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ALTHOUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT QUITTING AND HOPEFULLY CAN STILL WIN ,,, BUT IF BIDEN WINS ,, HERE ARE SOME NEW WAYS TO THINK ,,1,, FORGET ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING ,,, DO WHAT FEELS GOOD ,2, IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR WAY BURN SOMETHING DOWN ,,, 3 ,,, DON'T COUNT ON COPS .. KILL ANYBODY IN YOUR WAY ..4. GET AND DEMAND ALL THE FREE SHIT THE GOVERNMENT WILL GIVE YOU ,,, 5 ,,, BE SURE NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE OR SAY ANYTHING OR THINK ANYTHING THE GLOBALISTS DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY ... THE BOTTOM LINE IS ,, THERE ARE NO RULES ...
 
Rush is talking about this right now. This is what the dems want, they want us to feel like we are 'chumps' for following the rules and being good people. They want us to be like them, no moral compass, note not a single dem here has a problem with 130k votes magically being 'found' for Hiden. @JIMBO1313 even said meh, that's just politics.

Then why didn't republicans cheat?

Because we are good people. We are not dems.
 
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Rush is talking about this right now. This is what the dems want, they want us to feel like we are 'chumps' for following the rules and being good people. They want us to be like them, no moral compass, note not a single dem here has a problem with 130k votes magically being 'found' for Hiden. @JIMBO1313 even said meh, that's just politics.

Then why didn't republicans cheat?

Because we are good people. We are not dems.
Your party probably has got cheating down to a fine art so they are better at hiding it. Now there as a crock of crap, I just threw it out there because do no for one minute believe that either party is any worse or better than the other. I knew that there were some on this subject will not let it go, just like their leader. And, by the way, this not over yet.
 
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Rush is talking about this right now. This is what the dems want, they want us to feel like we are 'chumps' for following the rules and being good people. They want us to be like them, no moral compass, note not a single dem here has a problem with 130k votes magically being 'found' for Hiden. @JIMBO1313 even said meh, that's just politics.

Then why didn't republicans cheat?

Because we are good people. We are not dems.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

"We are good people". Man, when you are funny, you are FUUUUUUNY!
 
Your party probably has got cheating down to a fine art so they are better at hiding it. Now there as a crock of crap, I just threw it out there because do no for one minute believe that either party is any worse or better than the other. I knew that there were some on this subject will not let it go, just like their leader. And, by the way, this not over yet.

Republicans gerrymander and suppress voting, but the Dems "cheat".

Well, here's some good news, the Dems won the House. So redistricting falls to them. They can fix all the gerrymandered house districts the Republicans set up in 2010. Anyone who thinks the Republicans are going to gain seats in the House in 2022 is kidding themselves. With proper districting the Dems will probably pick up 20 seats.
 
Your party probably has got cheating down to a fine art so they are better at hiding it. Now there as a crock of crap, I just threw it out there because do no for one minute believe that either party is any worse or better than the other. I knew that there were some on this subject will not let it go, just like their leader. And, by the way, this not over yet.

Agree it's not over. Disagree that the right cheats like the left.

We have different qualities...some better, some worse, some more harsh, some more kind.

The history of cheating from the left should tell you something. You cannot reinvent history for the sake of partisanship.
 
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Republicans gerrymander and suppress voting, but the Dems "cheat".

Well, here's some good news, the Dems won the House. So redistricting falls to them. They can fix all the gerrymandered house districts the Republicans set up in 2010. Anyone who thinks the Republicans are going to gain seats in the House in 2022 is kidding themselves. With proper districting the Dems will probably pick up 20 seats.

Which has happened before but you of course only recognize it as bad when the right gerrymanders. FFS, you acknowledge that the left is about to do it.
 
You and your party support killing 800k babies a year. Sit down.
taking it in another direction are you now Mr Malone? I am going to piss you off again. I believe that if a women is raped, get's pregnant due to an incestual relationship she, should have the right to an abortion. I know that this is a bone of contention among many, but not me. Sorry about that .
 
Your party probably has got cheating down to a fine art so they are better at hiding it. Now there as a crock of crap, I just threw it out there because do no for one minute believe that either party is any worse or better than the other. I knew that there were some on this subject will not let it go, just like their leader. And, by the way, this not over yet.
Probably. Probably?
You got nothin.
 
taking it in another direction are you now Mr Malone? I am going to piss you off again. I believe that if a women is raped, get's pregnant due to an incestual relationship she, should have the right to an abortion. I know that this is a bone of contention among many, but not me. Sorry about that .
I'm a Republucan woman and I feel the same, as do most Republican women.
 
