What a shock! House Republicans battle over budget bill

[Orangeclad]

I am so sick and tired of this continuing saga of rebel Republicans. Those A-holes must think we have a 40 seat majority. This crap never ends.

Trump budget bill hits the rocks with GOP rebels, tax hawks ahead of key vote

House Republicans are giving a lukewarm reception to a new 45-page resolution meant to act as a framework for a massive bill to enact President Donald Trump's agenda.

www.foxnews.com

 

[jb1215]

I am so sick and tired of this continuing saga of rebel Republicans. Those A-holes must think we have a 40 seat majority. This crap never ends.

Trump budget bill hits the rocks with GOP rebels, tax hawks ahead of key vote

House Republicans are giving a lukewarm reception to a new 45-page resolution meant to act as a framework for a massive bill to enact President Donald Trump's agenda.

www.foxnews.com

Agreed. They are political animals to their core. Complete idiots.

 

[treygator29]

Trump has completely changed the Republican Party. People who call themselves republicans these days are much more like Trump than they are establishment Republicans. They need to adapt or get left behind. Plenty of those establishment R’s need to go

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Trump has completely changed the Republican Party. People who call themselves republicans these days are much more like Trump than they are establishment Republicans. They need to adapt or get left behind. Plenty of those establishment R’s need to go

He got rid of many, and we will purge the rest with continued success of his policies

 

[kalimgoodman]

I am so sick and tired of this continuing saga of rebel Republicans. Those A-holes must think we have a 40 seat majority. This crap never ends.

Trump budget bill hits the rocks with GOP rebels, tax hawks ahead of key vote

House Republicans are giving a lukewarm reception to a new 45-page resolution meant to act as a framework for a massive bill to enact President Donald Trump's agenda.

www.foxnews.com

They all represent different areas and people. Nobody should be a puppet or do whatever is asked of the party. Like I know Chip Roy will be tough on everyone. It is not being a rebel, just standing for something.

 

[NavigatorII]

They all represent different areas and people. Nobody should be a puppet or do whatever is asked of the party. Like I know Chip Roy will be tough on everyone. It is not being a rebel, just standing for something.

😂

 

[treygator29]

😂

I think I see @Mdfgator back there

 

[kalimgoodman]

😂

You guys literally get mad at people that oppose Trump. You really can't say anything.

 

[treygator29]

You guys literally get mad at people that oppose Trump. You really can't say anything.

I think it has more to do with being tired of being called names and told we are terrible people when we won’t pretend boys who want to be girls are actually girls.

And being called racist when we think people should be judged on their merit and not their skin color. Stuff like that

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I think it has more to do with being tired of being called names and told we are terrible people when we won’t pretend boys who want to be girls are actually girls.

And being called racist when we think people should be judged on their merit and not their skin color. Stuff like that

BRAVO!! WELL SAID!!

 

[kalimgoodman]

I think it has more to do with being tired of being called names and told we are terrible people when we won’t pretend boys who want to be girls are actually girls.

And being called racist when we think people should be judged on their merit and not their skin color. Stuff like that

I am talking about how you guys react to follow Rs that vote against Trump. You guys threatened to "primary" people for having a voice. You guys believe that their voice should ONLY support the Trump agenda.

 

[treygator29]

I am talking about how you guys react to follow Rs that vote against Trump. You guys threatened to "primary" people for having a voice. You guys believe that their voice should ONLY support the Trump agenda.

It’s definitely safe to say the Republican Party is changing as well. If it’s supporting the Trump agenda so be it. I can only speak for myself, and I’m just happy people are uncovering the corruption we’ve known happens for so long and I’m happy someone is finally standing up and calling Dems on their ridiculous bullshit.

For far too long common sense has been ridiculed and abandoned for people’s feelings. And if that’s part of the “Trump agenda” so be it.

 

[kalimgoodman]

It’s definitely safe to say the Republican Party is changing as well. If it’s supporting the Trump agenda so be it. I can only speak for myself, and I’m just happy people are uncovering the corruption we’ve known happens for so long and I’m happy someone is finally standing up and calling Dems on their ridiculous bullshit.

For far too long common sense has been ridiculed and abandoned for people’s feelings. And if that’s part of the “Trump agenda” so be it.

