UCF's "small stadium" bigger than Vanderbilt

[Jeff from Jax]

NOTE: UCF's "samll stadium" is bigger than Vanderbilt's and within 4,000 seats of Colorado.

Perhaps some of the other posters should have done their homework, before yapping about UCF's stadium size.

UF does not travel well any more; few schools do. The 4,000 tickets UCF saves for opponents will probably be bought by Gators, there is no way in hell we carry 4,000 fans out to Colorado.

Vanderbily seating capacity - 40,550
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-football-stadiums-by-capacity-in-2018/

Since the 2014 renovations, Spectrum Stadium's seating capacity is 44,206.[4] The attendance record as of the 2017 season was 48,453 for an October 18, 2009 match-up against the Miami Hurricanes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_Stadium

Gators don't take any real number of fans to away games anymore, except Jacksonville, but I think that we should only play Vanderbilt at home until they expand their stadiums. LOL

 

[PacoGator19]

NOTE: UCF's "samll stadium" is bigger than Vanderbilt's and within 4,000 seats of Colorado.

Perhaps some of the other posters should have done their homework, before yapping about UCF's stadium size.

UF does not travel well any more; few schools do. The 4,000 tickets UCF saves for opponents will probably be bought by Gators, there is no way in hell we carry 4,000 fans out to Colorado.

Vanderbily seating capacity - 40,550
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-football-stadiums-by-capacity-in-2018/

Since the 2014 renovations, Spectrum Stadium's seating capacity is 44,206.[4] The attendance record as of the 2017 season was 48,453 for an October 18, 2009 match-up against the Miami Hurricanes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_Stadium

Gators don't take any real number of fans to away games anymore, except Jacksonville, but I think that we should only play Vanderbilt at home until they expand their stadiums. LOL

UCFs stadium is an erector set and even when they have had every good teams the last 2 year their attendance has not been good at all.

UCF does not have an SEC like atmosphere where they would even be remotely close to being considered to join the SEC.

 

[CountyGator2]

NOTE: UCF's "samll stadium" is bigger than Vanderbilt's and within 4,000 seats of Colorado.

Perhaps some of the other posters should have done their homework, before yapping about UCF's stadium size.

UF does not travel well any more; few schools do. The 4,000 tickets UCF saves for opponents will probably be bought by Gators, there is no way in hell we carry 4,000 fans out to Colorado.

Vanderbily seating capacity - 40,550
https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/sec-football-stadiums-by-capacity-in-2018/

Since the 2014 renovations, Spectrum Stadium's seating capacity is 44,206.[4] The attendance record as of the 2017 season was 48,453 for an October 18, 2009 match-up against the Miami Hurricanes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_Stadium

Gators don't take any real number of fans to away games anymore, except Jacksonville, but I think that we should only play Vanderbilt at home until they expand their stadiums. LOL

I missed it. Did someone say vandy had a big stadium?

 

[instaGATOR]

Jeff is becoming the fevered brains step child it seems.

Today, Vandy would not be an SEC candidate. They are a 1932 Charter Member so they will remain 'Grand-Fathered' in. Plus Vandy compets in other SEC sports at a better level than in football. What does UCF have in other sports?

VU is a long standing 'High Standards' academic institution, while UCF is a commuter school at an academic JuCo level.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

UCFs stadium is an erector set and even when they have had every good teams the last 2 year their attendance has not been good at all.

UCF does not have an SEC like atmosphere where they would even be remotely close to being considered to join the SEC.

Paco,

1. No one is proposing UCF or USF for SEC admision

2. Capacity at UCF stadium is 44, 206; average attendance for 2018 was
42, 196. - 95.5 % of capacity. How good can their attendance possibly be ?
http://www.nicholsonstudentmedia.co...cle_3fbc13e6-e09e-11e8-95f2-9bb8b5814520.html

3. UF Home attendance (7 games) - 82,328 / game; 93% of capacity
subtract LSU; UF falls to 81,003/game; 91.5 % of capacity

We just signed a 2 for 1 agreement with USF.
USF plays in Raymond James - listed capacity of 65,890; average home attendance for 2018 was 38,517 - .58.5 % of capacity.
https://www.tampabay.com/sports/usf-bulls/2018/11/29/usf-announces-football-attendance-increase/

In 2018, UF, in the midst of a 10-3 record & a return from the dead, had only one home game with an over capacity sell out - LSU - 90, 283 - 1735 more (1.96%) than listed capacity (88,548) of Ben Hill Griffin stadium.

