Sheep why didn't any of you mention that hoax flu hospializations have fallen off a cliff?

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Less people being sick is GOOD, right?

Ohhhhhhh.....that's right, you're scared that Trump might not look bad if people are surviving hoax flu? Yeah but.....I mean.....people not dying is a good thing, right? It's more important than Trump, right.....right?

Sheep? Sheep???????

 

[Nolec]

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Less people being sick is GOOD, right?

Ohhhhhhh.....that's right, you're scared that Trump might not look bad if people are surviving hoax flu? Yeah but.....I mean.....people not dying is a good thing, right? It's more important than Trump, right.....right?

Sheep? Sheep???????

Both Pub and Dem Govs of how many states now have mask mandates? probably just coincidence.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Both Pub and Dem Govs of how many states now have mask mandates? probably just coincidence.

I wear a mask.

There is a lag time between the latest mask mandates and their impact. The decline occurred before the the mandates could affect the trend.

 

[Nolec]

I wear a mask.

There is a lag time between the latest mask mandates and their impact. The decline occurred before the the mandates could affect the trend.

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Time lag of a couple of weeks. Social distancing, sanitation critical as well.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Time lag of a couple of weeks. Social distancing, sanitation critical as well.

And Alabama's cases are still 2,000 a day, 2 weeks into mandate.

All too easy.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Both Pub and Dem Govs of how many states now have mask mandates? probably just coincidence.

I believe 29 states have mask mandates. Its the majority. And the majority have had them in place for long before the current dip.

Herd immunity is working. You only like masks cause you think Trump doesn't. SMDH

 

[Nolec]

And Alabama's cases are still 2,000 a day, 2 weeks into mandate.

All too easy.

Yet despite Ghost's hopes, the moving 7 day average continues to fall in Ala., in fact Ghost started this thread with the cases in the US falling, but can't accept that masks help. It's 35 states that now have mask mandates and the 16 that don't .... wonder if they would have R governors?
Ghost can't get enough losing on the mask issue.

Experts hope that herd immunity threshold for Covid is much lower than some other viruses like measles -- 94% needed. If the herd immunity threshold for covid is near 70% as they hope, we'd have to have 225 million American have a case of the virus. We currently have about 5 million. Realistically, we need a vaccine, masks, social dist., sanitizing, and contact tracing.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Herd immunity could be as low as 20%. Funny how you always take the most pessimistic assumptions.

Sweden has shown decline with ~8% infection rate. The cruise ship achieved immunity at 20% rate

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8518493/Covid-19-herd-immunity-develop-20-study-claims.html

 

[Nolec]

Herd immunity could be as low as 20%. Funny how you always take the most pessimistic assumptions.

Sweden has shown decline with ~8% infection rate. The cruise ship achieved immunity at 20% rate

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8518493/Covid-19-herd-immunity-develop-20-study-claims.html

Daily Mail as a reliable source.... not according to media fact check, but regargless the paper is observational and not peer reviewed nor in a journal. In the link, the lowest % was 20.... still need 65 million Americans to have a cases (we have 5M) so you see the problem.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Yet despite Ghost's hopes, the moving 7 day average continues to fall in Ala., in fact Ghost started this thread with the cases in the US falling, but can't accept that masks help. It's 35 states that now have mask mandates and the 16 that don't .... wonder if they would have R governors?
Ghost can't get enough losing on the mask issue.

Experts hope that herd immunity threshold for Covid is much lower than some other viruses like measles -- 94% needed. If the herd immunity threshold for covid is near 70% as they hope, we'd have to have 225 million American have a case of the virus. We currently have about 5 million. Realistically, we need a vaccine, masks, social dist., sanitizing, and contact tracing.

But you just said we already had a vaccine for hoax flu. Said thousands of Americans were already taking it across the country.

Do you even listen to what you post here? Again.....please NO ONE follow this guy's advice on medicine. Good grief.

 

[Nolec]

But you just said we already had a vaccine for hoax flu. Said thousands of Americans were already taking it across the country.
If Ghost's reading comprehension skills were better, he might understand that his quote of mine is not mutually exclusive at all. perhaps he can Google Phase Three trials to help himself from being HOODWINKED.
Ghost is a dancin' again.

Do you even listen to what you post here? Again.....please NO ONE follow this guy's advice on medicine. Good grief.

Ghost: "there is no flu vaccine...." Can't make this stuff up. LOL

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Ghost: "there is no flu vaccine...." Can't make this stuff up. LOL

You could claim there is a hoax flu vaccine. Even Ghost wouldn't say something that stupid.

Guess who would?

 

[jfegaly]

Both Pub and Dem Govs of how many states now have mask mandates? probably just coincidence.

Yeah, can't be herd immunity....just can't, I mean...the same thing has happened in literally every single country where this thing has done this, yet it's Masks......Sweden says hello BTW.

 

[Nolec]

You could claim there is a hoax flu vaccine. Even Ghost wouldn't say something that stupid.

Guess who would?

How many links are needed for Ghost to understand that thousands of people are getting vaccines for Covid? https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins

 

[goldmom]

Daily Mail as a reliable source.... not according to media fact check, but regargless the paper is observational and not peer reviewed nor in a journal. In the link, the lowest % was 20.... still need 65 million Americans to have a cases (we have 5M) so you see the problem.

