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Scientists working on a drug that lets you live for 200 years...?

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"The drug, taken in pill form, works by eliminating cells that contribute to the ageing process in the human body, thus potentially doubling our lifespan....

Human ageing is hurried along by cells called ‘zombie cells’, scientifically known as senescent cells. These cells stop dividing over our lifespan, accumulate inside our bodies, and eventually release compounds that speed up ageing....

‘I can’t see a physical or biological reason why people couldn’t live to 200 — the challenge is whether we can develop the biomedical science to make it possible.’

Studies come out every few years that propose some kind of fundamental limit on human lifespan, but they’re always missing one crucial piece: we’ve never tried treating the ageing process before,"
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Curious what they are talking about here. My guess would be something to do with Fisetin since it was clearly the strongest at flushing senescent zombie cells in animal studies (and in real small human test) and the Mayo clinic went quiet about their strict human studies on it from 2020 without releasing the results. The problem for the medical industry is Fisetin can't be patented so they would have to package it somehow or come up with a way to eliminate as many senescent zombie cells with something that can be patented.

Also I highly doubt elimination of most senescent zombie cells periodically would extend lifespan that much. You might get the very maximum lifespan up to around 135 or something like that but certainly not 200. I am into the slowing down aging stuff and have actually took Fisetin on 2 occasions to flush some of these bad cells. Daily supplementation doesn't do squat and you have to blast very high amounts of it for like 3 days and only do it every year or so (some do it a little more often like every 6 months ). I forgot how but it stresses something with the body is why you can only do it every so often at those very high doses. After both times I did it a few days after the last dose it felt like a slight fog had been lifted off my mind and I felt like I had a little more energy.

I think senescent cell reduction would mostly be beneficial for improving the quality of life as you age even more than extending the age you die at. It would probably delay or prevent alzheimers, cancer and heart disease for many years past when the person might have otherwise got those conditions.

As far as a true really turn the clock back fountain of youth I doubt that happens until they figure out some way to engineer the cells to revert to a younger state.
 
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That must be the mechanism of action for Viagra. The flushing action is awesome after achieving a high dose.
 
Are you one of those Harkonens from Dune?

Are you illiterate too? -- BTW. It's Harkonnen dude....

"The spice must flow" is a quote from the Guild Navigators.

I'm an Atreides to the core,
duty-loyalty-honor.

The Harkonnen's are the Rats from Giedi Prime.

And yes, I've read that series several times through the years...
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Why? Man, when my time is up, I'm off to heaven where there is no more pain or suffering. Who'd want to stay here longer than even 100 years?!
 
Why? Man, when my time is up, I'm off to heaven where there is no more pain or suffering. Who'd want to stay here longer than even 100 years?!
Simplistic Answer -- For the same reason that as I left the exit after riding Space Mountain for the first time, I immediately got back in line to ride it again... 😉

"The Universe is God's.
It is one thing, a wholeness against which all separations may be identified. Transient life, even that self-aware and reasoning life which we call sentient, holds only fragile trusteeship on any portion of the wholeness. - CET"
 
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Social security is effed now!! :oops: :oops: :oops:
Seriously though, no one wants to live that old with no quality of life. It would have to retard the bodily degradation in a stupendous way, and then for vegetables like Brandon, it would be a curse because no one understands the brain.
 
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"You can move people by using the seductive attraction of definite sentences uttered with a driving sincerity. Irony often masks the inability to think beyond one's assumptions. If you would possess your humanity, let go of the finite universe."

"But I realize that humans cannot bear very much reality. Most lives are a flight from selfhood. Most prefer the truths of the stable. You stick your heads into the stanchions and munch contentedly until you die. Others use you for their purposes. Not once do you live outside the stable to lift your head and be your own creature."

Such as that, is why I've read Frank Herbert's Dune series more than once....
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Ok, so let’s take a ridiculously unhealthy population and give them a pill, to take with all of their other pills, that makes them live longer. Sounds like a great idea. Way to go Big Pharma. More medicine to “help” people.
 
Social security is effed now!! :oops: :oops: :oops:
Seriously though, no one wants to live that old with no quality of life. It would have to retard the bodily degradation in a stupendous way, and then for vegetables like Brandon, it would be a curse because no one understands the brain.
Agreed. Take the last third of your life where quality of life starts to degrade. Create a pill that reverses that degradation, then you have a winner.

Ok, so let’s take a ridiculously unhealthy population and give them a pill, to take with all of their other pills, that makes them live longer. Sounds like a great idea. Way to go Big Pharma. More medicine to “help” people.
Yep, keep people alive and in pain longer, so they need more medicine to ease their pain and suffering.
 

this combo is whats been proven to be effective, call me shocked i see people discussing senescence on this board!!! some good stuff in the pipeline so eat your veggies and berries until this becomes settled science, as we all know science and settled science are not the same thing...
 

"The drug, taken in pill form, works by eliminating cells that contribute to the ageing process in the human body, thus potentially doubling our lifespan....

Human ageing is hurried along by cells called ‘zombie cells’, scientifically known as senescent cells. These cells stop dividing over our lifespan, accumulate inside our bodies, and eventually release compounds that speed up ageing....

‘I can’t see a physical or biological reason why people couldn’t live to 200 — the challenge is whether we can develop the biomedical science to make it possible.’

