Wonder what “critical thinkers” think of Trump’s total Flip Flop...

[sadgator]

...on the whole “looting-shooting” comment...

So let’s just be honest with each other...even if you love Trump, you totally know that his “qualification” of the initial tweet is a total BS lie, right?

There’s no way that a critical thinker would allow him or her-self to be misled by that from what his clear actual intent was, right?

lol...he always says what he means...until he doesn’t...

www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/05/29/when-the-looting-starts-the-shooting-starts-trump-walter-headley/%3foutputType=amp

 

[Orangeclad]

When does the being honest with each other begin? Not going to start by sourcing the Washington Post. And so far the only people that have died via shooting have been non protestors/rioters.

 

[sadgator]

Lol...you’re really gonna deny the actual origin of the quote??

ok...let’s start sheep counting...

1...

 

[Orangeclad]

Lol...you’re really gonna deny the actual origin of the quote??

ok...let’s start sheep counting...

1...

Lol yourself. I completely understand the original meaning of the quote decades ago. And every riot I have seen was followed by shots fired. So how many rioters have been shot? Zero. Be very careful about calling others sheep when you use the Wash Compost as your source. Happy grazing!
PS. When are you guys going to stop ruining every American city you have control of?

 

[sadgator]

Way to deflect...try to stay on topic...it is simple...just admit or deny this statement...

“I believe Trump’s clarification of what he initially meant with the “shooting” reference.”

 

[Orangeclad]

Way to deflect...try to stay on topic...it is simple...just admit or deny this statement...

“I believe Trump’s clarification of what he initially meant with the “shooting” reference.”

I do not KNOW if Trump's clarification is the truth or not. But I do KNOW 2 things.
You do not KNOW either whether Trump's clarification is the truth or not.
And I also know what you WANT the truth to be.

 

[sadgator]

You know...or you are in denial...

 

[BamaFan1137]

“I believe Trump’s clarification of what he initially meant with the “shooting” reference.”

I took it that way from the jump. I never assumed otherwise.

It was typically poorly worded, like most things he has said, but no....I never assumed that he meant federal troops would soon start shooting looters nor did I believe he was trying to provoke others into shooting people.

It's logical that in chaos and anarchy things will devolve into greater and greater violence. If that makes me a sheep in your eyes, so be it. And right back at you.

 

[BamaFan1137]

You know...or you are in denial...

Before Trump's tweet, did the thought occur to you that people might start defending themselves, their homes, their businesses? Do you remember the Koreans in LA that defended themselves and their businesses during the Rodney King riot? It eventually devolved into gun fights in the streets. Did you assume that couldn't happen here? Would it be bad if it did? If so, shouldn't we try to prevent that?

 

[Orangeclad]

You know...or you are in denial...

Please don't insult our intelligence by starting threads with phrases like "let's be honest", when you are full of crap, man. Not only can you read Trump's mind but mine as well. You are a completely dishonest broker whose belief system is not based on accepting any truth but what you want as the truth. Again, quit saying let's be honest. You ain't capable.

 

[sadgator]

I took it that way from the jump. I never assumed otherwise.

It was typically poorly worded, like most things he has said, but no....I never assumed that he meant federal troops would soon start shooting looters nor did I believe he was trying to provoke others into shooting people.

It's logical that in chaos and anarchy things will devolve into greater and greater violence. If that makes me a sheep in your eyes, so be it. And right back at you.

Please...there’s 2...

 

[sadgator]

You know exactly what he intended...he is expressly talking about military intervention and uses a borrowed quote from Miami riots...

look...sadgator is the first one to admit that the politicians on his side of the fence can say some outlandish and dumb things he doesn’t agree with...

why are you incapable of doing the same despite your own objective knowledge to the contrary? sadgator would have a lot more respect for you if you did...

 

[BamaFan1137]

Please...there’s 2...

2???? Help me out here.

 

[BamaFan1137]

You know exactly what he intended...he is expressly talking about military intervention and uses a borrowed quote from Miami riots...

look...sadgator is the first one to admit that the politicians on his side of the fence can say some outlandish and dumb things he doesn’t agree with...

why are you incapable of doing the same despite your own objective knowledge to the contrary? sadgator would have a lot more respect for you if you did...

I really don't agree sad.

The moment I saw it I thought, "why can't he get someone to proofread his freaking tweets before he hits send." I thought that because I knew what he meant but it was worded vaguely enough that I knew then what the reaction would be.

And sad you have to admit it makes more sense the way I believe it. Is it more likely that federal troops would soon begin killing rioters or that business owners, home owners and vigilantes would soon start shooting people?

