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The Big Guy lawyers up!

You realize this is literally how our lib posters, at least the ones still here, are acting?

2014 - 2109 $17MM flowed to Hunter and his business, $8.9MM directly to Hunter (for "NIL") - this is a known known fact from bank records and the IRS investigation.

@kalimgoodman - I just thought of another question, if the $8.9MM was paid directly to Hunter from China for NIL why didn't he list it as such on his taxes? And why would some of that money flow to shell LLC's - one of the 20 the Bidens set up - and not directly to the person providing the NIL assets?

I mean, it's all on the up and up, right?

And the What's App message where he demanded an energy exec with direct ties to the CCP "honor his commitment" while sitting next to his father - why do we have bank records showing a $5MM payment from that executive to Hunter a few days later? Late payment on an autograph signing? He is an amazing artist as we all know.
And its SOOO blatant that the Bidens are corrupt, that Babylon Bee is making fun of it.
 
Inaccurate, here is the "hard evidence"
  • You are saying that you know who the big guy is, you do not.
  • You are saying that those tapes are bad, when nobody even know if the are real.
  • You are saying the prosecutor was fired because he was looking into Hunter company, that is inaccurate.
  • You are saying the wire transfers to his family means bribe, it does not
  • You are saying the whistleblower FBI report about the 5 million is accurate, when the FBI never confirmed that was accurate and actually after 3 years or so, they still can't.
  • The only thing that looks bad is the whatsapp message that would show that Joe know about his son business. At the same time Hunter was on drugs and could've been lying (something Ted Cruz even pointed out).
SO what "hard evidence" did I miss? All I see is speculation.
Kalim...did you have this much digression during the FAKE Russia collusion hoax against Trump?
 
Inaccurate, here is the "hard evidence"
  • You are saying that you know who the big guy is, you do not.
  • You are saying that those tapes are bad, when nobody even know if the are real.
  • You are saying the prosecutor was fired because he was looking into Hunter company, that is inaccurate.
  • You are saying the wire transfers to his family means bribe, it does not
  • You are saying the whistleblower FBI report about the 5 million is accurate, when the FBI never confirmed that was accurate and actually after 3 years or so, they still can't.
  • The only thing that looks bad is the whatsapp message that would show that Joe know about his son business. At the same time Hunter was on drugs and could've been lying (something Ted Cruz even pointed out).
SO what "hard evidence" did I miss? All I see is speculation.
Lastly...how do you think your defense would hold up in court...seeing Fatmans post below and all of this evidence? I think as an attorney, you would be fired for malpractice
 
Kalim...did you have this much digression during the FAKE Russia collusion hoax against Trump?
I always said that I didn't Russia was what the Democrats said it was. I said that Democrats were playing their people...just like the Republicans are doing now.
 
1) Tony Bobulinski is a first hand WB who identified Joe as the Big Guy - he's willing to testify under oath and the FBI/DOJ are not interested. - True that he said that but he then walked it back and said that he always believed that Joe was the big guy, that is why the R-led house have yet to call him to testify. SO, not confirmed
2) True, we don't have the tapes, but lying to the FBI as a WB is felony, why would the informant risk going to jail to lie? Don't forget the two IRS WB's - one of which isn't anonymous - The FBI said they get hundreds of WB forms about everyone in congress. That is why they have to vet them and like collaborate them. Those WB, do not say the same thing. SO what did you prove?
3) Why was the prosecutor fired? Would you like me to post the tape of Poroshenko telling Joe Biden Shokin "did nothing wrong but I asked him to resign anyway" again? Poroshenko is dirty as the day is long, and even HE felt bad firing Shokin. He was asked to resign because that is what Obama wanted and plenty of leaders in the EU because he was corrupted. Biden was following orders of the President. SO, wrong again
4) A wire transfer from the 3 countries Joe was in charge of foreign relations for while in and shortly after he left office, with no good (and no, NIL is a terrible hypothesis) reasonable explanation looks shady AF. Shady is not proof of a bribe or corruption and it's definitely isn't hard evidence of anything.
5) We have the bank records on $17MM in payments (including the $5MM) and the FBI is the WORST source on this. They had the laptop for a full year and either didn't investigate or hid the results. They are complicit in all of this, why do you trust them of all agencies? Why do you trust the congress? all of them were caught lying at some point! but when a person in the FBI lie, they are all liars? ALSO, why do you trust some of the FBI work and not the work that goes against your personal feelings about something.
6) Could have been, but why do we have evidence a transfer happened shortly thereafter from said Energy exec? And yes, Hunter was on drugs during that time, but a photograph puts him at his dad's home the day he sent that message - sitting in a Corvette. SO more speculation

SO zero hard evidence and ALL speculation. Like I said before.
 
