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Using Texas as an example





And when Snopes does it's 'fact check', they will say it is FALSE: "A chart purported to be from the Texas HHS concerning flu vs covid for 2018-2020 was shared on social media. The claim was that this chart was created by the Texas HHS, when in fact it was not authorized or endorsed by the Texas HHS.

We find this claim to be FALSE."

Of course....no one claimed the chart was created by the Texas HHS, but the information on the chart comes from them AND is accurate.

Sheep will nod and link to Snopes and tell critical thinkers to STFU.



See?
 
Tell me again why we need to shut down the country?
Something is wrong with those figures. By my calculations, the recovery percentage for the flu was only 70%. Unless they are calculating as a percentage of the total population, in which case it’s misleading. Is this an official report or some Tards meme? Next, calculate what the percentages would be if we didn’t wear masks, quarantine for six weeks and social distance. Otherwise, it’s not comparable.
 
I heard billions but maybe that’s just Rush talking.


Trumps 2016 requested funding for a border wall = $5,000,000,000

Cost of illegal invading army to the U.S. taxpayers:
For just the first 6.5 months of 2020 = $168,202,362,816 Billion as of 3:15 PM today.
So building a 5 Billion wall would have saved us 163+ Billion.... :eek:
Good thing that the Progressive Socialist Dim-Moe-Rats fought off those savings... :rolleyes:

Invading criminal army numbers so far in 2020 = 218,324
Total invading criminal army numbers currently in the U.S. = 27,087,276

Numbers compiled by Federation for American Immigration, DHS, Yale, MIT...
 
Trumps 2016 requested funding for a border wall = $5,000,000,000

Cost of illegal invading army to the U.S. taxpayers:
For just the first 6.5 months of 2020 = $168,202,362,816 Billion as of 3:15 PM today.
So building a 5 Billion wall would have saved us 163+ Billion.... :eek:
Good thing that the Progressive Socialist Dim-Moe-Rats fought off those savings... :rolleyes:

Invading criminal army numbers so far in 2020 = 218,324
Total invading criminal army numbers currently in the U.S. = 27,087,276

Numbers compiled by Federation for American Immigration, DHS, Yale, MIT...
Sheep can never lead the flock.
 
Trumps 2016 requested funding for a border wall = $5,000,000,000

Cost of illegal invading army to the U.S. taxpayers:
For just the first 6.5 months of 2020 = $168,202,362,816 Billion as of 3:15 PM today.
So building a 5 Billion wall would have saved us 163+ Billion.... :eek:
Good thing that the Progressive Socialist Dim-Moe-Rats fought off those savings... :rolleyes:

Invading criminal army numbers so far in 2020 = 218,324
Total invading criminal army numbers currently in the U.S. = 27,087,276

Numbers compiled by Federation for American Immigration, DHS, Yale, MIT...
So spending that $5 billion would have eliminated all illegal immigration? All illegals would have jumped back across the border and no one would have overstayed their visas? That’s some InstaGator math there for you. You must have gone to the same school as Sunburnt.
 
Sounds like Texas HHS has a leaker...bet they move heaven and earth to get them and fire them. Had this furthered the lefts narrative they would be a slow walk to discovery and everyone hailing the leaker as a hero.

In fact if from the left the leak would have been unofficially sanctioned by the leadership.

As for the numbers they are extrapolating but even then the numbers didn't match mine...off in the 100th or thousandth range so minor and I probably did not calculate it the same way they did.

But its likely that the difference is due to the change in population over the 3 years and those numbers were not given.
 
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Something is wrong with those figures. By my calculations, the recovery percentage for the flu was only 70%. Unless they are calculating as a percentage of the total population, in which case it’s misleading. Is this an official report or some Tards meme? Next, calculate what the percentages would be if we didn’t wear masks, quarantine for six weeks and social distance. Otherwise, it’s not comparable.

Misleading Lib-tards only want the categories that their own paid propaganda corp puts out.

The number of those infected by the Kung Flu are no more important than those with the common cold. :rolleyes:

How many that were otherwise healthy died directly due to being infected with the Kung Flu? :cool:

How many of those Kung Flu infected were treated with any of the 3 proven cures that I posted in the CURE thread? o_O

IF those 3 cures were widely used, then the need for Masks, distancing, and shut-downs, would all be made totally unnecessary. :oops:

So, why aren't the cures being widely used? :confused:

Because the Progressive Socialist Dim-Moe-Rats (along with their brainwashed sheep & podlings) are making their usual play for Money & Power that is created by their all-consuming Greed, and a fanatical hate for a FREE Constitutional Republic America. :eek:

What they do is only comparable to sedition and treason imoho....
 
Something is wrong with those figures. By my calculations, the recovery percentage for the flu was only 70%. Unless they are calculating as a percentage of the total population, in which case it’s misleading. Is this an official report or some Tards meme? Next, calculate what the percentages would be if we didn’t wear masks, quarantine for six weeks and social distance. Otherwise, it’s not comparable.

Ah yes its extrapolated by for the flu and covid both.

