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I wanted to be clear because you tend to switch up when you get caught in a tough spot.

So yes, you are calling the DOJ politicized based of a few bad apples but that same logic doesn't apply to police officers, in fact you hate when people do that. Very interesting.

No dummy...the DOJ as an enterprise is acting as a partisan organization.

I don't care what the individual employees believe. I care how the organization behaves. Get that through your thick skull and stop trying to twist and conflate what I've clearly said.

This is the absolute perfect example of how you are willing to lie to "win" an argument. I've clearly stated something else but you ignore those words and replace them with words that you prefer because you believe it helps you win, lol.

WTH is wrong with you? 😂
 
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No dummy...the DOJ as an enterprise is acting as a partisan organization.

I don't care what the individual employees believe. I care how the organization behaves. Get that through your thick skull and stop trying to twist and conflate what I've clearly said.

This is the absolute perfect example of how you are willing to lie to "win" an argument. I've clearly stated something else but you ignore those words and replace them with words that you prefer because you believe it helps you win, lol.

WTH is wrong with you? 😂
There is zero evidence that the entire DOJ as an organization is acting based on political reasons, zero. You and I both know that you're basing your comment off a few decisions that you didn't like, so you deemed them political. At the same time, we both know that you will spin it and get mad because you're in a corner.

The last thing I'll say about this is, I just find it interesting that you don't defend other branches of law enforcement.

Which when I think about it, it makes sense because the Republicans "love" police officers but hate the FBI and DOJ right now. Guess it shows that your politics is that strong.
 
There is zero evidence that the entire DOJ as an organization is acting based on political reasons, zero. You and I both know that you're basing your comment off a few decisions that you didn't like, so you deemed them political. At the same time, we both know that you will spin it and get mad because you're in a corner.

The last thing I'll say about this is, I just find it interesting that you don't defend other branches of law enforcement.

Which when I think about it, it makes sense because the Republicans "love" police officers but hate the FBI and DOJ right now. Guess it shows that your politics is that strong.

K...stopped after the first sentence. You're a liar and I'm not giving you anymore of my time.

Afterall, it is your right to be wrong.
 
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Can you show me where I've said any such thing? Because I can show you where I've said otherwise.

I don't want a partisan DOJ. Even if they're partisan on my behalf.
I think the cops need to be watched like a hawk, lots of power and not enough brains and compassion.
 
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For taking bribes from foreign countries in return for selling American sovereignty. Just kidding, it’s Joe Biden.


Back on topic...I'm glad that someone could twist Wray's arm enough for him to turn over this document.

It seems odd that it needed to be twisted, no? How much pressure would need to be applied for him to act on the information?
 
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Back on topic...I'm glad that someone could twist Wray's arm enough for him to turn over this document.

It seems odd that it needed to be twisted, no? How much pressure would need to be applied for him to act on the information?
Grassley will keep pushing this. He's old and few effs left to give.

Wouldn't be surprised if it goes nowhere. But sooner or later, the first domino will fall, then the whole house of cards comes down.
 
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Oh they understand, they're pretending it's not happening.

Like when they say stuff like, "a few decisions." 😂

They ran with an investigation that they knew was fake from the moment they saw it. Yet some on here would have us believe that the DOJ, as an organization, isn't behaving in a partisan manner?

How do you debate people who are being ignorant on purpose?
 
Like when they say stuff like, "a few decisions." 😂

They ran with an investigation that they knew was fake from the moment they saw it. Yet some on here would have us believe that the DOJ, as an organization, isn't behaving in a partisan manner?

How do you debate people who are being ignorant on purpose?
Crossfire Hurricane? Peter Strozk was texting people the day after it was opened saying it was pretty thin and nothing there. Course he also texted his girlfriend in Oct 2016 saying they won't LET Trump win, they will stop him.

But yeah....no politicization there.
 
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Back on topic...I'm glad that someone could twist Wray's arm enough for him to turn over this document.

It seems odd that it needed to be twisted, no? How much pressure would need to be applied for him to act on the information?
You think it's ok to hand over documents on an open investigation?
 
Like when they say stuff like, "a few decisions." 😂

They ran with an investigation that they knew was fake from the moment they saw it. Yet some on here would have us believe that the DOJ, as an organization, isn't behaving in a partisan manner?

How do you debate people who are being ignorant on purpose?
Woodchipper?
 
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You think it's ok to hand over documents on an open investigation?

To the House Oversight Committee who has a subpoena? Yes, lol...I think that's OK.

In fact not doing so would not be ok as it would be against the law to ignore the subpoena.

Time to spin this debate somewhere else kalim because you look pretty stupid on this track.
 
I wanted to be clear because you tend to switch up when you get caught in a tough spot.

So yes, you are calling the DOJ politicized based of a few bad apples but that same logic doesn't apply to police officers, in fact you hate when people do that. Very interesting.
Bro, you are really obtuse. If every cop reported to one national police chief, and that chief and his entire upper staff were partisan hacks and crooks, maybe now you can understand the subject matter better. This applies to both the DOJ and the FBI. And things were exactly the same under Trump and they are under Biden in regard to that. Wray and Barr were both piss poor choices. I honestly don't know where you find replacements with integrity in today's DC Swamp.
 
