ADVERTISEMENT

OT: Pray for Orlando

What Americans are calling for the execution of homosexuals? And if it's about paternalistic tribal societies why are kids raised in middle class familes in Germany, Belgium, France, and the U.K. joining ISIS and carrying out large scale terror attacks?

1st ... you said Saudi, that was my response.

2nd... you are being intentionally myopic if you say you haven't heard the anti-gay rhetoric in the US. Are you saying youbhave no knowledge of any hate crimes against gays where the person was killed because they were gay?

3... why are kids joining ISIS, for the same reasons that kids in the States join gangs and do stupid ish. These kids are caught up in the "romanticism" of being apart of something they think is anti-establishment.

Many of those kids are trying to return, even with the threat of incarceration because they get there and realize ot isn't cool or that "islam" ISIS practices is completely different from what islam is about.

I would add, the Governments of Saudi Arabia and other theocracies, the Taliban, ISIS and AQ are using Islam to keep power and to oppress their societies. It is wrong and their interpretations of Islam is wrong.
 
Really...

Kony heads the Lord's Resistance Army.. it is Christian based and is responsible for terrorism and heinous crimes. The KKK, The Orange Volunteers in Ireland, The Aryan Nation movent here in America and the Christian Identity movement to name a few.

The FBI estimates there is no more than 4000 active Klan members, and about 6000 active white Christian identity folks in America. And I don't recall hearing a peep out of either of them in quite some time.
 
This guy beat his wife and was apparently an all-around angry, difficult person. This was long before ISIL.

I strongly believe that most hardcore terrorists are born, not made. They just use terrorist ideology to rationalize their preexisting anger/arrogance/hatred/insanity of whoever their culture perceives as being the "Other." In the Middle East, that means being a radical Islamist who hates the West and "Zionists." In the US, that might mean some violent white supremacist group who hates various non-white minorities.

If Eric Harris (of Columbine fame) was born in the Middle East, and was raised a Muslim, he probably would have killed just as many people as he did in the US. The difference is that he would have done it "in the name of Allah" or would have just been a killer for some other reason.
 
The FBI estimates there is no more than 4000 active Klan members, and about 6000 active white Christian identity folks in America. And I don't recall hearing a peep out of either of them in quite some time.

Then you haven't been looking hard enough. KKK and the CIM fall inder the umbrella of white supremacists. If you havent heard of any attacks in America by these folks.. not sure what to tell you.

Nice try though.
 
You made the claim. Feel free to back it up.

I'll post a few...


KKK attacks....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/louisiana-woman-fire-kkk-attack

Frazier Glenn Cross attack

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ngs-at-kansas-city-jewish-sites-linked-to-kkk

Dylan Roof - killed folks in the Church - White Supremacist

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/2...y-arrested-for-alleged-hate-crime-attack.html

How about this one - from one of our former 82nd ABN soldiers (which made me SMDH)

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...ple-killer-wade-michael-page-radicalized-army

How about the attack by Larry McWilliams - a CIM person... these next two articles discuss that.

http://kxan.com/2014/12/01/chief-on-austin-gunman-hate-was-in-his-heart/

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/04/3599271/austin-shooter-christian-extremism/


Folks use religion for what they need, if they want to find love and compassion no matter the religion they will find verses that to follow that stand for love and compassion. If they want to find hate and violence they will do the same.
 
The FBI estimates there is no more than 4000 active Klan members, and about 6000 active white Christian identity folks in America. And I don't recall hearing a peep out of either of them in quite some time.

Should we not be concerned by the presence of 10,000 KKK equivalents in this country?

This country is freaking out over Obama agreeing to take in 10,000 Syrian refugees, but 10,000 klansman already living here? No big deal?
 
I'll post a few...


KKK attacks....

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/louisiana-woman-fire-kkk-attack

Frazier Glenn Cross attack

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ngs-at-kansas-city-jewish-sites-linked-to-kkk

Dylan Roof - killed folks in the Church - White Supremacist

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/02/2...y-arrested-for-alleged-hate-crime-attack.html

How about this one - from one of our former 82nd ABN soldiers (which made me SMDH)

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-...ple-killer-wade-michael-page-radicalized-army

How about the attack by Larry McWilliams - a CIM person... these next two articles discuss that.

http://kxan.com/2014/12/01/chief-on-austin-gunman-hate-was-in-his-heart/

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/04/3599271/austin-shooter-christian-extremism/


Folks use religion for what they need, if they want to find love and compassion no matter the religion they will find verses that to follow that stand for love and compassion. If they want to find hate and violence they will do the same.