If you don't extrapolate flu is still deadlier.

Now I would say you cant really know the impact of social distancing BUT the cruise ships give us an indication. The positive rate was ~ 20% similar to the two flus listed. If you double the rate of positives for covid to get 20% rate and assume also the deaths also double you have a similar death rate to seasonal flu but still lower.

There has been 10x the testing for covid yet extrapolation falls below 300-350K to 250K for covid.

Lastly of the dead from flu how many got the flu diagnosis after they had died. In other words, had they not died they would not have been found to be a positive case. In the case of covid not just the very sick are being tested now since we see 10x more tests than the flu.

This is skewed against age and apparently corona dosen't know that age discrimination is against the law in the USoA

@ 10x normal testing for the flu which goalpost gets moved on Trump next?
 
So spending that $5 billion would have eliminated all illegal immigration? All illegals would have jumped back across the border and no one would have overstayed their visas? That’s some InstaGator math there for you. You must have gone to the same school as Sunburnt.

So it's only around 2 Billion a year added to the 168 Billion for the total.
The last 3 years would put that number at around an additional 6 Billion.
Happy now? :rolleyes:

How many criminal invaders have crossed the border since Trump has been in office?
More importantly, how may American citizens have been murdered by those criminal invading army members? :mad: (stolen property, assaults, rapes, etc)

The wall and the Kung Flu has greatly slowed the 2020 rate numbers.
And not having the wall means that the 168 Billion YEARLY cost will continue to add and escalate over time. :eek:
(how much infrastructure would that cost pay for, if not needed to support the criminal invading army?)

With a wall, not only will it greatly reduce the numbers getting in, but it will also end, or at least greatly reduce those that have been deported 10-20 times already, only to recross again and again. :confused:

Your own stupid arguments to stop and prevent the criminal invading army, are as empty as your heart and soul, which I wonder if you even have. Certainly not in touch with them IF you still have them. :rolleyes:

PS
The O'bomba / Biden immigration reform failures plus his un-Constitutional DACA crap is what got that 160+ Billion cost up there. Trump has been fighting to end both problems. o_O
 
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So it's only around 2 Billion a year added to the 168 Billion for the total.
The last 3 years would put that number at around an additional 6 Billion.
Happy now? :rolleyes:

How many criminal invaders have crossed the border since Trump has been in office?
More importantly, how may American citizens have been murdered by those criminal invading army members? :mad: (stolen property, assaults, rapes, etc)

The wall and the Kung Flu has greatly slowed the 2020 rate numbers.
And not having the wall means that the 168 Billion YEARLY cost will continue to add and escalate over time. :eek:
(how much infrastructure would that cost pay for, if not needed to support the criminal invading army?)

With a wall, not only will it greatly reduce the numbers getting in, but it will also end, or at least greatly reduce those that have been deported 10-20 times already, only to recross again and again. :confused:

Your own stupid arguments to stop and prevent the criminal invading army, are as empty as your heart and soul, which I wonder if you even have. Certainly not in touch with them IF you still have them. :rolleyes:

PS
The O'bomba / Biden immigration reform failures plus his un-Constitutional DACA crap is what got that 160+ Billion cost up there. Trump has been fighting to end both problems. o_O
I’m in favor of a secure border. I’m just not in favor of Misleading and erroneous mathematical calculations. Do better next time.
 
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And what do you know....they were also inflating the hoax flu numbers:



That's two states now that have falsified the numbers and inflated them by up to tenfold.

Note, not a single dem here has said a word about either case. Yall don't give a shit about the truth, you just want to get rid of Trump. You should at least own that like men.
 
And what do you know....they were also inflating the hoax flu numbers:



That's two states now that have falsified the numbers and inflated them by up to tenfold.

Note, not a single dem here has said a word about either case. Yall don't give a shit about the truth, you just want to get rid of Trump. You should at least own that like men.
This wasn't a mistake it was flawed calculations (purposely done) from the CDC and state Health Dept officials.
 
Ah yes its extrapolated by for the flu and covid both.

If you don't extrapolate flu is still deadlier.

Now I would say you cant really know the impact of social distancing BUT the cruise ships give us an indication. The positive rate was ~ 20% similar to the two flus listed. If you double the rate of positives for covid to get 20% rate and assume also the deaths also double you have a similar death rate to seasonal flu but still lower.

There has been 10x the testing for covid yet extrapolation falls below 300-350K to 250K for covid.

Lastly of the dead from flu how many got the flu diagnosis after they had died. In other words, had they not died they would not have been found to be a positive case. In the case of covid not just the very sick are being tested now since we see 10x more tests than the flu.

This is skewed against age and apparently corona dosen't know that age discrimination is against the law in the USoA

@ 10x normal testing for the flu which goalpost gets moved on Trump next?
What does this have to do with Trump? You guys are so defensive you can’t even think straight. This is about how deadly the CV is. Obviously it’s a lot more deadly overall because there is no vaccine and people haven’t built up an immunity to it. The deaths would be significantly higher were the elderly and others with preexisting conditions not isolating. We saw what happens when it spread through nursing homes.
 