If you want to criticize him for being a horrible communicator who needs a filter, I'm on your side. If you're trying to convince me that he wanted looters shot, you've got a tough sell my friend.

 

[BamaFan1137]

2???? Help me out here.

Never mind, I get it. I'm #2.

That makes you #1 on my sheeple list.

 

[Orangeclad]

You know exactly what he intended...he is expressly talking about military intervention and uses a borrowed quote from Miami riots...

look...sadgator is the first one to admit that the politicians on his side of the fence can say some outlandish and dumb things he doesn’t agree with...

why are you incapable of doing the same despite your own objective knowledge to the contrary? sadgator would have a lot more respect for you if you did...

I can't discuss an opinion based topic with someone who claims to KNOW, or have unequivocal knowledge, of what is in somebody else's mind, including mine. I do not possess those types of supernatural or telekinetic powers. Believe what you want, the key word being want.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Lol yourself. I completely understand the original meaning of the quote decades ago.

Never heard it before, so Trump didn't come up with that?

And let me guess, the Washington Post is the source we needed to help us (ie sheep like @sadgator) understand what Trump REALLY meant?

Why am I not surprised?

Dems are going to do anything they can to try to stoke a race war in this country. The party of the KKK and segregation always has, and always will.

Sheep fall along because they always have, and always will.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I can't discuss an opinion based topic with someone who claims to KNOW, or have unequivocal knowledge, of what is in somebody else's mind, including mine. I do not possess those types of supernatural or telekinetic powers. Believe what you want, the key word being want.

Remember, he didn't know what to think about this issue till the Washington Post told him how to think.

Definition of a sheep.

 

[IrishPokerDog]

Lol...you’re really gonna deny the actual origin of the quote??

ok...let’s start sheep counting...

1...

I think his tweet was an unfiltered trial ballon to see the reaction ..... Clinton’s used them
all the time, but they would roll them out through some proxy first -
Trump leads chin first through Twitter

Not how’d id do it

PS: at some point looting has to be stopped- anarchy cannot be countenanced for long without reaction

 

[LinksGator]

Trump is an asshole at times but he is my asshole, Biden would in response to looting and burning, first form a commission with people like you that would think about the situation for a week and then blame the second amendment, the lack of adequate abortions, and then give each looter a stipend and free education. Then they would realize all the universities were in ashes and that the Venezuelan dollar suddenly became equal to ours. This country has turned into a Tball wussy society where everyone thinks they deserve success without any effort and that is SAD. When the Chinese are coming with their armies and the Russian missiles are inbound who do you want in the White House? Joe asking his wife to call Hunter and ask him to reason with the Chinese or Trump shooting back? Simple question......."........

 

[BamaFan1137]

PS: at some point looting has to be stopped- anarchy cannot be countenanced for long without reaction

Borrowed time imho.

 

[sadgator]

Never heard it before, so Trump didn't come up with that?

And let me guess, the Washington Post is the source we needed to help us (ie sheep like @sadgator) understand what Trump REALLY meant?

Why am I not surprised?

Dems are going to do anything they can to try to stoke a race war in this country. The party of the KKK and segregation always has, and always will.

Sheep fall along because they always have, and always will.

It has nothing to do with the Washington Post...it has everything to do with the origin and clear intent of the quote he shamefully walked back...

If you can’t acknowledge that, you are no better than the sheep you claim to despise...nice job “falling along”...

 

[sadgator]

Look...and for the record...sadgator has no problem with using force against lawlessness. You want to shoot looters?...go ahead...no problem as far as sadgator is concerned...

but the President of the US ought to be a little more sensitive to his expressions on that matter...and when you do say something outlandish or inappropriate (as this President has an unprecedented propensity to do)...just own it...don’t cowardly lie your way out of it with a foolish and transparent reversal...

which, of course, nobody here will acknowledge...and WE’RE the sheep...lol...

any respectable conservative here want to just acknowledge his true intent with the initial tweet??

sadgator will give you major props and “hero-like“ status If you do...

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I just want @sadgator to man up and call out the rioters who aren't wearing masks or observing social distancing. Is this a 'worldwide health crisis' or not?

Funny how fast the dems dropped that hoax when a REAL crisis showed up, ain't it?

 

[Orangeclad]

Why don't you tell sadgator, since he desperately wants to be right on this so badly, to offer proof as to what Trump's intent was. After you contact him, tell him to provide an email or a phone message or a witness that proves Trump's intent. Tell him an opinion is not fact no matter how badly sad wants it to be. Try to contact sad.

