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2021-22 Basketball Primer

Mike White has many failures but his biggest one is recruiting. Our roster sucks. Castleton’s the only one who should be starting on a good SEC team. He gets them to play hard, but they’re just not good enough.
 
This is a very low IQ team. There is no real chemistry and they just take turns doing stupid stuff. Niels Lane has been the ONLY player in this game to play well. And the ultimate blame has to fall on the head coach. He's the one who brought these players together and failed to mold them into a smart, consistent team. The potential is there, as the beat Auburn and really outplayed them the whole game. But way too often they play like they have today. Really pathetic.
 
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Mike White has many failures but his biggest one is recruiting. Our roster sucks. Castleton’s the only one who should be starting on a good SEC team. He gets them to play hard, but they’re just not good enough.
I have to disagree with you bradgator. He’s had McDonald’s AA and lots of high 4 star and some 5 star players. Many other teams do more with far less. Granted this team is a hodgepodge of transfers but up until this year he’s had talent.
 
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Going to overtime!

If we have to suffer another season with Mike White, at least beat A&M today.
 
Should've never come down to this. Poor decision making and the failure to pressure the ball on the last possession...
 
While we are watching March Madness maybe Insta can regale us with the years of yore when we made the tourny lots of times. Sure, it was years of getting bounced without even getting into the sweet sixteen, but darnnit all...they were consistent.

We will get back there one day.
 
Thinking of the entire 7 years combined.....1 good season and a bunch of lackluster seasons....it makes me think of a parallel.

Its like the UF basketball program is similar to the USC gamecock football program in the SEC.
 
Updating Insta’s reasons Mike White hung the MOON!!! (Some items may not be valid now)

Mike's had zero losing seasons at UF

He made a Tourney every year

He’s never gone 1 & done in a Tourney
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He's won CoY in 3 different conferences. (MWC/C-USA/SEC-E8)

No previous Gator B-Ball coach has played tougher SoS's than Mike White has every year at UF.

Mike has only lost a total of 5 7 games when leading with 5 minutes to go in the game.

White earned his 100th win as UF’s head coach, becoming the 5th Florida coach to reach that milestone. He reached the mark in 158 games, the second-fastest to reach 100 (Billy Donovan, 154).


UF also placed 7 players on the SEC Academic Honor Roll, tied for the 2nd-most in UF history.


Florida is the only SEC team with a winning conference record the seasons under White
 
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Things that make me say wtf???

Appleby Sr - 0-4
Jones Sr - 1-6, 0-4 3's
McKissic - 2-7, 0-3 3's
Duruji Sr - 1-5, 0-2 3's
Fleming Sr - 5-11, 1-4 3's
' After great play earlier, they go out the door on a last 2 games whimper.'
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Reeves Fr - 6-11, 3-7 3's - 21 pts
Lane So - 6-8, 1-1 3's - 16 Pts, 9 Rbs

Team 3's = 5-24 (20.8%), beginning with 1-15, then finishing 4-9
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IF,,, if they want to fire Mike....
They can send him on an 8.75 Million dollar buy-out vacation.
Then they can try to hire someone else to replace him that's better.
(I wouldn't cry, and neither would Mike I'm betting)
 
I have to disagree with you bradgator. He’s had McDonald’s AA and lots of high 4 star and some 5 star players. Many other teams do more with far less. Granted this team is a hodgepodge of transfers but up until this year he’s had talent.
I will bet you $20, payable by Venmo, you can’t name an SEC school in the last 6 years with more conference wins, tournament appearances or tournament wins, that has recruited worse than Mike White.
 
Things that make me say wtf???

Appleby Sr - 0-4
Jones Sr - 1-6, 0-4 3's
McKissic - 2-7, 0-3 3's
Duruji Sr - 1-5, 0-2 3's
Fleming Sr - 5-11, 1-4 3's
' After great play earlier, they go out the door on a last 2 games whimper.'
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Reeves Fr - 6-11, 3-7 3's - 21 pts
Lane So - 6-8, 1-1 3's - 16 Pts, 9 Rbs

Team 3's = 5-24 (20.8%), beginning with 1-15, then finishing 4-9
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IF,,, if they want to fire Mike....
They can send him on an 8.75 Million dollar buy-out vacation.
Then they can try to hire someone else to replace him that's better.
(I wouldn't cry, and neither would Mike I'm betting)


I dont know how many times this has to get explained to you before it sinks in.....but bad percentile shoting is related to bad shot selection, bad play calling, bad preparation, etc....

