauge Mossberg pump shotgun with a short stock pistol grip is a decent gun for home protections, but it's not my first choice, and you'd damn well better practice with it and understand which ammo to use for each intended application.

What anyone needs for home defense is a firearm that they practice with and can control, well enough to hit a human sized target from 20 feet. I and my friends/associates can do that with any gun we own.

 

[armbar73]

My yard sign reads: Damn The Dog, Beware of Owner
While the right dog certainly has it's place in security, I'm not going to 'depend' on one for mine.
You display a vast ignorance about fire arms.

A stock hunters shotgun won't spread to hit the entire wall from across the room, unless you have one sawed off (illegal) to a 10" barrel. And with a 10" sawed off shotgun, you better be muscle-bound strong to control the blast/kick that it produces. The spread at 20' would still not cover the entire wall, but it would be good enough for your directionally correct claim. With a standard barrel shotgun and #1 buckshot, the spread won't be more than 3-4" so only very slightly better than a rifle or pistol.

And your average shotgun doesn't have a 10-20 round magazine to feed it, you have to stop to reload.
An inexpensive 12 gauge Mossberg pump shotgun with a short stock pistol grip is a decent gun for home protections, but it's not my first choice, and you'd damn well better practice with it and understand which ammo to use for each intended application.

What anyone needs for home defense is a firearm that they practice with and can control, well enough to hit a human sized target from 20 feet. I and my friends/associates can do that with any gun we own.

I didn’t say anything about the spread covering an entire wall. Why on earth would I want the 16 pellets in #1 buckshot spread across an entire wall? That‘s way too big of a spread. And the 3 inch spread is significantly better that the 1/4 in diameter of a 5.56 bullet. That’s like comparing a hockey puck to a dime.

A pump action shotgun is very reliable and relatively fast. It’s a great home defense option. And yes you are correct that proficiency is the key to whatever weapon you choose.

 

[instaGATOR]

"You just need to be directionally correct."

That's where you were wrong. Direction-ally correct is not good enough with any gun, and especially not in close combat.

Many believe that you don't need to be accurate with your aim with a shotgun, which is true only in Hollywood....

 

[armbar73]

"You just need to be directionally correct."

That's where you were wrong. Direction-ally correct is not good enough with any gun, and especially not in close combat.

Many believe that you don't need to be accurate with your aim with a shotgun, which is true only in Hollywood....

Ok. Maybe directional correct is a poor choice of words. But the chances of hitting someone are better with a shotgun than an AR, especially when someone is not very proficient. You don’t need to be quite as accurate.

The guy in article is the perfect example. First he drops is handgun, then hits one of the three intruders with a non lethal shot to the head. With a shotgun, he probably at least turns part of that guys head into hamburger.

 

[NavigatorII]

A pump action shotgun is very reliable and relatively fast. It’s a great home defense option. And yes you are correct that proficiency is the key to whatever weapon you choose.

The hell with a pump shotgun. I prefer a short barreled semi-automatic with the plug removed. I agree with your assessment, even if you miss small the invader is going to crap his pants and run.

 

[BamaFan1137]

with the plug removed.

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[NavigatorII]

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Criminals are not a protected species . (at least not in Florida). Can't say the same for CA and NY.

 

[armbar73]

Criminals are not a protected species . (at least not in Florida). Can't say the same for CA and NY.

Nor should they be. The minute someone breaches your home, you should be able to defend yourself by any means you see fit.

 

[greyghost14]

The hell with a pump shotgun. I prefer a short barreled semi-automatic with the plug removed. I agree with your assessment, even if you miss small the invader is going to crap his pants and run.

 

[instaGATOR]

If you break into my house, I'm not going to scare you with any gun, I'm gonna double tap center mass you with a .45 ACP. --- "Aim small, miss small...."

And a shotgun only needs a plug for hunting, and even then not always, depending on the animal being hunted and which state you're in.

If I just wanted to scare someone that's unarmed off my property, then I might use the 12 Gauge with the 'Flash-Bang' rounds to get them moving...