Lastly...how do you think your defense would hold up in court...seeing Fatmans post below and all of this evidence? I think as an attorney, you would be fired for malpractice
I think the biggest proof of him not even coming close to looking at any evidence with an open mind is his labeling as speculation the bank records. Are they made up too? As I have said, he will accept no evidence because he doesn't want to. Ask him how 9 Biden family members had funds going into their bank accounts. Ask him how this family warranted 150 Suspicious Activity Reports that banks provided. His denial of actual bank records makes him look very silly and he is so dug in, he can't do anything but deny deny deny.
But I accept that from him because that's who he is.
 
1) Tony Bobulinski is a first hand WB who identified Joe as the Big Guy - he's willing to testify under oath and the FBI/DOJ are not interested. - True that he said that but he then walked it back and said that he always believed that Joe was the big guy, that is why the R-led house have yet to call him to testify. SO, not confirmed
Bobulinski walked nothing back, he just hasn't testified yet. This is a lie. He has it in writing and was present in meetings when it was discussed. Congress is just slow and the FBI isn't doing their job.
2) True, we don't have the tapes, but lying to the FBI as a WB is felony, why would the informant risk going to jail to lie? Don't forget the two IRS WB's - one of which isn't anonymous - The FBI said they get hundreds of WB forms about everyone in congress. That is why they have to vet them and like collaborate them. Those WB, do not say the same thing. SO what did you prove?
You aren't making sense. If you have a WB that contradicts what's on the 1023 that Grassley outlined, come with it. Otherwise you're just lying and obfuscating.
3) Why was the prosecutor fired? Would you like me to post the tape of Poroshenko telling Joe Biden Shokin "did nothing wrong but I asked him to resign anyway" again? Poroshenko is dirty as the day is long, and even HE felt bad firing Shokin. He was asked to resign because that is what Obama wanted and plenty of leaders in the EU because he was corrupted. Biden was following orders of the President. SO, wrong again
So you're really trying to tell me that Biden and Obama were the arbiters of truth, going after a corrupt prosecutor investigating a completely clean firm in Burisma that was paying Hunter $80k/month for a no-show board position in an industry and country he had no experience in? Listen to yourself.
What other countries have the caped crusader duo, Biden and Obama, gone into foreign countries to take out corrupt prosecutors? What national interest does that serve?

4) A wire transfer from the 3 countries Joe was in charge of foreign relations for while in and shortly after he left office, with no good (and no, NIL is a terrible hypothesis) reasonable explanation looks shady AF. Shady is not proof of a bribe or corruption and it's definitely isn't hard evidence of anything.
It's hard evidence of foreign gov'ts paying a top-level politician a ton of money for absolutely nothing tangible, unless you want to explain what you mean by "NIL". It doesn't make you question, not even a little?
If NIL is the "product", why isn't Obama receiving this money? He's so much more famous and powerful?
I can't believe I'm even entertaining this ignorant premise.

5) We have the bank records on $17MM in payments (including the $5MM) and the FBI is the WORST source on this. They had the laptop for a full year and either didn't investigate or hid the results. They are complicit in all of this, why do you trust them of all agencies? Why do you trust the congress? all of them were caught lying at some point! but when a person in the FBI lie, they are all liars? ALSO, why do you trust some of the FBI work and not the work that goes against your personal feelings about something.
You didn't make a point to respond to. And your premise that everyone in Congress lies and only one person in the FBI does makes zero sense.
6) Could have been, but why do we have evidence a transfer happened shortly thereafter from said Energy exec? And yes, Hunter was on drugs during that time, but a photograph puts him at his dad's home the day he sent that message - sitting in a Corvette. SO more speculation
Maybe, but it puts him in the place of the crime on the day of the crime...and then we have evidence that the bribe was paid a few days after the crime. You can't deny that's a ton of coincidences.

SO zero hard evidence and ALL speculation. Like I said before.
Nope, there's a ton of evidence and some speculation. You're waiting for a picture of someone handing Hunter a briefcase labelled "Bribe for the Big Guy (Joe Biden) for policy decisions". There's literally nothing else that will make you even question why all of these facts point in one direction. I'm so glad you don't work as an investigator.
 
