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Wow, look at all the El Paso threads.

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Oh wait, there's none? Huh. I am sure the same reaction would have occured had the shooter been a Muslim, or an undocumented immigrant. There are, after all, no raging hypocrites among the MAGA crowd.

White Supremacy IS the danger in this country, and Trump is the detonator
 
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Oh wait, there's none? Huh. I am sure the same reaction would have occured had the shooter been a Muslim, or an undocumented immigrant. There are, after all, no raging hypocrites among the MAGA crowd.

White Supremacy IS the danger in this country, and Trump is the detonator
Psychotropic drugs are the danger in this country!
Of course it's all by design.
 
Shooter was a registered democrat.

Maybe there's no threads because most of us are smart enough not to try to politicize a mass shooting.

Then there's you.
 
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Oh wait, there's none? Huh. I am sure the same reaction would have occured had the shooter been a Muslim, or an undocumented immigrant. There are, after all, no raging hypocrites among the MAGA crowd.

White Supremacy IS the danger in this country, and Trump is the detonator
This has nothing to do with party affiliations (many shooters are aligned with both conservatives/progressive movements). This has to do with gamers unable to separate real life from fantasy. It is a mental illness much like kleptomania or psychopathy at manic levels. We have a secular country and have strayed from values that made us accountable for our actions and behavior. Without God there will be no peace.
 
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It’s not a conspiracy theory to say most of the time these mass murderers are registered Democrats, but it is a conspiracy theory to make an infantile insinuation that Trump is some how connected to this horrendous crime because he wants to enforce existing immigration law and secure the border.
 
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The degradation of family values and loss of religion has greatly attributed to these types of crimes. You can add that the depiction of violence in films and gaming has also played a role in desensitizing the American youth. It didn’t help that ACLU got into the business of putting and keeping mentally ill people out of hospitals. The liberal media spreading discourse and divide because they hate an
legitimately elected president is the cherry on top, This crap wasn’t going on 30 years ago when we had all these guns.
 
The degradation of family values and loss of religion has greatly attributed to these types of crimes. You can add that the depiction of violence in films and gaming has also played a role in desensitizing the American youth. It didn’t help that ACLU got into the business of putting and keeping mentally ill people out of hospitals. The liberal media spreading discourse and divide because they hate an
legitimately elected president is the cherry on top, This crap wasn’t going on 30 years ago when we had all these guns.
Good point...if a video game basically raises a child, it is quite possible that there will be mal-adapted social behavior. So many one parent homes means the TV, internet, or gaming has been substituted for parenting and social interaction. Too much adult content is way too much for a young brain to consume and sort through.
 
Good point...if a video game basically raises a child, it is quite possible that there will be mal-adapted social behavior. So many one parent homes means the TV, internet, or gaming has been substituted for parenting and social interaction. Too much adult content is way too much for a young brain to consume and sort through.
Today’s films are so graphic as well as the gaming. It adds another element to the desensitization. In addition, there are more ill equipped parents raising kids. We had kids at a much older age and I can see the difference in parenting philosophies with other parents. Kids aren’t taught responsibility anymore and good decision making. They are coddled and and can’t handle adversity when it occurs.
 
I would link his manifesto garbage but I don’t think it is appropriate. What I will say after reading it on Drudge, is that to make any insinuation that this about Trump or gun control, is completely moronic and ridiculous.
 
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Media needed a diversion from coming news that looks terrible for dems, and it got it, as it always does. If DECLAS happens this week don't be shocked if CNN doesn't throw together a 'town hall' on gun violence and make that the only issue they discuss this week.

Look here, do not look HERE.

And @bradleygator I know you think this is insanity. That's fine, but now you are paying attention. That's what's important.
 
Check the boxes from posted manifesto if its real
hates corps ...dem
enviro nut ... dem
dislike immigration ...pub
likes segregation not due to racism but because he worships at alter of diversity ...give this warped reasoning to the dem
pro 2nd amend ...pub
seems to favor universal HC ...dem

IMHO If Bernie was for stopping immigration he would get this guys vote over Trump...reminds me of he unibomber...Take action? OK but terrorism is terrorism regardless of his reasoning...guy is sane ...thats scary...got a date with a needle ...thats easier than the death he dished out on these people.
 
Check the boxes from posted manifesto if its real
hates corps ...dem
enviro nut ... dem
dislike immigration ...pub
likes segregation not due to racism but because he worships at alter of diversity ...give this warped reasoning to the dem
pro 2nd amend ...pub
seems to favor universal HC ...dem

IMHO If Bernie was for stopping immigration he would get this guys vote over Trump...reminds me of he unibomber...Take action? OK but terrorism is terrorism regardless of his reasoning...guy is sane ...thats scary...got a date with a needle ...thats easier than the death he dished out on these people.

He’s a registered DemonCat.

They’re saying the manifesto was too sophisticated in the writing style to be written by this punk.
 
