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sadgator said:
And leave it to Trump to use the opportunity to promote more “alternative” facts and lies about PR deaths from Maria...http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/09/...rump-casting-doubt-hurricane-maria-death-toll

See how that works? Amazing huh?
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And like clockwork....liberals that want to believe everything bad the media says about Trump without doing any research on the claims.

The 3,000 deaths number comes from a GWU research study that used a COMPUTER MODEL to GUESS how many deaths there were.

Trump was there. The computer was not. But the media goes with the source that helps them push the anti-Trump narrative they want, without bothering to check for accuracy. The source that would actually know is classified as 'alternative facts' while the 'computer model' is re-defined as 'factual'.

See how that works? Amazing huh?
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
And like clockwork....liberals that want to believe everything bad the media says about Trump without doing any research on the claims.

The 3,000 deaths number comes from a GWU research study that used a COMPUTER MODEL to GUESS how many deaths there were.

Trump was there. The computer was not. But the media goes with the source that helps them push the anti-Trump narrative they want, without bothering to check for accuracy. The source that would actually know is classified as 'alternative facts' while the 'computer model' is re-defined as 'factual'.

See how that works? Amazing huh?
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That democrat mayor of San Juan fought Trump in order to kill as many of the poor as possible on orders from Schmuck Schumer and Queen Nancy Pelosi. Just like the democrat governor of Louisiana and Chocolate City Mayor Roy Nagin did Bush II with Katrina. Worked in the lead up to the midterms then and flipped both Houses of Congress. They wanted it to do the same again


All those people made to do without water in order to get CNN, MSDNC and the rest to blame Trump over the criminal neglect by the Mayor and her administration in delivering the FEMA issued supplies. Her contractors, paid for by US taxpayer dollars, barely bothered to make even the paltriest effort.


Only one political party purposely kills people for political gain. And it ain't the one that all of George Soros' paid for protestors hate.

http://www.projectrepublictoday.com...ater-found-in-puerto-rico-a-year-after-maria/
 
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Saw the report about the hundreds of thousands of bottles of water hidden under blue tarps at the PR airport.

People don't watch the news to get the news, they watch it to have their worldview confirmed.

Let's put on our critical-thinking caps for a minute.....the MSM was down in Puerto Rico when Trump was. So they know there wasn't 3,000 people killed, because they would have been reporting it 24/7 since then

They were there with Trump, they know he's telling the truth. So why are they lying? Why did they lie about Lanny Davis and Michael Cohen claiming Trump knew about the Russia-Trump Tower meeting? Why did they lie about when Wikileaks told Don Jr about the DNC emails?

Because they believe that their lying is justified because anything that gets Trump out of office is just fine. And their followers agree with them, look at sad's post, he could care less that they are lying, he just loves any 'news' that confirms his worldview that Trump is turrible.

This will now become "Trump is lying about how many people died in PR from Maria". Even though Trump was there, and they know he's right.

Critical thinking, y'all. It's not just for Trump supporters, or at least it shouldn't be.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
And like clockwork....liberals that want to believe everything bad the media says about Trump without doing any research on the claims.

The 3,000 deaths number comes from a GWU research study that used a COMPUTER MODEL to GUESS how many deaths there were.

Trump was there. The computer was not. But the media goes with the source that helps them push the anti-Trump narrative they want, without bothering to check for accuracy. The source that would actually know is classified as 'alternative facts' while the 'computer model' is re-defined as 'factual'.

See how that works? Amazing huh?
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Even Republican legislators back the GWU numbers...Trump politicized this on his own because he can’t shut up (or tell the truth)...

But you’ll blame CNN because it is the trendy thing your leader wants you to blindly do...
 
sadgator said:
Even Republican legislators back the GWU numbers...Trump politicized this on his own because he can’t shut up (or tell the truth)...

But you’ll blame CNN because it is the trendy thing your leader wants you to blindly do...
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Too many Republicans are still scared to death of the media saying a wordy dirty about them. The media knows this. Trump doesn't give a sh*t. Eventually they will come around.

And I'll blame CNN because they are supposed to be journalists, not politicize a hurricane because they don't like the sitting President. And because I have a working brain. If there were really 3,000 deaths (or anywhere close to it) do you REALLY think the media wouldn't have reported it till now? Be serious.