Would you at least acknowledge that it's possible millions of Americans may have had C19 already, thought it was allergies or a severe cold, recovered, and are contributing to said herd immunity? Or the kids who are STILL going to daycare had it and brought it home to their 30 something Mom and Dad? I think that is more possible than we can ever confirm. Politicians or health experts.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

How many links are needed for Ghost to understand that thousands of people are getting vaccines for Covid? https://www.nih.gov/news-events/new...trial-investigational-vaccine-covid-19-begins

No hoax flu vaccine has been approved for public use in the US. How in the world do you not know this?

 

[Nolec]

Would you at least acknowledge that it's possible millions of Americans may have had C19 already, thought it was allergies or a severe cold, recovered, and are contributing to said herd immunity? Or the kids who are STILL going to daycare had it and brought it home to their 30 something Mom and Dad? I think that is more possible than we can ever confirm. Politicians or health experts.

It is certainly in the realm of possibility. It has not yet been proven, though it would be of great benefit if it were true.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Would you at least acknowledge that it's possible millions of Americans may have had C19 already, thought it was allergies or a severe cold, recovered, and are contributing to said herd immunity? Or the kids who are STILL going to daycare had it and brought it home to their 30 something Mom and Dad? I think that is more possible than we can ever confirm. Politicians or health experts.

We now know that hoax flu has likely been in this country for a year.

Well @Nolec doesn't know. Course he also thinks we have a vaccine for hoax flu and that Fauci is a qualified medical expert and that the WHO and FDA are credible organizations.

 

[Nolec]

No hoax flu vaccine has been approved for public use in the US. How in the world do you not know this?

Goalposts ! You stated no Covid vaccine.... proved that was false, now changing to vaccine FOR PUBLIC USE.

"You could claim there is a hoax flu vaccine. Even Ghost wouldn't say something that stupid."
Note the difference.
Ghost is dancin' again.

 

[BamaFan1137]

Goalposts ! You stated no Covid vaccine.... proved that was false, now changing to vaccine FOR PUBLIC USE.

"You could claim there is a hoax flu vaccine. Even Ghost wouldn't say something that stupid."
Note the difference.
Ghost is dancin' again.

Even you must admit that Fauci's recent remarks on the prospects of a vaccine anytime soon temper expectations from these trials.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Goalposts ! You stated no Covid vaccine.... proved that was false, now changing to vaccine FOR PUBLIC USE.

"You could claim there is a hoax flu vaccine. Even Ghost wouldn't say something that stupid."
Note the difference.
Ghost is dancin' again.

You are absolutely a Joe Biden supporter. And there's no covid vaccine. If there were, you would have already taken it. While wearing a mask. And hazmat suit.

 

[Nolec]

Even you must admit that Fauci's recent remarks on the prospects of a vaccine anytime soon temper expectations from these trials.

I'm just hoping the vaccines we're using now, come in near 70% effectiveness or better. Our yearly flu vaccines are at 50-60% and we end up with about 35K deaths from flu/yr. With Covid having a higher R (contagious) factor any vaccine less than 70% , while worthwhile and welcome, would likely leave us with higher than 35K/yr covid deaths/yr. over the flu. pray for a vaccine like our measles at 94%

 

[BamaFan1137]

I'm just hoping the vaccines we're using now, come in near 70% effectiveness or better. Our yearly flu vaccines are at 50-60% and we end up with about 35K deaths from flu/yr. With Covid having a higher R (contagious) factor any vaccine less than 70% , while worthwhile and welcome, would likely leave us with higher than 35K/yr covid deaths/yr. over the flu. pray for a vaccine like our measles at 94%

From what I understand 50% is the best you can hope for...if and when they become available.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I'm just hoping the vaccines we're using now

We aren't using any vaccines. There are some in trials, but none have been approved for public use.

Damn.

 

[Nolec]

From what I understand 50% is the best you can hope for...if and when they become available.

If that's the case we better hope Goldy was right that there are millions of undocumented covid cases to help reach threshold herd immunity.

 

[Nolec]

We aren't using any vaccines. are some in trials, but none have been approved for public use.

Damn.

"There are some ______ in trials" The word is VACCINES . There are some vaccines in trials.
You're making a logical fallacy called making a distinction without a difference.

Beside that fact: Goalposts ! You stated no Covid vaccine.... I proved that was false, now changing to vaccine FOR PUBLIC USE.
Spinnin', dancin' Ghost getting dizzy.

 

[BamaFan1137]

If that's the case we better hope Goldy was right that there are millions of undocumented covid cases to help reach threshold herd immunity.

Protect the vulnerable and the rest of us need to be responsible and go back to work to pay for all of this. It's time to soldier on. We cannot and will not survive or flourish by continuing to pay healthy people not to work.

If we need to pay truly unhealthy people not to work, those that usually do work, then fine.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

"There are some ______ in trials" The word is VACCINES . There are some vaccines in trials.
You're making a logical fallacy called making a distinction without a difference.

Beside that fact: Goalposts ! You stated no Covid vaccine.... I proved that was false, now changing to vaccine FOR PUBLIC USE.
Spinnin', dancin' Ghost getting dizzy.

Again, notice no one here has your back on this.

 

[Nolec]

Again, notice no one here has your back on this.

Oh no, I'm not winning a popularity contest. No one giving me attaboys. Guess I just have to be happy with being CORRECT then. Sniff. LOL

 

[BamaFan1137]

Guess I just have to be happy with being CORRECT then.

...about that...

 

[Nolec]

...about that...

Come on man, you said you were going to keep up on it and call me out when I transgressed. Are you slacking or have I been mostly right?

 

[BamaFan1137]

Come on man, you said you were going to keep up on it and call me out when I transgressed. Are you slacking or have I been mostly right?

I've been slacking tbh. I don't read everything in these threads. I've made a few posts ITT tho.