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This is silly derp propaganda. Before Spurrier got to Florida, as bad as Florida had been UF lead the series with fsu. Frankly, fsu was ECU until UF went on probation in the 80s, you're welcome. btw the 84 UF team was as good as any team fsu ever fielded, better than any fsu team that didn't win a title. In any event it doesn't matter, Meyer and his fake heart attack are gone, nochamp is gone, Coach Mac is the real deal, we'll be returning you to second class status directly, just wait for it.
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Steve lost 8/12 to BB, and never won in Tallahassee. Steve lost in Tallahassee in 96 and needed a rematch to win the NC.

Prior to Steve, UF football had really accomplished little except for a conference title that was taken away. Its sole Heisman belonged to Steve.
 
You guys run one of the 3 dirtiest programs in college football, UF using your rules for 5 years near 40 years ago really doesn't invalidate anything.
...but that is the time period the poster used (early '80's)...
 
...ok....

Academic fraud is way worse than giving a kid a hat or a coach paying out of pocket for a kid to go to his dad's funeral. If you actually went to fsu I understand why you don't get that. I will type using small words only going forward.
 
Steve lost 8/12 to BB, and never won in Tallahassee. Steve lost in Tallahassee in 96 and needed a rematch to win the NC.

Prior to Steve, UF football had really accomplished little except for a conference title that was taken away. Its sole Heisman belonged to Steve.

whatever. And Bobby only won twice against Spurrier in Gainsville. It took his best two teams to pull it off. Both went on to win a NC.
 
...but that is the time period the poster used (early '80's)...

Meh, I don't care, honestly only care about the future. I like our current coach. I think yours is over rated. I think time will tell one way or the other.
 
whatever. And Bobby only won twice against Spurrier in Gainsville. It took his best two teams to pull it off. Both went on to win a NC.

Steve should have just stayed a few more years, he'd have sent bobby off as he deserved.
 
OK, I stand corrected, he lost 8 out of 14, not 8 out of 12.

but you are not too far off with your statement that FSU didn't really get on the map until Spurrier. However, FSU did had 11 and 10 wins in 79 and 80, and played for the NC in 1980, losing narrowly to Oklahoma 18-17 in the Orange Bowl. I don't think UF had ever been ranked as high as 10th at that time, and that was a decade before Spurrier. He was still coaching QBs at GT and then paying his dues at Duke as their OC back then.

FSU also was ranked top 5 from 87-91, prior to Spurrier, and continued to be ranked top 5 through the Spurrier years despite playing both Florida and Miami every year.

But give Spurrier credit. When he took over at Florida he quickly copied what BB and JJ were doing and won you your first legit conference championship.


You do know Bobby had a losing record vs UF and the Gators won more national titles than fsu did during his tenure, just a couple little facts you should juxtapose over your tired warchant cool aid.
 
May want to rethink that...
""A lot of hand-wringing has been done over the current state of UF football, but the truth is, if you want someone to blame, look in the mirror folks—we’re all culpable.""

Wasn't talking about the OP. If you could read you would have understood that.
 
The noles use yet another thread to disparage their Big Brother. Shocking.

Well, that certainly wasn't my intent...my first post was intended to give you guys something to celebrate (similar to us dancing in the streets when Jeff Bowden was finally fired...I mean quit). Let the record show that the RRT is not responsible for the on going hijack.

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Well, that certainly wasn't my intent...my first post was intended to give you guys something to celebrate (similar to us dancing in the streets when Jeff Bowden was finally fired...I mean quit). Let the record show that the RRT is not responsible for the on going hijack.

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And then a few years later the best coach FSU has had was given the boot as well.
 
Dude, Steve beat you for Florida's first National Title. Your argument sucks...and you have totally failed in every way.

As to the OP's initial statement and question, we are in freakin' game 4 after the nightmare. How 'bout just enjoying the liberation movement for at least half a season before you start dragging us back down into the mud to play some finger pointing blame game? Don't be that guy.
This. Why the negativity right now?
 
Well, that certainly wasn't my intent...my first post was intended to give you guys something to celebrate (similar to us dancing in the streets when Jeff Bowden was finally fired...I mean quit). Let the record show that the RRT is not responsible for the on going hijack.