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taking it in another direction are you now Mr Malone? I am going to piss you off again. I believe that if a women is raped, get's pregnant due to an incestual relationship she, should have the right to an abortion. I know that this is a bone of contention among many, but not me. Sorry about that .

I would add that an abortion should be allowed if the mother's life would be endangered by giving birth.

And if that was your party's stance, you would have a lot more republicans voting democrat.
 
Republicans gerrymander and suppress voting, but the Dems "cheat".

Well, here's some good news, the Dems won the House. So redistricting falls to them. They can fix all the gerrymandered house districts the Republicans set up in 2010. Anyone who thinks the Republicans are going to gain seats in the House in 2022 is kidding themselves. With proper districting the Dems will probably pick up 20 seats.
The only suppression happening is what Dems do to minorities who don't agree with Democrats.
 
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Your party probably has got cheating down to a fine art so they are better at hiding it. Now there as a crock of crap, I just threw it out there because do no for one minute believe that either party is any worse or better than the other. I knew that there were some on this subject will not let it go, just like their leader. And, by the way, this not over yet.
Only 1 party removed God from their platform, and it wasn't the conservatives. So yeah, one party is worse.
 
Republicans gerrymander and suppress voting, but the Dems "cheat".

Well, here's some good news, the Dems won the House. So redistricting falls to them. They can fix all the gerrymandered house districts the Republicans set up in 2010. Anyone who thinks the Republicans are going to gain seats in the House in 2022 is kidding themselves. With proper districting the Dems will probably pick up 20 seats.
The Census will shift some seats to states like Florida and Texas. Away from NY, NJ, and even Cali.
Let's wait and see how that goes.
 
I would add that an abortion should be allowed if the mother's life would be endangered by giving birth.

And if that was your party's stance, you would have a lot more republicans voting democrat.
This is and has been an explosive subject. I don't argue about it because it is a woman's right and it is between her and her God.
 
The callousness and flippant attitude toward killing a baby absolutely turns my stomach.

I do not envy the conversation you with have with God one day on this matter.
It's not flippant, I just believe that the mothers life is also important' And, just for your information my God will judge me when that day comes
 
“It’s my property (body). I can do whatever I want with what’s on (in) my property (body).” Said every slave owner ever.

That was exactly my thought when I was reading his tone. I can imagine his dem ancestors saying that 175 years ago about slaves.
 
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The baby has a right too. It's not simply the property of the mother to kill or let live as she sees fit.

See, this is where it all falls down for you.

Abortion hasn't always been illegal, it was only illegalized in the mid 19th century, then legalized in the mid 20th. And the move toward illegality was because doctors thought too many abortions were being performed by midwives and they weren't safe. So this big idea you have in your head about abortion, it isn't held up by the facts.
 
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Again, I'm not for overturning RvW but does the baby (or fetus to avoid the argument) not have any rights in your view?

At what point do they get rights IYO?

That's the anti-abortion-side argument, and it has no validity.

The reality is, women have always had, and will always have, abortions. Whether they are legal or illegal directly impacts their health and safety. But either way THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. Since the are going to happen, how does the legality of the procedure involve rights? It's a straw man argument.

Now, do you want to discuss social programs designed to minimize the need for abortions? I'm all about that. I'd love to see real sex education in schools, a basic set in middle school and a more robust version in high school, not this abstinence only garbage. And not just sex education, parenting classes in high school. How to teach your child, how to interact with your child, anger management, and yes, the importance of the father in child rearing. Boys need to understand what it will mean to be a man and handle your responsibilities. We continue to let the mistakes of the parents become the mistakes of the children when they become parents. Also, a realization of the work involved with being a parent would go a long way to having these young people be more careful to use contraception.

I'd like to see more robust social programs to help low income families, and we need to eliminate the prejudice in social programs towards single mothers. All that has done is increase the prevalence of single parent homes.

I'd like to see better early education, one where mothers and children are in the classroom together (post COVID, of course), and not only are children learning, but mothers are learning how to teach their children. We will never be successful in teaching the children if they are in an effective, enriching environment for 6 hours a day but in a cold, indifferent environment the other 18. So we need to teach the moms (and the dads) as well as the kids.

We could also do a better job feeding the children, but I will admit we try hard in that area. The problem is getting them proper nutrition at home. We can stuff them full for 6 hours, but if they get no nutrition the other 18, it's not really working.

So see, there really is no argument about "unborn rights". Reality is reality. What we CAN do, however, is change the narrative and reduce the need for abortion (and what I've outlined is, frankly, a multi-generational effort), and that will reduce abortion. But you will never eliminate it, and discussing the possibility is a fool's errand.
 