Studies come out every few years that propose some kind of fundamental limit on human lifespan, but they’re always missing one crucial piece: we’ve never tried treating the ageing process before,"
---------------------------------

Curious what they are talking about here. My guess would be something to do with Fisetin since it was clearly the strongest at flushing senescent zombie cells in animal studies (and in real small human test) and the Mayo clinic went quiet about their strict human studies on it from 2020 without releasing the results. The problem for the medical industry is Fisetin can't be patented so they would have to package it somehow or come up with a way to eliminate as many senescent zombie cells with something that can be patented.

Also I highly doubt elimination of most senescent zombie cells periodically would extend lifespan that much. You might get the very maximum lifespan up to around 135 or something like that but certainly not 200. I am into the slowing down aging stuff and have actually took Fisetin on 2 occasions to flush some of these bad cells. Daily supplementation doesn't do squat and you have to blast very high amounts of it for like 3 days and only do it every year or so (some do it a little more often like every 6 months ). I forgot how but it stresses something with the body is why you can only do it every so often at those very high doses. After both times I did it a few days after the last dose it felt like a slight fog had been lifted off my mind and I felt like I had a little more energy.

I think senescent cell reduction would mostly be beneficial for improving the quality of life as you age even more than extending the age you die at. It would probably delay or prevent alzheimers, cancer and heart disease for many years past when the person might have otherwise got those conditions.

As far as a true really turn the clock back fountain of youth I doubt that happens until they figure out some way to engineer the cells to revert to a younger state.
I'd rather die today and go to heaven than live to be 200 and go to hell.
 
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this combo is whats been proven to be effective, call me shocked i see people discussing senescence on this board!!! some good stuff in the pipeline so eat your veggies and berries until this becomes settled science, as we all know science and settled science are not the same thing...

Science is never settled.
 
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put your hand in a fire and come back to me.

Firewalking is the act of walking barefoot over a bed of hot embers or heating stones. It has been practiced by many people and cultures in many parts of the world, with the earliest known reference dating from Iron Age India c. 1200 BCE. It is often used as a rite of passage, as a test of strength and courage, and in religion as a test of faith.

Fire walking, religious ceremony practiced in many parts of the world, including the Indian subcontinent, Malaya, Japan, China, Fiji Islands, Tahiti, Society Islands, New Zealand, Mauritius, Bulgaria, and Spain. It was also practiced in classical Greece and in ancient India and China.
 
Firewalking is the act of walking barefoot over a bed of hot embers or heating stones. It has been practiced by many people and cultures in many parts of the world, with the earliest known reference dating from Iron Age India c. 1200 BCE. It is often used as a rite of passage, as a test of strength and courage, and in religion as a test of faith.

Fire walking, religious ceremony practiced in many parts of the world, including the Indian subcontinent, Malaya, Japan, China, Fiji Islands, Tahiti, Society Islands, New Zealand, Mauritius, Bulgaria, and Spain. It was also practiced in classical Greece and in ancient India and China.
There are stupid people everywhere not just in the US.
 
Agreed. Take the last third of your life where quality of life starts to degrade. Create a pill that reverses that degradation, then you have a winner.


Yep, keep people alive and in pain longer, so they need more medicine to ease their pain and suffering.

My guess looking at animal studies is if you get that senescent cell burden lowered enough the main thing it will due is extend the years you are not all broken down. If they could make it where 70 was like mid 50s etc. that would be huge.
 
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And that would somehow prove that science is ever settled?

Speaking of fire I think that is the only thing that was ever shown to grow the hair back on an older guy that was completely bald up front with standard male pattern baldness. Unfortunately they never tried experiments with that to perfect what happened there.
 
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Speaking of fire I think that is the only thing that was ever shown to grow the hair back on an older guy that was completely bald up front with standard male pattern baldness. Unfortunately they never tried experiments with that to perfect what happened there.

Wait, what??? 😂

You can help cure male pattern baldness with fire?
 
Wait, what??? 😂

You can help cure male pattern baldness with fire?

Yep it was documented with pictures in a medical journal back in the late 80s. The guy got drunk and passed out and fell into coal flames for a bit. The smooth bald front of his head scabbed up pretty good and then 2 weeks later hair sprouted up and 4 months later was filled in. Surprised some rich baldies haven't experimented with that.
 
Put your hand in a fire and get back to me we can discuss how settled it is.

Or you could simply explain how me putting my hand in a fire would prove that science is ever settled.

We've put the science to bed many times over the course of human history. The problem is that science never stays in that bed. Our understanding is constantly evolving...even in areas where we simply didn't believe that it was possible.
 
Yep it was documented with pictures in a medical journal back in the late 80s. The guy got drunk and passed out and fell into coal flames for a bit. The smooth bald front of his head scabbed up pretty good and then 2 weeks later hair sprouted up and 4 months later was filled in. Surprised some rich baldies haven't experimented with that.

How have I never heard about this? I pride myself on being a repository of useless knowledge.

...this could actually be useful...so maybe I've answered my own question.

Personally I'd rather be bald. Baldness is one sign of high testosterone...which can keep the yang up iykwim.
 
Or you could simply explain how me putting my hand in a fire would prove that science is ever settled.

We've put the science to bed many times over the course of human history. The problem is that science never stays in that bed. Our understanding is constantly evolving...even in areas where we simply didn't believe that it was possible.
You mean like galaxy traveling anti-gravity ships and zero-point energy??? 😉

 
Or you could simply explain how me putting my hand in a fire would prove that science is ever settled.

We've put the science to bed many times over the course of human history. The problem is that science never stays in that bed. Our understanding is constantly evolving...even in areas where we simply didn't believe that it was possible.
I know where you’re going but I think if you put your hand in the fire you will know where I am.
 
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