Bro, you are really obtuse. If every cop reported to one national police chief, and that chief and his entire upper staff were partisan hacks and crooks, maybe now you can understand the subject matter better. This applies to both the DOJ and the FBI. And things were exactly the same under Trump and they are under Biden in regard to that. Wray and Barr were both piss poor choices. I honestly don't know where you find replacements with integrity in today's DC Swamp.
How do you know Wray is a partisan hack?
 
That's not what the article said. Try again.
That's exactly who that lady Parker is. She's a political Fox News contributer, who's been anti everything left and she got mad that FBI wouldn't go after her political beliefs. That's why she truly left the Law enforcement business, because of her politics but whatever.
 
Bro, you are really obtuse.

He's a manipulator and a person not in love with the truth imo. Put another way, he's a liar.

This was just his latest attempt to steer a conversation into a direction where he thought he might be able to conflate comments I made about individual local cops being free to have political opinions being the same as the entirety of the DOJ behaving as a partisan organization.

Of course I never said that DOJ employees should be apolitical...rather that the organization itself should be run apolitically.

So sure, calling him obtuse does seem fair....if not an understatement.
 
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He's a manipulator and a person not in love with the truth imo. Put another way, he's a liar.

This was just his latest attempt to steer a conversation into a direction where he thought he might be able to conflate comments I made about individual local cops being free to have political opinions being the same as the entirety of the DOJ behaving as a partisan organization.

Of course I never said that DOJ employees should be apolitical...rather that the organization itself should be run apolitically.

So sure, calling him obtuse does seem fair....if not an understatement.
Errrbody is a liar except Ray and Kalim.
 
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To the House Oversight Committee who has a subpoena? Yes, lol...I think that's OK.

In fact not doing so would not be ok as it would be against the law to ignore the subpoena.

Time to spin this debate somewhere else kalim because you look pretty stupid on this track.
Well that's interesting. It's actually not a crime, unless the DOJ determines that it is. The house can only refer a criminal investigation. 🙄

FYI, History shows that the DOJ always side with protecting open investigations.
 
Well that's interesting. It's actually not a crime, unless the DOJ determines that it is. The house can only refer a criminal investigation. 🙄

FYI, History shows that the DOJ always side with protecting open investigations.

Contempt of Congress is a crime you dolt. The DOJ may choose not to pursue criminal prosecution but it's still a crime. 😂
 
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He's a manipulator and a person not in love with the truth imo. Put another way, he's a liar.

This was just his latest attempt to steer a conversation into a direction where he thought he might be able to conflate comments I made about individual local cops being free to have political opinions being the same as the entirety of the DOJ behaving as a partisan organization.

Of course I never said that DOJ employees should be apolitical...rather that the organization itself should be run apolitically.

So sure, calling him obtuse does seem fair....if not an understatement.
Yawn...and this is why, I am so aggressive with getting a clear answer because you either change up, ignore your own words or ignore the facts I presented you.

Using someone own words against them and seeing them whine, is quite hilarious.
 
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Yawn...and this is why, I am so aggressive with getting a clear answer because you either change up, ignore your own words or ignore the facts I presented you.

Using someone own words against them and seeing them whine, is quite hilarious.

LOL...I've changed nothing. You attempted to change my words but you clearly failed.

A beat cop being a conservative is not the same as the DOJ acting as a partisan organization.

Chin up, you gave this manipulation your best shot. Maybe next time???
 
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Forget Trump for a second since the mere mention of his name induces irrationality in everyone involved.

The Obama administration investigated Hillary Clinton for improper storage of classified documents and even though they found over a hundred documents that should have been classified and identified 38 individuals as culpably negligent, some of whom were prosecuted and their clearances were revoked, the FBI determined that Clinton had been extremely negligent but had no criminal intent. This historical precedent has been applied to Biden's rather cavalier treatment of classified documents and I don't forsee any prosecution there either.

We go from that to the President of the United States authorizing a bullshit raid on behalf of a branch of government that has no executive authority or law enforcement capacity, using federal agents.
 
Forget Trump for a second since the mere mention of his name induces irrationality in everyone involved.

The Obama administration investigated Hillary Clinton for improper storage of classified documents and even though they found over a hundred documents that should have been classified and identified 38 individuals as culpably negligent, some of whom were prosecuted and their clearance was revoked. The FBI determined that Clinton had been extremely negligent but had no criminal intent. This historical precedent has been applied to Biden's rather cavalier treatment of classified documents and I don't forsee any prosecution there either.

We go from that to the President of the United States authorizing a bullshit raid on behalf of a branch of government that has no executive authority or law enforcement capacity, using federal agents.

And your claim is that they were behaving as a partisan organization?

Well, that just can't be. Can you give another 1,000 examples so that kalim can be certain?

PS...that 1137 guy is a conservative and a cop and that's virtually the same thing, isn't it?
 
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