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Went shopping today and spent 2 hours in a store that was showing CNN.

The ENTIRE time they covered the 2 shootings. Even dragged wolf blitzer in on a Sunday to handle it. This was literally the ONLY thing they covered. They didn't break away a single second to cover anything else.

It will be like this ALL week. MSM will need a diversion.
 
Went shopping today and spent 2 hours in a store that was showing CNN.

The ENTIRE time they covered the 2 shootings. Even dragged wolf blitzer in on a Sunday to handle it. This was literally the ONLY thing they covered. They didn't break away a single second to cover anything else.

It will be like this ALL week. MSM will need a diversion.

CNN is behind the food network in ratings and trying to get @urtren back
 
Oh wait, there's none? Huh. I am sure the same reaction would have occured had the shooter been a Muslim, or an undocumented immigrant. There are, after all, no raging hypocrites among the MAGA crowd.

White Supremacy IS the danger in this country, and Trump is the detonator

And now we know the Ohio shooter was a self-avowed socialist AND elizabeth warren supporter:



@urtren is reading the board but not commenting. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
 
The Texas gunman reportedly posted a racist, anti-immigrant manifesto before the attack prompting the left to predictably lay the blame on Trump as well as conservatives and the National Rifle Association. White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney defended the president on Sunday, pointing out that the alleged shooter’s own manifesto predicted the president would be falsely blamed for his actions.

“If you do read that, you’ll know that he felt this way for a long time, even before President Trump got elected. Why aren’t we trying to figure out a way to bring the nation together instead of saying it is the president’s fault,” Mulvaney said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

As Owens pointed out in her tweet, the Ohio gunman described himself on social media as a pro-Satan leftist who supported Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren for president. The 24-year-old gunman opened fire outside a bar in Dayton, killing his own sister and eight others before police fatally shot him.



But, as Owens noted in her tweet, the finger-pointing is one-sided, and the left continues slamming the president and his supporters for inciting hatred and division while regularly doing just that themselves.
 
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Oh wait, there's none? Huh. I am sure the same reaction would have occured had the shooter been a Muslim, or an undocumented immigrant. There are, after all, no raging hypocrites among the MAGA crowd.

White Supremacy IS the danger in this country, and Trump is the detonator





This is what liberals ALWAYS DO!!!!!

They LIE about a breaking news story to GET A NARRATIVE OUT THERE.

Then when the FACTS come out, the CORRECTIONS are whispered if even mentioned.

Want to know the greatest THREAT to this country today?

Liberalism.
 
My take on the El Paso shooter is that he is emblematic of exactly what I've been saying on this board for a while: this country and its economy is wholly captured by corporations and their financiers, and the government is run for their interests. This had been the case in advancing degrees probably since the government's inception, but it became a complete capture likely some time during the Clinton administration, probably about the time that FDIC-insured banks were ok'd to start speculating in the markets. The crash of 2008 and the subsequent bailouts laid this all bare. Bush and Obama basically decided to re-inflate the same bubbles, using printed money to give the illusion of a functioning economy. Unfortunately, notwithstanding the nonsense that you hear from the Fed or the Treasury, there is no way to inject trillions in printed money into an economy without weakening the currency, which hurts people who depend on a paycheck to live.

People are on to this and rightfully pissed off about it. Trump tapped into that rage and won the presidency. Bernie Sanders tapped into it as well and should have won the Democratic nomination. Part of the reason that Trump beat Hilary in rust-belt areas that traditionally lean Democrat is that blue collar voters wouldn't support more policy making for DC and Wall St. particularly when presented with a candidate who made $400k a pop for speeches to investment banks.

My sense is that most of the people on this board would agree with the above paragraphs. Where I depart from most of you is that you think Trump is going to do anything meaningful about it. You guys cite unemployment numbers (as did Obama), but nobody cites to the fact that the labor market participation rate is still at historical lows (it has rebounded slightly under Trump but is still horrific). You guys cite the DJIA (see above). Rest assured, the Fed will continue to debauch the currency and we will continue to lose jobs to poor countries overseas and/or to automation and illegal immigrants and we will continue to get slaughtered in the international trade market, because that is exactly how Wall Street and the tech sector want it.

What I have always said is that the stock market will crash again when some shock (student loan defaults, hell probably colatteralized debt obligations again) leads to collateral calls and all the collateral holders discover that their securities, marked at triple digit valuations, are in fact worthless on the open market. Washington will again propose bailouts, at the direction of Wall Street, and civil war will result. Once the serious unrest starts then you will see what the government's interest in civilian surveillance and drone military technology has been all about.

My take on the El Paso shooter, based largely on his manifesto, and probably the Dayton shooter too, is that these guys are getting a jump start on the "revolution." Hell the El Paso guy basically says it. He obviously sees his action as a continuation of the Virginia shooter's rationale and he intended his manifesto in part as guidance to future shooters.

