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Iowa Caucus!

DeSantis needs to park his butt back in Tally. We can agree on that. He needs to fix the homeowners insurance problem and then finish off Iger and send the Perverted Mouse packing. Not pointed at you, but I watched some national MSM programs today predicting Haley would win the nomination. ALL MY LOLS!!!!! 😂😂😂

He is done as far as the big GOPe donors but he may hang around for SC while playing down NH to officially end it unless they step in. The crooked big donor problem is him dropping out doesn't get all those votes to Haley as half are people that dislike her as much as Trump.
 
And you're defending again. You never changed lol.

I literally didn't tag you about accusing her of cheating. I was having that conversation with fever and you jumped in. I was talking to you about giving rides to the polls.
I'm not defending anything, I'm asking you to point out where I accused her of cheating. Which you can't do. Trolls create a false premise then try to get you to argue that premise, with the goal of avoiding the key point(s).

1) I never whined
2) I never said, insinuated or accused her of cheating
3) If she's appealing to the dems, that means she's dem....she's running as a Republican. Nothing repulses a Conservative more than a liberal in sheep's clothing.
 
I'm not defending anything, I'm asking you to point out where I accused her of cheating. Which you can't do. Trolls create a false premise then try to get you to argue that premise, with the goal of avoiding the key point(s).

1) I never whined
2) I never said, insinuated or accused her of cheating
3) If she's appealing to the dems, that means she's dem....she's running as a Republican. Nothing repulses a Conservative more than a liberal in sheep's clothing.
Oh God. I can't 😂. I seriously don't think that you even read what i write. You respond to what you want to, not what I wrote.

Take care.
 

"President Trump’s 30-point victory is the largest in the history of the Iowa caucuses."
He only got 51% in a republican caucus as basically the incumbent. He definitely isn't overwhelmingly loved by Republicans.
 
He only got 51% in a republican caucus as basically the incumbent. He definitely isn't overwhelmingly loved by Republicans.
He had the largest margin of victory in the history of the Iowa caucus.

In 2016 he won the state by 10% during the election and didn't win the caucus. But republicans like him less now?


Does it hurt? I mean, just being confused all day, do you get headaches and stuff?
 
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He only got 51% in a republican caucus as basically the incumbent. He definitely isn't overwhelmingly loved by Republicans.
Love ya man, but bad take. He is loved by Republicans.
He had the largest margin of victory in the history of the Iowa caucus.

In 2016 he won the state by 10% during the election and didn't win the caucus. But republicans like him less now?


Does it hurt? I mean, just being confused all day, do you get headaches and stuff?
Yes - Trump, whether you love him or not, did a great job last night.
 
Love ya man, but bad take. He is loved by Republicans.

Yes - Trump, whether you love him or not, did a great job last night.
He's either:
1) Trolling (there's a reason this is the first "possibility" listed)
2) Historically ignorant (not mutually exclusive from #1, mind you)
3) Just not very smart at all...historically getting 30% in this caucus is a good result, Trump WON by that margin.

Turnout was down, it was cold as hell last night - and most people probably felt there was no reason to participate based on the polling. But even with Dem support Haley got 3rd, DeSantis spent millions and only outperformed polling by a point or two, and Vivek did so poorly he bailed. Trump, even with all of the polling wind in his sails, outperformed and turned people out on a really rough night to be outside.

But "republicans don't love him" 😆

All in the candidates spent over $1100 per vote. This was obviously important to all of their campaigns...
 
Love ya man, but bad take. He is loved by Republicans.

Yes - Trump, whether you love him or not, did a great job last night.
You think an incumbent getting 51% in his own party is impressive? I get it's the biggest victory but he is a former republican president. That would mean that ~49% of Republicans don't even want him as president in Iowa! NH will be diluted with democrats and independents but Iowa? Not impressive.
 
You think an incumbent getting 51% in his own party is impressive? I get it's the biggest victory but he is a former republican president. That would mean that ~49% of Republicans don't even want him as president in Iowa! NH will be diluted with democrats and independents but Iowa? Not impressive.

Its pretty good considering the entire media and GOPe plotted against him with a Trojan horse candidate. Its funny seeing the media switching to the standard Never-Trumper candidate now that the Trojan horse and like 120 million in Iowa resulted in a big flop.
 
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You think an incumbent getting 51% in his own party is impressive? I get it's the biggest victory but he is a former republican president. That would mean that ~49% of Republicans don't even want him as president in Iowa! NH will be diluted with democrats and independents but Iowa? Not impressive.

Well, let’s start with facts. He isn’t an incumbent. He literally set records last night. Margin of victory, 98 of 99 counties etc. It was a blowout.
 
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...and even as Sonny Hostin said on the view, he lost the 99th county buy only one view.

It was a pure blowout, but yes, he is a semi-incumbent.

Meh. An incumbent is defined someone currently in office running for another term. What he did last night is more impressive. Impeached, fraudulently removed from office, indicted multiple times, and constant media propaganda against him trying to destroy him.

When have YOU personally seen a one term president come back after out of office and dominate like that? So no, it’s not the same or even close to the same as incumbent. Popularity after office usually is at a point they would be unelectable.

Hell, I will allow Senators, Governors, whatever example you got.
 
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Its pretty good considering the entire media and GOPe plotted against him with a Trojan horse candidate. Its funny seeing the media switching to the standard Never-Trumper candidate now that the Trojan horse and like 120 million in Iowa resulted in a big flop.
The GOP is ran by Rhonda McDaniel and she is literally pro Trump. So I don't even get that lie. Nobody plotted against him.
 