Reminder....they were in PR too, and saw everything Trump saw. Critical thinking is so lost on the left.
 
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Trumpsters are going to believe whatever comes out of his mouth because they agree with him and they support his agenda. No matter that no Republican of any note has backed him up. And if we can't believe the Democrats, and we can't believe the Republicans, and we can't believe the media, who can we believe? Why Donald, of course. Doesn't that scare the hell out of any of you?

As for CNN politicizing Florence, you're reading an opinion piece, not something from CNN's newsroom.

And as for the death toll, the numbers have been climbing steadily since the storm and have been widely reported. This isn't something someone just made up.
 
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saenole said:
Trumpsters are going to believe whatever comes out of his mouth because they agree with him and they support his agenda.
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Quit trying to project your bad behavior onto Trump supporters. We will believe Trump over the media because Trump has repeatedly been found to be TELLING THE TRUTH, and the media keeps saying he's lying.

Examples:

1 - Trump says obama wiretapped Trump Tower. Media said he's lying, and an idiot. Then it's proven that obama DID wiretap Trump Tower. Media then shifts to "Well they were just doing it to PROTECT Trump from Russia!"
2 - Trump says Google is biased against him. Media said he is lying, and an idiot. Then one-hour video comes out of Google All-Hands meeting from the day after election where they are literally crying about Hillary losing and talk about how they will use their products to 'stop' Trump.
3 - Trump says he didn't know about the Russia-Trump Tower meeting. Media says he is lying. Then Lanny Davis (Cohen's attorney) admits HE lied, and Trump didn't know. Media has to publish retraction, except for CNN, who refuses. Funny story....CNN claims they CONTACTED LANNY DAVIS for comment, and they claim he refused. So they were caught red-handed.
4 - Trump claims thousands of people were at a rally. NYT says he's lying, there were 1,000 people there at most. Fire marshall then confirms attendance of 5,500.
5 - Trump claims new texts from Lisa Page and Peter Strzock detail their 'media leak strategy' for leaking info to the media about the Russia investigation. Media says Trump is lying, and Page's attorney claims that the 'media leak strategy' meant they were discussing what they would do to defend against a media leak. Media again calls Trump a lying idiot. Then new texts are released that show the lovebirds discussing the articles they are writing for media sources, even how the NYT is upset that they gave a good scoop to WaPo.


Seeing a pattern here? Trump makes a claim, then media swoops in and calls him a lying idiot with no evidence. Then he gives the evidence, and the media looks like idiots.

If the media would actually DO THEIR JOB and do REAL JOURNALISM, they could CONFIRM Trump's claims and avoid being embarrassed.

But they are not longer journalists, now they are political activists. And as Trump keeps proving, they are very often wrong.

Which is why we tend to believe Trump over the media. If the media stops lying and starts telling the truth, they'll get some credibility back.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Quit trying to project your bad behavior onto Trump supporters. We will believe Trump over the media because Trump has repeatedly been found to be TELLING THE TRUTH, and the media keeps saying he's lying.

Examples:

1 - Trump says obama wiretapped Trump Tower. Media said he's lying, and an idiot. Then it's proven that obama DID wiretap Trump Tower. Media then shifts to "Well they were just doing it to PROTECT Trump from Russia!"
2 - Trump says Google is biased against him. Media said he is lying, and an idiot. Then one-hour video comes out of Google All-Hands meeting from the day after election where they are literally crying about Hillary losing and talk about how they will use their products to 'stop' Trump.
3 - Trump says he didn't know about the Russia-Trump Tower meeting. Media says he is lying. Then Lanny Davis (Cohen's attorney) admits HE lied, and Trump didn't know. Media has to publish retraction, except for CNN, who refuses. Funny story....CNN claims they CONTACTED LANNY DAVIS for comment, and they claim he refused. So they were caught red-handed.
4 - Trump claims thousands of people were at a rally. NYT says he's lying, there were 1,000 people there at most. Fire marshall then confirms attendance of 5,500.
5 - Trump claims new texts from Lisa Page and Peter Strzock detail their 'media leak strategy' for leaking info to the media about the Russia investigation. Media says Trump is lying, and Page's attorney claims that the 'media leak strategy' meant they were discussing what they would do to defend against a media leak. Media again calls Trump a lying idiot. Then new texts are released that show the lovebirds discussing the articles they are writing for media sources, even how the NYT is upset that they gave a good scoop to WaPo.


