Just curious what others heard about the Spring since the info was pretty scarce it seemed on twitter and the rest. About all I remember was hearing Lingard had some big runs in scrimmages but no word if that was against 2nd stringers or not. Didn't seem to hear too much about Jones either except the standard coach speak. New starters on defense either.
What was said about Spring practice?
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On Offense --- JMOHO's of course, but I don't see Dan's offense changing a lot, just some of the players with maybe a little bit more emphasis on the running game. This is normal really, and it's just the usual year to year adjustments.
QB - Jones / Richardson -- Kitna--D-R-Wilson
OL - Good quality, size, and depth (15), plus 3 newbee Fr.
LT Goruaige 6-5 313 rsJr
LG White 6-5 346 Jr
OC Reese 6-6 354 6th Yr Grad
RG Braun 6-6 352 So
RT Delance 6-5 307 rsSr
RB - Pierce/Davis/Wright--Lingard/Bowman
Top quality (3 4's and 2 5's) with experienced depth (5).
The playing pecking order is yet to be determined, and nothing says that it will remain the same all season. I do expect to see all 5 play in the rotation, at least to begin with.
TE - #5 Gamble & #2 Zipperer -- #22 Odom-#16 Elksnis-#12 Wilcox
Again, solid experienced talent with quality depth.
Saying that nobody can 'replace' (1-4) Pitts,,, is not saying that their will be a huge drop-off in the TE production. The cupboard is not bare, but instead it's full of quality depth. I heard it reported that Gamble/Zippere if combined, would be the #2 TE in the SEC for 2020. (21 for 295 yds, 14 Yds/Rec, 5 TD's as Pitts backups).
Pitts - 43 for 770 yds, 17.9 Yds/Rec,12 TD's
Gator's 3 TE's combined - 64 for 1,065 Yds, 16.6 Yds/Rec, 17 TD's.
For comparison:
UF's leading receiver was 1st Rnd Toney - 70 for 984, 14 Yds/Rec, 10 TD's.
WR - Shorter/Copeland/Whittemore/Weston/Henderson
Wells-Pouncey-Fraziars--Reynolds-Burke
Now that the team has developed some quality-depth, it will be interesting to see which players work smart over the summer to become the starters and/or primary players at position.
QB - Jones / Richardson -- Kitna--D-R-Wilson
OL - Good quality, size, and depth (15), plus 3 newbee Fr.
LT Goruaige 6-5 313 rsJr
LG White 6-5 346 Jr
OC Reese 6-6 354 6th Yr Grad
RG Braun 6-6 352 So
RT Delance 6-5 307 rsSr
RB - Pierce/Davis/Wright--Lingard/Bowman
Top quality (3 4's and 2 5's) with experienced depth (5).
The playing pecking order is yet to be determined, and nothing says that it will remain the same all season. I do expect to see all 5 play in the rotation, at least to begin with.
TE - #5 Gamble & #2 Zipperer -- #22 Odom-#16 Elksnis-#12 Wilcox
Again, solid experienced talent with quality depth.
Saying that nobody can 'replace' (1-4) Pitts,,, is not saying that their will be a huge drop-off in the TE production. The cupboard is not bare, but instead it's full of quality depth. I heard it reported that Gamble/Zippere if combined, would be the #2 TE in the SEC for 2020. (21 for 295 yds, 14 Yds/Rec, 5 TD's as Pitts backups).
Pitts - 43 for 770 yds, 17.9 Yds/Rec,12 TD's
Gator's 3 TE's combined - 64 for 1,065 Yds, 16.6 Yds/Rec, 17 TD's.
For comparison:
UF's leading receiver was 1st Rnd Toney - 70 for 984, 14 Yds/Rec, 10 TD's.
WR - Shorter/Copeland/Whittemore/Weston/Henderson
Wells-Pouncey-Fraziars--Reynolds-Burke
Now that the team has developed some quality-depth, it will be interesting to see which players work smart over the summer to become the starters and/or primary players at position.
Those expecting a 'run heavy' offense are more likely to be surprised than confirmed imo.
Both Jones and Richardson have strong arms with very good receivers to throw to.
Load the box on them to stop the run and they will end up burning you with their throws.
And while there is plenty of talent/experience returning at WR/TE, some seem to either forget or overlook these stats, that don't even include the 2 new to the rotation 5-star RB's.
RB Malik Davis 5-10 198 rsSr
Rush - 4.7 ypc
Rec. - 31 for 377 yds, 12.2 Yds/Rec
RB Nay'Quan Wright 5-9 197 rsSo
Rush - 3.9 ypc
Rec. - 19 for 219 yds, 11.5 Yds/Rec
RB Dameon Pierce 5-10 212 Sr
Rush - 4.7 ypc
Rec. - 17 for 156 yds, 9.2 Yds/Rec
Those 3 RB's had 67 receptions for 752 yds, 11.2 Yds/Rec combined.
So, even when Jones (6.8 ypc) or Richardson (8.6 ypc) look like they are taking off to run, which considering their ypc averages in 2020 is excellent, they can still pull up and throw the ball instead.
What I expect to see from them is a balanced run/pass nightmare for opposing defenses.
Both Jones and Richardson have strong arms with very good receivers to throw to.
Load the box on them to stop the run and they will end up burning you with their throws.
