Final record doesn't tell the whole story though. FSU played Maryland with a healthy Stefon Diggs and CJ Brown. There's a reason why they were top 25 when they played FSU. Miami was #7 until they got banged up and their season went to crap. By your logic, this year's Bama team doesn't deserve credit for beating FSU with a healthy Francois because they went 7-6. The Maryland, Clemson, and Miami teams that '13 FSU faced were far different from where those teams ended up.
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Final record doesn't tell the whole story though. FSU played Maryland with a healthy Stefon Diggs and CJ Brown. There's a reason why they were top 25 when they played FSU. Miami was #7 until they got banged up and their season went to crap. By your logic, this year's Bama team doesn't deserve credit for beating FSU with a healthy Francois because they went 7-6. The Maryland, Clemson, and Miami teams that '13 FSU faced were far different from where those teams ended up.
Look at Maryland's schedule before FSU, likewise with Miami. You attributing them sucking solely to injuries is disingenous. They were never as good as their record.
Plus the easy part of most schedules occur early in the season. That is why the guy's "logic" is anything but.
Yep. Even in years when we've gone 4-8 or 4-7 we started out 3-1. Why? Cupcake part of the schedule. Using his logic we weren't really bad because we had a good record at one point.
You can say that, but it doesn't make it true. Maryland lost their starting QB, two 5* WRs, and their best CB. They were a shell of themselves over the 2nd half of the season. Duke Johnson suffered a season ending ankle injury in the 2nd half of the FSU game; a week after Phillip Dorsett tore his MCL. Two best offensive players by a mile. The assertion that they only had good records because they were playing bad teams doesn't explain their monumental dip in performance against bad teams late in the year.
Record vs. unranked opponents pre-FSU: 10-0
Record vs. unranked opponents post FSU: 7-8
That's a hell of a coincidence.
Dual threat QB for Maryland's 2013 team. Got knocked out of the game vs. FSU, missed some time and was never the same. Didn't help that Deon Long and Stefon Diggs suffered season ending injuries.
Miami's schedule pre-FSU:
FAU: 6-6
UF: 4-8
Savannah St.1-11
USF: 2-10
GT: 7-6
UNC: 7-6
Wake Forest: 4-8
All terrible teams. And I see you conveniently left out that while fully healthy they beat bad UNC and Wake teams by a COMBINED 7 points. They were struggling with bad teams well before injuries. Hell they beat 4-8 UF by 5 despite winning the turnover battle by like 4. You're trying too hard to ignore the obvious.
FAU: 6-6
UF: 4-8
Savannah St.1-11
USF: 2-10
GT: 7-6
UNC: 7-6
Wake Forest: 4-8
All terrible teams. And I see you conveniently left out that while fully healthy they beat bad UNC and Wake teams by a COMBINED 7 points. They were struggling with bad teams well before injuries. Hell they beat 4-8 UF by 5 despite winning the turnover battle by like 4. You're trying too hard to ignore the obvious.
I think that was the year before (2012). They also had bad luck in 2017 with QB's. They're cursed.
UF was healthy and ranked #12 at the time. GT,UNC were not much weaker than VT,Duke. GT actually blew Duke out that year.
You lost to Ole Miss who was worse than half of that schedule. I said the 08 gator team is top 5 in talent. This is my biggest problem with "sec" fans. You act like the sec is leaps and bounds better and that you were playing nfl teams all yr while fsu's team played fcs teams lmao The sec was the best conference but it has never been the best conference by a wide margin, ever. No conference has. The 08 gator team is a top 5 talent team ALL TIME but they cant be the most dominate when they lose to a crap team. Ole Miss was garbage that yr and you lost at home to them. That is not the most dominant team. Its a dominant team and i dont think anyone can argue that, but MOST domainant. I wouldnt put them in my top 8 because of the loss.
Look at the guys list and tell me he knows what he is talking about. For god sakes he had Peyton Manning over Tom brady.
Im not a gtor hater at all, you know that. I think a matchup between ur 08 team and ojr 13 team would be the most epic thing on the planet and i have no idea who would win. Im going strictly by a definition. A power 5 team, who plays a power 5 schedule, cant lose a game and claim MOST DOMINANT. They can claim dominant, but not most dominant
Ole miss was terrible but fsu not losing to those bad teams too makes them a notch better. The point won't get through that he's trying to make clearly
It doesn't take an sec fan to see that for one, ole miss wasn't a bad team in any way other than their staff.
It doesn't take an sec fan to see that for one, ole miss wasn't a bad team in any way other than their staff.