Seeing a pattern here? Trump makes a claim, then media swoops in and calls him a lying idiot with no evidence. Then he gives the evidence, and the media looks like idiots.

If the media would actually DO THEIR JOB and do REAL JOURNALISM, they could CONFIRM Trump's claims and avoid being embarrassed.

But they are not longer journalists, now they are political activists. And as Trump keeps proving, they are very often wrong.

Which is why we tend to believe Trump over the media. If the media stops lying and starts telling the truth, they'll get some credibility back.
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Generally I ignore political debates, my stance is clear though. I am firmly anti-establishment. Our country was founded as a republic, not a democracy as most believe.

I will believe Trump over CNN or any Liberal Socialist because it fits my vision of what I want this country to be. I am America first unapologetically, I don't care if any leftist elitist agrees with me. I can get along with them just fine on issues not regarding politics.

As for CNN, they are now repeating the same mistake as 2016, they are buying into the same pollsters that showed Hillary sweeping her way to presidency. They would rather continue to unfairly air stupid sordid affairs Trump was involved in 20 years ago. I don't doubt he does things I wouldn't condone, but they did no such reporting on Obama or Clinton. You must admit that is shady reporting, I wouldn't have as big an issue with the Liberal Socialist hordes if they could just admit their precious Obama did bad things, in my eyes he was worse because he wasn't America first, and was still a piece of crap human being. Just admit you support them unabashedly because they fit your vision. That may be an issue though because he accomplished very little, no job growth to compare to the 3.1 Trump secured. Liberals see things emotionally, therefore it's hard to admit their messiah was immoral. Trump is no messiah, he is in charge of this countrys international and residential issues. He is no church leader, I didn't vote for that.

Trump may not always be the moral compass, but he is fixing issues important to sustaining this country as the shining light. Veterans need to be taken care of, the trade issues with China need to be adressed, jobs need to be kept in this country, we need secure borders, we need to maintain a free market economy. Terrorists need to be identified and labeled as such.

The founder of the walkaway movement was banned by Facebook just for mentioning infowars, yet there are several active members who have posted plans to assassinate Trump. Spin that.
 
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saenole said:
Trumpsters are going to believe whatever comes out of his mouth because they agree with him and they support his agenda. No matter that no Republican of any note has backed him up. And if we can't believe the Democrats, and we can't believe the Republicans, and we can't believe the media, who can we believe? Why Donald, of course. Doesn't that scare the hell out of any of you?

As for CNN politicizing Florence, you're reading an opinion piece, not something from CNN's newsroom.

And as for the death toll, the numbers have been climbing steadily since the storm and have been widely reported. This isn't something someone just made up.
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So what about the water bottles?

Is that made up too?
 
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#boycotthurricanes

" I want all progressive liberals to show up to the beaches and show this storm that it's racist , sexist hatred will not be welcome."

- Herbie Zanders-
 
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PlutoDroid said:
As for CNN, they are now repeating the same mistake as 2016, they are buying into the same pollsters that showed Hillary sweeping her way to presidency.
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Yep. They are already showing polls that say Dems will control the House. They don't understand that Trump supporters will go to the polls just to spite them now, and dems will stay at home thinking they are safe. Same thing that happened in 2016 as you said.

But after Sessions and Huber drop the hammer in October, the question left will be if Repubs get the Super Majority in just the Senate or in all of Congress.

BTW for those of you that delight in laughing at the media's TSD, the fantastic Sharyl Attkisson is doing a running tally of all the news reports about Trump the media has made that turned out to be wrong - https://sharylattkisson.com/2018/09/09/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/

Most are simply the media being bad journalists and not verifying facts before running them. But a few are outright lies and deception, such as CNN purposely editing a video of Trump feeding fish in Japan (#31), and Time claiming a child was detained and separated from her parents, when she was not (#52).

It's up to 56 wrong stories from the media and it's not updated to include the CNN story where they lied about Lanny Davis and the Trump Tower meeting.
 
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What the DOJ pulled on Trump is worse than Watergate using US intelligence agencies against a campaign like that. No matter what side people are on they should want to see those clowns go to jail spying like that without any probable cause at all and violating their own Woods procedures even submitting that unverified garbage without showing the weak points of it and it gets worse daily what a scheme it was.