Two attacks from the Klan (one of which may or may not be actual Klan members.) in the last four years, and 3 attacks by White Xian Identity groups out of 10,000 suspected members. And one angry kid who may or may not have been associated with either, That's pretty much statistically insignificant.

The KKK of today is largely toothless. Every now and again they hold a rally somewhere and bitch about ******s and Jews, but they rarely do anything more than that. The white supremacy movement has morphed into a white separatist movement, since they finally figured out very few people hold their views. The only place you'll find either of them in large numbers is the Internet, places like Stormfront.org. And if you don't think they aren't heavily infiltrated by law enforcement, you aren't paying attention.

The Klan and other white supremacists were the major threat in the 1960s. Today, it's Muslims. These are facts.
 
Two attacks from the Klan (one of which may or may not be actual Klan members.) in the last four years, and 3 attacks by White Xian Identity groups out of 10,000 suspected members. And one angry kid who may or may not have been associated with either, That's pretty much statistically insignificant.

The KKK of today is largely toothless. Every now and again they hold a rally somewhere and bitch about ******s and Jews, but they rarely do anything more than that. The white supremacy movement has morphed into a white separatist movement, since they finally figured out very few people hold their views. The only place you'll find either of them in large numbers is the Internet, places like Stormfront.org. And if you don't think they aren't heavily infiltrated by law enforcement, you aren't paying attention.

The Klan and other white supremacists were the major threat in the 1960s. Today, it's Muslims. These are facts.


I gave you the attacks that were reported as hate crimes. Who knows how many more are racially motivated. I like how you are changing the whole premise of what was said. Are there Christian terrorists? Yes. Jave they been responsible for attacks on innocents? Yes. Are they still active? Yes.

The original premise was there were nongrouos as widely followed and violent as ISIS that were Christian... there are and have been. I named those. Are you denying Kony exists? Youbaleeadybsaid the KKK exists... you even said they have infiltrated Law Enforcement. Selectively enforcing the law in some rural areas against minorities and not whites, extra-judicial activities, the "justified shootings" by some of these folks, isn't terrorism to you, butbis to those subjected to illegal police activity. Thatbis considered violence. Yet you admit they exist but ignore what is going on.

ISIS is a scourge upon Islam and muslims as it it on the rest of the world. These musims extremists have killed more muslims than Christians. Yet we as Christians have killed infinitely more innocent muslims. Yet we call it war? Collateral damage?
 
I gave you the attacks that were reported as hate crimes. Who knows how many more are racially motivated. I like how you are changing the whole premise of what was said. Are there Christian terrorists? Yes. Jave they been responsible for attacks on innocents? Yes. Are they still active? Yes.

And Xian terrorists have killed about 45 people in the past thirty years.

The original premise was there were nongrouos as widely followed and violent as ISIS that were Christian... there are and have been. I named those. Are you denying Kony exists
Boko Haram and ISIS kill about 150 people a day. Fetch me ANY other terrorist group of any religious affiliation with that kind of kill totals. Go ahead, I'll wait.

the KKK exists... you even said they have infiltrated Law Enforcement.
No, I said that the KKK and Stormfront have been well infiltrated by law enforcement and the FBI. The reason for this is it never occurs to them to doubt anyone that agrees with them. They aren't that bright. Reading comprehension is your friend.


Selectively enforcing the law in some rural areas against minorities and not whites, extra-judicial activities, the "justified shootings" by some of these folks, isn't terrorism to you, butbis to those subjected to illegal police activity. Thatbis considered violence. Yet you admit they exist but ignore what is going on.

Now who's moving the goalposts? There is no way of ascertaining how much of that is poor policework as opposed to specific acts of racism.

ISIS is a scourge upon Islam and muslims as it it on the rest of the world. These musims extremists have killed more muslims than Christians. Yet we as Christians have killed infinitely more innocent muslims. Yet we call it war? Collateral damage?

YOU as Xians. Don't lump me in, I'm not a Xian. Between Iraq and Afghanistan we haven't come closed to touching the amount of death that preceded us in that region.

There are Muslims killing each other, and Christians over half of the African continent. They are currently raping and killing their way thru Europe and into Great Britain.

