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VA Gov. Terry McAuliffe says parents shouldn't tell schools what to teach their kids

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El Rushbo called him “ The Punk”

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Teaching shouldn't come from the parents it also shouldn't come from whack jobs, just teach the kids without an agenda.
 
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This is why dems dont want school choice and put teachers unions at the top. What Terry McAuliffe wants is Socialism at its core and is not teaching, but indoctrination.
Idk what he wants, I don't follow him. I'm just saying that if parents want to close the minds of their children then they should keep them home. School has always been about learning everything, good and bad. Only learning things you believe in is cult culture.
 
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El Rushbo called him “ The Punk”

this is what the Rats 🐀 think of you…..the peasants



Well then.........this is right up there with Bleeding Faced Mika from Morning Joe stating it's the media's job to tell us what to think. These people are the most fascist pieces of dung, and they are ALL Democrats.
 
What Terry is saying, and this is very concerning to people both in the middle and at the right is this critical concept: government comes at the consent of the governed.

So, parent should absolutely have input on what is being taught their children and their should be respectful debate. I believe in a core curriculum. If the elective courses taught in Jackson Heights, Queens is different from what is taught in Dothan, AL, then that should be up to local control.

Further, there should be private school options to give parents control of what is being taught, be it religious, curriculum or other.

Choice be it in schooling, media, sports you watch, etc. nearly always leads to better and lower cost options. Monopolies and concentration of power are the concern.
 
Incrementalism. Remember, you didn't know CRT was " a thing". 😂
I don't have an issue with it. I think everything is ok to learn. Never limit one self. Did you not read my post? Only learning what you believe will close development.
 
I don't have an issue with it. I think everything is ok to learn. Never limit one self. Did you not read my post? Only learning what you believe will close development.
Agreed on an expansive view of learning. It should mean teaching things like the Tulsa Massacre, Tuskegee study, etc. but also, if CRT or it's more generalized forms is taught at the High School level or below, then a fulsome and well-meaning appropriate critique of it can be applied without counter micro-aggressions being applied or outright cancel culture on a student.
 
Agreed on an expansive view of learning. It should mean teaching things like the Tulsa Massacre, Tuskegee study, etc. but also, if CRT or it's more generalized forms is taught at the High School level or below, then a fulsome and well-meaning appropriate critique of it can be applied without counter micro-aggressions being applied or outright cancel culture on a student.
I personally don't understand this new wave of never learning anything unless you believe in it. I've learned alot of stuff that I think was stupid or odd. I took evolution, culture classes, trigonometry, etc. Classes that I'll never believe in or use but it was great to help shape my own personal beliefs.
 
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Letting parents chose, just won't end well.
*choose

Who pays the salaries of the educators? Do you have kids?

And I watched the debate. The issue was about a law that was proposed that removed the requirement for parental notification for classes that featured sexually explicit material.

Think about the implications - schools can teach anything they want without any input or consultation of the parents? Insane and fascistic.
 
Neither will excluding parents. Parents are part of society and should also have input. There are places where that's not happening and the extremists are running the school boards.

That's not hysteria, it's reality. It's not reality everywhere but it shouldn't be reality anywhere.
Libs just want straight indoctrination and total control by statists. They know what’s best. They should be in control. Send your kids to the re-education camps so they can unlearn all the crap you taught them.
 
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I personally don't understand this new wave of never learning anything unless you believe in it. I've learned alot of stuff that I think was stupid or odd. I took evolution, culture classes, trigonometry, etc. Classes that I'll never believe in or use but it was great to help shape my own personal beliefs.
We’re not talking about geometry and parents deciding what the curriculum is. Do a little research.
 
@kalimgoodman doesn't think parents should care what kinda of propaganda orvile crap is being taught in the schools and shouldn’t have any say so. He prefers the state to control education


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*choose

Who pays the salaries of the educators? Do you have kids?

And I watched the debate. The issue was about a law that was proposed that removed the requirement for parental notification for classes that featured sexually explicit material.

Think about the implications - schools can teach anything they want without any input or consultation of the parents? Insane and fascistic.
Yes I have 2 kids.