Gators have had a policy of playing smaller state teams for years. They have played Florida A&M, USF, UCF,
FlU (2009) Gators under Teabow crush Panthers https://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=293250057
&
FAU (2015) Gators narrowly avert an OT upset n the swamp.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400603924

With exception of LSU & possibly USC (least) published attendance makes it doubtfull that any other teams brought any fans to town to eat, rent rooms, etc.

What is the difference between playing USF versus UCF, other than the 2 for 1 we already have from USF ?

Can't play them every year, but, IMO, sporadic home games against UCF & USF - two close by, state schools could help UF home game attendance; something Colorado State, Idaho, & Charleston Southern can't possibly do !

 

[Jeff from Jax]

Jeff is becoming the fevered brains step child it seems.

VU is a long standing 'High Standards' academic institution, while UCF is a commuter school at an academic JuCo level.

Insta, perhaps you can document UCF being at JUCO level, instead of just pulling something out of your ass.

My sister on the faculty at UCF & as usual, you unsupported opinions are worthless

Selected academic rankings According to US News -
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Vanderbilt.......14
Univ Florida ....35
Univ Ga............46
Univ Miami......53
FSU..................70
USF..................124

UCF................165

Miss State ...177

 

[instaGATOR]

No return game vs home & home or a 2 for 1.

The bottom line is that home games pay UF the most.

UCF and USF are welcome, and have been, as NRG opponents.

Demands to alter that to H&H or 2 for 1 have changed that.

Were it me, I'd tell them to continue the NRG offer or go pound sand...
Credit to USF, when offered an extra benefit 2 for 1, they jumped on it.
UCF with the same offer tried to dictate demands and so got told to go pound sand...
Because of that, I'd tell then that it's a NRG or try to schedule the scUM or FSUcks H&H.

 

[Jeff from Jax]

I sure that NRG can potentially pay more than H&H or 2 for 1 games.

Problem is that the only schools willing to play NRG with UF dont excite our fans & they don't support them as well as they used to.

UF Home attendance (7 games) - 82,328 / game; 93% of capacity
subtract LSU; UF falls to 81,003/game; 91.5 % of capacity.

In 2018 only one home game had an over capacity crowd - LSU - 90, 283 - 1735 more (1.96%) than listed capacity (88,548) of Ben Hill Griffin stadium.

In 2017, again, only one home game had an over capacity crowd - FSU - 89,066 518 more (.0058 %) than listed capacity.

Here is the list of top capacity crowds for Ben Hill Griffin Sfadium, none of them reflect little sisters of the poor opponents in a NRG. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Hill_Griffin_Stadium#Top_attendance

Insta, as a former business analyst, I can assure you that your solution - demanding NRG from poor quality opponents (the only ones who will play in a NRG scenario) is showing diminishing returns & will no longer work !

Open your eyes & look ! Your solution is nothing but a slow & painful trip to the poor house for my beloved Gators !

Something must change to stop declining home football attendance ! WiFi in the stadium & flashy scoreboards by themselves are not enough !

Why else would Scott Stricklin agree to the 2 for 1 with USF ?

Insta, I also note that you could not document your assertion that academically, UCF is at the JUCO level.

Emotional statements typically fall short when placed under the microscope & examined critically.

 

[sadgator]

man, the actual season cannot get here fast enough...

 

[instaGATOR]

I sure that NRG can potentially pay more than H&H or 2 for 1 games.

Problem is that the only schools willing to play NRG with UF dont excite our fans & they don't support them as well as they used to.

UF Home attendance (7 games) - 82,328 / game; 93% of capacity
subtract LSU; UF falls to 81,003/game; 91.5 % of capacity.

In 2018 only one home game had an over capacity crowd - LSU - 90, 283 - 1735 more (1.96%) than listed capacity (88,548) of Ben Hill Griffin stadium.

In 2017, again, only one home game had an over capacity crowd - FSU - 89,066 518 more (.0058 %) than listed capacity.

Here is the list of top capacity crowds for Ben Hill Griffin Sfadium, none of them reflect little sisters of the poor opponents in a NRG. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Hill_Griffin_Stadium#Top_attendance

Insta, as a former business analyst, I can assure you that your solution - demanding NRG from poor quality opponents (the only ones who will play in a NRG scenario) is showing diminishing returns & will no longer work !