And while there is plenty of talent/experience returning at WR/TE, some seem to either forget or overlook these stats, that don't even include the 2 new to the rotation 5-star RB's.
RB Malik Davis 5-10 198 rsSr
Rush - 4.7 ypc
Rec. - 31 for 377 yds, 12.2 Yds/Rec
RB Nay'Quan Wright 5-9 197 rsSo
Rush - 3.9 ypc
Rec. - 19 for 219 yds, 11.5 Yds/Rec
RB Dameon Pierce 5-10 212 Sr
Rush - 4.7 ypc
Rec. - 17 for 156 yds, 9.2 Yds/Rec
Those 3 RB's had 67 receptions for 752 yds, 11.2 Yds/Rec combined.
So, even when Jones (6.8 ypc) or Richardson (8.6 ypc) look like they are taking off to run, which considering their ypc averages in 2020 is excellent, they can still pull up and throw the ball instead.
What I expect to see from them is a balanced run/pass nightmare for opposing defenses.
I think % wise there will be a big change back to closer to what Mullen usually runs.
As far as the RBs getting more carries its hard to say as the QB will be keeping the ball quite a bit now on many of those plays.
As far as the RBs getting more carries its hard to say as the QB will be keeping the ball quite a bit now on many of those plays.
What many seem to forget or misunderstand is this; Dan's offense is not set in concrete. They go into a game with a mostly run/pass balanced game plan. However, what they actually do depends on what the other team's defense decides to try to stop.
1. Load the box and they pass more.
2. Drop 8 and they run more.
3. Play a balanced D and it becomes a man-to-man contest,,, can you stop us?
Last year, the combination of the OL run blocking deficiencies and Trask's command of the passing game, plus Pitts-Toney-Grimes-Davis, had them doing more passing than running, but the top 2 RB's still averaged 4.7 ypc.
With these guys now moved on to the NFL, QB Trask, LT Stone, OC Heggie, WR Toney, TE Pitts, WR Grimes, we all expect things to be a bit different. Having all 4 RB's back, plus adding Bowman, along with to solid dual threat QB's, would lead most to think that they will run it more, but that's yet to be seen. It will also depend on what opposing D's try to do. Can Jones/AR handle the pressure, make good decisions, complete their passes?
Many questions remain to be answered before deciding to be run heavy, pass heavy, or balanced.
And game to game opposing D's choices could force any of those 3 to be the answer that day.
JMOHO of course, but I'll be looking for a more 'balanced' attack in 2021.
1. Load the box and they pass more.
2. Drop 8 and they run more.
3. Play a balanced D and it becomes a man-to-man contest,,, can you stop us?
Last year, the combination of the OL run blocking deficiencies and Trask's command of the passing game, plus Pitts-Toney-Grimes-Davis, had them doing more passing than running, but the top 2 RB's still averaged 4.7 ypc.
With these guys now moved on to the NFL, QB Trask, LT Stone, OC Heggie, WR Toney, TE Pitts, WR Grimes, we all expect things to be a bit different. Having all 4 RB's back, plus adding Bowman, along with to solid dual threat QB's, would lead most to think that they will run it more, but that's yet to be seen. It will also depend on what opposing D's try to do. Can Jones/AR handle the pressure, make good decisions, complete their passes?
Many questions remain to be answered before deciding to be run heavy, pass heavy, or balanced.
And game to game opposing D's choices could force any of those 3 to be the answer that day.
JMOHO of course, but I'll be looking for a more 'balanced' attack in 2021.
I think we'll be more balanced than last year, if not perhaps leaning towards run heavy.
or at least I hope so. If not, we're in trouble. That would mean that all these running backs and our QB aren't working well. Last year was ugly when it came to effectively running the ball, but you would hope that a dual threat at QB plus the talent in the backfield would let us be more effective.
if we're pass heavy, something has gone wrong.
or at least I hope so. If not, we're in trouble. That would mean that all these running backs and our QB aren't working well. Last year was ugly when it came to effectively running the ball, but you would hope that a dual threat at QB plus the talent in the backfield would let us be more effective.
if we're pass heavy, something has gone wrong.
Last year everybody knew we were going to throw the ball and they still couldn’t stop us. If we have at least a decent running game ( and I think it will be more than decent) we are going to be more difficult to defend.
And against Georgia, Mullen utilized the oft-open wheel route to his advantage. Trask completed eight (of 9) passes on wheel routes for 217 yards and a score, per our tracking, against the SEC's No. 1 defense entering the game. Mullen made note that he never called the same wheel-route play twice, but utilized the concept in various ways to different levels of success using different receivers.
A running back led the team in receiving against Georgia, that being Malik Davis who caught numerous passes on wheels. The 2nd leading receiver? RB Nay'Quan Wright, who took one wheel route reception 50 yards down the field. Considering Trask set UF and SEC passing records throughout the game, those facts are a bit odd, but it's what the concept allowed Florida to do offensively.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...-mullen-conceptually-based-offense-kyle-trask
A running back led the team in receiving against Georgia, that being Malik Davis who caught numerous passes on wheels. The 2nd leading receiver? RB Nay'Quan Wright, who took one wheel route reception 50 yards down the field. Considering Trask set UF and SEC passing records throughout the game, those facts are a bit odd, but it's what the concept allowed Florida to do offensively.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...-mullen-conceptually-based-offense-kyle-trask
Well we obviously won't have Big 12 type passing numbers again with this offense. My guess would be we go back to a normal Mullen pass/run ratio or close to it. Even though it might not produce the passing pinball numbers like last season it probably makes an LSU type upset less likely if you do have the talent advantage.