You're projecting. I'm not 'acting' like anything and I said it had nothing to do with being in the SEC and gave you an example of a UF schedule I considered weak. Y'all are doing all this tap dancing to avoid calling a spade a spade. Lemme guess the computers who put together strength of schedule had it out for FSU too huh? And lmao@ Ole Miss being worse than half the teams on that schedule. When you can't even admit a schedule that has 9 teams on it with 6 or more losses on it is bad you might as well bow out of the conversation because you've lost all objectivity.
These type of debates in sports are impossible because it's all opinion, but I tend to agree. It's hard to say that a team with a loss is the "most dominant" when there are numerous undefeated teams during that same span. 2009 Bama, 2001 Miami, 2004 USC, and 2013 FSU were all awesome. 2000 Oklahoma is a team that doesn't get nearly the respect they deserve. That team was wayyyyyy better than people remember.
I wouldnt say Wake Forest was great in 2008 and they beat Ole Miss. WF was avg at best that year
Ahhh, they finished 8-5. I must have been thinking of 2006 when they went to the ACCCG.
everyone sure thought Texas Tech was legit that year after beating Texas and Colt Mccoy, and a top team going into the Cotton Bowl, and before the OU game they were ready to play in the NC game.
I had to look up the 2008 gator team. I didn't follow college football much back then since it was so long ago and it feels like it's one of those teams from the 90's that you read about for FSU. Shame they had problems with a team like ole miss, it'll be tough to live that down and will dog them forever. That probably has more to do with Meyer than anything if I had to guess. He's no Nick Saban. Definitely think if Florida didn't have Meyer as a head coach they'd be in the convo for greatest of all time. Shame.
It's really crazy how little recognition 2000 OU gets when talking about the BCS era. I went and pulled up their schedule and they blew out Texas who finished #12 in the AP poll, beat Kansas State twice who went 11-3 and finished #8, beat #1 Nebraska by 17, and essentially pitched a shutout against FSU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Oklahoma_Sooners_football_team
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Oklahoma_Sooners_football_team
certiainly ain't no saban, he only beat saban that year by double digits and without his best player ever in Harvin sittin out the game. The last double digit loss he's had other than to the other goat Steve two years later and took all the way until Auburn just a few months ago to see another one. I'd take both those coaches on game day with equal to talent over Saban, then get called crazy for it because. humans
I’m sure working for ESPN has nothing to do with their ranking. That list is awful. LA Sparks at #7?
FSU has a better roster with the better pro QB, RB, DL and Secondary.
Both schools will say their team was better. The only thing is we didn’t lose to a 9-4 team at home.
FSU has a better roster with the better pro QB, RB, DL and Secondary.
Both schools will say their team was better. The only thing is we didn’t lose to a 9-4 team at home.
You're right, you didn't lose to a 9-4 team at home, because you only had two teams on your entire schedule that year go 9-4 or better (Miami and Clemson) during the regular season, lol. All told, four teams out of 14 went 9-4 or better on FSUs schedule, and one of those teams was an FCS team so they don't even count. FSU's schedule was hot garbage that season.
Its really amazing to watch Noles throw up all over themselves to avoid a fact. Its not like its just a bunch of biased UF fans calling your schedule weak...it was the the worst SOS for a championship game participant entering the game in the BCS era. For the millionth time it doesn't take away from the talent level of that team, they were great. IIRC every starter was drafted or something crazy like that so clearly they could hang with any great all time team. But their schedule was weak and that y'all can't even admit that fact just shows you're not objective.
Because you played so many teams of that caliber? Yea bro you could have never lost to a decent 9 win team, its not even in the realm of possibilities. You only trailed a mediocre Auburn team by 3 scores in your title game at one point. The same Auburn team you all told us you would beat by 30 because they were really a 3 or 4-loss team and lucky to even be there. Remember all that confidence? I do.
Hmmm... isn’t it true that there is nothing to coaching NCAA basketball and it’s just easier to pay the best players to come to your school? It’s a sensitive topic but it’s also an ongoing FBI investigation of the NCAA framework...
I agree that 2008 football wasn't even the most dominant Gator team of the last 20 years. 2007 basketball was. They lost some games in the regular season, which are basically meaningless in ncaa hoops, and then torched pretty much everybody in the SECT and NCAAT.
The Gators didn't need to be told this. They've known it for years:
Hmmm, what is this trying to say? UF's oline is the most physically dominate unit on the field or that UF plays a game where the Oline for the sport in general is supposed to be the most physically dominant on the field?
Then why did you start it? At least you are trying to gracefully back away for your silliness. That sets you apart from Bucanole.
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