That is the coach's job to correct and improve. Wait,....gosh...I think Im on to something.....Do you suppose that the opposing coaches have more effect on their teams? Nah, that must be crazy talk.
 
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I dont know how many times this has to get explained to you before it sinks in.....but bad percentile shoting is related to bad shot selection, bad play calling, bad preparation, etc....

Which is the coach's job to correct and improve.

Its like responding to a broken record.
Bad players. Not one shooter on the roster, except maybe Reeves.
 
I don't know how many times I have to say this either.... 🙄

FIRE MIKE WHITE, because he certainly doesn't deserve to be the coach any longer at Socialist-U,,, and the entitled fans don't deserve a coach like him either....
🤓
 
For those that thought I was being an ass for calling UF Socialist-U,,, there's this:

Say it ain’t so Florida Gators. RedState reports that there is a Study Room on UF campus now named for Karl Marx???

I cannot imagine Alumni donors will allow this nonsense to continue
- amirite??
 
I don't know how many times I have to say this either.... 🙄

FIRE MIKE WHITE, and the entitled fans don't deserve a coach like him either....
🤓


Youre right. Uf doesnt deserve him. I will agree with you on that.....just not the way you mean it. Lol
 
Mike White has many failures but his biggest one is recruiting.
Mike's many failures include:
2 NIT (if that's where they go this year)
4 NCAA, qualified for a 5th that got Co-V cancelled.
An Elite-8
Never a 1 & Done in any tourney.
Never a losing season.
Grad rate and Academic success for his players.
No police blotter BS,,, druggies or gamblers etc....

Mike White Recruits:

2022
#4 PF Malik Reneau *****

#16 PF Jalen Reed ****
#27 CG Denzel Aberdeen ***
A few of the 3-stars 19 offers: MS-GaT-Cin-ILL-Iona-Minn-TxT-VCU-VaT

2021
#10 SG Kowacie Reeves ****
#42 SG Elijah Kennedy ***
NR PF Tuongthach Gatkek (better than most here thought)

2020
#8 SF Samson Ruzhentsev ****
#24 SG Niels Lane ***
#1 Juco PF Osayi Osifo ***

2019
#1 SF Scottie Lewis *****
#2 PG Tre Mann *****

#11 C Omar Payne ****
#52 C Jason Jitboh ***
#58 PG Ques Glover ***

His last 4 classes combined - 5 3-stars - 4 4-stars - 3 5-stars
Keeping in mind that UF ain't Cal-Cheats kensucky....

2018
#6 PG Andrew Nembhard *****

#16 SF Keyontae Johnson ****
#15 SG Noah Locke ****

2017
#18 PF Chase Johnson ****
#23 SF DeAundrae Ballard ****
#29 PF Isaiah Stokes ****
#54 PG Mike Okauru ***

2016
#22 SG Eric Hester ***
#29 C Gorjok Gak ***
#70 PF Dontay Bassett ***
His first full class as UF coach when few recruits knew of him.

2015 - 1st year
#13 C Kevarrius Hayes ****
#16 SF Keith Stone ****
#19 SG KeVaughn Allen ****
Mike re-recruited those first 3
#2 SF Justin Leon *** - ULL xfer came with Mike

11 3-stars -- 12 4-stars - 4 5-stars

I didn't include any of the many excellent xfers that Mike has also brought in.

2014 - BillyD's last class
#4 SF Devin Robinson *****
#11 SG Brandon Francis ****
#9 PG Chris Chiozza ****
NR SG Zach Hodskins

Note: BillyD's 2 NC's were won by the 2004's
#4 SF Corey Brewer *****
#7 PF Al Horford ****
#17 PF Joakim Noah ****
#19 PG Taurean Green ****
#102 SF Jack Berry **
Along with 2003 -
#11 PF Chris Richard ****
#22 SG Lee Humphrey ***

And BillyD never had to cope with Socialist-U, Co-V, snake-bit injuries, especially to his bigs, or the best the SEC has ever been, top to bottom in B-Ball


And again, with all of that said,,,, FIRE MIKE WHITE TODAY!!!
 