Give that team a decent defense they might have been calling it one of the best in CFB history.
Hard to say but usually teams with weak running games don't fare well against the big boys.
I think the Tebow teams would have destroyed last season's team even with a better defense.
As to the UF running game in 2021, the committee is what I like to see.
Five Headed Monster
With new QB Emory Jones (or AR) more adept at running the ball, the ability to move the ball on the ground is a huge priority. And there is some talent. We haven’t really been able to see it all yet, but there very well could be a five-headed monster at RB for the Gators in 2021.
RB Malik Davis rsSr 5-10 198 - 4.7 ypc, 31 Rec
RB Dameon Pierce 5-10 212 Sr - 4.7 ypc 17 Rec
RB Nay'Quan Wright 5-9 197 rsSo - 3.9 ypc, 19 Rec
RB Lorenzo Lingard 6-0 206 rsJr - Miami xfer *****
2020 - 5 for 6.4 ypc, 2 ST's Tkls @ UF
RB Demarkcus Bowman 5-10 187 rsFr - Clemson xfer *****
2020 - 9 for 3.6 ypc @ CU
https://247sports.com/college/flori...k-room-at-Florida-underappreciated-166793544/
Five Headed Monster
With new QB Emory Jones (or AR) more adept at running the ball, the ability to move the ball on the ground is a huge priority. And there is some talent. We haven’t really been able to see it all yet, but there very well could be a five-headed monster at RB for the Gators in 2021.
RB Malik Davis rsSr 5-10 198 - 4.7 ypc, 31 Rec
RB Dameon Pierce 5-10 212 Sr - 4.7 ypc 17 Rec
RB Nay'Quan Wright 5-9 197 rsSo - 3.9 ypc, 19 Rec
RB Lorenzo Lingard 6-0 206 rsJr - Miami xfer *****
2020 - 5 for 6.4 ypc, 2 ST's Tkls @ UF
RB Demarkcus Bowman 5-10 187 rsFr - Clemson xfer *****
2020 - 9 for 3.6 ypc @ CU
https://247sports.com/college/flori...k-room-at-Florida-underappreciated-166793544/
That depends on many different things.
Like any position on the team, they each have their plus and minus traits.
Which teams defense they go against each week, and how they try to play. Dan's chosen game plan can alter the number of touches that each gets.
Just from what I've seen....
Pierce is the short yards power.
Davis is the best receiver.
Wright can do either well so that keeps the D guessing a little more.
Lingard & Bowman are yet to be seen, but both have obvious raw talent.
I believe than any of them can get the job done most days.
I'm hoping that each is used in the ways that he does best at.
Not in each game, but by the end of the season, I hope that their usage is relatively even.
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Pro Football Focus (PPF) has Emory Jones 6-2 210 rsJr as their highest graded non-RB runner of 2020 at 6.8 ypc.
In 2020 Florida's OL didn't generate much in the way of push in the run game.
That makes these rushing numbers even more impressive in iG's opinion.
QB-dt Emory Jones 6.8 ypc or Anthony Richardson 8.6 ypc
RB/WR Malik Davis 4.7 ypc, 3 runs = 14.1 yds
RB Dameon Pierce 4.7 ypc, 3 runs = 14.1 yds
RB/WR Nay'Quan Wright 3.9 ypc, 3 runs = 11.7 yds
> With 2 additional 5-star RB's (Lingard & Bowman) to add to the quality committee.
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Not all were with the 1st team in Spring, jmoho on how I'd like to see the OL.
"Where's the Beef?"
LT/LG Gourage 6-5 313 rsJr - starter @ LG/LT
LG Harrod 6-5 333 rsSo or LG Leonard 6-2 335 rsFr
OC/LG White 6-5 346 Jr - starter @ LG
RG/RT Reese 6-6 354 - 6th year Grad-Sr - starter
RT/RG Braun 6-6 352 So - starter @ RG
It's still a long way to Sept, so we'll just wait and see how things go at Fall practice.
https://247sports.com/college/flori...-Jones-Ethan-White-Ventrell-Miller-167214409/
In 2020 Florida's OL didn't generate much in the way of push in the run game.
That makes these rushing numbers even more impressive in iG's opinion.
QB-dt Emory Jones 6.8 ypc or Anthony Richardson 8.6 ypc
RB/WR Malik Davis 4.7 ypc, 3 runs = 14.1 yds
RB Dameon Pierce 4.7 ypc, 3 runs = 14.1 yds
RB/WR Nay'Quan Wright 3.9 ypc, 3 runs = 11.7 yds
> With 2 additional 5-star RB's (Lingard & Bowman) to add to the quality committee.
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Not all were with the 1st team in Spring, jmoho on how I'd like to see the OL.
"Where's the Beef?"
LT/LG Gourage 6-5 313 rsJr - starter @ LG/LT
LG Harrod 6-5 333 rsSo or LG Leonard 6-2 335 rsFr
OC/LG White 6-5 346 Jr - starter @ LG
RG/RT Reese 6-6 354 - 6th year Grad-Sr - starter
RT/RG Braun 6-6 352 So - starter @ RG
It's still a long way to Sept, so we'll just wait and see how things go at Fall practice.
https://247sports.com/college/flori...-Jones-Ethan-White-Ventrell-Miller-167214409/
I'm hoping that the RB's do that by committee.