As do most Republican men that I know.
You know a whole bunch of different pub men than I do then. Life of the mother is the only exception I would make and most of my pub friends feel the same.

One can not be compelled to die for another.

Some mothers however risk that sacrifice. God Bless them because they unselfishly are doing the right thing.

Ectopics are lost causes and end in the death of the baby regardless.
 
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Republicans gerrymander and suppress voting, but the Dems "cheat".

Well, here's some good news, the Dems won the House. So redistricting falls to them. They can fix all the gerrymandered house districts the Republicans set up in 2010. Anyone who thinks the Republicans are going to gain seats in the House in 2022 is kidding themselves. With proper districting the Dems will probably pick up 20 seats.
You don’t think Dems gerrymander when they control districting? That automatically disqualifies your opinion. Dems haven’t voted in one “scientific commission” in states where they draw the lines.
Also the US house has nothing to do with districting. That’s state legislatures.
 
See, this is where it all falls down for you.

Abortion hasn't always been illegal, it was only illegalized in the mid 19th century, then legalized in the mid 20th. And the move toward illegality was because doctors thought too many abortions were being performed by midwives and they weren't safe. So this big idea you have in your head about abortion, it isn't held up by the facts.

Ah yes the ole 'abortion is really healthcare' spin.

There's nothing healthy about ending a life. Amazing that you have to be told this.
 
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The reality is, women have always had, and will always have, abortions. Whether they are legal or illegal directly impacts their health and safety. But either way THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. Since the are going to happen, how does the legality of the procedure involve rights? It's a straw man argument.

Murder will happen. Whether it is illegal or not impacts the happiness of those who go on living and don’t want to be incarcerated. Since it’s going to happen anyway, how does the legality of it involve rights?
 
That's the anti-abortion-side argument, and it has no validity.

The reality is, women have always had, and will always have, abortions. Whether they are legal or illegal directly impacts their health and safety. But either way THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. Since the are going to happen, how does the legality of the procedure involve rights? It's a straw man argument.

It's like he has no idea the baby exists. Dems are all about destroying the sanctity of life and the family. Erode both and you destroy society. The end game, and sheep can't even see it.
 
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Murder will happen. Whether it is illegal or not impacts the happiness of those who go on living and don’t want to be incarcerated. Since it’s going to happen anyway, how does the legality of it involve rights?

Straw man part II.
 
Armed robberies will happen whether they are legal or not the only question is the safety of the robber. Store owners having rights is a straw man argument.

. <--- That is my violin

LOL I stepped away before posting this and then look up and someone else took the same tact.
 
Armed robberies will happen whether they are legal or not the only question is the safety of the robber. Store owners having rights is a straw man argument.

. <--- That is my violin

Did murders become illegal in the mid 18th century because doctors didn't like the way non-doctors were doing it? Did robberies?

Get a clue.
 
ALTHOUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT QUITTING AND HOPEFULLY CAN STILL WIN ,,, BUT IF BIDEN WINS ,, HERE ARE SOME NEW WAYS TO THINK ,,1,, FORGET ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING ,,, DO WHAT FEELS GOOD ,2, IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR WAY BURN SOMETHING DOWN ,,, 3 ,,, DON'T COUNT ON COPS .. KILL ANYBODY IN YOUR WAY ..4. GET AND DEMAND ALL THE FREE SHIT THE GOVERNMENT WILL GIVE YOU ,,, 5 ,,, BE SURE NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE OR SAY ANYTHING OR THINK ANYTHING THE GLOBALISTS DON'T WANT YOU TO SAY ... THE BOTTOM LINE IS ,, THERE ARE NO RULES ...

Trump is killing me. He is laugh out loud funny with this stuff. Do you know he is talking about legal action because states are still counting?

But, if all the counting stopped right now, like Trump wants, Biden would win Nevada and Arizona, which would give him exactly 270, the magic number. TRUMP'S ONLY CHANCE TO WIN IS THROUGH MORE COUNTING. But he wants to stop the counting.

Beyond the humor, I actually don't like having a president this dumb.
 
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Trump is killing me. He is laugh out loud funny with this stuff. Do you know he is talking about legal action because states are still counting?

If the law says you can't count ballots acquired after election day, and some states are counting those anyway, no shit he's talking about legal action.

Don't break the law and there won't be any problems. This isn't that hard.

I knew this would happen. Dems cheat, we take them to court, then they claim WE are the ones trying to cheat LOL
 
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