Two Interesting Recruiting Rumors I Heard

[Michi-Gator]

1. Mac is apparently still trying to meet with QB and Maryland committ Haskins (oozie's boy).

2. All indications I have seen say that we are the leader for Manuel.


Any info from any others out there???

 

[oozie7]

Oozie's boys are Eason and Buechle, too bad neither are coming. But I do like Haskins a lot, probably my favorite of the guys we have a chance at getting.

 

[NoviG8r]

Don't care about Haskins. Look for a possible grad-transfer who could compete next year with Del Rio and the Freshmen. Landing Manuel would make me very happy, as would 2 more top WR's and another offensive lineman.

 

[Michi-Gator]

Don't care about Haskins. Look for a possible grad-transfer from Pac-12 who could compete next year with Del Rio and the Freshmen. Landing Manuel would make me very happy, as would 2 more top WR's and another offensive lineman.

I think we land Victor, whom I opine to be a very special talent

 

[oozie7]

Looking for a 1-year grad transfer is flawed. So they start all of next year then what? In year 3 you're doing looking for a QB again. If none of the current players on campus are the answer then just play one of the freshmen and be done with it. At least you're building towards something and will go into the next year with experience at the QB position.

 

[instaGATOR]

First off, finally develop past recruits like TE/WR Moral Stevens 6-3 240 **** rsSo in 2016.
HS-Sr - 56 catches for 1,105 yards, 19.7 yds/rec, with 14 touchdown.
Leaving this kid to languish on the bench is almost a crime imoho.

Second, start benching the ones 'that don't put-out on game days,' when it's most important.
Dropped balls should 'earn' the receiver a trip to the bench, so that the next guy on the depth chart can get his chance to 'gitter done' for the team. (currently Goolsby plays, Stevens sits)

Third, I don't care about getting any more QB's in this class (Eason/Haskins/ect). I want to see one of the 2 incoming EE Fr win the job, and then for the other one to get some 'quality playing time' in every game, so that maybe he stays at UF. Having a 1b 'real quality' QB at backup for a change would be very nice imo.

Develop what's already on the roster.
Bring in another good recruiting class.
Continue to move forward as a TEAM.
(pretty simple really)

 

[oozie7]

People tend to forget those dudes are transferring for a reason...they weren't good enough to play where they were. Why delay development of guys who will be on the team beyond a year for that? Unless it's a Russell Wilson type who's proven to be legit and is transferring to go to a better school it's not worth it.

 

[PacoGator19]

People tend to forget those dudes are transferring for a reason...they weren't good enough to play where they were. Why delay development of guys who will be on the team beyond a year for that? Unless it's a Russell Wilson type who's proven to be legit and is transferring to go to a better school it's not worth it.

Baker Mayfield

 

[oozie7]

Baker Mayfield

Baker Mayfield transferred because he felt Kingsbury lied to him by not giving him a scholarship like he promised after he walked on. Either way that's one example. The majority of the time QB's don't transfer elsewhere and light it up. If they were good they'd be playing and not leaving.

 

[passoverGator]

We need the dude from TT just to give another option. Not excited about starting a true freshman in Franks.

 

[Deathroll]

Manual told Hollywood Bob he was 85% Gators.....Every indication I've heard is that he's been leaning toward the Gators for some time so I do believe we'll get him. I don't think we'll take any other DT's and will probably load up on the position next year.

On the WR front...I think NCM is playing with people listing all those out of state schools and not mentioning UF or sow. I think its a UF/sow battle for him. I doubt we have a shot with Eli Stove or Sam Bruce but we'll keep trying. I think you'd have to say we're the odds on favorite for Tre Nixon. Victor....I dunno. First I heard all Gators then it was that he was likely gone to Ohio State and lately I've heard that the Gators are regaining ground with him so who knows? Cleveland....I hadn't heard much of him until recently but he is originally a Jacksonville boy and by all accounts does like the Gators. Would he really stick with Houston rather than going to UF???

If we can get 2 of the above I'll be quite happy with this WR class. If we get 3 of 'em I'll be ecstatic. I'm not sure if Rick Wells will end up in the class or not - I think it depends on how many of the above we get.

