Tariffs

[G8trDad3]

I get it. Trump trumps all. He walks on water.
Maybe some of you should stop watching Fox or Newsmax or whatever. (And, lol, I do not watch CNN.)
As someone here said, just wait till his third term. Well, let’s see how he pulls that off. I have no doubt he will rearrange the laws to make it happen.
Again, there was an order in place for the guy to remain in the US. It was ignored. Trump even admitted it was a mistake. (Does not matter if he was guilty or innocent.) They are setting precedent. Next it could be “your father was Palestinian, you’re out”… your mother was a drug dealer, you’re out”.. “you are Catholic, you’re out.” Be careful what you wish for.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I get it. Trump trumps all. He walks on water.
Maybe some of you should stop watching Fox or Newsmax or whatever. (And, lol, I do not watch CNN.)
As someone here said, just wait till his third term. Well, let’s see how he pulls that off. I have no doubt he will rearrange the laws to make it happen.
Again, there was an order in place for the guy to remain in the US. It was ignored. Trump even admitted it was a mistake. (Does not matter if he was guilty or innocent.) They are setting precedent. Next it could be “your father was Palestinian, you’re out”… your mother was a drug dealer, you’re out”.. “you are Catholic, you’re out.” Be careful what you wish for.

 

[bradleygator]

Hopefully this trade war doesn’t get rough. What’s our leverage again? We like to buy a lot of stuff?

 

[NavigatorII]

. Next it could be “your father was Palestinian, you’re out”… your mother was a drug dealer, you’re out”.. “you are Catholic, you’re out.” Be careful what you wish for.

Nope, that was Biden's DOJ. You are white and Catholic, you are a potential domestic terrorist and white nationalist. BUSTED! 😂

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Hopefully this trade war doesn’t get rough. What’s our leverage again? We like to buy a lot of stuff?

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@G8trDad3 hates Trump cause he's mean to MS-13 members

@bradleygator hates Trump cause he's mean to the Chinese

Hero-worshipping criminals and our enemies just to own the magats? I think this is a great strategy, keep going guys.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Oh noes... @G8trDad3 was right, now Trump is going after AMERICANS!!!!!

@gatorspeed @kalimgoodman @Illegal-shift @bradleygator it looks like Trump is openly declaring war on law-breakers in this country.

Won't anyone stand up and defend the criminals????

 

[fatman76]

Hopefully this trade war doesn’t get rough. What’s our leverage again? We like to buy a lot of stuff?

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Again, this is the only real risk here with catastrophic consequences.

So do we let any military superpower just take advantage of us?

China may sink our ships but a conventional war would be ugly for them.

And likely Hegseth is lobbying for investment.

 

[fatman76]

I get it. Trump trumps all. He walks on water.
Maybe some of you should stop watching Fox or Newsmax or whatever. (And, lol, I do not watch CNN.)
As someone here said, just wait till his third term. Well, let’s see how he pulls that off. I have no doubt he will rearrange the laws to make it happen.
Again, there was an order in place for the guy to remain in the US. It was ignored. Trump even admitted it was a mistake. (Does not matter if he was guilty or innocent.) They are setting precedent. Next it could be “your father was Palestinian, you’re out”… your mother was a drug dealer, you’re out”.. “you are Catholic, you’re out.” Be careful what you wish for.

Bondi said she’d bring them back.

The President of El Salvador said no.

Why are you fighting so hard for a terrorist gang member illegal immigrant?

 

[bradleygator]

Again, this is the only real risk here with catastrophic consequences.

So do we let any military superpower just take advantage of us?

China may sink our ships but a conventional war would be ugly for them.

And likely Hegseth is lobbying for investment.

Of course he’s lobbying for investment. We’ve outspent the world collectively in the last 25 years on defense and our own war games say we wouldn’t last a week in a war in the pacific. Maybe Doge should take a look at the ROI on defense spending.

Nobody here thinks the fact that the Chinese would wipe us in the Pacific has any impact on negotiations?

 

[bradleygator]

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Oh noes... @G8trDad3 was right, now Trump is going after AMERICANS!!!!!

