Title Update: Media Lying About What Trump Said

[Illegal-shift]

Already lost. You telling me dems are not registering illegals and not voting fraudulently? Yay open borders, you support that garbage ...

You let the right wing media manipulate you too much. Do some research on how often illegals actually vote .......also consider if you where in their shoes if you would vote...... especially with Trump threatening mass deportations. Its like putting a flashing yellow sign on your head that says please deport me. But I have been for stronger boarders fo 30 years, so it's not new stuff.

Fwiw I think Trump will likely win, so if I am right we won't have to discuss this anymore. But it does appear Harris has gained some late momentum. If she wins a close vote all hell will break lose.

 

[GatorTheo]

You let the right wing media manipulate you too much. Do some research on how often illegals actually vote .......also consider if you where in their shoes if you would vote...... especially with Trump threatening mass deportations. Its like putting a flashing yellow sign on your head that says please deport me. But I have been for stronger boarders fo 30 years, so it's not new stuff.

Fwiw I think Trump will likely win, so if I am right we won't have to discuss this anymore. But it does appear Harris has gained some late momentum. If she wins a close vote all hell will break lose.

But I could also see illegals being very motivated to try to vote. I'm sure they want Harris to win very badly.

 

[Illegal-shift]

But I could also see illegals being very motivated to try to vote. I'm sure they want Harris to win very badly.

Put yourself in their situation.......you willing to commit a crime and risk being deported for your one measly vote that won't change anything?

Everybody acts in their own self interest. If I am in their shoes I keep the lowest profile possible and don't even consider voting. Illegals on the voting roles are going to be one of the first targets. I am sure they want Harris, but they have risked everything to get here. Not worth it.

 

[GatorTheo]

Put yourself in their situation.......you willing to commit a crime and risk being deported for your one measly vote that won't change anything?

Everybody acts in their own self interest. If I am in their shoes I keep the lowest profile possible and don't even consider voting. Illegals on the voting roles are going to be one of the first targets. I am sure they want Harris, but they have risked everything to get here. Not worth it.

They broke into America but voting is too risky? I'm sure it's a mixture but I'm sure a significant numbers of them would vote if it meant helping Kamala win.

Probably not enough to swing an election so dems will have to do other stuff too.

 

[Illegal-shift]

They broke into America but voting is too risky? I'm sure it's a mixture but I'm sure a significant numbers of them would vote if it meant helping Kamala win.

Probably not enough to swing an election so dems will have to do other stuff too.

So your telling me that if it was you .....and you risked everything to get here.....that you would now risk getting thrown back out of the country by voting when you know your single vote won't do a damn thing. There is just no upside to you voting in that situation and there is a massive downside. Which is why, imo, the data reflects that they don't vote very often.

No way in hell if it's me that I would vote. It would be flat out stupid for me to do so. I am just going to lay low and hope Trump lost.

 

[GatorTrooper]

 

[fatman76]

Put yourself in their situation.......you willing to commit a crime and risk being deported for your one measly vote that won't change anything?

Everybody acts in their own self interest. If I am in their shoes I keep the lowest profile possible and don't even consider voting. Illegals on the voting roles are going to be one of the first targets. I am sure they want Harris, but they have risked everything to get here. Not worth it.

If Kamala wins:
1) who would investigate illegal immigrant voter fraud?
2) who would prosecute it?

You must have eaten a ton of lead paint chips as a kid.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

If Kamala wins:
1) who would investigate illegal immigrant voter fraud?
2) who would prosecute it?

You must have eaten a ton of lead paint chips as a kid.

He just is not very bright, and it shows with every word in his posts

 

[Capt Ron 1]

If we had even the remote semblance of a fair press in America, this election would be no contest. Our country is dangerously close to ripping itself apart.

The reason i responded like I did was because the media outright lied, and your post TO ME helped perpetuate the lie. Conservatives are horrible in dealing with these kinds of things. Let’s be VERY CLEAR as to what this really is… ELECTION INTERFERENCE. A free Country cannot have the press putting their whole power on one side of the political scale as they do now. And for Gods sake, WE do not need to assist them. Trump has run an almost perfectly toned campaign (especially for him). The other side in the past week has called the other sides voters GARBAGE, called the women weak and not smart, and the one that bothers me the most, NAZI’S. No lies here, no misrepresentation like they do. This all in the past week. What Trump said, he has said MANY times and as always, he is SPOT ON. AND the media knows what me said, and are outright LYING to assist THEIR political choice. I am not a lawsuit kind of person, but they should be sued to non existence for this.

