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What changes need to be made?

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What changes need to be made?

I would start with making Richardson the starter in the Vandy game to get experience before the LSU game.

I want Grantham gone also but we shouldn't be losing to a team like this when their offense only scores 14 points.

I was scared that Bama game was going to screw us in winning the East this season even if we did beat Georgia head to head.
 
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The easy answer is to say for Grantham to be gone, but I'm having serious doubts about Mullen as well.

I mean, what exactly does he bring to the table? His play-calling has been called predictable, even by fans of opposing teams. He has made questionable choices in making Emory the starter and retaining Grantham.

I mean, I get it. I do. He was the best option for an available HC at the time we were searching. However, the best option at one point in time doesn't it's going to be a great hire for UF standards.

He won the division...big whoop...thats not a high standard. Not for UF

So, for the life of me, I can't think of any on-field performance pros.

If uf doesn't win the conference in the next two years, than we should let him go.

If the divisions aren't overhauled and we get OU in the East....I don't even think UF will even win the division with Mullen
 
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The easy answer is to say for Grantham to be gone, but I'm having serious doubts about Mullen as well.

I mean, what exactly does he bring to the table? His play-calling has been called predictable, even by fans of opposing teams. He has made questionable choices in making Emory the starter and retaining Grantham.

I mean, I get it. I do. He was the best option for an available HC at the time we were searching. However, the best option at one point in time doesn't it's going to be a great hire for UF standards.

He won the division...big whoop...thats not a high standard. Not for UF

So, for the life of me, I can't think of any on-field performance pros.

If uf doesn't win the conference in the next two years, than we should let him go.

If the divisions aren't overhauled and we get OU in the East....I don't even think UF will even win the division with Mullen
No, just no. Mullen's a good coach. Have you looked around this state? 😂 But he's seriously got to get Belichick tougher or the heat is going to get a lot warmer...........particularly when even Stevie Wonder can see what two of his biggest problems are. He's going to have to ditch the blind loyalty card to friends and hangers on in the system. There it is.
 
No, just no. Mullen's a good coach. Have you looked around this state? 😂 But he's seriously got to get Belichick tougher or the heat is going to get a lot warmer...........particularly when even Stevie Wonder can see what two of his biggest problems are. He's going to have to ditch the blind loyalty card to friends and hangers on in the system. There it is.

Good coach doesn't cut it in the SEC. Mark Richt was a good coach and we know how that went.

I'm not holding out hope that he's gonna transform to a Belichick...or a Saban. He is who he is. Even if he got rid of the loyalty to Grantham it doesn't mean his next choice would be better. As hard as it is to believe, it could be worse.

Urban Meyer didn't change from barney fife to a Harry Callahan, neither did Spurrier. Coaches don't change. Even Lane "Get your popcorn ready" Kiffen proved that failing don't change coaches overall. You either got it or you don't.
 
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Good coach doesn't cut it in the SEC. Mark Richt was a good coach and we know how that went.

I'm not holding out hope that he's gonna transform to a Belichick...or a Saban. He is who he is. Even if he got rid of the loyalty to Grantham it doesn't mean his next choice would be better. As hard as it is to believe, it could be worse.

Urban Meyer didn't change from barney fife to a Harry Callahan, neither did Spurrier. Coaches don't change. Even Lane "Get your popcorn ready" Kiffen proved that failing don't change coaches overall. You either got it or you don't.
LOL......I cracked up with the "get your popcorn ready" when I heard that today. 😂 Kiffen needs to learn you need more than just a mere handful of superstars in a 22 man game. Bama pushed in Ole Piss's shit on the line of scrimmage.
 
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They were way too nonchalant tonight. Had a chance to get points at the end of the 1st half and just ran the clock out instead. Jones takes too much time after they lineup with all his claps and double claps. The O-line was out of sync all night and they should have made some type of adjustment to go to a faster snap count. To me, Mullen is a solid coach who will win 7, 8, 9 games every year, but he's not recruiting the elite players you need now to be a regular title contender. There is no excuse for losing to Kentucky, though. The Wildcats were more focused, more fired up and way more physical in the trenches.
 
They were way too nonchalant tonight. Had a chance to get points at the end of the 1st half and just ran the clock out instead. Jones takes too much time after they lineup with all his claps and double claps. The O-line was out of sync all night and they should have made some type of adjustment to go to a faster snap count. To me, Mullen is a solid coach who will win 7, 8, 9 games every year, but he's not recruiting the elite players you need now to be a regular title contender. There is no excuse for losing to Kentucky, though. The Wildcats were more focused, more fired up and way more physical in the trenches.
The false starts are inexcusable. That is on the QB AND coaching. Just snap the effing ball on a quick count in that noise. That's not rocket science. I'm just going to lay it out there. I'm glad we've got a competent back up QB in Emory Jones, and leave it at that.