Mike's many failures include:
2 NIT (if that's where they go this year)
4 NCAA, qualified for a 5th that got Co-V cancelled.
An Elite-8
Never a 1 & Done in any tourney.
Never a losing season.
Grad rate and Academic success for his players.
No police blotter BS,,, druggies or gamblers etc....

Mike White Recruits:

2022
#4 PF Malik Reneau *****

#16 PF Jalen Reed ****
#27 CG Denzel Aberdeen ***
A few of the 3-stars 19 offers: MS-GaT-Cin-ILL-Iona-Minn-TxT-VCU-VaT

2021
#10 SG Kowacie Reeves ****
#42 SG Elijah Kennedy ***
NR PF Tuongthach Gatkek (better than most here thought)

2020
#8 SF Samson Ruzhentsev ****
#24 SG Niels Lane ***
#1 Juco PF Osayi Osifo ***

2019
#1 SF Scottie Lewis *****
#2 PG Tre Mann *****

#11 C Omar Payne ****
#52 C Jason Jitboh ***
#58 PG Ques Glover ***

His last 4 classes combined - 5 3-stars - 4 4-stars - 3 5-stars
Keeping in mind that UF ain't Cal-Cheats kensucky....

2018
#6 PG Andrew Nembhard *****

#16 SF Keyontae Johnson ****
#15 SG Noah Locke ****

2017
#18 PF Chase Johnson ****
#23 SF DeAundrae Ballard ****
#29 PF Isaiah Stokes ****
#54 PG Mike Okauru ***

2016
#22 SG Eric Hester ***
#29 C Gorjok Gak ***
#70 PF Dontay Bassett ***
His first full class as UF coach when few recruits knew of him.

2015 - 1st year
#13 C Kevarrius Hayes ****
#16 SF Keith Stone ****
#19 SG KeVaughn Allen ****
Mike re-recruited those first 3
#2 SF Justin Leon *** - ULL xfer came with Mike

11 3-stars -- 12 4-stars - 4 5-stars

I didn't include any of the many excellent xfers that Mike has also brought in.

2014 - BillyD's last class
#4 SF Devin Robinson *****
#11 SG Brandon Francis ****
#9 PG Chris Chiozza ****
NR SG Zach Hodskins

Note: BillyD's 2 NC's were won by the 2004's
#4 SF Corey Brewer *****
#7 PF Al Horford ****
#17 PF Joakim Noah ****
#19 PG Taurean Green ****
#102 SF Jack Berry **
Along with 2003 -
#11 PF Chris Richard ****
#22 SG Lee Humphrey ***

And BillyD never had to cope with Socialist-U, Co-V, snake-bit injuries, especially to his bigs, or the best the SEC has ever been, top to bottom in B-Ball

And again, with all of that said,,,, FIRE MIKE WHITE TODAY!!!
LOL! You crack me up....Good news for you is White won't be fired. He will get another season, And like 6 of his 7 seasons next year will be double digit losses and bubble time.
 
Mike's many failures include:
2 NIT (if that's where they go this year)
4 NCAA, qualified for a 5th that got Co-V cancelled.
An Elite-8
Never a 1 & Done in any tourney.
Never a losing season.
Grad rate and Academic success for his players.
No police blotter BS,,, druggies or gamblers etc....

Mike White Recruits:

2022
#4 PF Malik Reneau *****

#16 PF Jalen Reed ****
#27 CG Denzel Aberdeen ***
A few of the 3-stars 19 offers: MS-GaT-Cin-ILL-Iona-Minn-TxT-VCU-VaT

2021
#10 SG Kowacie Reeves ****
#42 SG Elijah Kennedy ***
NR PF Tuongthach Gatkek (better than most here thought)

2020
#8 SF Samson Ruzhentsev ****
#24 SG Niels Lane ***
#1 Juco PF Osayi Osifo ***

2019
#1 SF Scottie Lewis *****
#2 PG Tre Mann *****

#11 C Omar Payne ****
#52 C Jason Jitboh ***
#58 PG Ques Glover ***

His last 4 classes combined - 5 3-stars - 4 4-stars - 3 5-stars
Keeping in mind that UF ain't Cal-Cheats kensucky....