We're still recruiting DE Brian Burns hard and supposedly we lead for him. Not sure if we're really pursuing or are still in it for other DE's.

We're hard after 5 star LB Lyndell Wilson (He says we lead but I suspect he's thinking Bama) and 2-3 more highly rated LBs including 5 star Dylan Moses (I'm pretty sure he ends up at Bama...if so hopefully that helps us land Wilson).

OL.....We're pursuing 3 star Marcus Tatum hard and supposedly we lead for him. Incidentally, I have no idea why he's a 3 star. Everybody (ie Tennessee, fsu, Bama, us etc etc) is recruiting him hard. We're also after 4 star Landon Dickerson - our chances aren't great IMO but we're one of his top 4-5 schools as of now. We're also a Juco OL from Pennsylvania whose name escapes me at the moment and I think there are 1-2 more OL we're going after.

We're looking at a couple TE's but I'm not sure if we'll take one or not.

At CB we are still recruiting 4 star Jayvaughn Myers and 4 star Kristian Fulton hard.

There is talk that the Gators are pursuing Texas Tech grad transfer QB Davis Webb. I've heard some mention of the Gators trying to go after aTm transfer QB Kyle Allen but he would have to sit for a year even if we did get him and I think this one is more a hope than us being a serious contender for him.

That's more or less 20 recruits (slightly more) we are pursuing hard. The staff is certainly not acting like we only have 3 more schollies to give. That, and Coach Mac specifically mentioning "28-30" leads me to think 28 is not a hard limit for us in this class as some on the internet have claimed. Furthermore, there are several low ranking early commits who can always be "encouraged" to look elsewhere if we get anywhere near as many of these recruits as we want.

 

[MJWilliamson]

As Paco mentioned in another thread, there are some rumblings one of the transfers from T&M is looking at us too

 

[Deathroll]

As Paco mentioned in another thread, there are some rumblings one of the transfers from T&M is looking at us too

Kyle Allen. His dad is buds with Urban Meyer and he went and visited Ohio State's practices in Arizona (where he grew up). The problem with this is that JT Barrett is coming back AND Kyle Allen is not suited to running the option. We all remember how hideous it looked when they ordered John Brantley to run the option....because as they claimed after years of promising us they would never be so stupid as to do that "well gosh...we don't know how to coach any other scheme".

Therefore I have a hard time seeing Allen going there. The big thing we have working against us is that he'd have to pay his own way for a year if he went to an SEC school and I believe aTm's release was only good for non SEC schools. That's why I have a tough time seeing him coming to UF.

 

[MJWilliamson]

Therefore I have a hard time seeing Allen going there. The big thing we have working against us is that he'd have to pay his own way for a year if he went to an SEC school and I believe aTm's release was only good for non SEC schools. That's why I have a tough time seeing him coming to UF.

Yep, I agree. From what I hear there have been discussions though.

 

[PacoGator19]

I want Cleveland.

 

[oozie7]

I'd be good with Allen because I think he'd have three years to play. To hell with that one year noise.

 

[instaGATOR]

Just some of the recruits out there with UF offers, per ESPN Recruiting:

#1 DT Rashan Gray
#2 OT Willie Allen
#3 DT Rashard Lawrence
#1 TE-Y Isaac Nauta
#1 OLB Lyndell Wilson
#6 DT Derrick Brown
#2 CB Trayvon Mullen
#8 DT Shavar Manuel
#1 Ath Mecole Hardman
#3 CB Kristian Fulton
#4 CB Nigel Knott
#2 S Deontay Anderson
#2 WR Nate Craig-Myers
#4 OT E.J. Price
#5 OLB Ben Davis
#5 WR Demetris Robertson
#7 OT Jauan Williams
#7 WR A.J. Brown
#8 OLB Jeffrey McCulloch
#3 Ath Devin White
#9 OT Landon Dickerson
#9 CB Jackie Jones
#6 S Marquez Callaway
#7 S Migel Warrior
#7 ILB Dontavious Jackson
#8 S Brandon Burton
#1 TE-H Jacob Mathis
#11 WR Keith Gavin
#12 DT Michail Carter

Those are all as yet UN-committed ESPN Top 300's with UF offers per ESPN recruiting.
First come, First served....