Regardless of whether or not someone thinks it is evidence or speculation, THERE IS PROOF that 10's of millions of dollars were being paid to US Politicians and/or their families by multiple foreign Governments. $ that the people receiving it didn't tell the US Government about and tried to hide that they were receiving it, people who didn't register as a foreign agent. THAT ALONE is all the evidence anyone should need. Also, people do not setup a shell corporation for no reason, and they are certainly are not going to setup multiple shell corporations. Why would you spend $1000s and $1000s of dollars for no reason at all??????? And yes, I know all about setting up corporations and what it costs (filing fees, attorney fees for both representation and drafting of the incorporation and operating documents, not to mention services fees depending on where you are filing and whether or not you have to use a service company and /or need a Resident/Registered Agent, plus all the annual fees paid to the State wherein they are incorporated).
 
@kalimgoodman

The FBI knew 11 months before the "51 intelligence officials" that Hunter's laptop is real.

Hunter's laptop implicates him in many crimes, including FARA violations. Manafort is in prison for 1 FARA violation.

I have a 600+ page anaylsis of the laptop that I'm sure you'd love to see. It's organized by the type of crime and it lists the potential federal violation outlined in the evidence. When you see it you'll have to let me know why the FBI didn't immediately prosecute.

 
1) Tony Bobulinski is a first hand WB who identified Joe as the Big Guy - he's willing to testify under oath and the FBI/DOJ are not interested. - True that he said that but he then walked it back and said that he always believed that Joe was the big guy, that is why the R-led house have yet to call him to testify. SO, not confirmed
Bobulinski walked nothing back, he just hasn't testified yet. This is a lie. He has it in writing and was present in meetings when it was discussed. Congress is just slow and the FBI isn't doing their job.
2) True, we don't have the tapes, but lying to the FBI as a WB is felony, why would the informant risk going to jail to lie? Don't forget the two IRS WB's - one of which isn't anonymous - The FBI said they get hundreds of WB forms about everyone in congress. That is why they have to vet them and like collaborate them. Those WB, do not say the same thing. SO what did you prove?
You aren't making sense. If you have a WB that contradicts what's on the 1023 that Grassley outlined, come with it. Otherwise you're just lying and obfuscating.
3) Why was the prosecutor fired? Would you like me to post the tape of Poroshenko telling Joe Biden Shokin "did nothing wrong but I asked him to resign anyway" again? Poroshenko is dirty as the day is long, and even HE felt bad firing Shokin. He was asked to resign because that is what Obama wanted and plenty of leaders in the EU because he was corrupted. Biden was following orders of the President. SO, wrong again
So you're really trying to tell me that Biden and Obama were the arbiters of truth, going after a corrupt prosecutor investigating a completely clean firm in Burisma that was paying Hunter $80k/month for a no-show board position in an industry and country he had no experience in? Listen to yourself.
What other countries have the caped crusader duo, Biden and Obama, gone into foreign countries to take out corrupt prosecutors? What national interest does that serve?

4) A wire transfer from the 3 countries Joe was in charge of foreign relations for while in and shortly after he left office, with no good (and no, NIL is a terrible hypothesis) reasonable explanation looks shady AF. Shady is not proof of a bribe or corruption and it's definitely isn't hard evidence of anything.
It's hard evidence of foreign gov'ts paying a top-level politician a ton of money for absolutely nothing tangible, unless you want to explain what you mean by "NIL". It doesn't make you question, not even a little?
If NIL is the "product", why isn't Obama receiving this money? He's so much more famous and powerful?
I can't believe I'm even entertaining this ignorant premise.

5) We have the bank records on $17MM in payments (including the $5MM) and the FBI is the WORST source on this. They had the laptop for a full year and either didn't investigate or hid the results. They are complicit in all of this, why do you trust them of all agencies? Why do you trust the congress? all of them were caught lying at some point! but when a person in the FBI lie, they are all liars? ALSO, why do you trust some of the FBI work and not the work that goes against your personal feelings about something.
You didn't make a point to respond to. And your premise that everyone in Congress lies and only one person in the FBI does makes zero sense.
6) Could have been, but why do we have evidence a transfer happened shortly thereafter from said Energy exec? And yes, Hunter was on drugs during that time, but a photograph puts him at his dad's home the day he sent that message - sitting in a Corvette. SO more speculation
Maybe, but it puts him in the place of the crime on the day of the crime...and then we have evidence that the bribe was paid a few days after the crime. You can't deny that's a ton of coincidences.

