Wow. This chart from Gallup is stunning, proves that dems are scared to leave the house, being complete sheep

[gator1776]

Can't make this up: The WHO is now AGAINST lockdowns to stop Covid-19

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WHO has consistently been a joke for decades. Nobody should listen to them, listen to the US health department in your local state health departments, and even they are not perfect

Can’t wait to see how Joe Biden modifies his position on shutting everything down

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Offering clarity over the report, Salemi said what the “CDC’s update really means is that 94% of the people who died FROM (DC: emphasis mine - he said from not with) the coronavirus had at least one other health condition, in addition to COVID-19, that could have contributed to their passing,” ABC7 WWSB reported.

So he says 94% have died FROM covid. Which is clearly incorrect according to the CDC. 94% died WITH covid. Not from.

Assuming the testing was accurate, 100% of the dead died WITH covid while 90%+ died FROM it.

Good grief. No, 100% did NOT die WITH covid, again you are intentionally confusing the data, which is the same thing the media is doing. You just have a different motivation for doing so.

THIS is what the media should have done, and it's what the doctor and yourself should be doing too. THIS would have been the RESPONSIBLE thing to do:

State the numbers AS THE CDC DID:

6% have died FROM covid, meaning covid was the ONLY cause of death. This is important, because most people hear the 210k figure and think it means 210k healthy people got covid and immediately died.

94% have died WITH covid (not from or from/with whatever the hell that's supposed to be). NOW this is where the media can do a service, by explaining that covid CONTRIBUTED to the death. This is where they can explain that the person died from multiple causes and because they already had a present health issue that compromised the immune system, that made covid a life-threatening virus to them, where it would NOT have been IF they were healthy. THIS is where you have the discussion about protecting yourself if you have those underlying issues and how you can be mindful of people that do.

But for some reason both you and the doctor want to change how we describe those who died WITH covid to being people that died FROM covid. Of course that's not accurate. I guess you both think those deaths are dismissed if you don't classify them as FROM.

You classify them accurately, as the CDC does, and you EXPLAIN the difference between from and with as cause of death.

The media doesn't do that for political reasons. But I believe when it comes to something as serious as this, you give people ACCURATE data, and don't superimpose your opinions or agendas over it.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Can't make this up: The WHO is now AGAINST lockdowns to stop Covid-19

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Remember when the sheep here swore by what the WHO said? Times have changed, haven't they @bradleygator and @sadgator?

If a dem were in the White House today, there would be no lockdown, there would be no mask mandate, there would be nothing. And every sheep here would be parroting what the dem president was saying.

And everyone here knows it.

 

[kjfreeze]

Man, this thread wore me out.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

WITH means someone with corona which would be everyone that accurately tests positive. That's 100% of the people that have it. Of course not everyone with it dies from it but everyone who has it and dies , died with it.

FROM means it was the main cause of death and all other problems were contributing factors. Not all who have it die from it. This is less than 100% and not a number shared anywhere I have seen. Obviously it is less than 94% but close as not every motorcycle death with corona was fraudulently classified as corona. We know there is some fraud and/or inaccuracy in the numbers.

From is a subset of with.

From it ALONE means it was the only cause of death. CDC says 6% of deaths are from covid alone.

From alone is a subset of from.

It is similar to the fact that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

This is called the English language.

While I agree that the media is engaged in panic porn, the Docs' "commentary" is not panic porn.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This is called the English language.

While I agree that the media is engaged in panic porn, the Docs' "commentary" is not panic porn.

Agree to disagree, 100% of them died WITH 2 arms as well.

FROM = sole cause of death
WITH = multiple causes of death.

Both groups must add up to 100%. You seem to be wanting to say 6% died FROM but that 100% died WITH. That's not how it works. You can say 100% HAD covid when they died. That would be accurate.

And I never said his commentary was panic porn, I said the media's intentionally is.


And again for the millionth time, my main issue is the media is presenting this as if 100% of the cases died FROM covid, when only 6% did according to the CDC.

Accurately report the facts, let the American people decide what it means to them. Leave the commentary and agendas out of it.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

English is the dominant west Germanic language and the third most spoken language on earth. Few English nouns have gender. Boy, girl, ship and country are English nouns with gender. All German nouns have gender.

 

[nail1988]

Sheep hoodwinked again

Over 6,000 Scientists Sign 'Anti-Lockdown' Petition Saying It's Causing 'Irreparable Damage'

Over 6,000 Scientists Sign 'Anti-Lockdown' Petition

"As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies," the petition says.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

If you are waiting for someone to tell what to do, you need to move to North Korea.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Are the sheep really hoodwinked? I'm beginning to wonder. I'm beginning to think that they KNOW how many lives are being lost due to lockdown, how many lives are being ruined.

I don't think they care. I think they have lost their moral compass completely and have convinced themselves that ANY amount of American pain, death and suffering is worth it, if it gets rid of Trump.

I think they are that sick.

 

[gator1776]

WITH means someone with corona which would be everyone that accurately tests positive. That's 100% of the people that have it. Of course not everyone with it dies from it but everyone who has it and dies , died with it.

FROM means it was the main cause of death and all other problems were contributing factors. Not all who have it die from it. This is less than 100% and not a number shared anywhere I have seen. Obviously it is less than 94% but close as not every motorcycle death with corona was fraudulently classified as corona. We know there is some fraud and/or inaccuracy in the numbers.

From is a subset of with.

From it ALONE means it was the only cause of death. CDC says 6% of deaths are from covid alone.

From alone is a subset of from.

It is similar to the fact that all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

This is called the English language.

While I agree that the media is engaged in panic porn, the Docs' "commentary" is not panic porn.

Wow are you still trying to help me explain this to him, amazing how some people refuse to see their fingers right in front of their face.

I am not selling panic porn nor my pushing it, but I am selling and pushing my friend @SGUN pegging porn

P.m. me

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Wow are you still trying to help me explain this to him

You know he isn't, he left that post over a day ago, and you read it then. Everyone here knows if you had put me on Ignore as you claim, you could no longer see this thread, since I started it.