All of them need to be in jail as that was banana republic level crap.
 
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-MDVOL said:
That democrat mayor of San Juan fought Trump in order to kill as many of the poor as possible on orders from Schmuck Schumer and Queen Nancy Pelosi. Just like the democrat governor of Louisiana and Chocolate City Mayor Roy Nagin did Bush II with Katrina. Worked in the lead up to the midterms then and flipped both Houses of Congress. They wanted it to do the same again


All those people made to do without water in order to get CNN, MSDNC and the rest to blame Trump over the criminal neglect by the Mayor and her administration in delivering the FEMA issued supplies. Her contractors, paid for by US taxpayer dollars, barely bothered to make even the paltriest effort.


Only one political party purposely kills people for political gain. And it ain't the one that all of George Soros' paid for protestors hate.

http://www.projectrepublictoday.com...ater-found-in-puerto-rico-a-year-after-maria/
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Speaking about Puerto Rico and how Trump is responsible for all it's problems.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/cri...mayor-arrested-corruption-20180707-story.html
 
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saenole said:
Trumpsters are going to believe whatever comes out of his mouth because they agree with him and they support his agenda. No matter that no Republican of any note has backed him up. And if we can't believe the Democrats, and we can't believe the Republicans, and we can't believe the media, who can we believe? Why Donald, of course. Doesn't that scare the hell out of any of you?

As for CNN politicizing Florence, you're reading an opinion piece, not something from CNN's newsroom.

And as for the death toll, the numbers have been climbing steadily since the storm and have been widely reported. This isn't something someone just made up.
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What I'd really like to know is what is the Democrats' message to the American people?
 
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-MDVOL said:
That democrat mayor of San Juan fought Trump in order to kill as many of the poor as possible on orders from Schmuck Schumer and Queen Nancy Pelosi. Just like the democrat governor of Louisiana and Chocolate City Mayor Roy Nagin did Bush II with Katrina. Worked in the lead up to the midterms then and flipped both Houses of Congress. They wanted it to do the same again


All those people made to do without water in order to get CNN, MSDNC and the rest to blame Trump over the criminal neglect by the Mayor and her administration in delivering the FEMA issued supplies. Her contractors, paid for by US taxpayer dollars, barely bothered to make even the paltriest effort.


Only one political party purposely kills people for political gain. And it ain't the one that all of George Soros' paid for protestors hate.

http://www.projectrepublictoday.com...ater-found-in-puerto-rico-a-year-after-maria/
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I don’t remember a peep from CNN, MSDNC, the alphabet networks over Owebamas disastrous handling of hurricane Sandy? That was a massive failure. The RAT run leftist media “ Owebamas praetorian guard” protected this buffoon at all cost.
 
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rockydoc said:
Another raciest comment. Golly, this is not going to help recruiting at all!
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We don't need a lilly white dude trying to determine what is racist and what isn't. I believe we are capable of figuring it out on our own and feeling offended on our own.

I realize you are nothing other than a useless troll but I hope something does hurt the recruitment of idiots that hang with a Tay Bang....and slang frying pans in fights.
 
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Another example of how the MSM willingly lies to the Left every day:



I say the Left, because Trump supporters are smart enough to fact-check this on the fly. Trump haters like sad will never get past the headline because it confirms their worldview. Sheep.
 
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TennesseeGator said:
Hang on to your money after November:eek:
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Yeah first thing the dems would do is want back those 'crumbs' that Trump gave everyone.

There's a dem in the House, I think the guy from Atlanta, who has been in Congress for FORTY years and who has NEVER voted for a Republican-backed bill. 100% perfect record of voting with the dems, over 40 years. Someone like that has no business being in Congress. One of the things that I hope will happen if the Repubs get the Super Majority in Congress is that they pass Term Limits. These guys are basically using this as a lifetime appointment because they rake in the donor dollars, then vote how the donors tell them to vote.

Ted Cruz has opened discussion on Term Limits multiple times on the floor, but it always goes no where. Hopefully once enough patriots who love the country more than the dollar get elected, they can try it and pass it. If we passed Term Limits then laws closely regulating their ability to be lobbyists AFTER they leave Congress, we'd get back to electing people who come to Congress because they want to SERVE the American people, not because they want to become Millionaires.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Another example of how the MSM willingly lies to the Left every day:

View embedded media


I say the Left, because Trump supporters are smart enough to fact-check this on the fly. Trump haters like sad will never get past the headline because it confirms their worldview. Sheep.
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Left is the correct term for these people and not Liberals. FDR was a LIBERAL and he would be appalled at the America hating, communism loving insanity that is driving what was once his party.