Obama literally tried to do the same about corruption and faced backlash from the right. Clinton did the same thing as well. I love seeing how people are proven to be FOS. I have no issues with what Trump is trying to do with DOGE. I just question if he is only considering things corrupted based on his political beliefs/friendships, i.e. how much Musk is making off government contracts. Will they audit his contracts as well?

I am not singling you out. I was just making a general observation about what I see. Yes, Trump can be the leader of the party but the people in congress got elected too. They have a voice and shouldn't be afraid to use it, IMO.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think it has more to do with being tired of being called names and told we are terrible people when we won’t pretend boys who want to be girls are actually girls.

And being called racist when we think people should be judged on their merit and not their skin color. Stuff like that

So basically we are tired of the terrible racists calling us terrible racists. Got it.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Obama literally tried to do the same about corruption and faced backlash from the right. Clinton did the same thing as well. I love seeing how people are proven to be FOS.

You're so close.

What makes it different now is BOTH the left AND right are attacking Trump trying to remove corruption.

What does that LOGICALLY tell us?

That it was all a show when the dems said they wanted to stop corruption. It's real with Trump....that's why BOTH sides are fighting him.

 

[treygator29]

Obama literally tried to do the same about corruption and faced backlash from the right. Clinton did the same thing as well. I love seeing how people are proven to be FOS. I have no issues with what Trump is trying to do with DOGE. I just question if he is only considering things corrupted based on his political beliefs/friendships, i.e. how much Musk is making off government contracts. Will they audit his contracts as well?

I am not singling you out. I was just making a general observation about what I see. Yes, Trump can be the leader of the party but the people in congress got elected too. They have a voice and shouldn't be afraid to use it, IMO.

I know you’re not singling me out.

I don’t remember Obama having anything remotely like DOGE

 

[kalimgoodman]

I know you’re not singling me out.

I don’t remember Obama having anything remotely like DOGE

Well turn on Fox news because they are literally highlighting it as a reason as to why Trump can get away with DOGE. Now Obama never gave unlimited access to someone not confirmed by FBI or in this manner but when he wanted to cut waste, he was 100000% resisted by the Rs. Politics is such a game, it is sad and pathetic to me.

 

[treygator29]

Well turn on Fox news because they are literally highlighting it as a reason as to why Trump can get away with DOGE. Now Obama never gave unlimited access to someone not confirmed by FBI or in this manner but when he wanted to cut waste, he was 100000% resisted by the Rs. Politics is such a game, it is sad and pathetic to me.

I also just saw two former Obama staffers on a podcast talking about how they’re frustrated they didn’t get a chance to do something like DOGE and that they didn’t know they could cut all the waste like Trump is. So there’s that

 

[treygator29]

 

[treygator29]

Doesn’t mention anything about Republicans blocking them from doing it

 

[kalimgoodman]

I also just saw two former Obama staffers on a podcast talking about how they’re frustrated they didn’t get a chance to do something like DOGE and that they didn’t know they could cut all the waste like Trump is. So there’s that

Like I said, I have no issues with DOGE. My personal issue is that Musk shouldn't be doing it. He has billion worth of contracts with government. It should've been Ryan, Vivek and Roy but Obama was challenged because he did via EO and the Rs hated EOs under Obama, now they love them. YES, the Dems were the same. That's why I said that politics is a joke. They all flip flop depending on who has the power.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I know you’re not singling me out.

I don’t remember Obama having anything remotely like DOGE

Did @kalimgoodman ever source his claim that obama wanted to cut corruption? Or was it 'Trust me, bro"?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

YES, the Dems were the same. That's why I said that politics is a joke. They all flip flop depending on who has the power.

Correct. Both dems and pubs have always been united in fighting Trump's attempts to stop corruption.

What does that tell you?

 

[grandhavendiddy]

He got rid of many, and we will purge the rest with continued success of his policies

This. House Republicans need to be supporting the success, not getting into individual ego / priority wars.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

Correct. Both dems and pubs have always been united in fighting Trump's attempts to stop corruption.

What does that tell you?

Good one

 

[Capt Ron 1]

This. House Republicans need to be supporting the success, not getting into individual ego / priority wars.

I think for a while they have no choice. It depends on who wins the information war about what Trump is doing for how long he will win. I think a better job needs to be done about informing the public about the waste and fraud they are finding. They are not doing bad...but could do better. With success comes strength to do his job

 

[grandhavendiddy]

Like I said, I have no issues with DOGE. My personal issue is that Musk shouldn't be doing it. He has billion worth of contracts with government. It should've been Ryan, Vivek and Roy but Obama was challenged because he did via EO and the Rs hated EOs under Obama, now they love them. YES, the Dems were the same. That's why I said that politics is a joke. They all flip flop depending on who has the power.

