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Warmists do more to endanger the climate and environment than anyone else on the planet

Just when we all thought The Groper Joe was a dips**t VP.

Brandon promises to send Whoremella to Poland during the Ukrainian crisis. We should ask ourselves, what did Poland ever do to us for them to deserve that? 😲

 
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I put the health of the planet above my politics, unlike some here.

The entire warmist/green/sustainability cult is about changing consumer behavior. We are told we need to stop depending on fossil fuels and 'dirty' energy sources. We have to start buying electric cars and solar panels.

But these electric cars and solar panels destroy the planet. Both in creation and destruction. You can see the pictures above for yourself, this is nothing new. The environment literally has to be gutted in order to obtain the materials needed to create those batteries that go in your electric cars and to get the materials necessary to make those solar panels.

And that's just the creation. What happens when they are no longer useful? They go straight into a landfill, where those materials seep out and into the ground, poisoning the soil and water sources.

If your goal was to destroy the planet and kill people in the process, you should be a warmist. I honestly don't know how you internally rationalize it to yourself.
Also, do a little homework, see which Politicians are invested in what type of companies that would greatly benefit from the Green Initiative. Then you just might understand the push. It's NEVER BEEN ABOUT the health of the planet, only the health of certain checkbooks.
 
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That's my point. Hydrogen vehicles are inefficient and are ONLY viable with heavy subsidies. Also...

https://policies.google.com/privacy
However, the safety concerns are not the main reason why hydrogen is a far inferior option for personal transportation than BEVs. If one of your main goals is to save the planet, BEVs are considerably more energy efficient than FCVs, when you take into account the whole series of steps between power generation and propulsion. With a BEV, once the electricity is generated – hopefully from a renewable source – the supply of this to your vehicle charging location loses about 5%. The charging and discharging of the battery then lose another 10%. Finally, the motor wastes another 5% driving the vehicle. That makes for a total loss of 20%.
With a hydrogen fuel cell, however, you first have to convert the electricity to hydrogen via electrolysis, which is only 75% efficient. Then the gas has to be compressed, chilled and transported, which loses another 10%. The fuel cell process of converting hydrogen back to electricity is only 60% efficient, after which you have the same 5% loss from driving the vehicle motor as for a BEV. The grand total is a 62% loss – more than three times as much. Or, to put it another way, for every kW of electricity supply, you get 800W for a BEV, but only 380W for an FCV – less than half as much. That’s a huge inefficiency if you’re hoping for a greener future, and doesn’t even take into account the fact that 95% of hydrogen is currently generated from fossil fuel sources.




Happening now….big money is considering hydrogen

 
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I beleive it's only used on a small scale. Not sure it could/would work large scale.

It already has been proven to work on a large scale. Hydrogen is powerful and much more powerful than batteries. This is why hydrogen looks so good for heavy duty trucks
 
We must do an “all above” energy strategy. The corruption of Globalization & political leaders is crazy dangerous.

The fact Western Europe dismantled their nuclear power plants & intentionally became dependent on Russia is ALL you need to know.

Politicians are scumbags - their corruption is at the root of this current evil!
 
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Where is is working on a large scale? I never hear about it hear in the Washington DC area.

I’m busy working, but will find links later. But, Amazon and Walmart use full-scale hydrogen powered forklifts in all there facilities. Fuel-cell energy powers 60 MW power stations
 
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Just when we all thought The Groper Joe was a dips**t VP.

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We must do an “all above” energy strategy. The corruption of Globalization & political leaders is crazy dangerous.

The fact Western Europe dismantled their nuclear power plants & intentionally became dependent on Russia is ALL you need to know.

Politicians are scumbags - their corruption is at the root of this current evil!
100%...but lefties simply do not understand this
 
I’m busy working, but will find links later. But, Amazon and Walmart use full-scale hydrogen powered forklifts in all there facilities. Fuel-cell energy powers 60 MW power stations
There are ZERO plans to incorporate hydrogen vehicle in non commercial use for the general public from the big 3 at this time. That is VERY telling.
 
There are ZERO plans to incorporate hydrogen vehicle in non commercial use for the general public from the big 3 at this time. That is VERY telling.

Very telling, but not very foretelling. Look outside merica. H gigafactory announced in Korea yesterday. Giga is a big deal

 
Very telling, but not very foretelling. Look outside merica. H gigafactory announced in Korea yesterday. Giga is a big deal

I will always live in America. We have LOADS of fossil fuels. I am a fossil fuel lover! I do not fall for the climate lie like slow people do.
 
There are ZERO plans to incorporate hydrogen vehicle in non commercial use for the general public from the big 3 at this time. That is VERY telling.

Don’t be so sure. Dodge likes it. The big 3 can’t be far behind
 

Don’t be so sure. Dodge likes it. The big 3 can’t be far behind
Google tells me the last time Dodge offered a Hellcat, it sold about 2,000 units a year.

Hydrogen isn't ready for Prime Time. A skunkworks project for a sustainability fanboy with the ear of the right product manager? Maybe.
 
Does this mean he is going to give up his yacht?

It absolutely does not mean that. Special people will have special privileges.

The classless society will have two classes. It's just that 99.9% will belong to the lower class. That is utopia...according to them.

Guess what happens to those who can't fend for themselves if people like this guy get their way? The nazis were less diabolical.
 

Don’t be so sure. Dodge likes it. The big 3 can’t be far behind

There's plenty of hydrogen to be had. At present, there's not enough of the rest of the stuff to make hydrogen a viable energy solution for a significant portion of the population. It's not doable...not at this time at least and the solution isn't yet on the horizon.

Ready. Aim. Fire.

If you get any of those 3 out of order, it doesn't work.
 
There's plenty of hydrogen to be had. At present, there's not enough of the rest of the stuff to make hydrogen a viable energy solution for a significant portion of the population. It's not doable...not at this time at least and the solution isn't yet on the horizon.

Ready. Aim. Fire.

If you get any of those 3 out of order, it doesn't work.

Agreed. Everyone interested in H, is really ramping up production of Hydrogen. Right now, not many atttempt to produce hydrogen. That seems to be changing from the articles I read. Gigafactories and H production plants opening up across the globe.

Your family ought to get ahead of the curve and open a small H producing facility. It will be a money printer in 3-5 years
 
Agreed. Everyone interested in H, is really ramping up production of Hydrogen. Right now, not many atttempt to produce hydrogen. That seems to be changing from the articles I read. Gigafactories and H production plants opening up across the globe.

Your family ought to get ahead of the curve and open a small H producing facility. It will be a money printer in 3-5 years

I would hazard that the easier money is on the other side of the business...producing the things you need to turn hydrogen to energy. Two problems...

1- There isn't enough of it

2- Production and supply is a giant pain in the arse

I'm more into passive forms of commerce.
 
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I would hazard that the easier money is on the other side of the business...producing the things you need to turn hydrogen to energy. Two problems...

1- There isn't enough of it

2- Production and supply is a giant pain in the arse

I'm more into passive forms of commerce.

That’s why I just bought into all the Hydrogen companies. Plug and Bloom are the top dogs. If H catches on, these guys are going to the moon. Get you some plug
 
That’s why I just bought into all the Hydrogen companies. Plug and Bloom are the top dogs. If H catches on, these guys are going to the moon. Get you some plug

I'm referring to the manufacturers, and their suppliers, for things like electrolyzers and the like.
 
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