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The 4th best team in the State...

I think the loss of Cookie will hurt more than the way too early voters realize. Also, if Francois goes down we are in a world of hurt. That said I like being numero uno (for the Cane fans here) in the state.
 
12. Michigan
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2016 record: 10-3, 7-2 Big Ten
Returning starters: 4 offense, 1 defense, 0 special teams

Key losses: WR Amara Darboh, WR Jehu Chesson, OT Ben Braden, G Kyle Kalis, OT Erik Magnuson, TE Jake Butt, RB De'Veon Smith, LB/RB Jabrill Peppers, DE Chris Wormley, NT Matthew Godin, DT Ryan Glasgow, DE Taco Charlton, LB Ben Gedeon, CB Jourdan Lewis, SS Dymonte Thomas, FS Delano Hill, CB Channing Stribling

Outlook: The Wolverines are losing 10 starters on defense, their top two receivers, an All-American tight end and a starting tailback. Therefore, it would be an understatement to say Jim Harbaugh is facing a massive rebuilding job in his third season as coach of his alma mater. But Ohio State's Urban Meyer faced a similar reboot this past season and still guided the Buckeyes to a spot in the CFP. The good news for the Wolverines: Quarterback Wilton Speight was better than expected in his first season as a starter. On defense, linebacker Mike McCray and end Rashan Gary will lead what figures to be a very young unit. The Wolverines open the season against Florida in Arlington, Texas, and will play Big Ten road games at Penn State and Wisconsin (Ohio State travels to Michigan).

Wow, maybe we have a shot in this game.
 
I think the loss of Cookie will hurt more than the way too early voters realize. Also, if Francois goes down we are in a world of hurt. That said I like being numero uno (for the Cane fans here) in the state.
Unless Jimbo struck gold twice with Akers, METS' post is spot on...also, our only good O-lineman just declared for the draft. DF will be running for his life once again, I fear. Really stinks too, because our TE/WR group looks to be a dominate part of the team, but Trick-daddy's lines can't pass block for $hit. I swear that O-line is like putting a bunch of bumper stickers on a Lamborghini!
 
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Unless Jimbo struck gold twice with Akers, METS' post is spot on...also, our only good O-lineman just declared for the draft. DF will be running for his life once again, I fear. Really stinks too, because our TE/WR group looks to be a dominate part of the team, but Trick-daddy's lines can't pass block for $hit. I swear that O-line is like putting a bunch of bumper stickers on a Lamborghini!
OL was very good against Michigan. They should be solid next year. Francois is the key. If he improves his accuracy and consistency then FSU is a legit contender. Nobody replaces the best back in the country but a combo of Akers, Patrick and White should be effective.
 
Unless Jimbo struck gold twicth Akers, METS' post is spot on...also, our only good O-lineman just declared for the draft. DF will be running for his life once again, I fear. Really stinks too, because our TE/WR group looks to be a dominate part of the team, but Trick-daddy's lines can't pass block for $hit. I swear that O-line is like putting a bunch of bumper stickers on a Lamborghini!
Outside of the ville and bama I dont see anybody on your schedule being a challenge. Sure cook was important, but not as much as some other guys lost on other teams.
 
Why does Sagarin have Michigan at #3?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

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                              RATING    W   L  SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 |  PREDICTOR   | GOLDEN_MEAN  |  RECENT  
                HOME ADVANTAGE=[  2.13]                                               [  1.97]       [  2.17]       [  2.17]
   1  Clemson              A  = 105.35   14   1   78.24(   3)    3   0  |    8   0  |  100.78    2 |  102.94    2 |  110.32    1
   2  Alabama              A  = 105.33   14   1   79.97(   1)    3   1  |    8   1  |  104.80    1 |  105.07    1 |  105.37    2
   3  Michigan             A  =  94.05   10   3   72.11(  49)    1   2  |    3   2  |   97.44    3 |   96.13    3 |   91.76   10
   4  Washington           A  =  93.28   12   2   71.84(  53)    0   2  |    2   2  |   93.31    5 |   92.96    5 |   93.15    5
   5  Ohio State           A  =  93.27   11   2   77.08(   6)    3   1  |    4   2  |   96.13    4 |   95.59    4 |   91.00   11
   6  Oklahoma             A  =  93.21   11   2   75.04(  14)    0   1  |    4   1  |   90.43    7 |   91.53    6 |   95.42    3
   7  LSU                  A  =  91.99    8   4   77.49(   5)    0   2  |    2   4  |   91.83    6 |   91.50    7 |   92.05    9
   8  Florida State        A  =  91.56   10   3   79.47(   2)    1   1  |    4   2  |   90.37    8 |   90.52    8 |   92.42    7
   9  Wisconsin            A  =  90.59   11   3   75.33(  13)    1   2  |    3   3  |   88.33    9 |   89.25    9 |   92.21    8
  10  Southern California  A  =  89.92   10   3   74.84(  17)    1   1  |    3   2  |   86.55   13 |   87.55   10 |   93.09    6