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All of your faithful followers picking up the RRT slack. :p
 
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speaking of OC hires,


and until Spurrier took the helm, that UF's biggest accomplishment. in contrast, FSU had built a program from scratch in half the time, been ranked in the top 5, and played for the NC.

I would dispute the played for a NC part. UGA won the NC in 1980 and Bama won it in 1979. I'll stipulate that those were 2 good seasons but UF had been very good in the late 20's and again throughout most of the 60's against an SEC schedule.
 

Shall we talk about fsu's probation in the 70's.....or the letter of reprimand in the early 80's......or Footlocker in 1994 or the Academic fraud case resulting in probation again in the 00's. fsu has been on probation in each of the last FOUR decades and has been busted for violations in football far more than UF has - this despite not having a program until 1947.

Still want to talk probation smack?
 
OK, I stand corrected, he lost 8 out of 14, not 8 out of 12.

but you are not too far off with your statement that FSU didn't really get on the map until Spurrier. However, FSU did had 11 and 10 wins in 79 and 80, and played for the NC in 1980, losing narrowly to Oklahoma 18-17 in the Orange Bowl. I don't think UF had ever been ranked as high as 10th at that time, and that was a decade before Spurrier. He was still coaching QBs at GT and then paying his dues at Duke as their OC back then.

FSU also was ranked top 5 from 87-91, prior to Spurrier, and continued to be ranked top 5 through the Spurrier years despite playing both Florida and Miami every year.

But give Spurrier credit. When he took over at Florida he quickly copied what BB and JJ were doing and won you your first legit conference championship.

Hey, easy now. It is much easier to just admit I am right versus making up tall tales. You cherry pick a few seasons, big deal. Hell, UF had some really good 1 loss and 2 loss teams in the 60's. The 90's was the decade you nolies had consistently great seasons. I won't post anything else until you google the word consistent.
 
If I may, it seems to me like Urban Meyer started the the deterioration. He brought in and tolerated the criminal element. The discipline was nonexistent. Team morale/discipline deteriorated precipitously. Urban recognized that he had lost control and that implosion was imminent. Thus, his "heat problems" and "retirement". Will Muschamp made some OC hiring mistakes. JMHO

Oh please. UM has nothing to do with this. It falls on WM. Everyone talks about how UM left a broken program, and how bad he left it, BUT he left enough talent for even a moron like Muschamp to win 11 games in year two.

Once the program was his, and the majority of the players on the roster were his recruits, the program fell apart.

And the clown wanted to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust, yet left a roster with almost no OL
 
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Oh please. UM has nothing to do with this. It falls on WM. Everyone talks about how UM left a broken program, and how bad he left it, BUT he left enough talent for even a moron like Muschamp to win 11 games in year two.

Once the program was his, and the majority of the players on the roster were his recruits, the program fell apart.

And the clown wanted to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust, yet left a roster with almost no OL
I always had the feeling that Muschamp wanted an offense that resembled rugby. He virtually achieved it.
 
SOS was 5-8-1 against the noles. Funny thing is prior to SOS the noles had really accomplished very little too. Damn, I knew Steve was good, but he brought both programs into consistent national spot light! Wow!

Prior to Spurrier coming to coach Florida in 1990, the Gators had a 9-game winning streak against the semi's and two 6-game winning streaks against the Bowden-coached seminoles! No matter who UF's coach was, the Gators have always kicked FSU's ass - that hasn't changed!
 
OK, I stand corrected, he lost 8 out of 14, not 8 out of 12.

but you are not too far off with your statement that FSU didn't really get on the map until Spurrier. However, FSU did had 11 and 10 wins in 79 and 80, and played for the NC in 1980, losing narrowly to Oklahoma 18-17 in the Orange Bowl. I don't think UF had ever been ranked as high as 10th at that time, and that was a decade before Spurrier. He was still coaching QBs at GT and then paying his dues at Duke as their OC back then.

FSU also was ranked top 5 from 87-91, prior to Spurrier, and continued to be ranked top 5 through the Spurrier years despite playing both Florida and Miami every year.