These guys shoot up Wal Marts and churches for the same reason that 20 year olds in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc... join ISIS, and for that matter the same reason 15 year old gang members in Chicago shoot up barbecues: they have no stake in the economy, which means they have no stake in society, and so they don't GAF.

The El Paso shooter sees his action as a completely justified step toward revolution and precisely contemplated by the second amendment.

Reversing the trend toward this alienation would require a complete overhaul of our economy to reduce our dependence for "wealth" creation on asset appreciation (i.e. stocks and real estate), which requires relatively little labor, and increase labor-intensive industry. This will not happen, because Western labor is expensive, and large scale manufacturers will not tolerate the costs and neither will shareholders.
 
My take on the El Paso shooter is that he is emblematic of exactly what I've been saying on this board for a while: this country and its economy is wholly captured by corporations and their financiers, and the government is run for their interests. This had been the case in advancing degrees probably since the government's inception, but it became a complete capture likely some time during the Clinton administration, probably about the time that FDIC-insured banks were ok'd to start speculating in the markets. The crash of 2008 and the subsequent bailouts laid this all bare. Bush and Obama basically decided to re-inflate the same bubbles, using printed money to give the illusion of a functioning economy. Unfortunately, notwithstanding the nonsense that you hear from the Fed or the Treasury, there is no way to inject trillions in printed money into an economy without weakening the currency, which hurts people who depend on a paycheck to live.

People are on to this and rightfully pissed off about it. Trump tapped into that rage and won the presidency. Bernie Sanders tapped into it as well and should have won the Democratic nomination. Part of the reason that Trump beat Hilary in rust-belt areas that traditionally lean Democrat is that blue collar voters wouldn't support more policy making for DC and Wall St. particularly when presented with a candidate who made $400k a pop for speeches to investment banks.

My sense is that most of the people on this board would agree with the above paragraphs. Where I depart from most of you is that you think Trump is going to do anything meaningful about it. You guys cite unemployment numbers (as did Obama), but nobody cites to the fact that the labor market participation rate is still at historical lows (it has rebounded slightly under Trump but is still horrific). You guys cite the DJIA (see above). Rest assured, the Fed will continue to debauch the currency and we will continue to lose jobs to poor countries overseas and/or to automation and illegal immigrants and we will continue to get slaughtered in the international trade market, because that is exactly how Wall Street and the tech sector want it.

What I have always said is that the stock market will crash again when some shock (student loan defaults, hell probably colatteralized debt obligations again) leads to collateral calls and all the collateral holders discover that their securities, marked at triple digit valuations, are in fact worthless on the open market. Washington will again propose bailouts, at the direction of Wall Street, and civil war will result. Once the serious unrest starts then you will see what the government's interest in civilian surveillance and drone military technology has been all about.

My take on the El Paso shooter, based largely on his manifesto, and probably the Dayton shooter too, is that these guys are getting a jump start on the "revolution." Hell the El Paso guy basically says it. He obviously sees his action as a continuation of the Virginia shooter's rationale and he intended his manifesto in part as guidance to future shooters.

These guys shoot up Wal Marts and churches for the same reason that 20 year olds in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc... join ISIS, and for that matter the same reason 15 year old gang members in Chicago shoot up barbecues: they have no stake in the economy, which means they have no stake in society, and so they don't GAF.

The El Paso shooter sees his action as a completely justified step toward revolution and precisely contemplated by the second amendment.

Reversing the trend toward this alienation would require a complete overhaul of our economy to reduce our dependence for "wealth" creation on asset appreciation (i.e. stocks and real estate), which requires relatively little labor, and increase labor-intensive industry. This will not happen, because Western labor is expensive, and large scale manufacturers will not tolerate the costs and neither will shareholders.
Holy shit...

bradleygator 2020....
 
52 shot 7 killed in Owebamastan this weekend.

1600 shot this year and 300 killled

Chicago biggest trauma hospital had to turn trauma patients away.

Not a peep from CNN, MSDNC, alphabet networks or @urtren

How much coverage would deaths in Chicago be given by CNN if the mayor was a Republican and Trump supporter?

CNN would run the names of every victim on a ticker across the bottom of the screen 24-7 and everyone here knows it.
 
How much coverage would deaths in Chicago be given by CNN if the mayor was a Republican and Trump supporter?

CNN would run the names of every victim on a ticker across the bottom of the screen 24-7 and everyone here knows it.
All the dangerous cities are led by dims. Memphis, Oakland, Detroit, Atlanta, Baltimore, St Louis, Miami, new York, Philadelphia, and los Angeles.
 
All the dangerous cities are led by dims. Memphis, Oakland, Detroit, Atlanta, Baltimore, St Louis, Miami, new York, Philadelphia, and los Angeles.

Dems have traditionally sold it to city as "Well we tried to get money to help you, but dem mean ole Republicans blocked it!"

People are starting to wake up. #BLEXIT. See @bradleygator? Don't give up hope.
 
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