It seems that the AP poll ignored this and swapped Michigan with USC.
 
Why on earth is FSU ranked second? We lose Cook, our Left tackle , corner, and walker..... I dont get it. Our o line is awful and Louisville is on the schedule
 
To show you just how insignificant Miami has become, when I read the OP's thread title, I thought, "FSU, ok...USF probably next...but who else could possibly be ranked in front of Florida?"

I swear, I had forgotten about Miami entirely.
 
Why on earth is FSU ranked second? We lose Cook, our Left tackle , corner, and walker..... I dont get it. Our o line is awful and Louisville is on the schedule

They needed a ranking to publish and probably whipped this one out in a few minutes. They'll redo it at least a dozen times before the season.
 
They needed a ranking to publish and probably whipped this one out in a few minutes. They'll redo it at least a dozen times before the season.

I mean don't get me wrong.... I think we should be in the top 10 but not at 2
 
Pretty sure Louisville loses a few pieces too. Most teams do. If we have learned anything about media over the last few years it is they typically do their job half ass at best.
 
FSU will make the playoffs if they can get decent play out of the Oline. The team was very young this past year and has grown up. RB, CB, and DE FSU has solid backups. Plus, Derwin James returns. The biggest weakness is LT. They'll probably move the RT over to LT, move some things around, be OK. Frenchy will throw for 4,000.

That said, FAU could have a better year than UF.
 
Pretty sure Louisville loses a few pieces too. Most teams do. If we have learned anything about media over the last few years it is they typically do their job half ass at best.

True, but as long as they have LJ... We r going to struggle
 
Why on earth is FSU ranked second? We lose Cook, our Left tackle , corner, and walker..... I dont get it. Our o line is awful and Louisville is on the schedule
It's called depth and recruiting. The corner we lose was probably the weakest link on the defense. Cook can't be replaced but the receivers should be insane. Nnadi returning is huge at DT. Derwin James back at full strength.

Louisville went off the rails after midseason so who knows if they get things back on track. Still think Clemson is the toughest test after Bama.
 
It's called depth and recruiting. The corner we lose was probably the weakest link on the defense. Cook can't be replaced but the receivers should be insane. Nnadi returning is huge at DT. Derwin James back at full strength.

Louisville went off the rails after midseason so who knows if they get things back on track. Still think Clemson is the toughest test after Bama.

Clemson lost everybody and LOL at you thinking White was the weakest link. Did you watch our linebackers play?
 
FSU will be ranked top 5 to start, maybe 1 or 2. We face a Bama team that loses big pieces of its defense. If our OL can hold, we win that game and then have a relatively easy schedule the rest of the way - Louisville at home, Miami without Kaya, Clemson without Watson, Florida without a QB.
 
FSU will be ranked top 5 to start, maybe 1 or 2. We face a Bama team that loses big pieces of its defense. If our OL can hold, we win that game and then have a relatively easy schedule the rest of the way - Louisville at home, Miami without Kaya, Clemson without Watson, Florida without a QB.

Every player that bama loses has a 5 star player or top 65 overall player as their backup. I think they put us high to hype the matchup. Also, this is the ACC, no one in it has a "relatively easy schedule". Come on man!
 