SO zero hard evidence and ALL speculation. Like I said before.
Nope, there's a ton of evidence and some speculation. You're waiting for a picture of someone handing Hunter a briefcase labelled "Bribe for the Big Guy (Joe Biden) for policy decisions". There's literally nothing else that will make you even question why all of these facts point in one direction. I'm so glad you don't work as an investigator.
That's where we disagree. This is what I wa telling @grandhavendiddy. You guys are all in. I showed that everything is questionable.

The fact that you won't accept that firing the prosecutor came from Obama and other countries, just tells me that I'm wasting my time.

This is one the reasons I refused to talk Hunter. It's not about Hunter or the facts, it's trying to hurt Joe in the polls, just like Comer already said.

But for your own knowledge...

 
That's where we disagree. This is what I wa telling @grandhavendiddy. You guys are all in. I showed that everything is questionable.

The fact that you won't accept that firing the prosecutor came from Obama and other countries, just tells me that I'm wasting my time.

This is one the reasons I refused to talk Hunter. It's not about Hunter or the facts, it's trying to hurt Joe in the polls, just like Comer already said.

But for your own knowledge...

You have all these things people say, like Comer and Bobulinski, and you never have one damn thing to back them up.

I offered you 600+ pages of evidence and analysis and the best you can do is a MSM spin piece.

How many other prosecutors did the tag team duo of ethics in the Obama WH withhold money to fire?
 
Here is what is clear:

1. The laptop was known - for a year prior to be of substance and not Russian disinformation, yet 51 (or thereabouts) security "experts" dismissed it as Russian disinformation.

2. The lab leak was similarly dismissed and now, exactly as Occam's razor would suggest, the first three patients were the gain of function researches in the Wuhan Lab.

3. Now that the power seems to be shifting from mono-party to partial split (let's see what happens in 2024 if the R can keep the house, or if they lose the house, move to the Senate), whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork because they feel safer.

4. Biden denied all knowledge; now he is using parsed words.

Here is the real question - will the above lead to independents and moderates voting for Republicans where since 2018, they have trended to Democrats. Further "inspiring the base" does little here.
 
You have all these things people say, like Comer and Bobulinski, and you never have one damn thing to back them up.

I offered you 600+ pages of evidence and analysis and the best you can do is a MSM spin piece.

How many other prosecutors did the tag team duo of ethics in the Obama WH withhold money to fire?
Cool. You want this to be true. I don't know why. It's odd but I won't comment anymore about Hunter stuff. I'll get back to letting it play out. No need for the peanut gallery.
 
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The one question that I continue to present to liberals is how does one family accumulate 150 SAR's. The S stands for suspicious. They come from banks and is why Janet Yellen stonewalled on getting them. Can any liberal provide a legitimate reason why 150 SAR's might be generated.
 
Inaccurate, here is the "hard evidence"
  • You are saying that you know who the big guy is, you do not.
  • You are saying that those tapes are bad, when nobody even know if the are real.
  • You are saying the prosecutor was fired because he was looking into Hunter company, that is inaccurate.
  • You are saying the wire transfers to his family means bribe, it does not
  • You are saying the whistleblower FBI report about the 5 million is accurate, when the FBI never confirmed that was accurate and actually after 3 years or so, they still can't.
  • The only thing that looks bad is the whatsapp message that would show that Joe know about his son business. At the same time Hunter was on drugs and could've been lying (something Ted Cruz even pointed out).
SO what "hard evidence" did I miss? All I see is speculation.
I do believe I've seen this movie before. Right here on this very forum. :rolleyes:
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1) Tony Bobulinski is a first hand WB who identified Joe as the Big Guy - he's willing to testify under oath and the FBI/DOJ are not interested. - True that he said that but he then walked it back and said that he always believed that Joe was the big guy, that is why the R-led house have yet to call him to testify. SO, not confirmed
Bobulinski walked nothing back, he just hasn't testified yet. This is a lie. He has it in writing and was present in meetings when it was discussed. Congress is just slow and the FBI isn't doing their job.
2) True, we don't have the tapes, but lying to the FBI as a WB is felony, why would the informant risk going to jail to lie? Don't forget the two IRS WB's - one of which isn't anonymous - The FBI said they get hundreds of WB forms about everyone in congress. That is why they have to vet them and like collaborate them. Those WB, do not say the same thing. SO what did you prove?
You aren't making sense. If you have a WB that contradicts what's on the 1023 that Grassley outlined, come with it. Otherwise you're just lying and obfuscating.
3) Why was the prosecutor fired? Would you like me to post the tape of Poroshenko telling Joe Biden Shokin "did nothing wrong but I asked him to resign anyway" again? Poroshenko is dirty as the day is long, and even HE felt bad firing Shokin. He was asked to resign because that is what Obama wanted and plenty of leaders in the EU because he was corrupted. Biden was following orders of the President. SO, wrong again
So you're really trying to tell me that Biden and Obama were the arbiters of truth, going after a corrupt prosecutor investigating a completely clean firm in Burisma that was paying Hunter $80k/month for a no-show board position in an industry and country he had no experience in? Listen to yourself.
What other countries have the caped crusader duo, Biden and Obama, gone into foreign countries to take out corrupt prosecutors? What national interest does that serve?