 

[gator1776]

The reason i responded like I did was because the media outright lied, and your post TO ME helped perpetuate the lie. Conservatives are horrible in dealing with these kinds of things. Let’s be VERY CLEAR as to what this really is… ELECTION INTERFERENCE. A free Country cannot have the press putting their whole power on one side of the political scale as they do now. And for Gods sake, WE do not need to assist them. Trump has run an almost perfectly toned campaign (especially for him). The other side in the past week has called the other sides voters GARBAGE, called the women weak and not smart, and the one that bothers me the most, NAZI’S. No lies here, no misrepresentation like they do. This all in the past week. What Trump said, he has said MANY times and as always, he is SPOT ON. AND the media knows what me said, and are outright LYING to assist THEIR political choice. I am not a lawsuit kind of person, but they should be sued to non existence for this.

I understand why you responded that way. It didn’t bother me. I agree with everything you say in this post. The lying “media” practically destroyed a majority of Americans faith and trust in my profession.

My post was because I was nervous that what I was hearing was going to yet again push voters away from Trump who I equate currently with America. I was afraid they would push it towards the Democrats who I equate with the people trying to destroy America. I’m many things, but I’m a passionate patriot and lover of America, which I view as the greatest country. This world has ever produced and they’ve been trying to destroy it My whole lifetime.

I get very passionate about it sometimes and my initial reaction hearing that for the first time yesterday afternoon was concern, fear and anxiety in that initial moment.

I always know what Trump is trying to say and I agree with him. He is the person we need in the moment. I just don’t always think he communicates it perfectly and the media takes advantage of it.

It is what it is. I am literally praying to God right now for the right result Tuesday night.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I understand why you responded that way. It didn’t bother me. I agree with everything you say in this post. The lying “media” practically destroyed a majority of Americans faith and trust in my profession.

My post was because I was nervous that what I was hearing was going to yet again push voters away from Trump who I equate currently with America. I was afraid they would push it towards the Democrats who I equate with the people trying to destroy America. I’m many things, but I’m a passionate patriot and lover of America, which I view as the greatest country. This world has ever produced and they’ve been trying to destroy it My whole lifetime.

I get very passionate about it sometimes and my initial reaction hearing that for the first time yesterday afternoon was concern, fear and anxiety in that initial moment.

I always know what Trump is trying to say and I agree with him. He is the person we need in the moment. I just don’t always think he communicates it perfectly and the media takes advantage of it.

It is what it is. I am literally praying to God right now for the right result Tuesday night.

I am praying to God America has not gone pure STUPID. If those prayers are heard and answered, Trump wins Tuesday night. I agree with everything above...but I also stand by when people allow the media to control the narrative...WE LOSE. They should be HAMMERED beyond recognition for doing what they are trying to do here..and it is not happening.

 

[nail1988]

 

[jb1215]

He just is not very bright, and it shows with every word in his posts

You're being kind.

 

[nail1988]

 

[gator1776]

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What do we think is causing all the polls to tighten and the change in Polymarket in Harris‘s favor?

 

[BillytheC]

The polls know that Trump is wining so they are trying their best to make Trump voters believe their vote is a waste of time

 

[Capt Ron 1]

What do we think is causing all the polls to tighten and the change in Polymarket in Harris‘s favor?

59% to 41% at this moment...I am pretty good with that! Polls ALWAYS tighten as the race ends...called CYA

 

[gator1776]

59% to 41% at this moment...I am pretty good with that! Polls ALWAYS tighten as the race ends...called CYA

Yeah, actually just popped back up Higher for Trump. I think I should probably just take a vacation for three days.
😝😝😝

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Yeah, actually just popped back up Higher for Trump. I think I should probably just take a vacation for three days.
😝😝😝

You care. I respect that. I wish more people did. This shiz IS important

 

[BillytheC]

On Monday the polls will be pretty accurate as they do not want to be that far off on election day

 

[FresnoGator]

On Monday the polls will be pretty accurate as they do not want to be that far off on election day

The mainstream media has to keep them close in order to do the public into thinking that Kamala has a legitimate chance to win when they try and tell us that she got more votes. It's very important that it's believable....

 

[FresnoGator]

You let the right wing media manipulate you too much. Do some research on how often illegals actually vote .......also consider if you where in their shoes if you would vote...... especially with Trump threatening mass deportations. Its like putting a flashing yellow sign on your head that says please deport me. But I have been for stronger boarders fo 30 years, so it's not new stuff.