What I hope for EJ and/or AR is that they throw for:
66+% -- Average 12+ Yds/Rec -- With a 5 to 1 TD/Int Ratio....
And that the drives score at an 80+% rate.
I don't want much do I???
But hey, I'd be okay if they just work and play hard, keep their grades up, and stay out of trouble.
Making a 4th consecutive NY-6 Bowl would be nice, especially if they pounded some perpetually over-rated team like the neutered lame.
The Team and the Fans always want an SEC-C and to make the CFP, but only 1/14 SEC-C and only 4/125 in the CFP, so while I'll hope for that, I can live without it. It's just a game after all, so of no 'real' importance to the world at large.
We actually ran the ball very well against Georgia. The supposed #1 defense in the country. We were very balanced in the 1st half having as many running plays as we had passing. The only runs that they consistently stuffed was the trickery stuff we tried to do with Kaderius Toney and I highly suspect they were spying on him every bit as much in the game as they were Kyle Pitts.
I could care less about a NY6 bowl. Just need to start winning the SEC again which means taking care of the East first.I'm hoping that the RB's do that by committee.
What I hope for EJ and/or AR is that they throw for:
66+% -- Average 12+ Yds/Rec -- With a 5 to 1 TD/Int Ratio....
And that the drives score at an 80+% rate.
I don't want much do I???
But hey, I'd be okay if they just work and play hard, keep their grades up, and stay out of trouble.
Making a 4th consecutive NY-6 Bowl would be nice, especially if they pounded some perpetually over-rated team like the neutered lame.
The Team and the Fans always want an SEC-C and to make the CFP, but only 1/14 SEC-C and only 4/125 in the CFP, so while I'll hope for that, I can live without it. It's just a game after all, so of no 'real' importance to the world at large.
Fans that ONLY care about Gator teams winning championships, will spend a big part of their lives being unhappy and disappointed. Tunnel Vision always misses out on the Big Picture covered by college Student/athletes. Each to his own....
Moving right along....
Pro Football Focus names Florida Gators QB Emory Jones to their Preseason All-SEC 3rd team.
1. Matt Corral - MS
2. Myles Brennan - LSU
3. Emory Jones - UF
Note: Bryce Young / UA -- JT Daniels / UGly did not make the Top 3 list....
www.si.com
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UF/Dan now has 4 Elite-11 QB's to train:
Emory Jones
Anthony Richardson
Carlos Del Rio-Wilson
(Kitna may be a nice surprise after it's all said and done)
And soon to be after NSD, Nick Evers
Elite 11 -- Nick Evers began E-11 rated at #21
HS Jr - 2,591 Yds, 25 TD's, 6 Ints.
Nick had an Elite-11 1st day finish sitting at #4.
Nick also had a pretty good 2nd day.
On a grading scale of 1-to-3 for each throw, Evers was one of just 2 QB's to avoid a 1-grade on any pass, meaning each of his throws were at least considered catchable. Evers was one of the most consistent in terms of zip and general accuracy throughout his reps. The final throw of his pro day - one with a murky, back-of-the-endzone window - Evers was one of the only quarterbacks to nail.
He finished the 2nd day with a rating of #8.
Pro Football Focus names Florida Gators QB Emory Jones to their Preseason All-SEC 3rd team.
1. Matt Corral - MS
2. Myles Brennan - LSU
3. Emory Jones - UF
Note: Bryce Young / UA -- JT Daniels / UGly did not make the Top 3 list....
Gators QB Emory Jones Labeled 2021 Preseason All-SEC 3rd Team by PFF
Pro Football Focus named Gators quarterback Emory Jones to their Preseason All-SEC third team. Is this a reasonable expectation for the first year starter or should UF expect more?
UF/Dan now has 4 Elite-11 QB's to train:
Emory Jones
Anthony Richardson
Carlos Del Rio-Wilson
(Kitna may be a nice surprise after it's all said and done)
And soon to be after NSD, Nick Evers
Elite 11 -- Nick Evers began E-11 rated at #21
HS Jr - 2,591 Yds, 25 TD's, 6 Ints.
Nick had an Elite-11 1st day finish sitting at #4.
Nick also had a pretty good 2nd day.
On a grading scale of 1-to-3 for each throw, Evers was one of just 2 QB's to avoid a 1-grade on any pass, meaning each of his throws were at least considered catchable. Evers was one of the most consistent in terms of zip and general accuracy throughout his reps. The final throw of his pro day - one with a murky, back-of-the-endzone window - Evers was one of the only quarterbacks to nail.
He finished the 2nd day with a rating of #8.
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An SEC championship should always be the goal for the Gators. Heck how many did we win under Spurrier and Meyer in how many years. We need to knock Bama out of that position but we have fans like you who think its alright to go 9-3 and play in a non-college football playoff bowl game.
I'd start with the traditional gold standard of Florida football, at least from it's hey day when I was young. Beat Tennessee, Georgia, and FSU just about every year. Start there and MOST Gator fans stay happy. To me that means we need to work first and foremost on snapping Beaver's neck and making sure that the jortgia fans realize he will never get them to that promised national title they all dream they could ever learn how to spell.