2018
#6 PG Andrew Nembhard *****

#16 SF Keyontae Johnson ****
#15 SG Noah Locke ****

2017
#18 PF Chase Johnson ****
#23 SF DeAundrae Ballard ****
#29 PF Isaiah Stokes ****
#54 PG Mike Okauru ***

2016
#22 SG Eric Hester ***
#29 C Gorjok Gak ***
#70 PF Dontay Bassett ***
His first full class as UF coach when few recruits knew of him.

2015 - 1st year
#13 C Kevarrius Hayes ****
#16 SF Keith Stone ****
#19 SG KeVaughn Allen ****
Mike re-recruited those first 3
#2 SF Justin Leon *** - ULL xfer came with Mike

11 3-stars -- 12 4-stars - 4 5-stars

I didn't include any of the many excellent xfers that Mike has also brought in.

2014 - BillyD's last class
#4 SF Devin Robinson *****
#11 SG Brandon Francis ****
#9 PG Chris Chiozza ****
NR SG Zach Hodskins

Note: BillyD's 2 NC's were won by the 2004's
#4 SF Corey Brewer *****
#7 PF Al Horford ****
#17 PF Joakim Noah ****
#19 PG Taurean Green ****
#102 SF Jack Berry **
Along with 2003 -
#11 PF Chris Richard ****
#22 SG Lee Humphrey ***

And BillyD never had to cope with Socialist-U, Co-V, snake-bit injuries, especially to his bigs, or the best the SEC has ever been, top to bottom in B-Ball

And again, with all of that said,,,, FIRE MIKE WHITE TODAY!!!
Why did you list all the recruits Mike White signed? Look at the list. It is embarrassing. How many of those guys ever developed or finished their college career at UF? They all either were misevaluated, we’re never developed or transferred out. Very few ever amounted to anything. Nobody from his 2016, 2017 or 2018 class ever even finished at UF besides KJ. It wasn’t until his 2019 class that a player actually did something (Mann - NBA). There is already only 1 guy left from his 2020 class. It isn’t a pretty picture.
 
sadgator’s not sure why, but he still thinks White is a good coach. That roster was absolutely decimated after last year, and patched together this year, and yet somehow, they were a competitive hard working bunch.

You have to understand your place in the universe…Florida basketball had its glory days…we saw it…we lived it…it will never be like that again…sometime good enough is good enough…kinda where sadgator is at…
 
sadgator’s not sure why, but he still thinks White is a good coach. That roster was absolutely decimated after last year, and patched together this year, and yet somehow, they were a competitive hard working bunch.

You have to understand your place in the universe…Florida basketball had its glory days…we saw it…we lived it…it will never be like that again…sometime good enough is good enough…kinda where sadgator is at…
Respect your opinion, but disagree with everything you said. :)
 
sadgator’s not sure why, but he still thinks White is a good coach. That roster was absolutely decimated after last year, and patched together this year, and yet somehow, they were a competitive hard working bunch.

You have to understand your place in the universe…Florida basketball had its glory days…we saw it…we lived it…it will never be like that again…sometime good enough is good enough…kinda where sadgator is at…
Most of us see that you speak for yourself.

Florida simply has too much tradition, too much administrative support and too good a natural recruiting base to not compete for SEC championships. Scott Stricklin doesn’t have a hoops background, but he can see the banners in Exactech Arena, as well as the increasing number of empty seats at home games. Apathy is a dangerous thing, and Florida must play better on the court in 2022-23.


The Gators have been a bubble team in 3 of White’s 7 years, ending on the wrong side of the bubble twice. Florida hasn’t truly competed for an SEC championship since his third season, when the Gators finished 3rd in the league and led the SEC and the country in Quad 1 wins.