Go ahead and plant your head firmly in the sand. The sooner you dumbasses figure out that Xians aren't the problem in this country, the better of all of us will be.
 
And Xian terrorists have killed about 45 people in the past thirty years.


Boko Haram and ISIS kill about 150 people a day. Fetch me ANY other terrorist group of any religious affiliation with that kind of kill totals. Go ahead, I'll wait.


No, I said that the KKK and Stormfront have been well infiltrated by law enforcement and the FBI. The reason for this is it never occurs to them to doubt anyone that agrees with them. They aren't that bright. Reading comprehension is your friend.




Now who's moving the goalposts? There is no way of ascertaining how much of that is poor policework as opposed to specific acts of racism.



YOU as Xians. Don't lump me in, I'm not a Xian. Between Iraq and Afghanistan we haven't come closed to touching the amount of death that preceded us in that region.

There are Muslims killing each other, and Christians over half of the African continent. They are currently raping and killing their way thru Europe and into Great Britain.

Go ahead and plant your head firmly in the sand. The sooner you dumbasses figure out that Xians aren't the problem in this country, the better of all of us will be.

I m not moving anything, I responded to your tangental rant. I may have misread what you typed but I ll stick with the point that racists/white supremacists have infiltrated law enforcement. I typed what I meant.... no you didn't type that, but I ll stick to what I said.

Additionally my post was that there are "Christian" groups that considered terrorists.

You said there were no attacks, I provided links. But then you wanted to minimize what they have been doing.


Because you don't hear about it you think it does not exist.

45 people in 30 years. Kony and his followers have killed more than that on their own. OKC bombing, and on and on. The intent is there in each of the attacks and have been in the past. Do they represent Christianity? Of course not.

What you call Terroism some call war. What you call war some call terrorism. You are so wrapped up in your fear of Islam you can't see theough your bigotry. You actually believe that ISIS, Boko, Al Shabab, AQ represent Islam?

Does the KKK, IRA, Kony represent Christianity?

Do the actions of the US military represent Christianity? Of course not .... some view it that way. Especially when some estimate that there have been approximately 2 million deaths due to direct and indirect action, by the US government/military. Some folks have a perception that this is a religion driven action and they perceive the US actions as a form of terrorism.

Likewise, do the actions of the Israeli Government represent Judaism? No but some think i that is the case.

Trying to lessen the deaths of innocents caused by US action, by saying we haven't come close to the death numbers that preceeded us is flawed. Guess what, self-identified muslim terrorists haven't come close to the number of deaths in the US that preceeded them... and yet no one is condemning Christianity.

But...

In the end you call all that disagree with your "perception" dumbasses because we don't adhere to your myopic view as to what a muslim and Islam are about or your xenophobic hysteria.

No one said Christians are the problem... not sure where you got that idea.
 
The OKC bombing had nothing to do with any religion. It was purely motivated by anti government sentiment.

I know more about Muslims and Islam than you could ever dream of. My parents survived their little sojourn from India into Pakistan when the British up and left. I've also spent quite a bit of time in Africa.

And do the KKK and the IRA, represent Xianity? Of course they do. They are justifying their actions based on the same book. Of course, I have a rather dim view of Xianity as well.

Kony is a lunatic, and he's not Xian, any more than someone that practices Xian derived religions like Santeria and Voodoo are. He believes he's a messenger from God and a spirit medium.

The US Military doesn't kill anyone in the name of religion. When Iraq goes to war with Iran, they are.

Liberals like to throw out the term xenophobia when people don't follow their narrative. That's fine, I'll continue to be "afraid" of Muslims. What you call myopic, I call pragmatic.
 
The OKC bombing had nothing to do with any religion. It was purely motivated by anti government sentiment.

I know more about Muslims and Islam than you could ever dream of. My parents survived their little sojourn from India into Pakistan when the British up and left. I've also spent quite a bit of time in Africa.

And do the KKK and the IRA, represent Xianity? Of course they do. They are justifying their actions based on the same book. Of course, I have a rather dim view of Xianity as well.

Kony is a lunatic, and he's not Xian, any more than someone that practices Xian derived religions like Santeria and Voodoo are. He believes he's a messenger from God and a spirit medium.

The US Military doesn't kill anyone in the name of religion. When Iraq goes to war with Iran, they are.