You know what, I was NEVER impressed with that streak of top 5 finishes by FSU. Never. Bragging about the long streak of top finishes is like overcompensating for FAILURE. Had FSU won more than two national titles in 14 years than it would be something. Do you think that the Atlanta Braves like to brag about all of those World series appearances but only one title to show for? Despite having numerous top ranked recruiting classes and playing in such a weak-ass conference like the ACC (Bowden knowingly chose to avoid playing the BEST competiton available in the SEC), this just show incompetence, futility and waste-fullness of top talent by Bobby Bowden and the whole FSU football organization during this period. The Deion Sanders/Sammie Smith classes never win the national title? How many times did FSU fail to win it all when it had the chance?
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As for Florida not being relevant before Steve Spurrier became Florida's coach, that's not true at all.

In the 1960s, Florida played in an Orange Bowl & Sugar Bowl while Spurrier was a player at UF and won the Heisman in 1966. UF, also, played in another Sugar Bowl in the mid-1970s. That's three major bowl games and a Heisman winner for Florida to none before FSU did anything of significance under Bowden. FSU did not have a Heisman winner until the 1990s, about 30 years later!

In the mid 1980s when Florida was beating FSU/Bowden/6-game winning streak, Florida finished #6 (1983), #3 (1984), and #5 (1985). That's three straight Top 10/6 finishes. During this period, Florida had an 18-game unbeaten streak which was only broken 25 years later by the Tebow-led Florida teams from 2008/09 (22-straight game winning streak). Florida also had their 1st #1 ranking in 1985 after defeating Heisman winner Bo Jackson's Auburn - only a loss to Georgia in the following week prevented the Gators from winning their first AP national title! Incidentally, the 1984 Florida team was dubbed the National Champions by NY Times!

So, You can't say Florida did not do anything in college football before Spurrier got there. Florida successfully won national titles under two different coaches when Urban Meyer did it in 2006 & 2008. While its early, Jim MacElwain seems like another promising coach for Florida!
 
You know what, I was NEVER impressed with that streak of top 5 finishes by FSU. Never. Bragging about the long streak of top finishes is like overcompensating for FAILURE. Had FSU won more than two national titles in 14 years than it would be something. Do you think that the Atlanta Braves like to brag about all of those World series appearances but only one title to show for? Despite having numerous top ranked recruiting classes and playing in such a weak-ass conference like the ACC (Bowden knowingly chose to avoid playing the BEST competiton available in the SEC), this just show incompetence, futility and waste-fullness of top talent by Bobby Bowden and the whole FSU football organization during this period. The Deion Sanders/Sammie Smith classes never win the national title? How many times did FSU fail to win it all when it had the chance?
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As for Florida not being relevant before Steve Spurrier became Florida's coach, that's not true at all.

In the 1960s, Florida played in an Orange Bowl & Sugar Bowl while Spurrier was a player at UF and won the Heisman in 1966. UF, also, played in another Sugar Bowl in the mid-1970s. That's three major bowl games and a Heisman winner for Florida to none before FSU did anything of significance under Bowden. FSU did not have a Heisman winner until the 1990s, about 30 years later!

In the mid 1980s when Florida was beating FSU/Bowden/6-game winning streak, Florida finished #6 (1983), #3 (1984), and #5 (1985). That's three straight Top 10/6 finishes. During this period, Florida had an 18-game unbeaten streak which was only broken 25 years later by the Tebow-led Florida teams from 2008/09 (22-straight game winning streak). Florida also had their 1st #1 ranking in 1985 after defeating Heisman winner Bo Jackson's Auburn - only a loss to Georgia in the following week prevented the Gators from winning their first AP national title! Incidentally, the 1984 Florida team was dubbed the National Champions by NY Times!

So, You can't say Florida did not do anything in college football before Spurrier got there. Florida successfully won national titles under two different coaches when Urban Meyer did it in 2006 & 2008. While its early, Jim MacElwain seems like another promising coach for Florida!

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According to Brantley on Twitter it may be the equipment staff that is to blame as he tweeted we have the worst equipment staff in the entire country.
 
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