Let's put this in perspective folks. We've had 2 truly good coaches in our reasonable lifetimes. Spurrier came here with a completely revolutionary offense when the rest of the SEC was trying desperately to imitate the BIG?? and it's 3 yards and a cloud of dust mentality. Spurrier just moved the ball past them and he had massive immediate success as a result. He also took over a pretty strong program that Charlie Pell had built up, the recruiting and the background in the big money boosters I mean, not the cheating.
Urban Meyer came in with his system in mind on how he wanted to change the establishment and bring back the single wing option game. He is a highly successful game and program manager and you couple that with the fact he came to UF when the SEC was in one of it's worst ever doldrums we have witnessed. Alabama stunk. Georgia stunk. Tennessee had already rolled over and set itself on fire in it's dumpster. And Bobby Bowden had pretty much successfully stayed around long enough to tear down everything he made at FSU. Meyer and Tebow never faced the FSU teams that Spurrier did, nowhere even close so it's obvious they thrived. He was able to essentially do what Spurrier had done before him, only this time he didn't need to completely reinvent the game so much as the rest of the competition wasn't very good competition. Urban inherited a VERY loaded Ron Zook program. Say what you will of the Zooker but he WAS a recruiter. And we had at this point had the established Gator Nation.
Dan Mullen however comes in when the SEC isn't the SEC but is THE SEC. This conference has bragged and boasted that it is far and away the #1 conference in the country for well over a decade now. Power programs were well established that Dan is going up against and keeping the instate recruits instate is no longer a reality in this day and age. Be realistic and let's get competitive. We need to stop talking, at least as fans, about nation championships and focus on getting control back of the East as it should be. 4 out of every 5 years Florida should be winning the East or the East is generally shown itself to be the clown car half of The SEC and at the mercy of the West powerhouses.
Urban Meyer came in with his system in mind on how he wanted to change the establishment and bring back the single wing option game. He is a highly successful game and program manager and you couple that with the fact he came to UF when the SEC was in one of it's worst ever doldrums we have witnessed. Alabama stunk. Georgia stunk. Tennessee had already rolled over and set itself on fire in it's dumpster. And Bobby Bowden had pretty much successfully stayed around long enough to tear down everything he made at FSU. Meyer and Tebow never faced the FSU teams that Spurrier did, nowhere even close so it's obvious they thrived. He was able to essentially do what Spurrier had done before him, only this time he didn't need to completely reinvent the game so much as the rest of the competition wasn't very good competition. Urban inherited a VERY loaded Ron Zook program. Say what you will of the Zooker but he WAS a recruiter. And we had at this point had the established Gator Nation.
Dan Mullen however comes in when the SEC isn't the SEC but is THE SEC. This conference has bragged and boasted that it is far and away the #1 conference in the country for well over a decade now. Power programs were well established that Dan is going up against and keeping the instate recruits instate is no longer a reality in this day and age. Be realistic and let's get competitive. We need to stop talking, at least as fans, about nation championships and focus on getting control back of the East as it should be. 4 out of every 5 years Florida should be winning the East or the East is generally shown itself to be the clown car half of The SEC and at the mercy of the West powerhouses.
The SEC was THE SEC until Saban came in and Bama started buying all the best players and the SEC became Bama and the 13 dwarves. Of course, Bama also made college football Bama and the 120 dwarves, so there's that.
I'm hoping Saban stays a while, I want to see what the NIL does to their purchasing power. I expect Bama recruiting prowess to tail off significantly in the next few years. Georgia too, for that matter, and a few others. Looking forward to it.
JMOHO of course, but pretty good stuff guys...
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As to the feveredbrain's drivel, every teams fans would like a championship every single year, but most of us also realize just how impossible that is for anyone to accomplish, even Saban with the red turds long time payola system in place.
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Every year's goal at UF is: beat Tn, UGly, FSUcks, win the SECe, win the SEC-C, make the 4 team CFP, win the NC.
Then there's the minimum to still call it a good season, which varies from fan to fan.
I've lived through the decades of 'Just wait till next year,' to the 'I sure hope they make a bowl game this year.'
In my lifetime....
Once upon a time, it was a huge deal that they went 8-3 with a Gator Bowl win: 8-3 UF 14 - 13 Tulsa 8-2-1
Their next bowl, also in the Gator Bowl, was a loss: 6-4-1 UF 3 - 7 MS 9-2
Attending my first bowl game as a Gator fan in 1965 for the Ray Graves infamous Sugar Bowl loss to Mizzou:
7-4 UF 18 - 20 Mizzou 8-2-1
Spurrier to Casey for 3 TD's in the 4th quarter, with Graves going for the 2 pt conversion and missing it 0-3,,, jus-damn!
One of the few times that the losing team's QB was named the Bowl's MVP, while his HC was tagged as the loser goat.
Then I lived through the 'Dig Ducky' years....
Through the 1970's, it was pretty easy to get a ticket for any game, while they were going 0-4 in bowls they did make.
Then I was there for Pell's 1st season........... (0-10-1)
And just when things were finally looking up for the Gators, there was the NCAA/SEC PROBATION BS....
On the plus side, for the 1st time as a Gator fan, I managed to attend every home game in 1996....
(I still contend that I was the Gator's NC rabbit foot and should have been given an honorary lifetime season ticket...)