 

[Michi-Gator]

Looking for a 1-year grad transfer is flawed. So they start all of next year then what? In year 3 you're doing looking for a QB again. If none of the current players on campus are the answer then just play one of the freshmen and be done with it. At least you're building towards something and will go into the next year with experience at the QB position.

This is how I feel, you can't keep putting a band-aid on it or you are never going to get to the next level

 

[Deathroll]

Just some of the recruits out there with UF offers, per ESPN Recruiting:

#1 DT Rashan Gray
#2 OT Willie Allen
#3 DT Rashard Lawrence
#1 TE-Y Isaac Nauta
#1 OLB Lyndell Wilson
#6 DT Derrick Brown
#2 CB Trayvon Mullen
#8 DT Shavar Manuel
#1 Ath Mecole Hardman
#3 CB Kristian Fulton
#4 CB Nigel Knott
#2 S Deontay Anderson
#2 WR Nate Craig-Myers
#4 OT E.J. Price
#5 OLB Ben Davis
#5 WR Demetris Robertson
#7 OT Jauan Williams
#7 WR A.J. Brown
#8 OLB Jeffrey McCulloch
#3 Ath Devin White
#9 OT Landon Dickerson
#9 CB Jackie Jones
#6 S Marquez Callaway
#7 S Migel Warrior
#7 ILB Dontavious Jackson
#8 S Brandon Burton
#1 TE-H Jacob Mathis
#11 WR Keith Gavin
#12 DT Michail Carter

Those are all as yet UN-committed ESPN Top 300's with UF offers per ESPN recruiting.
First come, First served....

The highlighted ones are guys we have a realistic shot with AFAIK. Maybe one or two more of the LB's and possibly 1-2 of the OL could be added to the list.

 

[instaGATOR]

The highlighted ones are guys we have a realistic shot with AFAIK. Maybe one or two more of the LB's and possibly 1-2 of the OL could be added to the list.

But on NSD, there are almost always 1-2 that seem to come completely out of nowhere.
Some will flip OUT, while some others will flip IN, count on it.
(Five Star DE Fowler, a last minute flip from FSU, for a recent example, or a couple of 4 Star flips from the scUM in last years class)

 

[BringBackBonner]

The highlighted ones are guys we have a realistic shot with AFAIK. Maybe one or two more of the LB's and possibly 1-2 of the OL could be added to the list.

The only guy on there we will likely land is Shavar, who doesn't start for his high school team.

 

[Deathroll]

The only guy on there we will likely land is Shavar, who doesn't start for his high school team.

I disagree.

 

[BringBackBonner]

I disagree.

Who else do you think we are favored to land?

 

[MJWilliamson]

Who else do you think we are favored to land?

He highlighted a total of six.

 

[Michi-Gator]

I think we land Victor

 

[BringBackBonner]

He highlighted a total of six.

He said realistic shot, which I agree with. All except Shavar are less than 50/50 shots IMO. Most in the 10-15% range.

 

[Michi-Gator]

He said realistic shot, which I agree with. All except Shavar are less than 50/50 shots IMO. Most in the 10-15% range.

I would say Jacob Mathis is well OVER a 50/50 chance.

 

[Deathroll]

Who else do you think we are favored to land?

Brian Burns
NCM
supposedly we've got a great shot with Victor from what I'm hearing
We also supposedly lead for Nixon
and lead for Tatum
Lyndell Wilson keep saying we lead (dunno if that's true or not but he says so)

Of those only Tatum is a 3 star and I have no idea why he's a 3 considering fsu, Tennessee us, Bama and others are pursuing him hard.

 

[MJWilliamson]

He said realistic shot, which I agree with. All except Shavar are less than 50/50 shots IMO. Most in the 10-15% range.

Sorry. I guess different people define things differently. To me, I define "realistic" and "favored" as pretty close to the same thing. But I guess I can see how someone else might think something less than a 50% chance to be realistic

 

[Deathroll]

Sorry. I guess different people define things differently. To me, I define "realistic" and "favored" as pretty close to the same thing. But I guess I can see how someone else might think something less than a 50% chance to be realistic

Good point. When I say realistic I don't mean favored....but say, top 3 or so...as in nobody would be surprised if he chose us. Unrealistic is thinking just because we've offered a guy along with 30 other schools then that means we've got a shot. Yeah we do of course but....c'mon. Nobody would expect that.