Great on DOGE.

Musk is uniquely qualified as he knows how to cut through the bureaucracy and achieve incredible things at Scale. He has done 1,000x more than, for example what Vivek has done.

He does have significant conflicts of interest and should declare them and abstain from any decisions around them (e.g. Starlink).

Agreed on EOs.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

I think for a while they have no choice. It depends on who wins the information war about what Trump is doing for how long he will win. I think a better job needs to be done about informing the public about the waste and fraud they are finding. They are not doing bad...but could do better. With success comes strength to do his job

I fully agree on the need to "bring the receipts".

 

[BCSpell]

I think it has more to do with being tired of being called names and told we are terrible people when we won’t pretend boys who want to be girls are actually girls.

And being called racist when we think people should be judged on their merit and not their skin color. Stuff like that

And I guess kalim never considered that TRUMP is actually doing the things that WE, or at least some of us, want done (security border, lower taxes, smaller government, etc.), so yes, we would naturally be against the people who are trying to stop him or at least make it difficult.

 

[BCSpell]

You're so close.

What makes it different now is BOTH the left AND right are attacking Trump trying to remove corruption.

What does that LOGICALLY tell us?

That it was all a show when the dems said they wanted to stop corruption. It's real with Trump....that's why BOTH sides are fighting him.

AND, I do not remember 1 thing (I am sure kalim will come back and tell us exactly what each one did) that either Clinton or Obama actually did to find and end government corruption. The same Presidents who became millionaires while in Government Office.

 

[treygator29]

And I guess kalim never considered that TRUMP is actually doing the things that WE, or at least some of us, want done (security border, lower taxes, smaller government, etc.), so yes, we would naturally be against the people who are trying to stop him or at least make it difficult.

I don’t mind exchanging with @kalimgoodman. You can at least talk to him and he will listen to you without getting emotional. I can tell I’m talking to an adult

 

[kalimgoodman]

Great on DOGE.

Musk is uniquely qualified as he knows how to cut through the bureaucracy and achieve incredible things at Scale. He has done 1,000x more than, for example what Vivek has done.

He does have significant conflicts of interest and should declare them and abstain from any decisions around them (e.g. Starlink).

Agreed on EOs.

Musk has too many government contracts to be involved. A big part of his wealth was through those contracts. He is the definition of conflict of interest.

 

[kalimgoodman]

AND, I do not remember 1 thing (I am sure kalim will come back and tell us exactly what each one did) that either Clinton or Obama actually did to find and end government corruption. The same Presidents who became millionaires while in Government Office.

Trump is also growing his wealth from being president. People are donating to his "president inauguration". They all make money off being president, pay attention!

And I guess kalim never considered that TRUMP is actually doing the things that WE, or at least some of us, want done (security border, lower taxes, smaller government, etc.), so yes, we would naturally be against the people who are trying to stop him or at least make it difficult.

That is fair that you like Trump and support Trump policies but the constitution doesn't tell congress to do whatever the President says. They have that right to object to his/her demands. My point is, to call Dems "sheep" when they blindly support a Dem president but not call Rs "sheep" when blindly support Rs, is funny. Reality is that you like "sheeps" when it's for policy you like.

 

[kalimgoodman]

I don’t mind exchanging with @kalimgoodman. You can at least talk to him and he will listen to you without getting emotional. I can tell I’m talking to an adult

Well thanks, You do too.

 

[grandhavendiddy]

Musk has too many government contracts to be involved. A big part of his wealth was through those contracts. He is the definition of conflict of interest.

That is not actually accurate. He made his money through Pay Pal and then 75% through Tesla. If anything (read: EV summit last summer), the government has NOT been supporting him, unless you view Newsome's EV mandate, putatively as a measure against climate change, as a giveaway to Tesla.

Now his FUTURE wealth will come from when SpaceX (and Starlink) goes public, but until then, he made his wealth through Tesla, Pay Pal and angel round/seed investments in companies like Uber.

 

[kalimgoodman]

That is not actually accurate. He made his money through Pay Pal and then 75% through Tesla. If anything (read: EV summit last summer), the government has NOT been supporting him, unless you view Newsome's EV mandate, putatively as a measure against climate change, as a giveaway to Tesla.