 

[sadgator]

Why don't you tell sadgator, since he desperately wants to be right on this so badly, to offer proof as to what Trump's intent was. After you contact him, tell him to provide an email or a phone message or a witness that proves Trump's intent. Tell him an opinion is not fact no matter how badly sad wants it to be. Try to contact sad.

We don’t need to do that. We all KNOW what his intent was. However, nobody seems to want to acknowledge it.

 

[sadgator]

I just want @sadgator to man up and call out the rioters who aren't wearing masks or observing social distancing. Is this a 'worldwide health crisis' or not?

Funny how fast the dems dropped that hoax when a REAL crisis showed up, ain't it?

sadgator admits that the “protestors” are not making wise decisions.

see how easy that is?...“Baaaa”

 

[Orangeclad]

Wow. How did you contact sad so fast? Tell sad we are all sad that sad can't acknowledge that he has no idea what the truth is despite his super powers. Please let sad know.
By the way, do you and sad agree on everything or ever differ? Are you roommates?

 

[sadgator]

sadgator is VERY good at reading comprehension...

actually...you don’t even really have to be that good at reading comprehension to understand the context and intent of Trump’s initial tweet....

which is kind of weird...you conservatives are supposed to be educated...you can certainly do better...

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

sadgator admits that the “protestors” are not making wise decisions.

see how easy that is?...“Baaaa”

So that's it? I mean we got three months from you and @bradleygator wringing your hands over how the rest of us were going to kill the planet because we refused to take 'worldwide health crisis' seriously, then the rioters come along and are doing the very things that you two claimed would KILL US ALL, and they get a 'not making wise decisions. Happy? Now back to Trump sucks...'

LOL Damn dude even you knew it was a hoax all along. I wasn't sure till this moment.

 

[Orangeclad]

How do we even know sadgator feels the way you do? We don't know who you are. Maybe sadgator disagrees with your opinion which is what we are talking about. Go to the dictionary and look up the word "fact". Then look up " opinion". Tell sad we thank him for his opinion.

 

[BamaFan1137]

We don’t need to do that. We all KNOW what his intent was. However, nobody seems to want to acknowledge it.

You actually don't believe us? You seriously think we're lying?

You and I disagree on what he meant. It never dawned on me to accuse you of lying simply because you have another viewpoint.

I believe that you believe what you believe. I just also happen to believe that you are wrong.

 

[Orangeclad]

You actually don't believe us? You seriously think we're lying?

You and I disagree on what he meant. It never dawned on me to accuse you of lying simply because you have another viewpoint.

I believe that you believe what you believe. I just also happen to believe that you are wrong.

He accused me of lying in this thread already telling me he actually KNEW that I felt differently than what I stated. He has no clue as to the difference between fact and opinion. In his thread title he uses the term "critical thinkers" which is code for agree with him and your a critical thinker. Disagree with him and you're a lying dumbass.

 

[BamaFan1137]

He accused me of lying in this thread already telling me he actually KNEW that I felt differently than what I stated. He has no clue as to the difference between fact and opinion. In his thread title he uses the term "critical thinkers" which is code for agree with him and your a critical thinker. Disagree with him and you're a lying dumbass.

Well, that's one tactic I suppose.

 

[sadgator]

You actually don't believe us? You seriously think we're lying?

You and I disagree on what he meant. It never dawned on me to accuse you of lying simply because you have another viewpoint.

I believe that you believe what you believe. I just also happen to believe that you are wrong.

You are a good poster. We could have a beer or a bourbon and get along.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

He accused me of lying in this thread already telling me he actually KNEW that I felt differently than what I stated. He has no clue as to the difference between fact and opinion. In his thread title he uses the term "critical thinkers" which is code for agree with him and your a critical thinker. Disagree with him and you're a lying dumbass.

Sad is your typical emotional soy boy who can't think for himself, he needs to be told his talking points, that's why he ran with whatever the WaPo said, cause it was apparently some new version of Orange Man Bad. And all emotional liberals love that one.

 

[sadgator]

Let’s make that...

 

[BamaFan1137]

You are a good poster. We could have a beer or a bourbon and get along.

Agree.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Let’s make that...

I am in decent shape now so if you could replace me with a more svelte sheep I would appreciate it.

 

[sadgator]

Agree.

But because sadgator is a liberal...gotta warn you...he’ll probably gay up his bourbon with a maraschino cherry...so you just gotta kinda look past it...it’s cool...