Open your eyes & look ! Your solution is nothing but a slow & painful trip to the poor house for my beloved Gators !

Something must change to stop declining home football attendance ! WiFi in the stadium & flashy scoreboards by themselves are not ebough !

Why else would Scott Stricklin agree to the 2 for 1 with USF ?

Insta, I also note that you could not document your assertion that academically, UCF is at the JUCO level.

Emotional statements typically fall short when placed under the microscope & examined critically.

All of an 82,000 home cupcake is still way better than a small part of a 44,000 UCF away game. Not even close. And if they just want numbers in the SWAMP for a cupcake, then put a big discount on those games. Let the little guys have a game and not just those that can afford a high $$ ticket and day in the SWAMP. Have a 'family day,' or a 'kid's day', or a 'Mom and daughter day.' -- For the unearned arrogance that UCF has displayed towards UF, they can play The Citadel at home, instead of the Gator's in the SWAMP to try and build up their rep on that....

BTW, I'm not trying to prove squat to you. You can't assure me of Jack! I hadn't heard that UCF was now considered a southern Harvard... It's up to you to prove me incorrect if you can.

And sometimes, appearance is larger than fact. Liberal-socialists live on binary debate bs.
'If you don't agree with me,,, then you're not a true Gator..' (that kind of binary crap)
Personally, I don't much G-a-S what you believe or don't believe.

 

[PacoGator19]

I live here in Orlando. Those are inflated UCF attendance numbers. Their stadium is typically about half full for the majority of their games. The stadium is also an erector set and literally shakes, etc. It was built on the cheap.

 

[kb851]

Vanderbilt is in conference

Colorado is too far to draw that many Gator fans, and does carry the cache of the PAC 12

And, UCF on campus stadium has other weird issues unrelated to their conference, it is just dangerous

 

[UCFKnight85]

I live here in Orlando. Those are inflated UCF attendance numbers. Their stadium is typically about half full for the majority of their games. The stadium is also an erector set and literally shakes, etc. It was built on the cheap.

Lol it’s pretty sad you have to lie like this due to your insecurities as a UF fan

Face it, your program is run by scared little pussies

 

[oozie7]

If Vandy wasn’t a conference member, I doubt we’d play them either. It simply makes no sense for UF to play UCF in a 40k seat stadium where our fans likely full half the stadium. We’d basically be helping them fill their gate. UF offered to play the game at a neutral site, they declined, why are we talking about it?

They’re a G5 school, many others had to take worse deals on their way up. But UCF gets to skip the line because what? Two successful seasons in a row? Teams like Boise played anyone anywhere for years before they could get home and homes. Won multiple big games and took whatever deal they could get until they weren’t on even footing. UCF just shows up and starts demanding them.

 

[CountyGator2]

Lol it’s pretty sad you have to lie like this due to your insecurities as a UF fan

Face it, your program is run by scared little pussies

Very true. We are scared your stadium might collapse and injure the 30k Gator fans that would be there for the game.

 

[PacoGator19]

Lol it’s pretty sad you have to lie like this due to your insecurities as a UF fan

Face it, your program is run by scared little pussies

Fact. Spectrum stadium is not very nice and was built on the cheap. UCFs attendance is not very good which is also a fact.

 

[instaGATOR]

Useless Commuter Fakes - 2018 Schedule to get their 12-1 record:

1-11 U-Conn
D2 SCaSt
5-7 FAU
7-7 Pitt
5-7 SMU
8-6 Memp
3-9 ECa
8-5 Temple (Cincy lost to Temple)
3-10 Navy
11-2 Cincy (5 Opp's with even a winning record, only 2 with 9+ wins)
7-6 USF
8-6 Memp - Again for the AAC-C
Pussy Champs, in a Pussy Wannabee League
-----
10-3 LSU 40 - 32 UCF Fiesta Bowl
(UF 27 - 19 LSU)

The very definition of what an AAC, total pussy regular season schedule looks like....

 

[instaGATOR]

bump due to da chumps....

 

[LizardGrad89]

Lol it’s pretty sad you have to lie like this due to your insecurities as a UF fan

Face it, your program is run by scared little pussies

Earn some respect before demanding it.

We offered you the 2 for 1, you were "too good" for it. USF took it. Sucks to be you.

 

[Lord Christopher]

Earn some respect before demanding it.

