Why put tariffs on Canada?
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Also, what is the point of Trump wanting to buy Greenland???
And why in the world is he wanting the Panama Canal back???
Trump always has a plan. One days you guys will put aside your TDS and start listening.
As usual, Trump haters are asking the wrong question. They want to know why Trump is being so mean to our ALLIES Canada and Mexico.
Meanwhile, here's what our ALLIES are doing:
Mexico: Looking the other way and letting criminals stream across our Southern border. Letting drug cartels push drugs into the US.
Canada: Also lax on border security, letting criminals stream into the US from the north. Letting China sell them its steel then passing that steel along to the US and claiming it is Canadian steel in order to help China bypass US tariffs on steel.
Right question to ask: Why are Mexico and Canada refusing to help the US with border security AND aiding our enemies in the process?
That's not what allies do. Allies help each other. Mexico and Canada aren't acting like allies to the US.
Meanwhile, here's what our ALLIES are doing:
Mexico: Looking the other way and letting criminals stream across our Southern border. Letting drug cartels push drugs into the US.
Canada: Also lax on border security, letting criminals stream into the US from the north. Letting China sell them its steel then passing that steel along to the US and claiming it is Canadian steel in order to help China bypass US tariffs on steel.
Right question to ask: Why are Mexico and Canada refusing to help the US with border security AND aiding our enemies in the process?
That's not what allies do. Allies help each other. Mexico and Canada aren't acting like allies to the US.
You're asking the wrong question.
The real question is why the they aren't higher?
The U.S is the most powerful nation in the world. You either get on the train or get off.
The real question is why the they aren't higher?
The U.S is the most powerful nation in the world. You either get on the train or get off.
^ Question answered. Does Illegal Shift still have dialup modem internet access to news? Next?
If Trump was the dictator/king that libs here think he is, that's precisely what he would do.
Trump clearly has what he feels is credible evidence that Trudeau and the politicians running Canada are controlled by China. So he wants to take over Canada before China does.
Canada cannot survive without US trade. It accounts for 20% of the nation's GDP.
Trump raises tariffs to Canada to attempt to et Canada to tighten its border. Note Trudeau refuses. Is that how an ally responds?
Trump is going to gradually increase tariffs to help make the case to the Canadians that Trudeau is compromised.
And it's going to work. Recall in his inauguration address, Trump talked about how the US is about to enter its Golden Age, but he also mentioned how the US is about to EXPAND.
By the end of his term, the US will control Canada, greenland, and the Panama Canal.
PS: Hey libs...when Trump starts really drilling home the message that China controls Canada and how they are the enemy, pay CLOSE ATTENTION to which politicians come out of the woodwork claiming that CHINA IS OUR FRIEND. Those are the guys bought and paid for by China.
Trump always has a plan. 4D chess, as @GatorTheo correctly said.
I will grant you there are some risk and I have reservations, but I think the three main things Trump is trying to achieve are: secure borders, he’s trying to entice companies to move back to America or move to America to build their goods. He’s trying to make it more appealing to manufacture in America.
Third I think he’s trying to force other countries to respect and value their ability to trade with America as opposed to just take advantage of America.
It’s risky, but it worked in 2016 and I hope it will work again now.
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My question for this thread is based directly on Canada. We don't have a border problem with Canada. The trade deal we have is the trade deal Trump himself negotiated a few years ago. Canada is also are greatest ally, our closest "friend", most of our professional sports leagues have Canadian teams.
So my question is.....what is the purpose of tariffs on Canada specifically?
You're already in the ditch.
And the purpose was carefully explained to you. Trump is acting in America's best interests. If Canada was our friend, they would be enforcing their borders and wouldn't be in bed with China.
As the opioid epidemic raged in the United States, killing thousands, Congress in 2020 established a commission to look into ways to reduce the flow of the drugs into the country. The commission found that “Canada is not known to be a major source of fentanyl, other synthetic opioids or precursor chemicals to the United States, a conclusion primarily drawn from seizure data,” according to its February 2022 report.
OK, well if you think we are going to have a better border country than Canada........good luck looking for that.
He thinks a router is somebody who works at UPS.
In 2024, fentanyl was primarily seized at official ports of entry along the Southwest US border.
Amount of fentanyl seized by weight in pounds from January to December 2024 (weight in pounds)Southwest Border 20,610
Coastal/Interior 443
Northern Border 50
First of all, there’s this
Second of all, when Canada becomes the 51st state will have the north poles our border that would actually be a safer and more secure border
I love the philosophy that well there’s not as much poison coming from Canada so we should allow it to happen
Is that really your argument?