Would anybody be shocked if we landed Fulton? It looks like its us or LSU for him and while I realize it is difficult to pull a kid out of Louisiana that LSU wants, we are sending VHIII to the NFL and Tabor and Wilson will go next year. We booted 2 freshman CBs for discipline issues in the last year so we have nothing behind Wilson and Tabor. LSU OTOH signed one of the top CBs in the country last year and they've got more younger ones. Early PT and a good shot at seeing the field are better at UF than LSU. Ergo it would not shock me if we got him.

Wilson....says we lead. 2 of his best friends are committed to us. We have a big need at LB and lots of early PT to offer. Would it therefore be a big surprise if we got him? I don't think so. I suspect he favors Bama but we have a very realistic shot at landing him.

 

[instaGATOR]

we have nothing behind Wilson and Tabor.

WTF ???????

Most of these guys have the talent to play anywhere in the secondary.
2016 Roster:

CB Jalen Tabor Jr - Washington, DC
CB Quincy Wilson 6-1 209 Jr - Ft. Lauderdale
CB/Nic/FS Duke Dawson 5-10 204 Jr - Cross City
CB/Nic/FS Nick Washington 6-0 195 rsJr - Jacksonville
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FS Keanu Neal 6-1 216 Sr - Bushnell
SS Marcus Maye 6-0 207 rsSr - Melbourne
SS Marcell Harris 6-1 211 rsJr - Orlando
SS/QB Kylan Johnson 6-1 220 rsFr - Dallas, Tx

DB Michael Iorio 5-10 194 rsSr - Venice
DB Mark Norvelis 5-10 192 rsSr - Palm Bay
DB Garrett Stephens 5-9 187 rsJr - Louisville, Ky
DB D.L. Powell 6-0 193 rsJr - Alachua
DB Kerollin Francois 5-11 203 rsJr - Lake Worth
DB Eddie Giles 5-9 161 rsSo - Jupiter
DB Isaac O'Neal 5-9 180 rsFr - Lakeland
DB Chris Williamson 5-11 188 rsFr - Gainesville

2016 Recruits:

#3 CB(#6S) Chauncey Gardner II 5-11 190 **** 6.0 - Cocoa
#50 RB/CB McArthur Burnett 6-1 180 *** 5.5 - Pahokee
#58 Ath/CB Aaron Robinson 6-1 173 *** 5.5 - Deerfield Bch.
#79 CB Christopher McWilliams 5-11 164 *** 5.5 - Miami

#20 S Quincy Lenton 6-0 195 **** - Meridan MS
#39 S Jeawon Taylor 6-2 192 *** 5.6 - Montgomery, AL
#66 S Antonio Nelson 6-3 190 *** 5.6 - Montgomery, AL

 

[Dannygator1989]

I sincerely believe that some people don't understand how it works.

 

[Deathroll]

WTF ???????

Most of these guys have the talent to play anywhere in the secondary.
2016 Roster:

CB Jalen Tabor Jr - Washington, DC
CB Quincy Wilson 6-1 209 Jr - Ft. Lauderdale
CB/Nic/FS Duke Dawson 5-10 204 Jr - Cross City
CB/Nic/FS Nick Washington 6-0 195 rsJr - Jacksonville
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FS Keanu Neal 6-1 216 Sr - Bushnell
SS Marcus Maye 6-0 207 rsSr - Melbourne
SS Marcell Harris 6-1 211 rsJr - Orlando
SS/QB Kylan Johnson 6-1 220 rsFr - Dallas, Tx

DB Michael Iorio 5-10 194 rsSr - Venice
DB Mark Norvelis 5-10 192 rsSr - Palm Bay
DB Garrett Stephens 5-9 187 rsJr - Louisville, Ky
DB D.L. Powell 6-0 193 rsJr - Alachua
DB Kerollin Francois 5-11 203 rsJr - Lake Worth
DB Eddie Giles 5-9 161 rsSo - Jupiter
DB Isaac O'Neal 5-9 180 rsFr - Lakeland
DB Chris Williamson 5-11 188 rsFr - Gainesville