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They were way too nonchalant tonight. Had a chance to get points at the end of the 1st half and just ran the clock out instead. Jones takes too much time after they lineup with all his claps and double claps. The O-line was out of sync all night and they should have made some type of adjustment to go to a faster snap count. To me, Mullen is a solid coach who will win 7, 8, 9 games every year, but he's not recruiting the elite players you need now to be a regular title contender. There is no excuse for losing to Kentucky, though. The Wildcats were more focused, more fired up and way more physical in the trenches.
ditto
 
You just have to play AR15 more. I dont even care if he doesnt officially start. You put him in the 2nd series and roll for as long as you can.

Playing him more and playing Emory less in a game where your talent is light years better will not hurt recruiting. Hell it helps recruiting. It shows that you started the experienced guy 5 games but it didnt work out. You gave him the chance, it didnt work out, you tried the next guy.

Hell IMO it would hurt recruiting to not give Richardson most of the snaps. It shows that although you might be an exciting talented player, you dont have a chance at more playing time due to tenure and loyalty.

Hell if I was a recruit or a parent of a recruit, I'd be scared to commit to a program that wouldn't try new things when you are not playing to the teams potential.
 
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You have one. Just not sure why he isn't playing
I think we do but we will have to see I guess. It will be interesting to see how Coach Mullen handles this. I am assuming he will be hard headed and start Jones against Vandy. Then we may catch a down LSU team that may be playing for their coaches job if they haven't lost @ Kentucky. I think a loss @ LSU would force the change.
 
Changing QBs isn’t the answer either. Jones is average at best for sure but AR is like Cam right now early on at UF. Struggles with reading defenses and can’t throw the intermediate routes. At least I haven’t seen him hit one yet. We aren’t playing USF or FAU either.
 
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If we can't handle the crowd in Lexington, just imagine the crowd in Baton Rouge. I see us losing there and getting run out of Jacksonville by Georgia. We should win the rest of our games and finish 8-4. Not acceptable, IMO.
 
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Changing QBs isn’t the answer either. Jones is average at best for sure but AR is like Cam right now early on at UF. Struggles with reading defenses and can’t throw the intermediate routes. At least I haven’t seen him hit one yet. We aren’t playing USF or FAU either.
Not going to judge him on one pass myself. We at least have seen nice deep passes. If Mullen is going to do it he needs to do it now with Vandy. Letting him take over @ LSU if we are struggling wouldn't be ideal even with their situation.
 
Not going to judge him on one pass myself. We at least have seen nice deep passes. If Mullen is going to do it he needs to do it now with Vandy. Letting him take over @ LSU if we are struggling wouldn't be ideal even with their situation.
You can’t throw a deep pass on every single play. And again we aren’t playing USF or FAUs anymore either. Game tape is also readily available on him now. He very much reminds me of a young Cam Newton at UF and can’t read a defense at this time.
Don’t forget that at one point in the game last night Emory was like 11 of 12 passing. Emory wasn’t the reason we lost last night IMO.
 
In the last 6 games against power five opponents the Gators are 1-5.
The program really isn’t where we think it is. Dan isn’t the wonder coach miracle worker. We are and have been a middle tier conference program for 10 plus years.
 
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You can’t throw a deep pass on every single play. And again we aren’t playing USF or FAUs anymore either. Game tape is also readily available on him now. He very much reminds me of a young Cam Newton at UF and can’t read a defense at this time.
Don’t forget that at one point in the game last night Emory was like 11 of 12 passing. Emory wasn’t the reason we lost last night IMO.
Emory is too limited. A lot of QBs can get numbers like that with those types of passes but not finish drives off. We need a QB that can overcome the chains being backed up. Don't know what Richardson would do for sure but I do know Mullen has a history of sticking with the more experienced guy. Maybe Doering was just talking.mess but he said the offense looked better with Richardson in there when he watched the scrimmages this season.
 