So looking at my time as a Gator fan, I have a very different perspective than some spoiled 'fever cum-lately' twit.
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As to the feveredbrain's drivel, every teams fans would like a championship every single year, but most of us also realize just how impossible that is for anyone to accomplish, even Saban with the red turds long time payola system in place.
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Every year's goal at UF is: beat Tn, UGly, FSUcks, win the SECe, win the SEC-C, make the 4 team CFP, win the NC.
Then there's the minimum to still call it a good season, which varies from fan to fan.
I've lived through the decades of 'Just wait till next year,' to the 'I sure hope they make a bowl game this year.'
In my lifetime....
Once upon a time, it was a huge deal that they went 8-3 with a Gator Bowl win: 8-3 UF 14 - 13 Tulsa 8-2-1
Their next bowl, also in the Gator Bowl, was a loss: 6-4-1 UF 3 - 7 MS 9-2
Attending my first bowl game as a Gator fan in 1965 for the Ray Graves infamous Sugar Bowl loss to Mizzou:
7-4 UF 18 - 20 Mizzou 8-2-1
Spurrier to Casey for 3 TD's in the 4th quarter, with Graves going for the 2 pt conversion and missing it 0-3,,, jus-damn!
One of the few times that the losing team's QB was named the Bowl's MVP, while his HC was tagged as the loser goat.
Then I lived through the 'Dig Ducky' years....
Through the 1970's, it was pretty easy to get a ticket for any game, while they were going 0-4 in bowls they did make.
Then I was there for Pell's 1st season........... (0-10-1)
And just when things were finally looking up for the Gators, there was the NCAA/SEC PROBATION BS....
On the plus side, for the 1st time as a Gator fan, I managed to attend every home game in 1996....
(I still contend that I was the Gator's NC rabbit foot and should have been given an honorary lifetime season ticket...)
So looking at my time as a Gator fan, I have a very different perspective than some spoiled 'fever cum-lately' twit.
Moving right along.....
Florida Gators quarterback commit Nick Evers has been a consistent top performer at the 2021 Elite 11 Finals, finishing in the top ten (of 20) quarterback rankings at Sports Illustrated All-American in three consecutive days.
Evers put together his best performance thus far during the Accuracy Gauntlet on day three, based on our charting. Arguably, the gauntlet was the toughest drill the quarterbacks have taken on at Elite 11, testing not only ball placement skills but also ability under pressure and stamina.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...g-nick-evers-video-elite-11-accuracy-gauntlet
Nick Evers Shines at Elite 11 Accuracy Gauntlet
Florida Gators quarterback commit Nick Evers has been a consistent top performer at the 2021 Elite 11 Finals, finishing in the top ten (of 20) quarterback rankings at Sports Illustrated All-American in three consecutive days.
Evers put together his best performance thus far during the Accuracy Gauntlet on day three, based on our charting. Arguably, the gauntlet was the toughest drill the quarterbacks have taken on at Elite 11, testing not only ball placement skills but also ability under pressure and stamina.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...g-nick-evers-video-elite-11-accuracy-gauntlet
What are we looking at for Todd's 2021 defense?
At the 2nd level:
Coach Christian Robinson LB'ers: (Recruiting per 247)
2019
#4 Ty'Ron Hooper 6-2 197 **** Natl. 88 - Roswell, GA
(#9 Diwun Black 6-3.5 226 **** Natl. 151 - Kissimmee, FL, had to go JuCo)
(#82 Jonathan Greenard 6-4 226 *** - Hiram, GA, UL Grad-Sr xfer-in, now NFL)
2020
#5 Derek Wingo 6-2 210 **** Natl. 64 - Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Xfer-in:
#2 Brenton Cox 6-4 245 ***** Natl. 23 - UGly - Stockbridge, GA
#94 Noah Keeter 6-5 224 *** - UCLA - Gainesville, FL
2021
#5 Jeremiah 'Scooby' Williams 6-3 224 **** Natl. 73 - Birmingham, AL
#36 LB Chief Borders 6-5 242 **** Natl. 306 - Franklin, GA
(#9 Diwun Black 6-3.5 226 **** Natl. 151 Kissimmee, FL, #1 JuCo xfer)
2022
#15 LB Shemar James 6-3 200 **** Natl. 145 - Mobile, AL
Could list more, as the OLB-WDE-BUCK positions are very flexible in Todd's system.
The on the field leader for the 2021 LB's is Ventrell Miller
2020 - He led the team in tackles (88) and added on 3.5 sacks and 7.5 tackles-for-loss...
The run stoppers look to be in a good position for the coming season, behind the improved DL. Now, if the new secondary can play up to their potential, the defense should be markedly better and back to Todd's usual Top 10 defense levels.