By your standards, kids will never learn what fascism is.
 
We’re not talking about geometry and parents deciding what the curriculum is. Do a little research.
Libs just want straight indoctrination and total control by statists. They know what’s best. They should be in control. Send your kids to the re-education camps so they can unlearn all the crap you taught them.
How is it indoctrination to teach a kid something "different"? You people and your fears are sad. You seem to know a good amount about socialism, fascism, etc. Did learning that indoctrinate you? Did knowing about gay/lesbian/trans people, make you gay/trans? Like your theory makes zero sense.

You clearly don't want your kids (assuming you have some) to learn things because they may go against daddy beliefs. That's sad.
 
Neither will excluding parents. Parents are part of society and should also have input. There are places where that's not happening and the extremists are running the school boards.

That's not hysteria, it's reality. It's not reality everywhere but it shouldn't be reality anywhere.
What do you define as extreme?
 
How is it indoctrination to teach a kid something "different"? You people and your fears are sad. You seem to know a good amount about socialism, fascism, etc. Did learning that indoctrinate you? Did knowing about gay/lesbian/trans people, make you gay/trans? Like your theory makes zero sense.

You clearly don't want your kids (assuming you have some) to learn things because they may go against daddy beliefs. That's sad.
It’s about choosing when your kids are exposed to sex ed, CRT and other controversial subjects. Without parents schools wouldn’t have any funding. I don’t think it’s crazy for them to at be advised in what curriculum their kids are being taught and at least have some say. We sit down each semester and go over options with our kids every year.

If that’s sad to you, you’re a totalitarian.

I hate to break this to you, but you’re lying when you tell people you’re an independent. You aren’t even close.
 
Yes I have 2 kids.

By your standards, kids will never learn what fascism is.
You’re arguing from a position of extreme ignorance on this issue.

Do you go to parent teacher conferences? If so why?

Do you help your kids with their schedules? If so, why?

Do you ever help with or check homework? If so, why?

Do you ever ask your kids what they learned at school that day? If so, why?

Based on this thread I wouldn’t expect you to care at all or be involved at all. You’re making this into “parents writing the textbooks”. That’s not what any of this is about.
 
It’s about choosing when your kids are exposed to sex ed, CRT and other controversial subjects. Without parents schools wouldn’t have any funding. I don’t think it’s crazy for them to at be advised in what curriculum their kids are being taught and at least have some say. We sit down each semester and go over options with our kids every year.

If that’s sad to you, you’re a totalitarian.

I hate to break this to you, but you’re lying when you tell people you’re an independent. You aren’t even close.
Not sure what this has to do with being independent or not. Nobody is talking right or left, didn't know there was a side to this. Just thought it was our opinions/thoughts.

My thoughts are that parents should know what's going on and maybe even vote the people who pick the curriculum but I don't think they should get mad or protest/banning things that they disagree with. Expose kids, adults to as much as we can. Obviously, at the right time. A 1st grader shouldn't be learning about sex.

Before you say it's a leftist opinion, the Koch brother agrees with me and he's done more and is way more for Republicans than you'll ever do. As he said, it helps drive social progress. So that would make my what?

You need to get out of this, if I disagree, its a leftist view. It's always not that black or white.

 
Not sure what this has to do with being independent or not. Nobody is talking right or left, didn't know there was a side to this. Just thought it was our opinions/thoughts.

My thoughts are that parents should know what's going on and maybe even vote the people who pick the curriculum but I don't think they should get mad or protest/banning things that they disagree with. Expose kids, adults to as much as we can. Obviously, at the right time. A 1st grader shouldn't be learning about sex.

Before you say it's a leftist opinion, the Koch brother agrees with me and he's done more and is way more for Republicans than you'll ever do. As he said, it helps drive social progress. So that would make my what?

You need to get out of this, if I disagree, its a leftist view. It's always not that black or white.

If these were bipartisan principles being argued you’d be right - but you are defending far left wing school administrators teaching left wing ideologies. Disagree with me, that fine, but supporting leftist ideals makes you a leftist. And I asked you about 5 questions - if you are involved in your kids school activities then you’re a hypocrite.

