Why wont pelosi deliver articles of impeachment to Senate?

[ElgenBoden]

So you DON’T believe in the Bible, as they were told to claim the lands in Palestine, right ? Unless of course you tore out sections of the OT to wrap blunts

You really think the same God you worship told them to butcher everyone living there, except for young virgin girls.

All adults, male children. Even their livestock.

God is eternal.

Thats not the same God you and I worship.

Which either means we have a fake God, or the Israelites just made it up to excuse their slaughter.

 

[IrishPokerDog]

You really think the same God you worship told them to butcher everyone living there, except for young virgin girls.

All adults, male children. Even their livestock.

God is eternal.

Thats not the same God you and I worship.

Which either means we have a fake God, or the Israelites just made it up to excuse their slaughter.

So again, you don’t believe in the Bible, you just excerpt pieces of it that suites you and your particular argument du jour. What God said then, He couldn’t possibly have meant, because __________ (fill in the blank).

I don’t sweat the first chapters of Genesis like others do, as they were allegories as to the intent of God’s creation, rather than actual literal facts ..... but I’m pretty sure the remainder is meant to be factual....and upon which the initial Judeo-Christian-Muslim basis was founded

 

[ElgenBoden]

So again, you don’t believe in the Bible, you just excerpt pieces of it that suites you and your particular argument du jour. What God said then, He couldn’t possibly have meant, because __________ (fill in the blank).

I don’t sweat the first chapters of Genesis like others do, as they were allegories as to the intent of God’s creation, rather than actual literal facts ..... but I’m pretty sure the remainder is meant to be factual....and upon which the initial Judeo-Christian-Muslim basis was founded

So you bash me for picking and choosing, then proceeded to tell me about which parts you discard and which parts you take as fact.

That is cute.

 

[EvilWayz]

I do.
The Israelites capturing of Palestine after the exodus is a crime that puts their version of the Holocaust to shame.

So you're telling me their claim to Palestine comes from butchering those who lived there, 3000 years ago?

If you read the NT, they're clearly the bad guys.

Bullshit says I. Any lands taken in war are fair game. And I don't recall the six day war being started by the Jews. I believe it was Egypt stacking on the border that started that little conflict.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I do.
The Israelites capturing of Palestine after the exodus is a crime that puts their version of the Holocaust to shame.

So you're telling me their claim to Palestine comes from butchering those who lived there, 3000 years ago?

If you read the NT, they're clearly the bad guys.

The God of Abraham and the Law of Moses were summoned there. Yes by the new testament thou shall not kill but Palestine doesn't subscribe to the new Testament nor do the Orthodox Jewish faith people of that region.

 

[ElgenBoden]

Bullshit says I. Any lands taken in war are fair game. And I don't recall the six day war being started by the Jews. I believe it was Egypt stacking on the border that started that little conflict.

I generally agree.

But the Jews absolutely did start the hostilities there.

They attacked the USS Liberty, in hopes of sinking it, to draw us into attacking Egypt on their behalf.

The land was in the ottoman empire, the Jews didn't defeat them.

And the Jews were subsequently beaten by the Babylonians, then Romans.

Losing claim to that land.

The British defeated the Ottomans and gave it to the Jews.

Then they attacked the King David hotel, killing all kinds of Brits.

The armed forces of the US and UK have made it go. If we stopped funding and arming them, and they hung on, then maybe.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Israelis are literally under attack daily. Actual rockets from people that have said they should be wiped from the face of the Earth.

But they are the aggressors here, and in the wrong according to the left. And they wonder why other minority groups like blacks and hispanics are leaving their party in droves.

 

[ElgenBoden]

The God of Abraham and the Law of Moses were summoned there. Yes by the new testament thou shall not kill but Palestine doesn't subscribe to the new Testament nor do the Orthodox Jewish faith people of that region.

I don't really consider Christianity to come from Abraham.

Any examination of Christian theology shows it's clearly a henotheistic religion. Just like the Norse and Greco Roman religions.

Christianity is an Indo-European religion, with some influence from the near east.