Liberals like to throw out the term xenophobia when people don't follow their narrative. That's fine, I'll continue to be "afraid" of Muslims. What you call myopic, I call pragmatic.

You have a bunch of assumptions in your little rant. I ll let you assume you know more about Islam than I. And obviously your myopic view is motivated by some deep seeded prejudices.

You discount and ignore facts because it doesn't fit your very narrow narrative. Then you make illogical statements to try and support your position.

OKC ... McVeigh.. part of the Christian Identity Movement... gets the idea from The Turner Diaries. No it wasn't simply anti-government.

The KKK and IRA are not representative of what Christianity stands for... seriously, you have the opinion that all Christians think non-whites are less than human or whatever twisted belief system they have? Or that all Catholics think Protestans should die? (Yes the IRA was fighting for more and they believed the were fighting English oppression, but some are violently anti-Protestant)

If you try to pull that b.s that "representative of Christianity" means they are simply Christian, then you are trolling. Those people and their beliefs in no-way represent what Christianity stands for. I also see you left out the Israli government's policies being representative of Jewish beliefs around the world .

Since the Kony argument doesn't fit your narrative you try to minimize the fact that he claims to be fighting and killing for Christianity. Oh, his form of Christianity doesn't count because he is a lunatic? Well guess what so arr most of the folks in AQ, ISIS, AL Shabab. Yet those folks are representative of Islam but Kony isn't representative of Christianity.

I like how you threw out Santeria and Voodoo as red herrings. Neither conform their beliefs to Christianity. Kony does, but I will say claims to be Christian... he isn't. But this does not fit your narrative... so you ignore and try to pass off faulty logic.

Of course the US military isn't fighting a religious war. Did I say that... I didn't even imply that. I typed it is what some perceive..doesn't fit your argument does it.

Then you make the misinformed comment about Iraq and Iran going to war. Those two countries haven't been to war since the 80s and it wasn't religion that was the basis for the war. But that is what you perceived it was a war of Shia v. Sunni. It is laughable that you think your "perception" on that issue is correct, but then try to dismiss my argument as to people's perception as the US being in a holy war of Christianity v. Islam.

BTW since you "know more about Islam than I", you would have known that Iraq has a Shia majority (up to 70-75%) and a Sunni minority population (25-30%) before you typed it. So tell me how that war was a religious war?


Again with the misinformed label... liberal. Yet xenophobic at least applies to your viewpoints v. your tantrum filled retort of dumba$$es for those who don't agree with you.

As I said.. all those jacka $$es like ISIS and their ilk are not representative of Islam or muslims, just like the KKK etc do not rep Christianity.
 
Timothy McVeigh blew up the courthouse as revenge for Waco. And he was an agnostic. Xian terrorists do things like nlowing up abortion clinics and killing doctors because they believe they are doing God's work. It wouldn't have mattered if McVeigh was a Muslim, or Hindu, or a Buddhist, his motivation for blowing up the courthouse was part of his war against the government.

Nothing Kony believes has anything to do with Xianity. He believes in 13 spirits, one of whom is Chinese. To claim to be an adherent of a religion, you have to follow the religion, at least part of it. My narrative has nothing to do with it. If anything is a red herring, it's this claim that Kony and his group are Xians. But you said the same thing in one of your earlier posts, that he's not Xian. So why did you include his name at all since he has nothing to do with this discussion?

Westboro and the Klan and the Christian white identity movement are at least quoting things from the Bible, even if they are misinterpreting the crap out of them.

Al-quada, ISIS, al-shab, and Boko Harem all follow Islam, just not the way progressive Muslims do. There is nothing they do that they can't pull a passage out of the Qu'ran or the Hadith that justifies it. You are allowed ti lie to kaffir, to kill kaffir, to enslave kaffir.

I know who lives in in Iraq. Kurds and Coptic Xians in there too. But when they went to war in the 80s, it was the Sunni power base going to war against Iran's Shia power base. The Sunnis now find themselves up shit creek again, like they did right after the first Gulf war.

I have no knowledge of what Jews around the world do, so I can't comment on Israeli policy. I tend to support them because I don't live in a country that is surrounded by its enemies and could be at war at a moments notice, so I try not to judge them too harshly.

I note you have completely ignored what the Muslims are doing in Europe and Great Britain? Why is that?