Fwiw I think Trump will likely win, so if I am right we won't have to discuss this anymore. But it does appear Harris has gained some late momentum. If she wins a close vote all hell will break lose.

Sorry, but that is disingenuous tripe, if you were for stronger borders, you would not be supporting Kamala Harris. ...

 

[gatorspeed]

Ya, you can't lose with that pov can you?

Fres knows better

 

[gatorspeed]

You let the right wing media manipulate you too much. Do some research on how often illegals actually vote .......also consider if you where in their shoes if you would vote...... especially with Trump threatening mass deportations. Its like putting a flashing yellow sign on your head that says please deport me. But I have been for stronger boarders fo 30 years, so it's not new stuff.

Fwiw I think Trump will likely win, so if I am right we won't have to discuss this anymore. But it does appear Harris has gained some late momentum. If she wins a close vote all hell will break lose.

Agree with all
But, Trumps not winning

 

[FresnoGator]

Agree with all
But, Trumps not winning

True and we all know why ...

 

[LordofallSocks]

Im looking at Polymarket right now and its 59 to 40 Trump.

 

[gator1776]

Im looking at Polymarket right now and its 59 to 40 Trump.

59.6 to 40.2
lol

 

[LordofallSocks]

59.6 to 40.2
lol

Pedant.

 

[gatorspeed]

True and we all know why ...

Fres let me guess he got cheated
Same ole song and dance, anyways can you play QB? Cos after yesterday it’s gonna get brutal after losing DJ

 

[goldmom]

Throw away your career because Trump said something you didn't like? Not a chance in hell it went down like that IMO. Trump insults damn near everybody anyway at some point. Occams razor......the more obvious reason is the correct one.

She’s lived in DC so long she lost sight of the reality of living outside the Beltway. She mistakenly thought she was just saying what the DC bubble believes.

 

[NavigatorII]

The mainstream media has to keep them close in order to do the public into thinking that Kamala has a legitimate chance to win when they try and tell us that she got more votes. It's very important that it's believable....

Meanwhile, in your state (I am sure you are aware).

Obama Judge Rules that SoS Adrien Fontes Must Turn Over Records of 1.2 Million "Inactive" Voters on State Voter Rolls — But Not Until December 2 | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

A federal judge appointed by Barack Obama ruled that Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes must release records pertaining to over 1.2 million “inactive” voters on Arizona’s voter rolls.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[NavigatorII]

So your telling me that if it was you .....and you risked everything to get here.....that you would now risk getting thrown back out of the country by voting when you know your single vote won't do a damn thing. There is just no upside to you voting in that situation and there is a massive downside. Which is why, imo, the data reflects that they don't vote very often.

No way in hell if it's me that I would vote. It would be flat out stupid for me to do so. I am just going to lay low and hope Trump lost.

This is some ignorant bullshit right here. They don't need to even attempt to vote. Democrats know how to use their registrations to in fact vote for them by illegal proxy. You got shorted when they were passing out common sense.

 

[NavigatorII]

True and we all know why ...

Recent polling is swinging Trump's way. I don't even bother with national polls, irrelevant. All but about 7 states have been decided. AZ, NV, NC, GA, MI, WS, and PA are the only ones in play. The rest are locks one way or another. Check out the site below. PA, MI, AZ, and GA have the most propensity for voter fraud though. AZ and PA allowing votes to be counted arriving after election day piss me the eff off. Minus any voting day election fraud, Trump is winning this.

State by state analysis and also an interactive map with electoral vote counts to play with. In the bottom link, Trump just needs one of the following PA, WS, MI.........................assuming he holds serve in GA and NC.

Arizona Polls

The latest political polls and polling averages from FiveThirtyEight.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

538 Forecast for 2024 Presidential Election - 270toWin

An interactive electoral map derived from 538's probabilistic model for the 2024 presidential election.

www.270towin.com

 

[gatordad3]

Donald Trump in his 30's

 

[Illegal-shift]

She’s lived in DC so long she lost sight of the reality of living outside the Beltway. She mistakenly thought she was just saying what the DC bubble believes.

Well your certainly entitled to believe what you want but that just doesn't make sense IMO. Lifelong neo-conservative Republican is not going to turn their back on their party and their career because of an insult. The far more likely reason is what she said it was. That does make sense, IMO.

 

[Illegal-shift]

Sorry, but that is disingenuous tripe, if you were for stronger borders, you would not be supporting Kamala Harris. ...

How can you get so much wrong is such a short statement?

1) Generally silly for anybody to vote based on only one issue IMO.

