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You're making my point for me. You think Reagan was far more popular based off of primarily what polls and the media are telling you.

What was Reagan's record for endorsements? I'm sure it was very good, but I think we both know it can't touch Trump's.

On the flipside, what was obama's endorsement record?

We are told by the media that most of the country hates Trump. Even in your first post, you seemed to imply that the only people who like Trump in this country are his most loyal supporters.

But his endorsement record proves that's not the case. It proves the majority of the country LOVES Trump.

What happened with obama? The media told us that the majority of the country LOVED obama.

How was his endorsement record? Remember, he literally told voters "If you want 4 more years of me, then you gotta vote for Hillary!" And Hillary LOST. Easily.

Would your opinion of Trump's popularity change if the media had told you every day for the last 6 years that Trump was beloved by the entire nation?

Of course it would. So the same stands to reason that since they told you every day for the last 6 years that Trump was an embarrassment and the nation hates him, that you believe them.

The media lied to you. They lied to all of us. George Washington could run against Trump with Abe Lincoln as his VP, and still lose.

Trump is the GOAT. Reagan was great, but he wasn't as popular as Trump. No one is.

Wow you must have spent some time in the Too Hot For Trump Bot Shop.

He raised millions after the FBI raid and then said he thought that the temperature of the country was too high.
Why was that?
 
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Wow you must have spent some time in the Too Hot For Trump Bot Shop.

He raised millions after the FBI raid and then said he thought that the temperature of the country was too high.
Why was that?
You will be happy to know that post raid.,..Trumps lead over Desantis grew from 30 points to 40 points. Yikes
 
It’s the most surreal thing I have seen. Everywhere I travel, Trump shirts, hats, flags, signs, bumper stickers, hand made wooden signs. Crazy, and has been prevalent in EVERY state. I thought it was just a Texas thing when I lived there. It isn’t.

Trump won 2020, in a landslide.
It's not just Texas, it's Florida too. The countryside still has Trump signs everywhere you go. We even had a golf cart/ATV parade in a small fishing town, people from all over the place jammed into town.

I went to bed on election night at 4 am when they stopped counting and Trump was winning in a big way. I woke up the next day to the fraudulent shens on display all across the nation. Sumting Wong here, millions of illegal ballots appeared. :mad:
 
You're making my point for me. You think Reagan was far more popular based off of primarily what polls and the media are telling you.

What was Reagan's record for endorsements? I'm sure it was very good, but I think we both know it can't touch Trump's.

On the flipside, what was obama's endorsement record?

We are told by the media that most of the country hates Trump. Even in your first post, you seemed to imply that the only people who like Trump in this country are his most loyal supporters.

But his endorsement record proves that's not the case. It proves the majority of the country LOVES Trump.

What happened with obama? The media told us that the majority of the country LOVED obama.

How was his endorsement record? Remember, he literally told voters "If you want 4 more years of me, then you gotta vote for Hillary!" And Hillary LOST. Easily.

Would your opinion of Trump's popularity change if the media had told you every day for the last 6 years that Trump was beloved by the entire nation?

Of course it would. So the same stands to reason that since they told you every day for the last 6 years that Trump was an embarrassment and the nation hates him, that you believe them.

The media lied to you. They lied to all of us. George Washington could run against Trump with Abe Lincoln as his VP, and still lose.

Trump is the GOAT. Reagan was great, but he wasn't as popular as Trump. No one is.

No, I did not base it primarily off of polling. I used votes from Presidential elections as a percentage of the population. That has significantly more data points and is relative over time when used as a percentage to compare the two.

Trump’s endorsement record is strong, but that is nearly impossible to quantify. So you are asking a question versus Reagan that can’t be validated. But even if he were batting a 100% it still doesn’t mean he is the most popular president of all time. It does mean that his endorsement Carrie’s a lot of weight within the Republican Party - something I have never said otherwise.
 
It's not just Texas, it's Florida too. The countryside still has Trump signs everywhere you go. We even had a golf cart/ATV parade in a small fishing town, people from all over the place jammed into town.

I went to bed on election night at 4 am when they stopped counting and Trump was winning in a big way. I woke up the next day to the fraudulent shens on display all across the nation. Sumting Wong here, millions of illegal ballots appeared. :mad:
If you look at a map - just on county by county, 65 to 70%+ of the counties are Red. Just look at Minnesota:


The problem is the population density, especially in blue states. It is overwhelmingly blue.