Judism and Islam are monotheistic religions, and Islam is actually an early form of eastern Christianity, devoted to monotheism and iconoclasm.

Neither are my brothers.

My God is tbe God of Deus Vult.

We must reclaim Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I don't really consider Christianity to come from Abraham.

Any examination of Christian theology shows it's clearly a henotheistic religion. Just like the Norse and Greco Roman religions.

Christianity is an Indo-European religion, with some influence from the near east.

Judism and Islam are monotheistic religions, and Islam is actually an early form of eastern Christianity, devoted to monotheism and iconoclasm.

Neither are my brothers.

My God is tbe God of Deus Vult.
We must reclaim Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem

Of course not....but even the Old Testament points to Jesus Christ
as the savior that will come and he was part of the Holy Trinity since the creation.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

I generally agree.

But the Jews absolutely did start the hostilities there.

They attacked the USS Liberty, in hopes of sinking it, to draw us into attacking Egypt on their behalf.

The land was in the ottoman empire, the Jews didn't defeat them.

And the Jews were subsequently beaten by the Babylonians, then Romans.

Losing claim to that land.

The British defeated the Ottomans and gave it to the Jews.

Then they attacked the King David hotel, killing all kinds of Brits.

The armed forces of the US and UK have made it go. If we stopped funding and arming them, and they hung on, then maybe.

The Turks did need a humbling after taking over Constantinople. The Ottoman Empire had to end.

 

[IrishPokerDog]

So you bash me for picking and choosing, then proceeded to tell me about which parts you discard and which parts you take as fact.

That is cute.

I argue over whether it was a literal 6 days to make the solar system, not that God did it. I argue over whether Noah survived a flood over the WHOLE earth vs the KNOWN earth.

You’re arguing where God told the Israelites to go and defeat the Indigenous people’s of current Palestine and live there - that was untrue, and just their general d!ckheadedness..... well that’s not interpretation, that’s just plain denying it

 

[IrishPokerDog]

Don’t feed the troll...

You sir are correct

 

[ElgenBoden]

The Turks did need a humbling after taking over Constantinople. The Ottoman Empire had to end.

The Ottomans had been known as the sick man of Europe, basically since Lepanto.

But yeah, I'm all for finishing up the crusades.

 

[ElgenBoden]

Don’t feed the troll...

What makes me a troll?

Is disliking my perspective sufficient?

 

[ElgenBoden]

I argue over whether it was a literal 6 days to make the solar system, not that God did it. I argue over whether Noah survived a flood over the WHOLE earth vs the KNOWN earth.

You’re arguing where God told the Israelites to go and defeat the Indigenous people’s of current Palestine and live there - that was untrue, and just their general d!ckheadedness..... well that’s not interpretation, that’s just plain denying it

So you think the God you worship, gave instructions to people to murder every man, woman, and male child (keep the girls for sex and stuff) who lived in what would become Palestine?

I think it's far more likely a barbaric group of people did something barbaric and said "well God wanted me to have this land and those girls."

It jusr doesn't make sense.

Christian believe in an eternal, unchanging God. These are two irreconcilable perspectives on the nature of God.

 

[BoxofFrogs]

The God of Abraham and the Law of Moses were summoned there. Yes by the new testament thou shall not kill but Palestine doesn't subscribe to the new Testament nor do the Orthodox Jewish faith people of that region.

The "real verse" says, and I quote
"Thou shall not murder"
Big difference!
This is why I don't believe in organized religions or denominations.

 

[ElgenBoden]

The God of Abraham and the Law of Moses were summoned there. Yes by the new testament thou shall not kill but Palestine doesn't subscribe to the new Testament nor do the Orthodox Jewish faith people of that region.

Actually, for what it's worth, there are still, and in the recent past even more Palestinian Christians.

Have you ever seen the videos of Palestinian Christians celebrating Easter, when the IDF soldiers begin to harass and attack them?

Ilhan Omar was right about one thing. Evangelical Christians, among others, are hypnotized by Zionism.

Our religion has been subverted to manipulate us into supporting a foreign country, against our best interests