@gatorspeed @kalimgoodman @Illegal-shift @bradleygator it looks like Trump is openly declaring war on law-breakers in this country.

Won't anyone stand up and defend the criminals????

This is a truly idiotic sentiment. Send Americans to el Salvadoran super prisons, but just stick to the criminals. There’s a precedent that’s sure not to cause anything unforeseen. Truly moronic.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Why are you fighting so hard for a terrorist gang member illegal immigrant?

Same reason bradley is fighting so hard for the Chinese.

 

[bradleygator]

Same reason bradley is fighting so hard for the Chinese.

Right. Common sense. Intelligence. The lack thereof being the reason you guys are cheerleading for Americans to be shipped to South American prisons. lol. I thought a few of you were smarter than that. Not ghost, obviously.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Of course he’s lobbying for investment. We’ve outspent the world collectively in the last 25 years on defense and our own war games say we wouldn’t last a week in a war in the pacific. Maybe Doge should take a look at the ROI on defense spending.

Nobody here thinks the fact that the Chinese would wipe us in the Pacific has any impact on negotiations?

China requires that ANY boat of ANY size made in the country be reinforced so it is capable of transporting tanks. That means technically any boat in China is a warship.

Of course Trump has no idea and it appears Hegseth won't tell him. Dangit. I think we should just surrender to the Chinese before Trump gets someone hurt. (Mainly...the Chinese).

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This is a truly idiotic sentiment. Send Americans to el Salvadoran super prisons, but just stick to the criminals. There’s a precedent that’s sure not to cause anything unforeseen. Truly moronic.

Exactly. Trump is on a tear against criminals lately. If someone doesnt stand up to him RIGHT NOW....we are in danger of having most if not ALL of our dangerous criminals OUT of the country!

This madness can't continue...

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Right. Common sense. Intelligence. The lack thereof being the reason you guys are cheerleading for Americans to be shipped to South American prisons. lol. I thought a few of you were smarter than that. Not ghost, obviously.

More than that....these are human beings. Who the hell does Trump think he is???? Just because a man kills another man, does that mean the killer should be punished?

Someone has to stop Trump. As @G8trDad3 said, precedent has now been set, if this madness doesn't end soon, we may have no more criminals for the left to worship.

 

[bradleygator]

China requires that ANY boat of ANY size made in the country be reinforced so it is capable of transporting tanks. That means technically any boat in China is a warship.

Of course Trump has no idea and it appears Hegseth won't tell him. Dangit. I think we should just surrender to the Chinese before Trump gets someone hurt. (Mainly...the Chinese).

Right every boat made in China has to be able to transport tanks. That makes a lot of sense.

 

[fatman76]

Right. Common sense. Intelligence. The lack thereof being the reason you guys are cheerleading for Americans to be shipped to South American prisons. lol. I thought a few of you were smarter than that. Not ghost, obviously.

No American was shipped anywhere.

An El Salvadorian was sent back to his home country.

Opinions are fine to argue but these are the facts.

 

[fatman76]

Of course he’s lobbying for investment. We’ve outspent the world collectively in the last 25 years on defense and our own war games say we wouldn’t last a week in a war in the pacific. Maybe Doge should take a look at the ROI on defense spending.

Nobody here thinks the fact that the Chinese would wipe us in the Pacific has any impact on negotiations?

No, because it would be mutual destruction. We’re still plenty powerful. Only way I see it happening is if we overplay our hand and China is facing regime change. So far that doesn’t seem to be the plan.

And DOGE is absolutely going after DOD waste.

 

[fatman76]

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Oh noes... @G8trDad3 was right, now Trump is going after AMERICANS!!!!!

@gatorspeed @kalimgoodman @Illegal-shift @bradleygator it looks like Trump is openly declaring war on law-breakers in this country.

Won't anyone stand up and defend the criminals????

It’s a win-win.

It helps fund the El Salvadorian supermax prisons and makes even our prisons safer for less violent criminals. I don’t see the issue, as long as it’s life in prison violent offenders.