Remember, Trump only lost by 40,000 total votes in six states. His call with Georgia was 11,500 votes (or so). Most of where he lost ground? Suburbs.

Illegal Immigration, which has been going on for decades and now the children, born in the U.S. and so citizens are voting. They are trending R, but Hispanics still vote 60%+ D, that is the difference along with the Trump "mean tweets" and how off putting it was to white suburban women and their husbands (Trump lost ground with white men, especially college educated in 2020) in those districts that led to the 40,000 vote margin.
 
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No, I did not base it primarily off of polling. I used votes from Presidential elections as a percentage of the population.
And that's pretty worthless for a couple of reasons:

1 - 1984 was a landslide win for Reagan. Walter Mondale was a horrible candidate and had almost no support.

2 - Election integrity was non-existent in 2020. You are using the numbers the media gives you on Trump's support, as I said. We know that in certain areas, machines were rigged to count every Trump vote as being worth 0.75 of a vote, and every Hiden vote was worth 1.25 votes.


Apples to oranges comparison.

Additionally, Trump's approval ratings among republican voters are higher than any other republican president, including Reagan.

I am a huge fan of Reagan's, obviously. But I'm not blind to the fact that Trump is the GOAT.
 
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It's not just Texas, it's Florida too. The countryside still has Trump signs everywhere you go. We even had a golf cart/ATV parade in a small fishing town, people from all over the place jammed into town.

I went to bed on election night at 4 am when they stopped counting and Trump was winning in a big way. I woke up the next day to the fraudulent shens on display all across the nation. Sumting Wong here, millions of illegal ballots appeared. :mad:
I went to bed knowing they would cheat, but that it was too big of a lead for them to cheat their way out of.

Then 3am happened in 5 'swing' states. Actually in 5 democratically-run cities within 5 swing states.

Or maybe it was white, college-educated women in the suburbs. One of the two *facepalm*.
 
In a legal and fair election, Trump likely won 45 or so states in 2020. And suddenly all the posters here that let the media tell them how to think are singing a completely different tune about Trump.

Did Trump really win California? I doubt he won Oregon, but CA is definitely possible.
Trump did not win California, nor will he if he is the 2024 candidate. No other republican will either. Californian has not gone republican since 1988. There are way too many Democrat votes in the largest population areas. If a republican wants to win the 2024 election they must do it without California.
 
Trump did not win California,
How do you know he didn't? Cause the dems in CA counted the votes and told us Hiden won? Same dems that have been counting the votes in CA since 1988?

One of the things we as a nation need to learn to do is stop listening to the media. The media exists only to push narratives and form opinion.

We must be vigilant in COMPLETELY IGNORING the media, and forming our own opinions WITHOUT their input.

That's how we see the nation as it really is.
 
Biden stole the election from trump silly without having rallies...Don't you remember? 🤣
Of course I know, son. When you cheat...rallies are not important. Hell...even a pedophille, with a crackhead son, that hid in his basement because he cannot complete a sentence can win when you cheat!
 
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How do you know he didn't? Cause the dems in CA counted the votes and told us Hiden won? Same dems that have been counting the votes in CA since 1988?

Stop listening to the media.
They just discredited 25% of the signatures to recall their communist governor. They are DEMOCRATS...they are lying, low life scum of the earth, no moral, no character POS's.
 
They just discredited 25% of the signatures to recall their communist governor. They are DEMOCRATS...they are lying, low life scum of the earth, no moral, no character POS's.
Of course they are. And they cheat election after election and we just assume 'oh, that's the way the electorate really votes'.

No, it isn't. Trump wins CA all day in a fair and legal election. Media tells us that isn't possible. Media is wrong and exists only to push narratives.

The sooner we all learn to COMPLETELY IGNORE the media, the sooner we will see the nation as it really is.
 
How do you know he didn't? Cause the dems in CA counted the votes and told us Hiden won? Same dems that have been counting the votes in CA since 1988?

One of the things we as a nation need to learn to do is stop listening to the media. The media exists only to push narratives and form opinion.

We must be vigilant in COMPLETELY IGNORING the media, and forming our own opinions WITHOUT their input.

That's how we see the nation as it really is.
1. Because it’s California and Trump winning that state doesn’t pass the smell test.

2. Using your .75 to 1.25 vote calculations above and adjusting the numbers, Trump still wouldn’t have enough votes to win California.
 
1. Because it’s California and Trump winning that state doesn’t pass the smell test.
Define 'smell test'. IOW a republican hasn't won there since 1988?