That means the program with the 2nd-most SEC titles over the past 30 years hasn’t competed to win 1 in the past 4 seasons. Florida simply has too much tradition, too much administrative support and too good a natural recruiting base to not compete for SEC championships. Scott Stricklin doesn’t have a hoops background, but he can see the banners in Exactech Arena, as well as the increasing number of empty seats at home games. Apathy is a dangerous thing, and Florida must play better on the court in 2022-23.

There are whispers, however, that White may be looking to make a graceful exit. Shaka Smart did this at Texas last offseason, jumping on a less high-profile, but still high-quality job, at Marquette. White may find a similar move, to say, a respected Big East program like Butler, equally appealing. Should the job open at his alma mater Ole Miss, perhaps there would be mutual interest.

As for Florida, they may view a departure by White as an opportunity for both sides to gain a fresh start. Should White show interest elsewhere, it’s distinctly possible the Gators may be willing to let him walk away.

In any event, Florida basketball needs an identity, whether White continues or doesn’t.
 
sadgator’s not sure why, but he still thinks White is a good coach. That roster was absolutely decimated after last year, and patched together this year, and yet somehow, they were a competitive hard working bunch.

You have to understand your place in the universe…Florida basketball had its glory days…we saw it…we lived it…it will never be like that again…sometime good enough is good enough…kinda where sadgator is at…
Everything you just said is wrong. You don’t follow it close enough if you think “the roster being patched together” had nothing to do with Whiites roster management. Guess what? We have 6 seniors. All former transfers. It is going to be “patched” together again next season. Sorry but you haven’t been paying attention obviously.
 
That is a very good read. Personally I do not think White gets fired. Now is he looking to move on, no clue on that. We will need to hit the portal hard as we lose 6 and will undoubtedly have a transfer or two of our own. With 3 incoming I'm guessing we need to add 4 transfers. I'm a huge Mike White fan, good guy and he runs a clean program, but the results have been average. 2 of his tourney bids were candidly quite lucky. We could be looking at a coach with just 2 tourney appearances in 7 seasons vs 4.
 
We should be thankful that Castleton decided
sadgator’s not sure why, but he still thinks White is a good coach. That roster was absolutely decimated after last year, and patched together this year, and yet somehow, they were a competitive hard working bunch.

You have to understand your place in the universe…Florida basketball had its glory days…we saw it…we lived it…it will never be like that again…sometime good enough is good enough…kinda where sadgator is at…




What is your definition of "glory days"? If its the Final Four(which even bluebloods hang banners), UF has had those days with completely different teams. Even MW had 1 win away from reaching that(an extreme oddity).

Two different time periods is the limit, huh? Untill the third time that happens and then thats the new limit...........

Would you have said the same thing about the football program in the early 2000's? That we should just be satisfied with having some glory in the 90's? That we should know our place in the universe as a program and continued to employ Zook?

Understanding your situation doesnt mean that you shouldnt demand more. Your "place" in the universal sports landscape is never permanant......unless youre bama. Lol 8P
 
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Last year they lost KJ.
This year they lost backup C Jitoboh who was finally coming on and getting playing time.
Others missed games injured at critical times.
Of course, those kinds of player losses don't mean a thing, just like dealing with Co-V didn't matter...
And as crappy as he recruits and coaches, isn't it amazing that he makes a post season tourney every year and has never had a losing season....

This was in the post game interview, before any in-depth review of the game.
 
Last year they lost KJ.
This year they lost backup C Jitoboh who was finally coming on and getting playing time.
Others missed games injured at critical times.
Of course, those kinds of player losses don't mean a thing, just like dealing with Co-V didn't matter...
And as crappy as he recruits and coaches, isn't it amazing that he makes a post season tourney every year and has never had a losing season....

This was in the post game interview, before any in-depth review of the game.


Its easy to make the tournament.....and to prove it.....nearly everyone knows that in recent years there were times that UF didnt deserve to be chosen, yet got in anyways. They sure played like it too.

Whether anybody likes it or not, its hard to deny a meritless "benefit of the doubt" factor that we have gotten at times.

If the good coaches are determined by only having a winning record(which was said earlier).....then theres far more legendary coaches right now than there are fireable coaches.
 
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