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Harvin was the definition of football speed over track speed.

Not sure what to think of Bowman and Lingard right now but Bowman I think didnt show up to Clemson until right when camp started while Lingard should have broken out by now if he was going to. If Bowman turns out to be the real deal like his recruit ranking it will probably be known prior to the kickoff of the season. Would be nice to have a real playmaker back there again.
 
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Harvin was the definition of football speed over track speed.

Not sure what to think of Bowman and Lingard right now but Bowman I think didnt show up to Clemson until right when camp started while Lingard should have broken out by now if he was going to. If Bowman turns out to be the real deal like his recruit ranking it will probably be known prior to the kickoff of the season. Would be nice to have a real playmaker back there again.

RB's need to learn the system and the blocking schemes. We had guys ahead of him that already had that stuff down. Not having a Spring or Summer certainly didn't help. Let's see what he can do this year.
 
So it’s a decent take. But it ignores that we went from OC Dan Mullen to OC Addazio at the same time. That was at least as big a reason for the offensive drop as losing Percy.
Yep 100% correct. Harvin was a big loss but there is a huge drop off from Dan Mullen to Steve Addazio as well. We still had plenty of offensive weapons on that 2009 team.
 
Harvin was the definition of football speed over track speed.

Not sure what to think of Bowman and Lingard right now but Bowman I think didnt show up to Clemson until right when camp started while Lingard should have broken out by now if he was going to. If Bowman turns out to be the real deal like his recruit ranking it will probably be known prior to the kickoff of the season. Would be nice to have a real playmaker back there again.

The 2 players that i have seen who always looked faster in pads were Harvin and Cook. I dont know what it is about those 2, elite acceleration and just gone.
 
So it’s a decent take. But it ignores that we went from OC Dan Mullen to OC Addazio at the same time. That was at least as big a reason for the offensive drop as losing Percy.

Cant count the arguments there were about that 2009 offense (prior to the beatdown from Bama) being a lot worse than the 2007 and 2008 offense despite the stats saying it wasn't that much worse in many things. If I remember right the huge difference was in 07 and 08 we scored a lot and had good yardage against our SEC foes while in 09 the overall stats were masked by us really running up the stats on the non-SEC opponents while being a lot worse overall against the SEC teams that season.

* I could be wrong on Insta saying this -but I think it was Insta and a few others that kept throwing the overall yardage numbers up trying to act like the offense was in good hands in 2009 despite us constantly bogging down in the red zone against the better SEC defenses.

Edit: Here are the final stats from 2008 and 2009:

2009: # 6 offense yards per game - 458, # 9 scoring offense - 36 pts a game

2008: # 15 offense yards per game - 445, # 4 scoring offense - 44 pts a game

Crazy numbers with the yards per game 2009 compared to 2008 but even with all games included you could see we were kicking a lot more FGs in 2009.
 
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I hope Demarkus Bowman can repeat these moves.

They are just so MANY of them. I remember one against Miss State, where there couldn't have been more than maybe a 1 foot gap, and he shot through there like a bullet and was gone. He was almost 10 yards past the linebackers before they realized they had to change direction. It was just unbelievable.
 
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Harvin very well may be the best UF player of all time based on pure talent during their college years. But for me I still have to give the edge to Tebow & Wuerrfel and since I’ve been a UF fan since the early 80s I have to throw Wilbur Marshall and Emmitt Smith into the picture.
 
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Yep 100% correct. Harvin was a big loss but there is a huge drop off from Dan Mullen to Steve Addazio as well. We still had plenty of offensive weapons on that 2009 team.
We just lost it in the SEC game...I remember Murphy pulling on the defender to catch the only TD against LSU that year...dirty play but I have to respect that move. Great team though
 
Yep 100% correct. Harvin was a big loss but there is a huge drop off from Dan Mullen to Steve Addazio as well. We still had plenty of offensive weapons on that 2009 team.

Found the stat that clearly points out how that 2009 offense was so much worse than the 2007 and 2008 ones against decent competition and the stats were just blown up running it up on the non-SEC teams we played that season. The stats are even worse than I thought they would be. We scored only 12 TDs when making it to the red zone in our 9 SEC conference games giving a terrible under 30% TD conversion rate while we converted TDs over 81% of the time against the 5 non-SEC schools. Settling for red zone FGs at ten times the rate in our SEC games compared to the easier competition. Even had an under 70% red zone scoring success against our SEC opponents.


vs. Conference9412868.291229.271639.02
vs. Non-Conference5272385.192281.4813.70
 
The biggest change was really going from Mullen to Addazio. That’s a big drop off. Losing Harvin hurt but there was still plenty of offensive talent on the 09 offense.
 
Found the stat that clearly points out how that 2009 offense was so much worse than the 2007 and 2008 ones against decent competition and the stats were just blown up running it up on the non-SEC teams we played that season. The stats are even worse than I thought they would be. We scored only 12 TDs when making it to the red zone in our 9 SEC conference games giving a terrible under 30% TD conversion rate while we converted TDs over 81% of the time against the 5 non-SEC schools. Settling for red zone FGs at ten times the rate in our SEC games compared to the easier competition. Even had an under 70% red zone scoring success against our SEC opponents.


vs. Conference9412868.291229.271639.02
vs. Non-Conference5272385.192281.4813.70
Mullen left, we had the pieces but him and Gonzalez were difference makers
 
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