Now his FUTURE wealth will come from when SpaceX (and Starlink) goes public, but until then, he made his wealth through Tesla, Pay Pal and angel round/seed investments in companies like Uber.

The federal government has paid SpaceX some $20 billion since 2008. He also was given a 400+ loan under Obama. All of that led to him increasing his net worth. He wants to be a trillionaire, so don't sleep on him not finding out ways to make money out of this.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

That is not actually accurate. He made his money through Pay Pal and then 75% through Tesla. If anything (read: EV summit last summer), the government has NOT been supporting him, unless you view Newsome's EV mandate, putatively as a measure against climate change, as a giveaway to Tesla.

Now his FUTURE wealth will come from when SpaceX (and Starlink) goes public, but until then, he made his wealth through Tesla, Pay Pal and angel round/seed investments in companies like Uber.

The millennials on Reddit are runnin with this same talkin point: They think two of the richest men on the planet are auditing the government to STEAL MONEY!

Elon is doing DOGE for free. Richest man in the world, and he's literally sleeping on the floor working 20 hours a day.

Trump is doing the same thin.

Neither of them taking a salary.

Both men are heroes.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

The millennials on Reddit are runnin with this same talkin point: They think two of the richest men on the planet are auditing the government to STEAL MONEY!

Elon is doing DOGE for free. Richest man in the world, and he's literally sleeping on the floor working 20 hours a day.

Trump is doing the same thin.

Neither of them taking a salary.

Both men are heroes.

Soros likewise isn't about the money. He has claimed he is a god. He wants to make the world in his image.

Maybe Trump, Musk and Gates are similar in trying to make the world a "better place" as they would see it.

All are flawed individuals that we should not fully trust.

Well S@r@s is evil and Gates is a nerdy buffoon and shouldn't be trusted at all.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Soros likewise isn't about the money. He has claimed he is a god. He wants to make the world in his image.

Maybe Trump, Musk and Gates are similar in trying to make the world a "better place" as they would see it.

All are flawed individuals that we should not fully trust.

Well S@r@s is evil and Gates is a nerdy buffoon and shouldn't be trusted at all.

I heard a podcast with Kat Kerr recently. She is part of a team of Christian leaders who have been ministering to Trump the last few years. She said Elon now has his own dedicated prayer team as well.

She said she talks or texts with Trump every day. She said Trump texted her 20 mins before he took the stage in Butler, PA. He texted 'What do I need to know?" which she knew to mean 'What has God told you that I need to tell the people?"

She texted him back "God says no matter what happens today, don't let fear interfere in your life, you will not die"

She says that's why he sprung up like he did shaking his fists saying FIght fight FIGHT!

I don't think most people appreciate how much closer he has gotten to God the last few years. I've heard multiple Christian leaders say they didn't support Trump at all, but then they got to know him and now understand that he is much closer to God than they realized.

Does any of this mean Trump or Elon are model Christians? Of course not. But both are being exposed to Him and His word daily. All you have to do is listen to what Trump says now vs 2016. Now he reguarly gives glory to God and acknowledges Him in a way he didn't do in 2016.

God is at the heart of this administration in a way I don't think any other presidency has seen.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I heard a podcast with Kat Kerr recently. She is part of a team of Christian leaders who have been ministering to Trump the last few years. She said Elon now has his own dedicated prayer team as well.

She said she talks or texts with Trump every day. She said Trump texted her 20 mins before he took the stage in Butler, PA. He texted 'What do I need to know?" which she knew to mean 'What has God told you that I need to tell the people?"

She texted him back "God says no matter what happens today, don't let fear interfere in your life, you will not die"

She says that's why he sprung up like he did shaking his fists saying FIght fight FIGHT!

I don't think most people appreciate how much closer he has gotten to God the last few years. I've heard multiple Christian leaders say they didn't support Trump at all, but then they got to know him and now understand that he is much closer to God than they realized.

Does any of this mean Trump or Elon are model Christians? Of course not. But both are being exposed to Him and His word daily. All you have to do is listen to what Trump says now vs 2016. Now he reguarly gives glory to God and acknowledges Him in a way he didn't do in 2016.

God is at the heart of this administration in a way I don't think any other presidency has seen.

Lets hope this leads to the salvation of both men.