2016 Recruits:

#3 CB(#6S) Chauncey Gardner II 5-11 190 **** 6.0 - Cocoa
#50 RB/CB McArthur Burnett 6-1 180 *** 5.5 - Pahokee
#58 Ath/CB Aaron Robinson 6-1 173 *** 5.5 - Deerfield Bch.
#79 CB Christopher McWilliams 5-11 164 *** 5.5 - Miami

#20 S Quincy Lenton 6-0 195 **** - Meridan MS
#39 S Jeawon Taylor 6-2 192 *** 5.6 - Montgomery, AL
#66 S Antonio Nelson 6-3 190 *** 5.6 - Montgomery, AL

WTF Indeed. Dawson and Washington are Safeties, not Cornerbacks.

Then you list a bunch of walk ons. uhhh. no, we do NOT want to be relying on guys not good enough to get scholarship offers.

Then you list guys we are recruiting now. Yes we are signing a bunch this year because we have nothing behind Wilson and Tabor.....like I said. That's why we would be very attractive to a guy like Fulton.

 

[PacoGator19]

Baker Mayfield transferred because he felt Kingsbury lied to him by not giving him a scholarship like he promised after he walked on. Either way that's one example. The majority of the time QB's don't transfer elsewhere and light it up. If they were good they'd be playing and not leaving.

Jake Rudock. Couldn't start at Iowa and goes on to start at Michigan and have the best year of his college career. Jeff Driskel, Jacoby Brisett, Jacob Coker, Gunner Kiel as well. Its starting to happen much more than you think.

 

[instaGATOR]

WTF Indeed. Dawson and Washington are Safeties, not Cornerbacks.

Then you list a bunch of walk ons. uhhh. no, we do NOT want to be relying on guys not good enough to get scholarship offers.

Then you list guys we are recruiting now. Yes we are signing a bunch this year because we have nothing behind Wilson and Tabor.....like I said. That's why we would be very attractive to a guy like Fulton.

I agree that UF 'has room on it's roster' for ANY Top 10 CB who wants to come here.
Is Nickel a safety position, or a CB position, or both/either?
It's my claim that both Dawson and Washington can play CB if needed there, but I don't believe that either will be 'needed' at CB.
Dawson 5-10 204 was voted to the FL HS 1st Team All State Defense.
Washington 6-0 195 4.4/40 was a DB/S starter since he was in 8th grade.
Both were recruited by Alabama, among the many others...
They both play S for UF, but they can both play CB, and might if not for 5 star players like Poole,Tabor and VH-3.
I agree that they are not the best choice on the team to play CB, but they could, thus the 'nothing behind' comment being incorrect imoho.
We can disagree on this with no problems as far as I'm concerned.

Now, only 4 of the 8 that I listed as DB's, are listed as Walk-On's.

DB Michael Iorio 5-10 194 rsSr - Venice - Walk-On
DB Mark Norvelis 5-10 192 rsSr - Palm Bay - 2015 Walk-On
DB Kerollin Francois 5-11 203 rsJr - Lake Worth - Walk-On
DB Eddie Giles 5-9 161 rsSo - Jupiter - Walk-On

DB Garrett Stephens 5-9 187 rsJr - Louisville, Ky
HS Sr. 6 Ints, 5 defensive TD's, with 90+ tackles.
2013 UF's Most Valuable Special Teams Scout Member Award.
Chose UF over offers from Ky, UL & NW.

DB D.L. Powell 6-0 193 rsJr - Alachua - FL 5A 1st Team All State
Played WR/DB in HS. 76 for 1,402 yds, 20 TD's. 1 Int, 47 Tkls, 2 for loss.

DB Isaac O'Neal 5-9 180 rsFr - Lakeland - 3 yr starting QB in HS.
Awarded Best QB Award at Schumann's recruiting combine.
Invited to the Elite 11 Southern Region.
Recruited by Neb, MichSt, & WKy.

DB Chris Williamson 5-11 188 **** rsFr - Gainesville
FL 5A 1st Team All State
Offers: UF - AU, UG, UK, VU -- Mich, NC, NW, VaT, Va, etc...