12. Michigan
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2016 record: 10-3, 7-2 Big Ten
Returning starters: 4 offense, 1 defense, 0 special teams

Key losses: WR Amara Darboh, WR Jehu Chesson, OT Ben Braden, G Kyle Kalis, OT Erik Magnuson, TE Jake Butt, RB De'Veon Smith, LB/RB Jabrill Peppers, DE Chris Wormley, NT Matthew Godin, DT Ryan Glasgow, DE Taco Charlton, LB Ben Gedeon, CB Jourdan Lewis, SS Dymonte Thomas, FS Delano Hill, CB Channing Stribling

Outlook: The Wolverines are losing 10 starters on defense, their top two receivers, an All-American tight end and a starting tailback. Therefore, it would be an understatement to say Jim Harbaugh is facing a massive rebuilding job in his third season as coach of his alma mater. But Ohio State's Urban Meyer faced a similar reboot this past season and still guided the Buckeyes to a spot in the CFP. The good news for the Wolverines: Quarterback Wilton Speight was better than expected in his first season as a starter. On defense, linebacker Mike McCray and end Rashan Gary will lead what figures to be a very young unit. The Wolverines open the season against Florida in Arlington, Texas, and will play Big Ten road games at Penn State and Wisconsin (Ohio State travels to Michigan).

Wow, maybe we have a shot in this game.

I think we do but they have some good DTs that got a lot of playing time so that may be a strength for them.
 
2017:

Meatchicken: L
Northern Colorado: W
Tennessee: W
Kentucky: W
Vandy: W
LSU: W
TAMU: W
BYE WEEK: We lose 2 players for "BREAKING TEAM RULES"
Georgia: W
uSC: W
U GAY, B? W
FSU: L (BUT VERY CLOSE)
BAMA: L (but closer)

Bowl Game: Sugar Bowl win
 
Outside of the ville and bama I dont see anybody on your schedule being a challenge. Sure cook was important, but not as much as some other guys lost on other teams.

Toughest conference in the country. Play @ top 10 Clemson, play @ top 20 UF and Top 15 Miami plus the two you mentioned. Another tough schedule for FSU.
 
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2017:

Meatchicken: L
Northern Colorado: W
Tennessee: W
Kentucky: W
Vandy: W
LSU: W
TAMU: W
BYE WEEK: We lose 2 players for "BREAKING TEAM RULES"
Georgia: W
uSC: W
U GAY, B? W
FSU: L (BUT VERY CLOSE)
BAMA: L (but closer)

Bowl Game: Sugar Bowl win

Who is the QB in all these wins?
 
2017:

Meatchicken: L
Northern Colorado: W
Tennessee: W
Kentucky: W
Vandy: W
LSU: W
TAMU: W
BYE WEEK: We lose 2 players for "BREAKING TEAM RULES"
Georgia: W
uSC: W
U GAY, B? W
FSU: L (BUT VERY CLOSE)
BAMA: L (but closer)

Bowl Game: Sugar Bowl win

I'll be disappointed if we lose to a night are of a Michifab team who loses twice as much as us.
 
2017:

Meatchicken: L
Northern Colorado: W
Tennessee: W
Kentucky: W
Vandy: W
LSU: W
TAMU: W
BYE WEEK: We lose 2 players for "BREAKING TEAM RULES"
Georgia: W
uSC: W
U GAY, B? W
FSU: L (BUT VERY CLOSE)
BAMA: L (but closer)

Bowl Game: Sugar Bowl win

more likley you beat michigan and lose to lsu. michigan will lose a lot of players to the draft. some of them even faked injuries to prepare for the draft.
 
With the defense taking a step back with all the losses this may be the year we lose to one of lower teams in the East. I bet we lose one out of @ KY, @ SC and @Mizzou.
 
I'll be disappointed if we lose to a night are of a Michifab team who loses twice as much as us.

The preceding message was brought to you by alcohol. Alcohol, making frat boys cut their nuts off with a circular saws since 1988.

 
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Michigan: L
Northern Colorado: W
Tennessee: W
Kentucky: W
Vandy: W
LSU: W
TAMU: W
Georgia: L
USCe: W
GB: W
FSU: L (Blowout)
9-3 Regular season record

SECCG:
Alabama: L (Blowout)

Bowl Game: Sugar Bowl loss
9-5 Overall record

Mac signs an extension to 2025
 
Why on earth is FSU ranked second? We lose Cook, our Left tackle , corner, and walker..... I dont get it. Our o line is awful and Louisville is on the schedule

We can replace our left tackle, we have myers Taylor or lewis at cb end will be ok with sweat and Burns and then tail back we have a loaded crop
 
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