...you might not have him much longer to kick around.
Florida assistant a candidate for UCF head coaching job
Florida assistant a candidate for UCF head coaching job
Welp, for those of you that hate Collins...
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Already a thread on this.
http://florida.forums.rivals.com/threads/coaching-carousel.25349/#post-436253
http://florida.forums.rivals.com/threads/coaching-carousel.25349/#post-436253
Uh, huh. And how were M.J. & others expected to know that? Do you--and djegators--really expect M.J. to hold back any thread he wants to start, until after opening each & every thread in the "Gator Sports Forum", to determine if maybe--just maybe--it mentions his topic, e.g.: Gator coach Collins? H@ll, there's even a thread in the forum whose title mentions an unfamiliar name, who turns out to be a
The thread that you've notified M.J. of is titled just "Coaching Carousel": When I see it, I think "no thanks, I believe we're all plenty happy with how McElwain is turning out in his 1st year coaching the Gators". So don't be surprised if most regulars here assume from the title that it's most likely a Miami--and maybe UCF--thread. And decide "meh--maybe I'll take a look at it mañana".
For us regulars without exalted status here, participation is just recreation. "Due diligence" in avoiding duplicate threads ought not require any more effort than skimming thread titles already shown in the forum. When original-posters are unable or unwilling to devise informative titles, the blame for later duplicate threads belongs on them.
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Note #: Well, I did already make a point of his "unfamiliar name", and he doesn't play in any Power-5 conference, but in the American Athletic--or is it the Athletic American--Conference, competing against teams like (ahem) UCF.
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lol
Then since this is a Gator board. We should have only one thread discussing all things Gator!
I agree[*].
The only UCF -local sports-talk radio host I know of who's a UCF alum: Scott Anez, insists that any & all defensive-minded coaches should be rejected as candidates for the head football coach opening at UCF. His reasoning is that UCF needs to be able to routinely sell out the only-44,206-seats of its on-campus stadium, and doing so will require fireworks on offense.
A week-and-a-half before O'Leary's final game, Anez wrote in his blog (Oct 14, 2015, 11:19am)
<http://www.espn580orlando.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=11161>:
Many of my fellow UCF alums believe that it’s time, at 69 years of age, for GOL to hang ‘em up. The game has passed him by, they say. It’s time for some fresh new blood to take over at UCF, they also say.
It didn't matter whether that's really true or not: Attendance and other support for athletics is determined by the perceptions of fans & boosters. Even more so now that social media is giving a potent voice to the feelings--and sometimes even thinking--of what was once called "the rabble".
It's going to be quite a challenge for what ever athletic director UCF will be able to hire, for her|him to accelerate from a standing start to recognize & sign a talented offensive-minded coach, without having him intercepted by a more prominent college football program that also has a vacancy.
But I expect Collins to stay put as a Gator assistant coach.
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Note *: But claim no insider info, being here on the wrong side of the tracks from the UCF campus.
Numbers, oozie and I have all be critical of Collins all year. Numbers and oozie from a position of superior knowledge, me just looking at how the overall defense performed in critical situations.
That is why I thought this is an interesting thread, subset of another one, to be sure. But one deserving full attention, by itself
That is why I thought this is an interesting thread, subset of another one, to be sure. But one deserving full attention, by itself
sadgator honestly doesn't know how you have the patience to do what you do, but there are times when you are absolutely brilliant. Well done.
you mean big brother
I don't think losing him could be the worst thing to ever happen to us.
If Collins does go to UCF than Florida could simply just shift Randy Shannon to defensive coordinator who is more than capable. I don't know why this current defensive coaching staff did not have the team perform even better in some situations. Maybe even game plan or try to anticipate what the other team likes to do (i.e, defending the fake FG-attempt vs LSU because of their previous history utilizing that play).
This year, I felt that UF's defense was also giving up too many big passing plays (i.e, LSU, Missouri, East Carolina). But this seems to be a weakness last year, too. Either the safeties were late in covering the deep receiver or that the corners stopped running or could not keep up with their man.
We'll just get Al Golden on staff.
Seriously...how funny would it be to have the last two Miami head coaches on staff?
Oh how they've fallen.
Seriously...how funny would it be to have the last two Miami head coaches on staff?
Oh how they've fallen.
I don't want to lose him, but I don't think it would be the worse thing in the world either. My main complaints with him are how much zone we play and how we're consistently outnumbered against the run game that involves the QB. On the first, I wouldn't care that much if we didn't give such large cushions, we have really good DB's, let em be physical! And on the second, it's just basic scheme issues that shouldn't happen. Our blitzes are sloppy as hell at times too.
I think it's rare to have multi year contracts for assistants. If you did, then you would have buyouts for the whole staff, and that could make changing things out so expensive that schools couldn't do it. Plus, all coaches are upwardly mobile, and multi year contracts would make jumping at a promotion problematic. I think it's normally just the HC and the HCIW (if you have one).
Having said that, I think we consistently underpay for coaches. I would like to see us pay our guys enough that a step up to a smaller school (or a lateral move to a big school) would be a pay cut or at least dollar neutral, so that guys were only leaving for top quality opportunities. Florida, being a top 5 school in revenue, should be a top 5 school in coaching salaries as well, and not just the head coach (who, by the way, ranks #17 currently).
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
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It's a lousy job, but O'Leary made (or would have made) 1.9 mil this year, I would expect, if Collins gets it, for him to make about 1.25 (no experience and not interim AD). But that is a doubling of his salary, so even though it's almost certainly a FAIL as a job, it's worth it to move.
I don't know why we lowball our assistants, and particularly our coordinators, it's certainly why they are so quick to move on. And when you get a real gem, like the current OL coach Mike Summers, for him to make 200K a year is just begging him to jump ship. This group looks like it's really solid, we need to open up the purse strings and make certain we keep them together for a while.
I posted a list of highest paid assistants, FSU is paying Trickett MORE than we are paying our OC! If you were Mike Summers, and somebody came along and offered you even 400K, what would you do? I'm telling you, we need to get our heads out of the sand and stop feeding our coaches to other programs!
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/florida-football/florida-coaching-salary-numbers-2015/
http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-dominates-list-of-assistant-salaries/
speaking of superior knowledge, oozie, MJ and gang do yourselves a favor and check out this thread over on the big brother board. Im in amazement with each post I make, the funny thing is, they are too for what they think are different reasons.
http://floridastate.forums.rivals.c...coral-gables-and-in-tally.66149/#post-1068347
Agreed. With the work Summers has done the last two years making only 200k is insane. Buuuut I'm not one to watch another man's pockets so I guess if he's happy I'm happy. We do need to pay assistants more though to at the least make sure they only leave for really quality jobs where their salary is doubled or something.
From that link, where in the world do the noles get the notion that if we don't beat them this year it will be 5 years before we beat them again? I mean WTF kinda BS is that? They think we're an ACC team or something? That's the same kind of retardedness hardliner was trying to spout. Give me an effing break.
Because apparently they have the greatest team the world's ever seen returning in 2016 and 2017. Never mind that they don't have a QB who Jimbo wants to play (evidenced by the fact that he begged a transfer to come play for a year when he could have been playing one of the guys he recruited) and that all their 4 and 5-star studs they're supposed to have has looked pedestrian all damn year. They're loaded bro!
Did some of you actually read the Warchant board? The only time I do that is when I am feeling so smart that I start irritating those around me. It seems to help bring down my intelligence to a tolerable level.
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I read what was linked...first time in many years I read anything on that useless board.
Yeah, that place is "Beam me up Scotty" territory for sure.