 

[PacoGator19]

We are a little short at the CB spot. Only Chris Williamson of those guys you listed above in a scholarship player that we recruited. JC Jackson and Deondre Porter getting kicked out of school as hurt us at the CB position.

 

[instaGATOR]

Just because we got some to walk-on that others recruited doesn't lessen their value or talent levels imo. They were recruited by other quality programs. I do agree that they were all 2-3 star level coming in, so coach-um-up. About 1/2 of our players and our current recruits are 3 stars.

CB Jalen Tabor 6-0 191 ***** Jr - Washington, DC
CB Quincy Wilson 6-1 209 **** Jr - Ft. Lauderdale

CB Chris Williamson 5-11 188 **** rsFr - Gainesville
FL 5A 1st Team All State
Offers: UF - AU, UG, UK, VU -- Mich, NC, NW, VaT, Va, etc...

#3 CB(#6S) Chauncey Gardner II 5-11 190 **** 6.0 Fr - Cocoa
Offers: Everybody with a need and/or a brain.

Plus in the 2016 Class:

#50 RB/CB McArthur Burnett 6-1 180 *** - Pahokee
#58 Ath/CB Aaron Robinson 6-1 173 *** - Deerfield Bch.
#79 CB Christopher McWilliams 5-11 164 *** - Miami

Plus any others already on the roster that they can coach up to a playing level.
So I guess we'll just have to muddle thru the best we can with those few...

 

[Dannygator1989]

Truly don't think Insta understands walk-ons.

 

[Deathroll]

I agree that UF 'has room on it's roster' for ANY Top 10 CB who wants to come here.
Is Nickel a safety position, or a CB position, or both/either?
It's my claim that both Dawson and Washington can play CB if needed there, but I don't believe that either will be 'needed' at CB.
Dawson 5-10 204 was voted to the FL HS 1st Team All State Defense.
Washington 6-0 195 4.4/40 was a DB/S starter since he was in 8th grade.
Both were recruited by Alabama, among the many others...
They both play S for UF, but they can both play CB, and might if not for 5 star players like Poole,Tabor and VH-3.
I agree that they are not the best choice on the team to play CB, but they could, thus the 'nothing behind' comment being incorrect imoho.
We can disagree on this with no problems as far as I'm concerned.

Now, only 4 of the 8 that I listed as DB's, are listed as Walk-On's.

DB Michael Iorio 5-10 194 rsSr - Venice - Walk-On
DB Mark Norvelis 5-10 192 rsSr - Palm Bay - 2015 Walk-On
DB Kerollin Francois 5-11 203 rsJr - Lake Worth - Walk-On
DB Eddie Giles 5-9 161 rsSo - Jupiter - Walk-On

DB Garrett Stephens 5-9 187 rsJr - Louisville, Ky
HS Sr. 6 Ints, 5 defensive TD's, with 90+ tackles.
2013 UF's Most Valuable Special Teams Scout Member Award.
Chose UF over offers from Ky, UL & NW.

DB D.L. Powell 6-0 193 rsJr - Alachua - FL 5A 1st Team All State
Played WR/DB in HS. 76 for 1,402 yds, 20 TD's. 1 Int, 47 Tkls, 2 for loss.

DB Isaac O'Neal 5-9 180 rsFr - Lakeland - 3 yr starting QB in HS.
Awarded Best QB Award at Schumann's recruiting combine.
Invited to the Elite 11 Southern Region.
Recruited by Neb, MichSt, & WKy.

DB Chris Williamson 5-11 188 **** rsFr - Gainesville
FL 5A 1st Team All State
Offers: UF - AU, UG, UK, VU -- Mich, NC, NW, VaT, Va, etc...

Nickelback is more of a safety position. Its definitely not the place you would put your best corner....or somebody you trusted to put on an island against the other team's top receiving threat.

The other guys you listed bar Williamson are/were walk ons. They were not recruited scholarship players.

We have nothing behind Tabor/Wilson. That's why we're taking so many cornerbacks this year.

 

[instaGATOR]

Except that 5 Star CB Brian Poole often played Nickle.....

And we'll just have to disagree on what 'nothing' means, I guess.

Note: Louis Oliver was a Gator walkon DB......