In the last 6 games against power five opponents the Gators are 1-5.
The program really isn’t where we think it is. Dan isn’t the wonder coach miracle worker. We are and have been a middle tier conference program for 10 plus years.
Two losses to Bama, one loss to LSU, one loss to OU and the loss to UK last night. Three of those losses are by one touchdown or less, the other was a game where 90% of our offense sat out, and of course, three of those games were against the teams that have won the last two national titles. Last night was a bad loss, but don't give me this doom and gloom crap, we are competitive with the best teams in the country. It took Dabo a while to get over the hump as well. We can't all just buy the best players like Bama and Georgia do, well, I take that back, with NIL maybe we can, moving forward, anyway.
 
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We have new staring/playing QB’s who are a little inconsistent and shaky…name a team other that Bama who doesn’t go through those types of growing pains….

Look, losing to KY is extremely disappointing, of course,…but seriously, if we call a different series of 4 plays after the face mask penalty at the end, it’s likely everybody is singing a different tune this morning….sadgator’s honestly not so sure that the “problem” wasn’t just some poor end of game play selection…nothing more or less….

Florida has a great coach…but sometimes you just lose games…not sure there is that much more to read into it than that…

And college football has always been this way, FYI…you either win the big prize or the ending of the season sucks…everybody needs to put on their big boy pants and just enjoy the ride for what it is…
 
Changing QBs isn’t the answer either. We aren’t playing USF or FAU either.
No we are not. We are playing Vanderbilt. They went to the wire with UConn. I believe FAU and USF would beat Vandy. Put him in vs Vandy and let's see what happens.

Edit: and oh if there was ever a time to try a new QB vs LSU this is the year. Bo Nix...aka Bi Pix beat LSU. You can't tell me Richardson is not able to.
 
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Two losses to Bama, one loss to LSU, one loss to OU and the loss to UK last night. Three of those losses are by one touchdown or less, the other was a game where 90% of our offense sat out, and of course, three of those games were against the teams that have won the last two national titles. Last night was a bad loss, but don't give me this doom and gloom crap, we are competitive with the best teams in the country. It took Dabo a while to get over the hump as well. We can't all just buy the best players like Bama and Georgia do, well, I take that back, with NIL maybe we can, moving forward, anyway.
If you think Dan Mullen can pull a Clemson Dabo against the teams Florida has to play week in and week out we will agree to disagree.
 
why did Mullen go into halftime with 3 TO's in his pocket when the team was driving and only up 3 and UK getting the ball in the second half? WHY WHY WHY?!
 
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We have new staring/playing QB’s who are a little inconsistent and shaky…name a team other that Bama who doesn’t go through those types of growing pains….

Look, losing to KY is extremely disappointing, of course,…but seriously, if we call a different series of 4 plays after the face mask penalty at the end, it’s likely everybody is singing a different tune this morning….sadgator’s honestly not so sure that the “problem” wasn’t just some poor end of game play selection…nothing more or less….

Florida has a great coach…but sometimes you just lose games…not sure there is that much more to read into it than that…

And college football has always been this way, FYI…you either win the big prize or the ending of the season sucks…everybody needs to put on their big boy pants and just enjoy the ride for what it is…

The jury is still out on the great coach thing but because we have an offense now he is getting more time than the other coaches that never won the SEC. This isn't a low expectations school however and its why a Coach O at LSU could be fired 2 years after winning a national championship. I am still holding out hope Richardson comes in and makes us legit national championship contenders next season.
 
I'm still holding out very little hope that USCw comes calling for Mullen. Maybe it's just me, but Mullen looks like he's ready for a change himself, especially with the NFL rumors late last season.

Speaking of changes, a new president, and a new AD would be a great start to possibly bring in Mario Cristobal or Joe Brady.
 
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I guess Mullen was asked about the halftime running the clock out and he said the team needed to be settled down at that point or something similar to that. For a guy that goes for it so much on 4th down that makes no sense.
 
Mullen is 32-11 and 20-9 in the conference so far. That's probably better than all but 3 SEC teams during the past 3.5 seasons.
 
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Mullen is 32-11 and 20-9 in the conference so far. That's probably better than all but 3 SEC teams during the past 3.5 seasons.
True, but Mullen was supposed to make us better than the 4th best team in the SEC. Georgia and Alabama are outrecruiting us big time and I think last year's class was only the 7th best in the conference and this year's recruiting class right now is ranked #16 in the nation. That ain't good enough, IMO. He simply isn't bringing in enough elite players to make us an elite team and you can't cover the substandard (by SEC standards) recruiting by getting 2 or 3 guys from the transfer portal every year. He was hired and paid huge $$$ to bring us back to the glory years of Spurrier and Meyer. This is his 4th year and it just doesn't seem to be happening.
 
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