Tell me again why we need to shut down the country?
KJ, in a previous thread you mentioned managing patients under your care. Could you please let us know what type of clinician you are. Are you a MD? An infectious disease specialist? I'm sure many of us would be keen to learn your training background. Much obliged.
 
KJ, in a previous thread you mentioned managing patients under your care. Could you please let us know what type of clinician you are. Are you a MD? An infectious disease specialist? I'm sure many of us would be keen to learn your training background. Much obliged.

IOW you want to attack the messenger for giving facts that prove that hoax flu is no worse than the common seasonal flu.

You got duped, bro.
 
What does this have to do with Trump? You guys are so defensive you can’t even think straight. This is about how deadly the CV is. Obviously it’s a lot more deadly overall because there is no vaccine and people haven’t built up an immunity to it. The deaths would be significantly higher were the elderly and others with preexisting conditions not isolating. We saw what happens when it spread through nursing homes.

The authors of the study out of La Jolla Institute for Immunology wrote, “Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2−reactive cells in 40 to 60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating ‘common cold’ coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2.”

https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674(20)30610-3

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/people-build-immunity-coronavirus-common-cold/

Also people with type O blood are less likely to catch covid than other blood types.

As for death rate , it is mostly in the elderly and that is already cooked into the books with near zero rate for those under 30 and a low rate under 49. Averages . Isolation you say like NY where they put covids in the nursing homes ?

Same places that account for 40+% of all deaths and people are concerned about Fla, Az and Texas?

With the left EVERYTHING is about Trump and changing narratives daily to attack him.

Data is in. No reason for lockdown of country. Fauci will resign once he gets tired of the attacks. Trump and Pence will defend Fauci until resignation.

New person will be a "no more lock downs" guy. Social distancing will be a thing for a while in stores etc . Bars will re-open without SD. Covid will spread quickly among young and herd immunity will be achieved rapidly.

Elderly and vulnerable will need to SD and isolate as much as possible.

While there is no vaccine yet there are a plethora of therapies HCQ regime early andas possible prophylaxis. Redemisvir in more advanced stages, and two steroids to deal with lung issues. These do not save everyone but are cutting death rates in half or better. Vaccine trials already underway.

Country and schools will re-open.

Hopefully in time to get economy running well enough to get Trump re-elected and Ginsburgs replacement Amy Barrett in place and Roe and Oberberfell out the door between now and 2025 . Just in time to hand off a renewed America to Ted Cruz to finish implementing the Reagan revolution .
 
I’m in favor of a secure border. I’m just not in favor of Misleading and erroneous mathematical calculations. Do better next time.

You could have posted more in-depth numbers yourself, instead of just spouting off with your usual Yap-Yap-Yap... :confused:

Your Progressive Socialist Dim-Moe-Rat propagandists (Pil-Low-See) said that Trumps 5 Billion Wall was too costly and unnecessary. Your type laps that up and then proceeds to Yap-Yap-Yap,,, instead of facing reality and supporting your President. :cool:
 
The authors of the study out of La Jolla Institute for Immunology wrote, “Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2−reactive cells in 40 to 60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating ‘common cold’ coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2.”

https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674(20)30610-3

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/people-build-immunity-coronavirus-common-cold/

Also people with type O blood are less likely to catch covid than other blood types.

As for death rate , it is mostly in the elderly and that is already cooked into the books with near zero rate for those under 30 and a low rate under 49. Averages . Isolation you say like NY where they put covids in the nursing homes ?

Same places that account for 40+% of all deaths and people are concerned about Fla, Az and Texas?

With the left EVERYTHING is about Trump and changing narratives daily to attack him.

Data is in. No reason for lockdown of country. Fauci will resign once he gets tired of the attacks. Trump and Pence will defend Fauci until resignation.

New person will be a "no more lock downs" guy. Social distancing will be a thing for a while in stores etc . Bars will re-open without SD. Covid will spread quickly among young and herd immunity will be achieved rapidly.

Elderly and vulnerable will need to SD and isolate as much as possible.

While there is no vaccine yet there are a plethora of therapies HCQ regime early andas possible prophylaxis. Redemisvir in more advanced stages, and two steroids to deal with lung issues. These do not save everyone but are cutting death rates in half or better. Vaccine trials already underway.

Country and schools will re-open.

Hopefully in time to get economy running well enough to get Trump re-elected and Ginsburgs replacement Amy Barrett in place and Roe and Oberberfell out the door between now and 2025 . Just in time to hand off a renewed America to Ted Cruz to finish implementing the Reagan revolution .
Wow. Talk about stream of consciousness. Take a breath.

But good post.Except for Ted Cruz. He has the personality of a dead fish.
 
Wow. Talk about stream of consciousness. Take a breath.

But good post.Except for Ted Cruz. He has the personality of a dead fish.

Bitch slapped yet again with reality, then more whining and the ueual thrown dead fish confetti... :rolleyes:

Yap-Yap-Yap,,, ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
 
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