You may not be a liberal or even a dem, but you are doing what they do, bending over backwards not to offend, and claiming these Muslims don't represent Islam.
 
Last edited:
Timothy McVeigh blew up the courthouse as revenge for Waco. And he was an agnostic. Xian terrorists do things like nlowing up abortion clinics and killing doctors because they believe they are doing God's work. It wouldn't have mattered if McVeigh was a Muslim, or Hindu, or a Buddhist, his motivation for blowing up the courthouse was part of his war against the government.

Nothing Kony believes has anything to do with Xianity. He believes in 13 spirits, one of whom is Chinese. To claim to be an adherent of a religion, you have to follow the religion, at least part of it. My narrative has nothing to do with it. If anything is a red herring, it's this claim that Kony and his group are Xians. But you said the same thing in one of your earlier posts, that he's not Xian. So why did you include his name at all since he has nothing to do with this discussion?

Westboro and the Klan and the Christian white identity movement are at least quoting things from the Bible, even if they are misinterpreting the crap out of them.

Al-quada, ISIS, al-shab, and Boko Harem all follow Islam, just not the way progressive Muslims do. There is nothing they do that they can't pull a passage out of the Qu'ran or the Hadith that justifies it. You are allowed ti lie to kaffir, to kill kaffir, to enslave kaffir.

I know who lives in in Iraq. Kurds and Coptic Xians in there too. But when they went to war in the 80s, it was the Sunni power base going to war against Iran's Shia power base. The Sunnis now find themselves up shit creek again, like they did right after the first Gulf war.

I have no knowledge of what Jews around the world do, so I can't comment on Israeli policy. I tend to support them because I don't live in a country that is surrounded by its enemies and could be at war at a moments notice, so I try not to judge them too harshly.

I note you have completely ignored what the Muslims are doing in Europe and Great Britain? Why is that?

You may not be a liberal or even a dem, but you are doing what they do, bending over backwards not to offend, and claiming these Muslims don't represent Islam.

I am not worrying about offending anyone; in fact I will agree that extremist who distort islam for personal gain or justification to hate are a serious national defense issue.

I just call BS on blanket statements that all muslims are bad or Islam is a violent religion.

With that said you are sooooooo misinformed and have reading comprehension problems or are intentionally trying to distort meanings of phrases.

1. Mcveigh was not agnostic. McVeigh's beliefs were firmly rooted in the CIM. Revenge for Waco.. the death of David K and his religious cult members?

2. Kony... you need to research better and just not stop at websites that support your viewpoint.

3. The Iran/Iraq war had nothing to donwith religion.

4. I didn't ignore what is going on in Europe... it had absolutely nothing to do with what the original premise of the discussion... nothing.

You have your myopic view of what muslims are and what Islam is. That is ok. It does come in handy at times. Muslim extremists need to be stopped and destroyed it is simple.

But throwing a blanket of condemnation over an entire religion is short-sighted and lazy.
 
If you don't understand why what is going on in Europe has everything to do with what is going on here, this discussion is moot.

We are both quoting from sources that support our position. I have a time magazine article interview where McVeigh says he believes in God, but he's not a Catholic anymore. And Waco wasn't about religion, that was the excuse the government used to test some theories of theirs. Nutballs they might have been, but nobody from that cult was ever charged with anything. As a matter of fact, the average Branch Davidian owned less guns than the average Texan. He wasn't getting revenge for Xians, the Branch Davidians werent CIM folks. He was getting revenge for what he saw was an assault on liberty. Givben the events that took place at Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Bundy Ranch, I don't think he's wrong about the direction the government is headed, I do condemn his choice of reaction to it.

I pulled what I know of Joesph Kony and his merry band of thugs straight from wikipedia, so apparently I'm not the only person that is confused.

Islam is dangerous. Even large majorities of the so called "peaceful" practitioners are big fans of sharia law, and quite a large segment, maybe as much as 25%, tacitly approve of the doings of "radical" Muslims. They do not blend into the countries they inhabit, they instead create little mini versions of whatever shit country they came from.

Muslim immigration into this country needs to be examined. OUR Muslims have integrated perfectly into our society, into our police forces, into our military. They are as American as any of us. It's these new ones I don't trust.
 
If you don't understand why what is going on in Europe has everything to do with what is going on here, this discussion is moot.