At the 2nd level:
Coach Christian Robinson LB'ers: (Recruiting per 247)
2019
#4 Ty'Ron Hooper 6-2 197 **** Natl. 88 - Roswell, GA
(#9 Diwun Black 6-3.5 226 **** Natl. 151 - Kissimmee, FL, had to go JuCo)
(#82 Jonathan Greenard 6-4 226 *** - Hiram, GA, UL Grad-Sr xfer-in, now NFL)
2020
#5 Derek Wingo 6-2 210 **** Natl. 64 - Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Xfer-in:
#2 Brenton Cox 6-4 245 ***** Natl. 23 - UGly - Stockbridge, GA
#94 Noah Keeter 6-5 224 *** - UCLA - Gainesville, FL
2021
#5 Jeremiah 'Scooby' Williams 6-3 224 **** Natl. 73 - Birmingham, AL
#36 LB Chief Borders 6-5 242 **** Natl. 306 - Franklin, GA
(#9 Diwun Black 6-3.5 226 **** Natl. 151 Kissimmee, FL, #1 JuCo xfer)
2022
#15 LB Shemar James 6-3 200 **** Natl. 145 - Mobile, AL
Could list more, as the OLB-WDE-BUCK positions are very flexible in Todd's system.
The on the field leader for the 2021 LB's is Ventrell Miller
2020 - He led the team in tackles (88) and added on 3.5 sacks and 7.5 tackles-for-loss...
The run stoppers look to be in a good position for the coming season, behind the improved DL. Now, if the new secondary can play up to their potential, the defense should be markedly better and back to Todd's usual Top 10 defense levels.
The Elite 11 has named its 12 top quarterbacks (11+1) from the 4-day event, and much like Sports Illustrated All-American's final composite rankings, Florida Gators commit Nick Evers made the cut.
The entire Elite 11 (+1) quarterbacks in the class of 2022:
1. MVP: Cade Klubnik, Clemson commit
2. Drew Allar, Penn State commit
3. Devin Brown, Southern California commit
4. Nick Evers, Florida commit (#1 SEC QB)
5. Quinn Ewers, Ohio State commit
6. Katin Houser, Michigan State commit
7. Walker Howard, LSU commit
8. Maalik Murphy, Texas commit
9. Zach Pyron, Baylor commit
10. Luther Richesson, uncommitted
11. Ty Simpson, Alabama commit
+ 1 Conner Weigman, Texas A&M commit
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ruiting-nick-evers-elite-11-official-rankings
Nick was 4th in the E-11 ranking, but S.I. had him at #3 in their E-11 AA Composite ranking. He finished in the Top 8 at every stage of the competition.
3. Nick Evers (Florida)
Day one ranking: 4
Day two ranking: 8
Day three ranking: 3
The Elite 11 finals have officially come to an end and Florida Gators commit, Flower Mound (Texas) quarterback Nick Evers, was one of the best of the bunch, finishing in 3rd place in Sports Illustrated All-American's Elite 11 rankings out of 20 participants.
SEC QB's E-11 Rankings:
www.si.com
The entire Elite 11 (+1) quarterbacks in the class of 2022:
1. MVP: Cade Klubnik, Clemson commit
2. Drew Allar, Penn State commit
3. Devin Brown, Southern California commit
4. Nick Evers, Florida commit (#1 SEC QB)
5. Quinn Ewers, Ohio State commit
6. Katin Houser, Michigan State commit
7. Walker Howard, LSU commit
8. Maalik Murphy, Texas commit
9. Zach Pyron, Baylor commit
10. Luther Richesson, uncommitted
11. Ty Simpson, Alabama commit
+ 1 Conner Weigman, Texas A&M commit
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ruiting-nick-evers-elite-11-official-rankings
Nick was 4th in the E-11 ranking, but S.I. had him at #3 in their E-11 AA Composite ranking. He finished in the Top 8 at every stage of the competition.
3. Nick Evers (Florida)
Day one ranking: 4
Day two ranking: 8
Day three ranking: 3
The Elite 11 finals have officially come to an end and Florida Gators commit, Flower Mound (Texas) quarterback Nick Evers, was one of the best of the bunch, finishing in 3rd place in Sports Illustrated All-American's Elite 11 rankings out of 20 participants.
SEC QB's E-11 Rankings:
- Nick Evers, Florida commit (4)
- Walker Howard, LSU commit (7)
- Ty Simpson, Alabama commit (11)
- Weigman, Texas A&M commit (12)
Gators Commit Nick Evers Finishes Third in SIAA Elite 11 Rankings
Nick Evers wraps up his time at the Elite 11 Finals in the top-three of Sports Illustrated All-American's composite rankings.
We could compete with Bama every year if we had the recruits. Georgia probably has the recruits to do so but that coach is too conservative on offense.
Not sure what is going to happen with Mullen but he needs to be able to take the next step. This is basically almost all his recruits as starters for the most part unlike the first 3 years.
Last year would have had the fanbase up in arms again if it wasn't for the issues being on defense mostly. A lot easier to take a loss when your team is scoring at least unlike most of the post Meyer years.
Its crazy we haven't won an SECCG in 12 years and have lost the last 4 SECCGs we were in. The East has only won 1 SECCG in the last 12 years.
I don't really want to really debate SOS vs Urb both were great for the program. Both won big. Honestly I give the slight edge to Spurs but Urb had didn't have it easy. Yes FSU was a dynasty when Spurrier was the coach. Yes UT had some hell of some rosters. Spurs usually faced off with some mediocre LSU teams. Urb faced off against some talented LSU teams that were built by Saban and the Hatter kept enough talent around to make them a hard draw. UGA didn't stink. They were putting together one of their best impressive decades in a while. Urban faced off against better UGA teams then Spurrier did. SCar sucked badly for the most part when Spurrier was the coach. Those Brad Scott teams were horrible. Yes Spurrier did have battles against Lou Holtz. Meyer had to battle SCar teams led by Spurrier himself. Auburn was about the same for both. I'd give the 00 Auburn teams the edge over the 90's Auburn teams. It's close but Tuberville was better than Tater Tot Bowden. Spurrier caught Auburn when Tubs was new there. Urban caught Auburn teams that were built up by Tubs.