What difference does it make where they serve their time?

 

[fatman76]

Thank you for pointing out what’s wrong with the Trump administration.
I think the point you guys are ignoring is that Trump broke or severely flouted the law in deporting that person. He may be a terrorist or he may be innocent. We will never know. Either way he was in the US legally and supposed to have been protected.
To give a regime absolute power to deport ANYONE based on their suspicions and not proven valid reasons borders on a dictatorship. That is not what our country is about.

He was a confirmed member of MS-13. They’ve been officially classified as a terrorist organization. Ergo, he’s a terrorist. And an illegal alien.

 

[bradleygator]

No American was shipped anywhere.

An El Salvadorian was sent back to his home country.

Opinions are fine to argue but these are the facts.

I’m referring to Trump’s comments that “homegrown criminals” are next.

 

[bradleygator]

He was a confirmed member of MS-13. They’ve been officially classified as a terrorist organization. Ergo, he’s a terrorist. And an illegal alien.

Do you know how many people have been shipped to El Salvador and for what? If you see a list post it. I dont see one.

Let me tell you, if you relax on due process game over. You think stripping rights is ok just because you like the guy in charge? It always starts that way.

You guys were probably all charged up about the patriot act. How’d that work out?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Do you know how many people have been shipped to El Salvador and for what? If you see a list post it. I dont see one.

Let me tell you, if you relax on due process game over. You think stripping rights is ok just because you like the guy in charge? It always starts that way.

You guys were probably all charged up about the patriot act. How’d that work out?

Non-citizens don't get due process.

 

[fatman76]

I’m referring to Trump’s comments that “homegrown criminals” are next.

And your problem with that is?

They’ve had their due process and been found guilty. What difference does it make where they serve their time?

 

[bradleygator]

Non-citizens don't get due process.

He said today he wanted to send citizens to El Salvador. If you support this, you dumb, plain and simple.

 

[fatman76]

Do you know how many people have been shipped to El Salvador and for what? If you see a list post it. I dont see one.

Let me tell you, if you relax on due process game over. You think stripping rights is ok just because you like the guy in charge? It always starts that way.

You guys were probably all charged up about the patriot act. How’d that work out?

Due process is for AMERICAN CITIZENS as it pertains to deportation.

And he got that, two district courts found he was a member of MS-13 and not a citizen.

He had no right to be here, and he was deported.

Why is that a problem with you? You realize supporting MS-13 illegal aliens is going to lose your party another election, right?

And the Patriot Act was a complete invasion of privacy from the start and I hated it.

 

[fatman76]

He said today he wanted to send citizens to El Salvador. If you support this, you dumb, plain and simple.

You’re conflating all kinds of issues.

The “citizens” he wants to send to El Salvador to serve their time are the worst and most violent criminals we have WHO HAD THEIR DUE PROCESS.

 

[bradleygator]

And your problem with that is?

They’ve had their due process and been found guilty. What difference does it make where they serve their time?

Does the phrase cruel and unusual punishment mean anything to you?

But right, constitutional protections so long as I agree with it. Just like on the left.

Dumbness.

When did Americans get so dumb that they can’t support a principle in circumstances they don’t like?

 

[bradleygator]

You’re conflating all kinds of issues.

The “citizens” he wants to send to El Salvador to serve their time are the worst and most violent criminals we have WHO HAD THEIR DUE PROCESS.

You keep the right to due process even when incarcerated. Right against cruel and unusual punishment too. It’s in the constitution. Oh but forget about that because I don’t like these people and the people I support will be in charge forever. Brilliant.

You sound like you’re getting mad. It’s not my fault you started blindly supporting a bunch of ignorance.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You keep the right to due process even when incarcerated.

Being incarcerated isn't a violation of due process.

Right against cruel and unusual punishment too. It’s in the constitution.

Being incarcerated for breaking the law isn't cruel and unusual punishment. It's the law.

You sound like you’re getting mad. It’s not my fault you started blindly supporting a bunch of ignorance.