4) A wire transfer from the 3 countries Joe was in charge of foreign relations for while in and shortly after he left office, with no good (and no, NIL is a terrible hypothesis) reasonable explanation looks shady AF. Shady is not proof of a bribe or corruption and it's definitely isn't hard evidence of anything.
It's hard evidence of foreign gov'ts paying a top-level politician a ton of money for absolutely nothing tangible, unless you want to explain what you mean by "NIL". It doesn't make you question, not even a little?
If NIL is the "product", why isn't Obama receiving this money? He's so much more famous and powerful?
I can't believe I'm even entertaining this ignorant premise.

5) We have the bank records on $17MM in payments (including the $5MM) and the FBI is the WORST source on this. They had the laptop for a full year and either didn't investigate or hid the results. They are complicit in all of this, why do you trust them of all agencies? Why do you trust the congress? all of them were caught lying at some point! but when a person in the FBI lie, they are all liars? ALSO, why do you trust some of the FBI work and not the work that goes against your personal feelings about something.
You didn't make a point to respond to. And your premise that everyone in Congress lies and only one person in the FBI does makes zero sense.
6) Could have been, but why do we have evidence a transfer happened shortly thereafter from said Energy exec? And yes, Hunter was on drugs during that time, but a photograph puts him at his dad's home the day he sent that message - sitting in a Corvette. SO more speculation
Maybe, but it puts him in the place of the crime on the day of the crime...and then we have evidence that the bribe was paid a few days after the crime. You can't deny that's a ton of coincidences.

SO zero hard evidence and ALL speculation. Like I said before.
Nope, there's a ton of evidence and some speculation. You're waiting for a picture of someone handing Hunter a briefcase labelled "Bribe for the Big Guy (Joe Biden) for policy decisions". There's literally nothing else that will make you even question why all of these facts point in one direction. I'm so glad you don't work as an investigator.
Kalim...you are getting ABUSED by my friend here, son. Go outside and practice falling down before you reply again..it may break the fall....
 
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Cool. You want this to be true. I don't know why. It's odd but I won't comment anymore about Hunter stuff. I'll get back to letting it play out. No need for the peanut gallery.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Of COURSE you won't! LOLOL You would HAVE to admit you support a treasonous traitor who sells out America
 
The one question that I continue to present to liberals is how does one family accumulate 150 SAR's. The S stands for suspicious. They come from banks and is why Janet Yellen stonewalled on getting them. Can any liberal provide a legitimate reason why 150 SAR's might be generated.
Suspicious Activity Reports to be exact. Nothing to see here? Let's see the shell corporation transactions. Biden asks, "where's the money"? Let's find out!
 
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This is how corrupt people attempt to hide the flow of money. 150 SAR's is extraordinary. I'm waiting for a liberal explanation since these are actual bank records.
You can bank on this: Garland will hide, obfuscate, deflect, and cover the Big Guy's ass. Book it!
 
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Cool. You want this to be true. I don't know why. It's odd but I won't comment anymore about Hunter stuff. I'll get back to letting it play out. No need for the peanut gallery.
You desperately want it not to be true.

And Shokin is the tip of the iceberg with this story, and you know it.
 
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So consistent! Same attitude with Trump Russia!! Oh. Wrong. You jumped to idiotic conclusions immediately
When did I jump to conclusions about Russia? I always said let that play out. That is my position on every investigation.

With all due respect, you can not like my thoughts but you don't have to make up stuff about me.
 
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So you never seen it but it's true? Odd
Do you even know what a SARS report is? It is a flagged report of suspicious activity in banking. Why does a person have layers and layers of shell corporations? Seem above board to you? A couple of suspicious transactions I could understand. Well over one hundred of them? What was Hunter Biden selling anyway? His superior talents? 😂

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