2) I am not supporting Kamala. I really don't care who wins. Trump sucks for sure, but I also don't care for Kamala. I have stated several times a more moderate and less divisive republican was what I wanted, but MAGA kills that and might, in the end, deliver us Kamala. IMO Nikki Haley or even Ron D would have won pretty easily. If Kamala wins point the blame where it belongs.......on MAGA and irrational Trump love.

3) Being for stronger borders for some 35 years........the fact that so many MAGA people have jumped on it as "so important suddenly" is part of why they look like a manipulated group to me. We needed to do something about the borders back before we let it change the entire dynamics of our country. Now its too late to stop that. So while its still important for several reasons.......its too little too late in some respects. Its not the be all, end all issue for me. Especially given the fact that currently we need immigrants to give us a full work force as baby boomers retire. The way forward now is to figure out how we can all get along together and prosper. Not to try and take us back to something that no longer exists.

 

[FresnoGator]

How can you get so much wrong is such a short statement?

1) Generally silly for anybody to vote based on only one issue IMO.

2) I am not supporting Kamala. I really don't care who wins. Trump sucks for sure, but I also don't care for Kamala. I have stated several times a more moderate and less divisive republican was what I wanted, but MAGA kills that and might, in the end, deliver us Kamala. IMO Nikki Haley or even Ron D would have won pretty easily. If Kamala wins point the blame where it belongs.......on MAGA and irrational Trump love.

3) Being for stronger borders for some 35 years........the fact that so many MAGA people have jumped on it as "so important suddenly" is part of why they look like a manipulated group to me. We needed to do something about the borders back before we let it change the entire dynamics of our country. Now its too late to stop that. So while its still important for several reasons.......its too little too late in some respects. Its not the be all, end all issue for me. Especially given the fact that currently we need immigrants to give us a full work force as baby boomers retire. The way forward now is to figure out how we can all get along together and prosper. Not to try and take us back to something that no longer exists.

1 - like dems / women do with abortion, despite scads of misinformation?

2 - no one was more divisive than Obama, Biden carried on the tradition especially lately calling half the country "garbage". Trump was a very good president despite what his enemies in the press would like you to believe.

3 - never too late to correct an obvious wrong. I thought Reagan made a big mistake with amnesty, since when you cave to the left it's never enough and of course that continues to prove to be true. And honestly, anyone who is MAGA was already vehemently against open borders ...

 

[Capt Ron 1]

3) Being for stronger borders for some 35 years........the fact that so many MAGA people have jumped on it as "so important suddenly" is part of why they look like a manipulated group to me. We needed to do something about the borders back before we let it change the entire dynamics of our country. Now its too late to stop that. So while its still important for several reasons.......its too little too late in some respects. Its not the be all, end all issue for me. Especially given the fact that currently we need immigrants to give us a full work force as baby boomers retire. The way forward now is to figure out how we can all get along together and prosper. Not to try and take us back to something that no longer exists.

Then you are dumber than a red brick..which I have thought you were for some time. ONE very important detail you leave out...TWENTY ONE MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS FJB and Kum Allah let in our Country in THREE years......ANYONE with a working brain knows this, and understands WHY it is so important. You? No.

 

[Illegal-shift]

1 - like dems / women do with abortion, despite scads of misinformation?

2 - no one was more divisive than Obama, Biden carried on the tradition especially lately calling half the country "garbage". Trump was a very good president despite what his enemies in the press would like you to believe.

3 - never too late to correct an obvious wrong. I thought Reagan made a big mistake with amnesty, since when you cave to the left it's never enough and of course that continues to prove to be true. And honestly, anyone who is MAGA was already vehemently against open borders ...

You really think if Trump was pro choice democrats would vote for him? Besides, I said it was silly for anyone to vote based on one issue, I didn't say it doesn't happen.

Lets just drop #2. We are so far apart on that one it seems a waste of time to discuss. I could quote you 100 things Trump has said and done to back up my point. Biden is/was friggin milk toast in comparison.

Impossible to "correct" the change in demographics that has taken place over the last 30 or 40 years. But I do agree its still the right thing to do to control immigration.

 

[LordofallSocks]

You really think if Trump was pro choice democrats would vote for him? Besides, I said it was silly for anyone to vote based on one issue, I didn't say it doesn't happen.

Lets just drop #2. We are so far apart on that one it seems a waste of time to discuss. I could quote you 100 things Trump has said and done to back up my point. Biden is/was friggin milk toast in comparison.

Impossible to "correct" the change in demographics that has taken place over the last 30 or 40 years. But I do agree its still the right thing to do to control immigration.

*milquetoast