Does it pass the 'smell test' to assume that CA has had free and legal elections since 1988?

2. Using your .75 to 1.25 vote calculations above and adjusting the numbers, Trump still wouldn’t have enough votes to win California.

I didn't say that happened in California. I believe it was in Michigan where that was found to happen. CA won't let anyone near their machines to audit them, which doesn't pass the 'smell test' either, does it?
 
How do you know he didn't? Cause the dems in CA counted the votes and told us Hiden won? Same dems that have been counting the votes in CA since 1988?

One of the things we as a nation need to learn to do is stop listening to the media. The media exists only to push narratives and form opinion.

We must be vigilant in COMPLETELY IGNORING the media, and forming our own opinions WITHOUT their input.

That's how we see the nation as it really is.
Now this is something we can agree on. All media has an agenda - right or left.
 
Now this is something we can agree on. All media has an agenda - right or left.
And right vs left is pretty much an illusion. 90% of the politicians/media that claim to be on the right, are really on the left.

There are two parties in this country:

1 - Us
2 - DC

The sooner WE realize that, the better.
 
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Define 'smell test'. IOW a republican hasn't won there since 1988?

Does it pass the 'smell test' to assume that CA has had free and legal elections since 1988?



I didn't say that happened in California. I believe it was in Michigan where that was found to happen. CA won't let anyone near their machines to audit them, which doesn't pass the 'smell test' either, does it?
Unfortunately I'm afraid Armbar is right about CA. Eastern California needs to petition to create their own state. While a large portion of CA is solid red, they'll never get fair representation due to the urban rats on the coasts. Sucks. And this shit is happening to Florida slowly.
 
Wow you must have spent some time in the Too Hot For Trump Bot Shop.

He raised millions after the FBI raid and then said he thought that the temperature of the country was too high.
Why was that?
Because the democrats have used the FBI to ILLEGALLY wire his residence(2016), lied on FISA warrants to create a special council to falsely investigate HIM...for things THEY did )(this is after exonerating Hillary...who was 100% guilty and should be in jail. So I do NOT trust the FBI...do you?
 
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Because the democrats have used the FBI to ILLEGALLY wire his residence(2016), lied on FISA warrants to create a special council to falsely investigate HIM...for things THEY did )(this is after exonerating Hillary...who was 100% guilty and should be in jail. So I do NOT trust the FBI...do you?
The FBI has become the tool of the Deep State for certain. The Dimtards certainly have a hand in this at the moment, because they control the .Gov currently. But even when the GOP has had control, the Deep State looks after their own. And many RINOs are in their ranks.
 
shocker, lots of whining by losers, every single thread is the same, losers whining about losing, taking no resposibility for losing. pathetic.
 
shocker, lots of whining by losers, every single thread is the same, losers whining about losing, taking no resposibility for losing. pathetic.
EXACTLY what one would expect a VERY low character, zero moral, communist/socialist to say. Color me NOT SURPRISED, son. Do you want to TRY to refute anything I typed...or just be the good UNAMERICAN POG that you are?
 
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Sissy snowflakes lost their card to call ANYONE other than little sissy libs snowflakes a LONG time ago, son
you people whine too much, its amazing, hit the gym exercise and eat better, maybe you guys wouldnt get your asses kicked so often.
 
Unfortunately I'm afraid Armbar is right about CA.
How many Presidential elections in CA since 1988 have been free and legal?

Saying a pub can never win CA cause they never have is falling for the media spin. What's never happened is we've never seen a free and legal presidential election in CA.

If we did, the results would be wildly different. And yes, that would mean we would see SOME pubs, like Trump WIN THE STATE.

Again guys, we gotta stop rejecting what the media tells us. We truly do need to assume that EVERYTHING we have been told about EVERYTHING is a lie.

The Great Reset can have dual meaning. Let's break the media spin out of our lives and re-learn what's really happening in this world based on our own independent research and CRITICAL THINKING.
 
How many Presidential elections in CA since 1988 have been free and legal?

Saying a pub can never win CA cause they never have is falling for the media spin. What's never happened is we've never seen a free and legal presidential election in CA.

If we did, the results would be wildly different. And yes, that would mean we would see SOME pubs, like Trump WIN THE STATE.

Again guys, we gotta stop rejecting what the media tells us. We truly do need to assume that EVERYTHING we have been told about EVERYTHING is a lie.

The Great Reset can have dual meaning. Let's break the media spin out of our lives and re-learn what's really happening in this world based on our own independent research and CRITICAL THINKING.
California, as it exists now is too far gone. The state would have to be split. This graphic says it all. Normal people are fleeing there in droves and are replaced by illegals faster than they leave.