...and even as Sonny Hostin said on the view, he lost the 99th county buy only one view.

It was a pure blowout, but yes, he is a semi-incumbent.
He was the incumbent, this would be his 3rd time on the Republican ticket. He literally go by President Trump, lol.

In 2020 he got 97% and now he's at 51%. I don't dispute it was a blowout. I just think considering who it was, it wasn't impressive.
 
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You think an incumbent getting 51% in his own party is impressive? I get it's the biggest victory but he is a former republican president. That would mean that ~49% of Republicans don't even want him as president in Iowa! NH will be diluted with democrats and independents but Iowa? Not impressive.
The confidence you display in your ignorance is a sight to behold.

Trump beat the next closest highest historical total in the Iowa caucus by 10% and had the largest margin of victory in the history of the event.

Tell me then, oh great political historian, what would have impressed you? How many more records would you like to have seen last night?
 
You are clueless the huge money donors were all in on DeSantis and are switching to Haley but many are saying Trump can't be stopped now. Basically flushing their uni-party money down the drain.
Just because they support Haley and think she would be better, isn't plotting against him. It is getting behind a candidate. You're basically saying, support Trump or its a plot against him. Makes no sense. It's called the voting process.
 
He was the incumbent, this would be his 3rd time on the Republican ticket. He literally go by President Trump, lol.

In 2020 he got 97% and now he's at 51%. I don't dispute it was a blowout. I just think considering who it was, it wasn't impressive.

Nope. Not an incumbent. Joe currently sits at far less support AS an ACTUAL incumbent.


Within their respective parties

Trump 72 percent approve
Joe 57 percent approve AS AN ACTUAL incumbent.

And that’s a poll by leftist Disney owned ABC. Wait until you find out the real numbers.

Closer to 80 (Trump)
20 (Biden)

With an overall approval rating of…..31 percent.


Maybe someone is taking 2 pills for every 1 pill they count.
 
The confidence you display in your ignorance is a sight to behold.

Trump beat the next closest highest historical total in the Iowa caucus by 10% and had the largest margin of victory in the history of the event.

Tell me then, oh great political historian, what would have impressed you? How many more records would you like to have seen last night?


He is busy shorting people on their meds.
 
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Nope. Not an incumbent. Joe currently sits at far less support AS an ACTUAL incumbent.


Within their respective parties

Trump 72 percent approve
Joe 57 percent approve AS AN ACTUAL incumbent.

And that’s a poll by leftist Disney owned ABC. Wait until you find out the real numbers.

Closer to 80 (Trump)
20 (Biden)

With an overall approval rating of…..31 percent.


Maybe someone is taking 2 pills for every 1 pill they count.
I'm not talking polls. I'm talking actual votes.
 
You are clueless the huge money donors were all in on DeSantis and are switching to Haley but many are saying Trump can't be stopped now. Basically flushing their uni-party money down the drain.

Well, I mean…he doesn’t even know how to spell Ronna Romney Mcdaniel, Or that she is head of the RNC, and not the GOP. So there’s that.
 
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And again. He isn’t an incumbent. And…you are talking about support as your overarching point. Trump, an indicted former president, has more support than Pedo Joe.
We don't know what Biden has. His primary didn't start yet.

Just judging actual votes, ~49% of Republicans caucus goers don't even want their former great president to be the candidate. 😬
 
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And again. He isn’t an incumbent. And…you are talking about support as your overarching point. Trump, an indicted former president, has more support than Pedo Joe.
Kalim - a few of these things can be true at once:

1. Trump did have a historic win
2. He is a "near incumbent" as the former president that many thought won (or at least should have won) in 2020
3. Biden has historically low approval
4. Some are voting for Nikki (e.g. my wife) and that vote is no "conspiracy" against Trump
5. There are some (many) centrists who will never, right, wrong, or otherwise, vote for Trump. Most of them are college educated women, whose economic interests fall to Trump. With that said, they see the move to socialism.
 
We don't know what Biden has. His primary didn't start yet.

Just judging actual votes, ~49% of Republicans caucus goers don't even want their former great president to be the candidate. 😬
Not necessarily true. Some (many) of the 49% were also sending a message to Trump that they want something different in his approach. Some though, to your point are "never trumpers".
 
Here are the ACTUAL FACTS.

Trump set all time records in Iowa AS A NON incumbent. A historical victory unmatched in Iowa. Biden has reached HISTORIC levels of disapproval.


Sorry, but those are the FACTS. Anything else is just an attempt at spin.

The reason Iowa isn’t having their regularly scheduled caucus for dems is because the left is doing what they do. Attempting to manipulate an election instead of having a free and fair election. It’s who they are. Authoritarians

That said, Diddy is off as well. Never Trumpers aren’t really on the right. See Lincoln Project. Moderates aren’t on the right either. See Mitt, Cheney, and Adam
 
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We don't know what Biden has. His primary didn't start yet.

Just judging actual votes, ~49% of Republicans caucus goers don't even want their former great president to be the candidate. 😬
The Dems won’t let anyone with name recognition Primary Biden.

I wonder why?
 
Not necessarily true. Some (many) of the 49% were also sending a message to Trump that they want something different in his approach. Some though, to your point are "never trumpers".
I definitely respect your opinion on this. I gave my opinion and there really isn't much to it. On to NH.
 
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