Spurrier was coaching UF when Miami was hit with probation. Bowden took advantage of that situation better than Spurrier did. Zook caught the brunt of the strong again Miami squads. Meyer was around when Miami was sliding down again and took advantage of the situation.
In summary, Spurrier was around when Bama was strong, Bama later faltered(but he still lost twice to Debose 🤢) Spurrier had to face the FSU dynasties, and some very talented UT teams. Spurrier took on horrible to average SCar teams. Auburn was about even. Spurrier took on mediocre LSU teams. Meyer teams faced off against good UGA and LSU teams. Not so good FSU and UT teams. Meyer beat Miami, Spurrier did not. All that said, I still give the slight edge to Spurrier.
I think Spurrier had it tougher. FSU was an all time powerhouse that just seemed to always blow that one game to keep them from winning a national championship with no playoff and Tennessee was a powerhouse most years not losing much except to us usually and a final top 10 team most of those years.
Meyer didn't have that big of a hill to climb except maybe in 08 and 09 I would say.
Curious to see how many pre-bowl wins over top 10 teams (ranking just before the team's bowl game) they had each season. Might go look that up.
Meyer didn't have that big of a hill to climb except maybe in 08 and 09 I would say.
Curious to see how many pre-bowl wins over top 10 teams (ranking just before the team's bowl game) they had each season. Might go look that up.
Looked up the AP rankings pre-bowl games and decided to use the top 12 wins instead of top 10 to see what the coaches faced through the conference championship games.
Meyer
05: # 8 Georgia and # 10 LSU
06: # 4 LSU, # 10 Auburn and # 12 Arkansas
07: # 2 LSU and # 4 Georgia
08: # 4 Bama
09: # 1 Bama
10: # 11 LSU
08, 09 and 10 surprised me with only one top 12 team those years.
Spurrier
90: #6 FSU and # 10 Tennessee
91: # 5 FSU, # 8 Bama and # 10 Tennessee
92: # 2 Bama, # 3 FSU and # 8 Georgia
93: # 1 FSU, # 5 Auburn and # 6 Tennessee
94: # 6 Bama, # 7 FSU and # 9 Auburn
95: # 4 Tennessee and # 8 FSU
96: # 1 FSU and # 9 Tennessee
97: # 3 Tennessee, # 4 FSU and # 12 Georgia
98: # 1 Tennessee and # 2 FSU
99: # 1 FSU, # 5 Bama and # 6 Tennessee
00: # 3 FSU
01: # 8 Tennessee and # 12 LSU
Meyer
05: # 8 Georgia and # 10 LSU
06: # 4 LSU, # 10 Auburn and # 12 Arkansas
07: # 2 LSU and # 4 Georgia
08: # 4 Bama
09: # 1 Bama
10: # 11 LSU
08, 09 and 10 surprised me with only one top 12 team those years.
Spurrier
90: #6 FSU and # 10 Tennessee
91: # 5 FSU, # 8 Bama and # 10 Tennessee
92: # 2 Bama, # 3 FSU and # 8 Georgia
93: # 1 FSU, # 5 Auburn and # 6 Tennessee
94: # 6 Bama, # 7 FSU and # 9 Auburn
95: # 4 Tennessee and # 8 FSU
96: # 1 FSU and # 9 Tennessee
97: # 3 Tennessee, # 4 FSU and # 12 Georgia
98: # 1 Tennessee and # 2 FSU
99: # 1 FSU, # 5 Bama and # 6 Tennessee
00: # 3 FSU
01: # 8 Tennessee and # 12 LSU
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Guessing how the CB & STAR positions will shake out in 2021.... (247 Rankings)
#6 CB Kaiir Elam 6-2 195 Jr
#3 CB JuCo Jadarrius Perkins 6-2 185 Jr - MS-GC JuCo, Mizz xfer
#32 CB Jaydon Hill 6-0 190 Jr
#2 CB Jason Marshall 6-0 191 Fr
#24 CB/STAR Avery Helm - 6-1 174 4.3/40, V=40" rsFr
#8 CB/STAR Jahari Rogers 5-11 184 rsFr
Note: Several of the safeties could also fill the STAR role.
#12 CB Ethan Pouncey 6-1 165 rsFr
#30 CB Jordan Young 6-0 189 Fr
NR CB Patrick Moorer 6-1 166 rsSr
Other guesses?
#6 CB Kaiir Elam 6-2 195 Jr
#3 CB JuCo Jadarrius Perkins 6-2 185 Jr - MS-GC JuCo, Mizz xfer
#32 CB Jaydon Hill 6-0 190 Jr
#2 CB Jason Marshall 6-0 191 Fr
#24 CB/STAR Avery Helm - 6-1 174 4.3/40, V=40" rsFr
#8 CB/STAR Jahari Rogers 5-11 184 rsFr
Note: Several of the safeties could also fill the STAR role.
#12 CB Ethan Pouncey 6-1 165 rsFr
#30 CB Jordan Young 6-0 189 Fr
NR CB Patrick Moorer 6-1 166 rsSr
Other guesses?
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