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He and the cuck Trudeau, two birds of the same feather. :mad: I just don't get Canada electing that prick either. Not at all.
Canada is loaded with liberals man. Liberalism is like the Black Plague up there. Canadians are basically trained dogs. Trudeau has it easy, unfortunately.
 
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California, as it exists now is too far gone. The state would have to be split. This graphic says it all. Normal people are fleeing there in droves and are replaced by illegals faster than they leave.

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If the MAGA messaging around "Stop the Steal" was:

1. Illegal immigration
2. MSM Bias
3. "Deep State" wiring (CDC, FBI, etc.)

This gets fixed with the center-right and center-left agreeing with it.

Voting controls is important too, but if a citizen is a true citizen (even if parents came in illegally) with a voter-ID and in person voting, then that vote is cast and legal.
 
If the MAGA messaging around "Stop the Steal" was:

1. Illegal immigration
2. MSM Bias
3. "Deep State" wiring (CDC, FBI, etc.)

This gets fixed with the center-right and center-left agreeing with it.

Voting controls is important too, but if a citizen is a true citizen (even if parents came in illegally) with a voter-ID and in person voting, then that vote is cast and legal.
Great points. If Trump had ever hit on any of these topics, he wins, I agree.

(Guys, is this guy for real?)
 
this shit is happening to Florida slowly.
Oh yeah?

@fsumc brought up this discussion almost a few years back when voter fraud appeared in 2000. Broward County is pretty much one of the very few areas that are committing fraud. Duval County is a joke. No way Gillum and Biden won Duval legally.

Fuchs(not UF President) you, voter fraudsters!
 
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A very old problem we have in Florida comes out of SoFla where we have part time residents from the Northeast who vote in this state AND in NY/NJ. Before the computer age came along it was easy. Too easy. Plus the issue was compounded when several states wouldn’t share resident voter rolls with Florida.
Dead voters from Jersey City have no business voting in either state.
By the way, this goes way back - much further than 2020.
As for Duval County Mike Hogan, our Supervisor of Elections, he has worked hard to boost confidence with the electorate.
 
As usual you guys don’t let facts get in the way of your beliefs. Never had I said vaccines would cure Covid. There is no question that they have saved many lives. Did not run away in “shame.” Just took a break from arguing with a bunch of brainwashed, know it all extremists. Nothing has changed here In the past year, same old condescending tone. I do admit I am sorry I got sucked back in and apologize for disagreeing with y’all. Well, not really.
Oh...this is BS. I question it BIG TIME.
 
You're making my point for me. You think Reagan was far more popular based off of primarily what polls and the media are telling you.

What was Reagan's record for endorsements? I'm sure it was very good, but I think we both know it can't touch Trump's.

On the flipside, what was obama's endorsement record?

We are told by the media that most of the country hates Trump. Even in your first post, you seemed to imply that the only people who like Trump in this country are his most loyal supporters.

But his endorsement record proves that's not the case. It proves the majority of the country LOVES Trump.

What happened with obama? The media told us that the majority of the country LOVED obama.

How was his endorsement record? Remember, he literally told voters "If you want 4 more years of me, then you gotta vote for Hillary!" And Hillary LOST. Easily.

Would your opinion of Trump's popularity change if the media had told you every day for the last 6 years that Trump was beloved by the entire nation?

Of course it would. So the same stands to reason that since they told you every day for the last 6 years that Trump was an embarrassment and the nation hates him, that you believe them.

The media lied to you. They lied to all of us. George Washington could run against Trump with Abe Lincoln as his VP, and still lose.

Trump is the GOAT. Reagan was great, but he wasn't as popular as Trump. No one is.
THIS^^^^^^^^^
 
And that's pretty worthless for a couple of reasons:

1 - 1984 was a landslide win for Reagan. Walter Mondale was a horrible candidate and had almost no support.

2 - Election integrity was non-existent in 2020. You are using the numbers the media gives you on Trump's support, as I said. We know that in certain areas, machines were rigged to count every Trump vote as being worth 0.75 of a vote, and every Hiden vote was worth 1.25 votes.


Apples to oranges comparison.

Additionally, Trump's approval ratings among republican voters are higher than any other republican president, including Reagan.

I am a huge fan of Reagan's, obviously. But I'm not blind to the fact that Trump is the GOAT.
THIS TOO^^^^^^
 
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