This generation of "Youth" are indoctrinated starting in Kindergarten and all through elementary, middle and high school. Then in college, you have "Professors" who are as rabidly Marxist as any of the Soviet "Re-education" instructors.

Then there is all the funding of these leftist hate groups by Billionaire George Soros who got his start at age 15 by pretending to be a Catholic ( he is a non practicing Jew) who worked with the Einsatzgruppen in 1944 and 1945 pointing out Hungarian Jews to be sent to Auschwitz.
In exchange for leading the Nazis to Jews, he was given a portion of the money, jewelry, and other possessions of the 850,000 FELLOW Hungarian Jews that he helped sent to their deaths. Hungary was an ally to Hitler during the war and he had left their Jews alone. They had the largest remaining population of unmolested Jews in Europe at that late date in the war. Himmler offered the lives of those 850,000 Jews to FDR and Churchill in the spring of 1944 in exchange for 10,000 Studebaker 2 1/2 ton 4wd trucks. This was something he did without Hitler's knowledge. Sent the message through the Swiss( or Swedes. Been a while since I read it) The Germans were getting slaughtered in Russia and needed transportation to withdraw instead of having so many men in horse drawn carts and on foot. FDR and Churchill were afraid of Stalin getting mad at them so FDR declined and Soros got rich. Yet democrats have no problem taking Soros' blood money while pretending that they are so pious.

Only about 10,000 out of 850,000 survived the war.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Another example of how the MSM willingly lies to the Left every day:

View embedded media


I say the Left, because Trump supporters are smart enough to fact-check this on the fly. Trump haters like sad will never get past the headline because it confirms their worldview. Sheep.
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And right on cue....one of the biggest clowns in Congress just proved my point about how the Left isn't smart enough to read past the headline:



LMAO! And these goobers think there's a blue wave coming?!?
 
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gatorbuilderorlando said:
Trump says a lot of stupid crap but the media are terrible. There's no good guy in between the two.
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Saying and doing are two very different things.


I don't care for many of the things he says.


But I love the things he has done in regard to his focus on AMERICA and the AMERICAN people. Putting them first above all others.


It's been since Reagan that we had a President who did that.
 
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-MDVOL said:
Saying and doing are two very different things.


I don't care for many of the things he says.


But I love the things he has done in regard to his focus on AMERICA and the AMERICAN people. Putting them first above all others.


It's been since Reagan that we had a President who did that.
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Yep, he and Reagan both made us all proud to be Americans. Dems think we need to apologize for being the greatest country in the history of the world, and that we need to make amends to the rest of the world. Through open borders, horrible trade deals, etc. Basically they think all our wealth should be redistributed to the rest of the world.

In short, dems want a global government. Can't understand why their voters aren't smart enough to see this.
 
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Oh my.

What has happened to my poor thread? You guys are intense about politics. Isn't there a separate board for this nonsense? Jeez
 
-MDVOL said:
Saying and doing are two very different things.


I don't care for many of the things he says.


But I love the things he has done in regard to his focus on AMERICA and the AMERICAN people. Putting them first above all others.


It's been since Reagan that we had a President who did that.
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I don't disagree but that also doesn't excuse the stupid crap Trump says. I voted for the guy and depending on his opponent may again - but the guy is a PR nightmare and his lack of control on Twitter is simply embarrassing. I do love Obama running around trying to take credit for the good stuff Trump's done...though all through his presidency running around the world apologizing for America haha.
 
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gatorbuilderorlando said:
I don't disagree but that also doesn't excuse the stupid crap Trump says. I voted for the guy and depending on his opponent may again - but the guy is a PR nightmare and his lack of control on Twitter is simply embarrassing.
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A PR nightmare? Without him on Twitter, we'd have no idea about 90% of the lying and corruption in DC and the MSM. Republicans cried for years that no one ever pushed back against the lying media, well now we've got a President that's doing everything we said we wanted a President to do.

This is what pushing back looks like. These people are liars, and they are dirty. You don't push back with apologies.
 
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