Agree with everything here
LOL, you apparently don't realize that the report you linked doesn't say much about Canada. It identifies Mexico, China and India as the problems. It does say this "Some fentanyl products are smuggled from Canada into the United States for sale, on a smaller scale".
Thanks for supporting my side of the discussion though.
Just wait until you see what happens when the arctic opens more trade routes and oil sites…
Can't give you specifics because I've not researched the particulars. I do think I have enough familiarity to comment though.
Marco Rubio was on with Megyn Kelly this past week. Based on what I heard, the gist of it (IMO) comes down to this:
- Foreign policy should be driven by "National Interest." That's how the rest of the world does it - China, Russia, Germany, Japan, et al are going to do what's in their interest,.
- For a long time, the focus of American foreign policy has considered acting in the US's interests as somehow suspect, that we've restrained ourselves "for the sake of the world."
- We're not going to do that anymore.
- Bring national security production back into the US. Taiwan is the worlds largest producer of semiconductors. Chinese ambitions toward Taiwan are no secret - if that supply was cut off we'd be in a world of hurt. And semiconductors aren't the only type of product essential to our national wellbeing which we're not producing here.
- National Security in General. Apparently, companies based in Hong Kong are heavily involved in the operation of the Panama Canal. Hong Kong is no longer independent - if the Chinese government told these companies "Shut the canal down to American shipping if you can, complicate it if you can't," that's what would happen. That's not in our interest.
- Reciprocity. You're never going to convince another nation to drop tariffs If you're unwilling to impose them yourself - same way Dems thought "Independent Counsels" were wonderful . . . right up to the moment when a DEM President found himself in an IC's sights. Then & only then were they willing to let the IC law expire.
That's the public explanation. The reality is that our enemies have bought many of our politicians. That's why we constantly make deals with our enemies that are basically a wet kiss to our enemies, while hurting us.
That's also why we have politicians staying in Congress till their 80s and later. Because the countries that have bought them won't LET them retire. Think Feinstein. McConnell. Pelosi. All have/had clear cognitive issues and have no business being in Congress.
Our enemies have bought politicians in other countries as well. Keep watching what happens with Canada.
@Illegal-shift it’s a very simple message, if you don’t want the tariffs, deal with this fairly, with respect, and close the fentanyl trade coming in through your borders. It would be hypocritical to tell Mexico that and not tell Canada that as well.
If your argument is less happens over the Canadian border, that’s a kid saying your sin is not as big as the others so continue to commit it. It’s psychological and intellectually a fallacy. Trump ran on this, if he were to now not follow through on it then he would just be like every other politician, be it a rhino or a liberal.
That’s just my opinion.
If your argument is less happens over the Canadian border, that’s a kid saying your sin is not as big as the others so continue to commit it. It’s psychological and intellectually a fallacy. Trump ran on this, if he were to now not follow through on it then he would just be like every other politician, be it a rhino or a liberal.
That’s just my opinion.
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@Illegal-shift you do realize this is why when police shut something down they cover both the front door in the back door…….
You and I could have some very interesting conversations over a few beverages lol
Dude. You are wasting your band width with this guy. TDS is a serious illness, I believe in his case it's terminal. 😂
He needs Trump to be wrong, then his hate of Trump is justified, in his mind.
His TDS wont allow him to address this cause that would mean admitting Trump was right.
Not happening.
Brad,
I understand the argument for tariffs in general and am not making an issue with that. My question specifically relates to Canada. My understanding is that the treaty we currently operate with is the one Trump himself negotiated. Based on statistics....the Fentanyl issue is tiny compared to Mexico and others.
So what is it that is unfair with regard to Canadian trade? Its an honest question because Canada, to me, seems like a much different problem than Mexico and China and yet they are getting a similar treatment.
Your opinion is just illogical. Its like saying if a kid steals a candy bar and a different man robs a bank your going to treat them the same.
Mexico and Canada are vastly different problems......its not the least bit hypocritical to treat them different. You punish based on the crime.......our whole legal system is based on that. Hard to believe I would have to explain this.
Now.....tell me how Canada is not dealing with the US fairly? That's the actual question I was asking......and I suspect nobody here knows enough about this to really answer it (including me, which is why I asked).
Canada is allowing China imports to be "laundered" through their country. WTF do you think Fentanyl comes from, by the way? 😂
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