We are both quoting from sources that support our position. I have a time magazine article interview where McVeigh says he believes in God, but he's not a Catholic anymore. And Waco wasn't about religion, that was the excuse the government used to test some theories of theirs. Nutballs they might have been, but nobody from that cult was ever charged with anything. As a matter of fact, the average Branch Davidian owned less guns than the average Texan. He wasn't getting revenge for Xians, the Branch Davidians werent CIM folks. He was getting revenge for what he saw was an assault on liberty. Givben the events that took place at Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Bundy Ranch, I don't think he's wrong about the direction the government is headed, I do condemn his choice of reaction to it.

I pulled what I know of Joesph Kony and his merry band of thugs straight from wikipedia, so apparently I'm not the only person that is confused.

Islam is dangerous. Even large majorities of the so called "peaceful" practitioners are big fans of sharia law, and quite a large segment, maybe as much as 25%, tacitly approve of the doings of "radical" Muslims. They do not blend into the countries they inhabit, they instead create little mini versions of whatever shit country they came from.

Muslim immigration into this country needs to be examined. OUR Muslims have integrated perfectly into our society, into our police forces, into our military. They are as American as any of us. It's these new ones I don't trust.

Agreed - scary stuff, but sadly true. I went to the memorials and a couple of the fund raisers. You don't really get the emotion of it all until you do. You saw my pics on Facebook right? :(
 
If you don't understand why what is going on in Europe has everything to do with what is going on here, this discussion is moot.

We are both quoting from sources that support our position. I have a time magazine article interview where McVeigh says he believes in God, but he's not a Catholic anymore. And Waco wasn't about religion, that was the excuse the government used to test some theories of theirs. Nutballs they might have been, but nobody from that cult was ever charged with anything. As a matter of fact, the average Branch Davidian owned less guns than the average Texan. He wasn't getting revenge for Xians, the Branch Davidians werent CIM folks. He was getting revenge for what he saw was an assault on liberty. Givben the events that took place at Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the Bundy Ranch, I don't think he's wrong about the direction the government is headed, I do condemn his choice of reaction to it.

I pulled what I know of Joesph Kony and his merry band of thugs straight from wikipedia, so apparently I'm not the only person that is confused.

Islam is dangerous. Even large majorities of the so called "peaceful" practitioners are big fans of sharia law, and quite a large segment, maybe as much as 25%, tacitly approve of the doings of "radical" Muslims. They do not blend into the countries they inhabit, they instead create little mini versions of whatever shit country they came from.

Muslim immigration into this country needs to be examined. OUR Muslims have integrated perfectly into our society, into our police forces, into our military. They are as American as any of us. It's these new ones I don't trust.

Islam is not "dangerous" ... Are there concerns about extremists? Absolutely. Throwing blanket statements on a group of individuals simply because they are adherents to a particular religion is dangerous. Islam and muslims are not some "hate group". There are individual groups that use the religion to maintain power and support their hate, but that happens with all religions. Some are more violent than others, but that should not be a condemnation of an entire religion.
 
Islam is not "dangerous" ...

Religion is probably the most dangerous thing on the planet right now.

I hate to do this because either Pass bans me at this point or I ban myself, but religion- and especially the Abrahamic religions are all absolutely dangerous if you read the scriptures in each corresponding faith. I won't bother to quote all of them here and there, you can look for yourself.

There's genocide, pitiless brutality, global extermination, genital mutilation and rape described in all of the sacraments of the big three.
 
Religion is probably the most dangerous thing on the planet right now.

I hate to do this because either Pass bans me at this point or I ban myself, but religion- and especially the Abrahamic religions are all absolutely dangerous if you read the scriptures in each corresponding faith. I won't bother to quote all of them here and there, you can look for yourself.

There's genocide, pitiless brutality, global extermination, genital mutilation and rape described in all of the sacraments of the big three.

I disagree as to dangerous, probably because I view "dangerous" in this context differently. I get your point though.

But the rest of what you describe is basically my point.
 
Religion is probably the most dangerous thing on the planet right now.

I hate to do this because either Pass bans me at this point or I ban myself, but religion- and especially the Abrahamic religions are all absolutely dangerous if you read the scriptures in each corresponding faith. I won't bother to quote all of them here and there, you can look for yourself.

There's genocide, pitiless brutality, global extermination, genital mutilation and rape described in all of the sacraments of the big three.

I think you meant to say "scripture." Sacraments are very specific things.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT