YAHOOOOO! We just got our 8 team Playoff!!!!!!!!!!
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It’s not nearly as bad as you think.
And I think it goes to 6 before it goes to 8, and I think 6 is where it logically should go.
Top 2 seeds get a BYE.
This is an anomaly year just like 2007. Just because this year there’s not huge separation amongst the top 8 teams does not mean that that is usually the case.
Moving to 8 would mean regularly getting at least one, if not 2 multiple loss teams. It means that teams in he top 4 can likely avoid elimination by losing late in the season because they hey would very likely remain in the top 8.
Why do we want an 8 team playoff? Your just going to have a bUnch of rematches
My suggestion in 1999 was this for the Playoff.
The Power 5 Conference Champs, plus the next 3 highest ranked teams, no matter where they were from in D-1 football.
This would allow an undefeated BSU or UCF to get in, and it would allow 2 teams from the same conference in, in a given year.
If they finally get it right after a couple of decades, then all is well,,,, finally.
The Power 5 Conference Champs, plus the next 3 highest ranked teams, no matter where they were from in D-1 football.
This would allow an undefeated BSU or UCF to get in, and it would allow 2 teams from the same conference in, in a given year.
If they finally get it right after a couple of decades, then all is well,,,, finally.
My suggestion in 1999 was this for the Playoff.
The Power 5 Conference Champs, plus the next 3 highest ranked teams, no matter where they were from in D-1 football.
This would allow an undefeated BSU or UCF to get in, and it would allow 2 teams from the same conference in, in a given year.
If they finally get it right after a couple of decades, then all is well,,,, finally.
My only problem with that is that not every year (honestly, not most years) do I think the champion of each power 5 conference is truly a top team.
I think it’s so backwards that after decades of trying to remove the human element from choosing a champion, we went to a plus one format and instead of using the BCS formula (which no one really had much of a problem with beyond the fact that only 2 teams got a chance) they full force went back to he human element to choose the top 4.
They have members on that committee that have to exempt themselves because of their own bias.
How is that a good system? Like Frank Beamer. His son is on the UGA staff. Has to exempt himself.
What if Spurrier were on the committee and Florida was vying to get a spot?
Ridiculous system.
Hey village idiot stalker, you can express your own opinions, without referencing my posts, while running down 2 different tracks of idiot logic.
My suggestion originated long before the other systems.
The 5 Power conference Champs is W/L record and removes all voters.
Then let the AP voters get their bit of input with the 3 other highest rated teams. And make the AP voters votes public. Let us see who voted, and who they voted for.
My suggestion originated long before the other systems.
The 5 Power conference Champs is W/L record and removes all voters.
Then let the AP voters get their bit of input with the 3 other highest rated teams. And make the AP voters votes public. Let us see who voted, and who they voted for.
Winner of each power 5 conferences and the next best 3... could be power 5 or not but there will always be 2-3 teams with 1 or less losses...and several that are all about the same. It's 1 more game. You will have some rematches but most won't be....PLUS there are always teams like Boise St (a few years ago) that will never get a shot if there are only 4 teams but are hot and can win. I think you will see a lot more parody with 8 and a team here or there, that was not likely, win it all.
I actually agree with Insta for once.My suggestion originated long before the other systems.
The 5 Power conference Champs is W/L record and removes all voters.
Then let the AP voters get their bit of input with the 3 other highest rated teams. And make the AP voters votes public. Let us see who voted, and who they voted for.
Are you this big of a liar, or are you just to FREAKIN' STUPID to even understand the idiot BS that you posted, and then call it agreeing with iG? You'd be much better off if you'd just sit down and then STFU.
I understand why the buckeyes aren't happy, but I can't blame the committee for taking a one-loss Bama, that lost to Auburn, over a two-loss team that lost to Iowa.
I agreed and then offered my own humble opinion of the problem I found with it.
Didn’t say it was a bad opinion, I just found issue with a small part of it.
In another three and I 100% agreed with you.
For someone hat constantly poses everything as your own humble opinion, you sure have issue with anyone that 90% agrees with you.
dunny-goater, history for me, doesn't begin with the raising of each new sun. You have a sorry history, and I long ago tired of your constant bs being thrown out at me. You will follow me from thread to thread with your constant crap, but now you're attempting to re-frame yourself as Mr. Reasonable. I'm not buying your new version of the same stinking crap, so try selling it elsewhere.
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
(at least none that are willing to stick around for long)
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
(at least none that are willing to stick around for long)
Guess I’ll be the bigger man then.
I’ll hold up my end of the deal even if you refuse to be civil
Yea it's not a bad idea - it makes being the Conference Champ actually mean something and if you just missed out you can still get in.
That would be the best outcome imo, but I was just referring to your constant stalking of me and my posts, as your lyin' little boy azz already knows. (whiny little bas.... too)
I would only slightly amend this proposal by allowing the highest ranked non P5 team in along with the 2 highest ranked non conference champs. If done that way this year 1st round match-ups would be: Clemson/UCF, Oklahoma/USC, Georgia/Wisconsin, Alabama/Ohio St. The 2nd round would be the UCF/Clemson winner vs. Bama/Buckeye winner; Oklahoma/USC winner vs. Georgia/Wisky winner. Pretty good group of games, IMO.My suggestion in 1999 was this for the Playoff.
The Power 5 Conference Champs, plus the next 3 highest ranked teams, no matter where they were from in D-1 football.
This would allow an undefeated BSU or UCF to get in, and it would allow 2 teams from the same conference in, in a given year.
If they finally get it right after a couple of decades, then all is well,,,, finally.
I'd be fine with that proviso. The Neutered Lame/Independents could also get in on the +3 format.