We offered you the 2 for 1, you were "too good" for it. USF took it. Sucks to be you.

No you did not. Their was no official offer made and therefore nothing to agree to. No Danny White has made it public that we would except that 2-1 but the one has to be played at Spectrum Stadium not the Citrus Dump.

Florida and FSU have refused to play us for years.

 

[Lord Christopher]

UCF is gaining ground on your athletic program and your athletic director knows it.

Further proof is when your AD now refuses to play home and home in baseball.

The last time we played in men’s basketball we beat your ass like a Cherokee Drum.

But, go ahead and keep thinking we are just a CC.

Little brother is no longer the little guy.

 

[PacoGator19]

UCF is gaining ground on your athletic program and your athletic director knows it.

Further proof is when your AD now refuses to play home and home in baseball.

The last time we played in men’s basketball we beat your ass like a Cherokee Drum.

But, go ahead and keep thinking we are just a CC.

Little brother is no longer the little guy.

Your joking right??

 

[PacoGator19]

No you did not. Their was no official offer made and therefore nothing to agree to. No Danny White has made it public that we would except that 2-1 but the one has to be played at Spectrum Stadium not the Citrus Dump.

Florida and FSU have refused to play us for years.

Camping World Stadium is much much nicer than the erector set that UCF plays in that the bleachers actually shake. It was built on the cheap. Camping World just got approved for a $60m renovation as well.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

 

[CountyGator2]

UCF is gaining ground on your athletic program and your athletic director knows it.

Further proof is when your AD now refuses to play home and home in baseball.

The last time we played in men’s basketball we beat your ass like a Cherokee Drum.

But, go ahead and keep thinking we are just a CC.

Little brother is no longer the little guy.

Really? Very cool story though.

 

[LizardGrad89]

UCF is gaining ground on your athletic program and your athletic director knows it.

Further proof is when your AD now refuses to play home and home in baseball.

The last time we played in men’s basketball we beat your ass like a Cherokee Drum.

But, go ahead and keep thinking we are just a CC.

Little brother is no longer the little guy.

You certainly have little man syndrome, though.

 

[LizardGrad89]

No you did not. Their was no official offer made and therefore nothing to agree to. No Danny White has made it public that we would except that 2-1 but the one has to be played at Spectrum Stadium not the Citrus Dump.

Florida and FSU have refused to play us for years.

Why make an official offer when the preliminary talks are rejected? You aren't important enough for us to waste 5 minutes on. When we hit four minutes it was time to move on.

Remember this? That was your 4 minutes.

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...t-stricklin-welcome-2-1-series-vs-ucf-knights

 

[instaGATOR]

I say keep them in the patsy zone with NRG,,, unless and until they win one of those games in the SWAMP. IF/WHEN they win one, then they can talk about getting a better H&H deal.

They don't like it, then go fish for games with other Power-5 teams in the lesser conferences, instead of the SEC.

Beat any power 5 conference champ, then give us a call and maybe....

 

[Lord Christopher]

I say keep them in the patsy zone with NRG,,, unless and until they win one of those games in the SWAMP. IF/WHEN they win one, then they can talk about getting a better H&H deal.

They don't like it, then go fish for games with other Power-5 teams in the lesser conferences, instead of the SEC.

Beat any power 5 conference champ, then give us a call and maybe....

You must have a short memory. We did, Baylor in 2013. Other P5's we have beaten include Georgia, Auburn, Alabama, Penn State, Maryland, Pittsburgh, NC State, Syracuse to name a few.

Personally, I don't care if we ever play you guys. We will schedule and play other P5 schools for sure. Anyway, I'm done with this thread. See you later.

 

[instaGATOR]

Big 12/10/whatever champs Baylor, with NO Conf. Championship game in 2013, in the biggest NO-DEFENSE Conf. in D1 football. UCF and USF should both petition to join the Big12/10/whatever, so they will again at least have the 12 'supposedly required teams' to play a Conf Championship game.Then IF/when you're a real conference champ, you won't have to whine for a spot in the CFP.

UCF is begging/demanding UF for a game, not the other way around, and then demanding concessions on where the game is played,,, laughable..

BTW, the Big12/10/whatever has won 2 NC's this century.
2000 OK vs FSUcks and 2005 Tx vs USCw, neither are SEC teams...

Put UCF in the SEC with an 8-9 SEC game schedule, and they would be lucky to make a bowl game each year...