This from the guy trying to say that Trump wanting to jail violent criminals is 'cruel and unusual punishment' AND a violation of due process LOL

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Why is that a problem with you? You realize supporting MS-13 illegal aliens is going to lose your party another election, right?

He doesn't. This is awesome.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You’re conflating all kinds of issues.

The “citizens” he wants to send to El Salvador to serve their time are the worst and most violent criminals we have WHO HAD THEIR DUE PROCESS.

Best part of this hissy fit he's throwing? He didn't say a word when the J6 hostages actually DID have their due process violated and actually DID get cruel and unusual punishment.

But that was ok cause they supported Trump. go figure.

 

[bradleygator]

Best part of this hissy fit he's throwing? He didn't say a word when the J6 hostages actually DID have their due process violated and actually DID get cruel and unusual punishment.

But that was ok cause they supported Trump. go figure.

Next time it happens if there’s a Dem in office, they’ll get shipped off to El Salvador thanks to morons like yourself.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Next time it happens if there’s a Dem in office, they’ll get shipped off to El Salvador thanks to morons like yourself.

So you're saying if Trump goes ahead and sends violent criinals to jail in El Salvador, the next time a dem is in charge, they will send innocent US citizens who support Trump to jail in El Savador?

We've come full circle. You're now admitting the dems will do what @G8trDad3 claimed Trump COULD do.

The hell of it is, you're exactly right.

So Trump can't punish criminals, cause if he does, the dems will use the tactics against innocent Trump supporters.

What a time to be alive.

 

[bradleygator]

Anyway, getting back to other areas of uncritically endorsed dumbness, it looks like the tariffs are in fact demolishing manufacturing capacity in… errr…. NY.

 

[fatman76]

Anyway, getting back to other areas of uncritically endorsed dumbness, it looks like the tariffs are in fact demolishing manufacturing capacity in… errr…. NY.

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You’re citing an economist for WaPo.

And can we please stop with the short term predictions? That’s not the plan.

 

[bradleygator]

You’re citing an economist for WaPo.

And can we please stop with the short term predictions? That’s not the plan.

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It’s the NY manufacturing survey.

And it’s hard to disregard the short term when you’re $37 trillion in debt.

Also, I presume you guys all think that Obama was a criminal fraud correct? I do. What weight is his endorsement of current policy supposed to carry?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You’re citing an economist for WaPo.

Which really tells you all you need to know. Brad and @G8trDad3 are getting their info about Trump from media sources who tell their reporters to attack Trump and his policies on all fronts.

Even when their liberal heroes like obama supported those same policies.

We've now reached a point where liberals are attacking Trump for being too mean to violent criminals.

This is awesome. What did Sun Tzu say? When your opponent is making mistakes, don't interupt them?

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Once the Gang that he was a member of was named a TERRORIST organization, the protection order was terminated. All you really need to do is actually listen to the Trump Admin instead of MSM and you would have no problems understanding the situation.

I bet you believe that SCOTUS order Trump to bring him back, don't you. Go ahead, you can admit it here.

Yes he does...like all libs...he cannot understand reality very well. His reality is CNN

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I get it. Trump trumps all. He walks on water.
Maybe some of you should stop watching Fox or Newsmax or whatever. (And, lol, I do not watch CNN.)
As someone here said, just wait till his third term. Well, let’s see how he pulls that off. I have no doubt he will rearrange the laws to make it happen.
Again, there was an order in place for the guy to remain in the US. It was ignored. Trump even admitted it was a mistake. (Does not matter if he was guilty or innocent.) They are setting precedent. Next it could be “your father was Palestinian, you’re out”… your mother was a drug dealer, you’re out”.. “you are Catholic, you’re out.” Be careful what you wish for.

Your side is not in power...no need to worry about things like this. Your side is the ONLY side ever to use lawfare to accomplish its unamerican goals. See Leticia James all of you were fawning over. That HAS to be so embarrassing.....but I am not sure any of you are smart enough to know any of the facts. Like Reagan once said..you snowflakes know SO MUCH that is just not true.....