My one long standing alternative to the 128 team D1 fiasco.
Split FBS into 2 Divisions to get rid of the worst of the patsy teams.
There are now zero non-conference games to be played.
Top D1 - 64 Teams
4 new 16 Team Conferences
Four Team Playoff of the 4 Conf. Champs.
2nd Tier D1 64 Teams
4 new 16 Team Conferences
Four Team Playoff of the 4 Conf. Champs.
Solves ALL of the other inherent problems, and it completely takes the always biased 'voters' out of the equation permanently.
Split FBS into 2 Divisions to get rid of the worst of the patsy teams.
There are now zero non-conference games to be played.
Top D1 - 64 Teams
4 new 16 Team Conferences
Four Team Playoff of the 4 Conf. Champs.
2nd Tier D1 64 Teams
4 new 16 Team Conferences
Four Team Playoff of the 4 Conf. Champs.
Solves ALL of the other inherent problems, and it completely takes the always biased 'voters' out of the equation permanently.
Right. And the conference championships serve as one round so you already have an 8 team playoff.
I don't get the bitching, Ohio St. made it in last year despite not winning their division or conference. The blanket 'must win your conference' line of reasoning doesn't make any sense because it assumes all divisions and conferences are of equal strength. Same with conference formats. For example Pac 12 and Big 12 play a round robin while no other conference does, how do we judge that vs. the other conferences? In every other conference but those two all the teams don't play each other, whose to say UGA would win the West for example?
They made the right choice. Ohio St. not only lost twice, they were blown out in both of em. No team that loses a game by 31 points can claim to be a top 4 team, conference championship be damned.
Nope. People always complain for a day or two, look at last year. It will, and should stay at 4 for a long time.
They aren't changing the system because a two loss OSU team that lost to Iowa by 31 was left out
Yeah...it would suck to have rematches. Can you imagine if that happened in conference championship games or something....that would really render the regular season meaningless... oh wait...
I think winning your conference championship isn't the "all in" solution. Say last year with mediocre record. If we somehow pulled off an upset vs Bama in the SECCG...we deserved the playoffs? If Stanford beat USC this Friday night they deserved a shot at the playoffs?
IF the Gators had won against Bama last year, then they should have been instantly named the SEC-C and the NC...
---- I said IF...
Exactly. So why would you want to increase the chances of it happening even more by adding more teams from some of the same conferences.
You will then start diluting the meaning of the conference championship games by adding more teams.
Georgia just got in on a rematch with the same team it played only a couple weeks ago and nobody gave a rat’s ass.
Our biggest moment as a program came on a rematch and we celebrate it here daily to this day!
Rematches aren’t diluting crap.
Opening up the playoffs only makes it more fair and less subjective.
It is so crazy how people hang on to the old system like it is some kind of valued treasure. The old system was crap. We need to move on, get 8, and finally get this bitch decided on the field like it should be.
When it happens, it will be the greatest spectacle on earth and you will love it. Trust sadgator.
Our biggest moment as a program came on a rematch and we celebrate it here daily to this day!
Rematches aren’t diluting crap.
Opening up the playoffs only makes it more fair and less subjective.
It is so crazy how people hang on to the old system like it is some kind of valued treasure. The old system was crap. We need to move on, get 8, and finally get this bitch decided on the field like it should be.
When it happens, it will be the greatest spectacle on earth and you will love it. Trust sadgator.
What’s wrong with the current system of 4 teams? There is so much parity that do you really think we need to see teams #5-8. It’s just going to make the regular season and conference championship games less meaningful.
5 conferences...4 spots...( Plus the ND factor) dilutes the "all conference Champs get in" argument.
The FCS has been having playoff since 1978 when they started with 4 teams. in 1981 they went to 8 teams and in '82 to 12 teams. In '86 they went to 16 teams and in 2010 they went to 20 teams. I watch a lot of those games and they are exciting to me. I think eventually the money and complaining from conferences that get left out will cause FBS to go to 8 teams.
And, to me, the best way to do it would be to have the 5 P5 conference champions, the top ranked non P5 team, plus the highest ranked non-conference champions. Seed them and play it out. If done like that this year, 1st round match-ups would be: UCF/Clemson, Oklahoma/USC, Georgia/Wisconsin & Alabama/Ohio St. Pretty good games, IMO. 2nd round would be the UCF/Clemson winner vs. Bama/Buckeye winner & Sooner/Trojans winner vs. Georgia/Wisky winner.
That extra layer of games would generate more interest throughout the country and millions of dollars in revenue. They could even have the 1st round games at the home stadium of the higher seeds. FCS does it that way and it's worked well for them. Why not the big boys?
And, to me, the best way to do it would be to have the 5 P5 conference champions, the top ranked non P5 team, plus the highest ranked non-conference champions. Seed them and play it out. If done like that this year, 1st round match-ups would be: UCF/Clemson, Oklahoma/USC, Georgia/Wisconsin & Alabama/Ohio St. Pretty good games, IMO. 2nd round would be the UCF/Clemson winner vs. Bama/Buckeye winner & Sooner/Trojans winner vs. Georgia/Wisky winner.
That extra layer of games would generate more interest throughout the country and millions of dollars in revenue. They could even have the 1st round games at the home stadium of the higher seeds. FCS does it that way and it's worked well for them. Why not the big boys?
Because some crazy old farts are still longing for the days of the Brontosaurus Burger Bedrock Bowl.
Why do 2 and 3-loss teams deserve a chance at a title again? That's just participation trophy bullshit. Winning your conference alone shouldn't guarantee anything, there are bad divisions and bad conferences.
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