And I don’t give a flying eff want the Koch brothers are doing any more than you care about Soros. Dumb position, weak debate tactic.

Parents should have an idea when controversial subjects are being taught or their kids and be allowed to opt out if it conflicts with their views…full stop. They pay the bills, their kids are their responsibility. This doesn’t mean they can ban geometry, but learning about complex sexual identity issues at an early age is something they should be able to opt in or out of.
 
If these were bipartisan principles being argued you’d be right - but you are defending far left wing school administrators teaching left wing ideologies. Disagree with me, that fine, but supporting leftist ideals makes you a leftist. And I asked you about 5 questions - if you are involved in your kids school activities then you’re a hypocrite.

And I don’t give a flying eff want the Koch brothers are doing any more than you care about Soros. Dumb position, weak debate tactic.

Parents should have an idea when controversial subjects are being taught or their kids and be allowed to opt out if it conflicts with their views…full stop. They pay the bills, their kids are their responsibility. This doesn’t mean they can ban geometry, but learning about complex sexual identity issues at an early age is something they should be able to opt in or out of.
I don't think it's a leftist idea. That's your problem. Being an independent or moderate, means your able to swing to both sides on certain topics. It's pretty sad, how much you don't know about being independent or moderate. Maybe you need more education in regards to that. Independents can be pro life and pro choice, they can vote for Biden or Trump, like Schumer or McConnell and they can argue/debate a side that favors the right or the left.

I figured you out and most of you. You're the type of person who will say if Republicans say its snowing and the democrats says it's not snowing, then an independent/moderate is SUPPOSED to say "well I can see both sides" or "each side can have their beliefs". Well to me an independent/moderate should go outside and see if it is snowing. If it is snowing, say that it and if it isn't, say that it's not. Independents truly doesn't care about pleasing any side.

Conflict with the parents views lol...like I said, it's all about limiting what your kids know and believe. Hey, do you but I'll never believe that with my kids. I'll raise my kids to learn all types of things and figure out what is best for them. I hate Trump but I'll never stop my kids from learning about his presidency or what he believes and if they love him afterwards, I'll fully respect it. Same with BLM, CRT, White replacement theory, fascism, authoritarianism, etc.

Fear of indoctrination means you fear what you're teaching your kids at home isn't correct IMO.
 
I don't have an issue with it. I think everything is ok to learn. Never limit one self. Did you not read my post? Only learning what you believe will close development.
I believe in keeping friends close, and enemies closer. So yes, it's good for critical thinking and knowing the enemy. But no, schools should not be poisoning the well with indoctrination of undeveloped minds. Again, you didn't know what CRT is, didn't care to learn, and dismissed it as "nothing to see here, move along". The schools should be teaching the 3Rs, plus REAL history. Otherwise civilization will be doomed to repeat past failures.
 
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He wasn't suppose to, that is why you didn't hear about it on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc.
 
This is why dems dont want school choice and put teachers unions at the top. What Terry McAuliffe wants is Socialism at its core and is not teaching, but indoctrination.
I't also WHY the DEMS Spending Bill, OH I mean Infrastructure Bill, has $ for the Goverment run Day Care. Got to start with the indoctrination at 3 or 4 years old.
 
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If these were bipartisan principles being argued you’d be right - but you are defending far left wing school administrators teaching left wing ideologies. Disagree with me, that fine, but supporting leftist ideals makes you a leftist. And I asked you about 5 questions - if you are involved in your kids school activities then you’re a hypocrite.

And I don’t give a flying eff want the Koch brothers are doing any more than you care about Soros. Dumb position, weak debate tactic.

Parents should have an idea when controversial subjects are being taught or their kids and be allowed to opt out if it conflicts with their views…full stop. They pay the bills, their kids are their responsibility. This doesn’t mean they can ban geometry, but learning about complex sexual identity issues at an early age is something they should be able to opt in or out of.
Completely disagree, expose the kids and stay involved but don't cover their little ears. And be involved in the process if you have a majority of people that don't want something it likely won't happen. Free speech is good.
 
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