OL is the weak link, or....
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It’s amazing when our guys are actually getting quality coaching and learning the fundamentals. It’s repetions and coaches harping on the small details. It’s beginning to show across the board.
OL is still weak but improved from better coaching and better play calling/scheming around their weaknesses by Dan.
I think they aren't one of the better O lines in the SEC but a good game plan was called for the MSU game to help them out. I think LSU will present a much bigger problem for our O line since they are better than MSU in the back end.
The Bayou Bungles front 7 and secondary is superior to the Mutts and the lizzerds struggled to score 13 points. This will be a big test for 3* Dans OLINE and offense regardless of instants propaganda fevered-brain.
I think the oline looking a bit better is kind of like Franks looking better and progressing. I don't think that the "lights" flipped on and they are both that much better. I think it's great coaching and of course both the oline/Franks are making strides...but I'd put more of the credit to coaching than they woke up GREAT players all of a sudden.
Either way - it's good haha
Yep Mullen did a pretty good job limiting the effect their two really good D linemen had. Ivey also decided to play harder that game.
We aren’t gonna use the same gameplan. We couldn’t block MSU’s front 7 man for man so Mullen used quick screens to force their outside backers out of the box to cover the quick game. It allowed us to run some against their dline by getting a numbers advantage. LSU runs a heavy 3-4 and can usually tie up 5 blockers with those 3 which gives them a numbers edge. So we’re gonna have to find some other way to get an advantage.
And Mullen will find that advantage. LSU hasn’t exactly been dominant on the defensive side of the ball this year. LSU has had a lot of penalties this year as well. I believe they had like 8-112yards against auburn. We have to play disciplined, smart football. Field position and making their inexperienced QB make plays.
Ageee with you. He carved up LSU last year so it’ll be interesting to see what parts of that gameplan transfer over if any.
The Bayou Bungles front 7 and secondary is superior to the Mutts and the lizzerds struggled to score 13 points. This will be a big test for 3* Dans OLINE and offense regardless of instants propaganda fevered-brain.
Are you ever gonna pause in your troll drivel long enough to give me your detailed review of your chokers BIG OT win over NR Army?
And when are your chokers going to play their 1st ranked opponent this season?
Until you address those two things, you're just another loser troll, barkin' at da moon...
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For the final NAIL in the Coffin for this head-nailed-to-da-flor & his chokers....
#19 Tex-azz 48 - 45 #7 Choke-la-homo in a Big12/10 Defensive Battle...
Dan with #22 UF 27 - 19 #5 LSU
Now nailed-head, which of us has the better HC & Players?
#19 Tex-azz 48 - 45 #7 Choke-la-homo in a Big12/10 Defensive Battle...
Dan with #22 UF 27 - 19 #5 LSU
Now nailed-head, which of us has the better HC & Players?
What's that noise?The Bayou Bungles front 7 and secondary is superior to the Mutts and the lizzerds struggled to score 13 points. This will be a big test for 3* Dans OLINE and offense regardless of instants propaganda fevered-brain.
The O-line has improved, especially in run blocking. Still not very good in pass protection and they have too many penalties. But they went up against a very good LSU front 7 tonight and held their own. Mullen & staff are coaching their tails off and the players are responding. Great to watch.
Hey Nails, you gonna come eat your crow????!
How did Oklahoma do with all those 4 & 5 Stars yesterday? Didn’t you just lose to a team with less stars that you? Good luck with Lincoln Riley. Your team will never play defense again as long as he is the coachThe Bayou Bungles front 7 and secondary is superior to the Mutts and the lizzerds struggled to score 13 points. This will be a big test for 3* Dans OLINE and offense regardless of instants propaganda fevered-brain.
The last time that the chokers played defense,,, this old fart was just back from VN.
I seem to remember the Buc drafting a pretty good DT player from there...
Lee Roy Selina,,, or something like that???
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The Closer / Waterboy Stiner had another game ending play.
And S/CB Brad Stewart came up with the Pic-6 that I'd been begging for all game.
CG-J has followed CJ with his much improved tackling, Way to go dude!
CB Dean is still getting punked by opponents with his Fr emotional outbursts, but he is also getting better as a CB each game. Get it under control on the field and you might make Fr All SEC yet.
All Around, UF is still the real DB-U.
LB Joseph had 14 Tkl's, 3.5 TFL including his 2 sacks
That earned him being named the Walter Camp National PoW.
The team had 5 sacks on the day, with 3 T-O's, now +11 in T-O margin.
They had a team total of 11 TFL and held LSU to just 4 of 13 on 3rd downs.
The Gator offense was far from perfect. They had a brutal red-zone turnover, also went 4-for-13 on 3rd down and were flagged 11 times for 116 penalty yards. But Florida proved to be the tougher team.
ocala, LSU - Had ZERO sacks and only 2 TFL vs the Gator OL.
They only got 1 T-O (Franks end-zone Int)
The LSU #4 SEC, #16 FBS run D was giving up just 103 yds/gm rushing.
The Gator's rushed for 215 yds with 2 Perine TD's.
The 2 Gator kickers are just as good as i said they were when I posted their kicking stats in the pre-season. Their importance to the games cannot be over-stated, and Tommy & Evan are both 4.0 people.
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Redshirt sophomore tight end Lucas Krull lined up wide to the right and went in motion. Franks took the snap and handed the ball to Krull. A left-handed pitcher at Arkansas prior to transferring to junior college last season, Krull briefly sold the run, then threw back across his body to a wide open Franks.
One step forward, 2 steps back... "I was hoping that somebody would run with me, and I could try to snatch it off somebody's head or something like that and get on SportsCenter," -- 44% Franks said.
And S/CB Brad Stewart came up with the Pic-6 that I'd been begging for all game.
CG-J has followed CJ with his much improved tackling, Way to go dude!
CB Dean is still getting punked by opponents with his Fr emotional outbursts, but he is also getting better as a CB each game. Get it under control on the field and you might make Fr All SEC yet.
All Around, UF is still the real DB-U.
LB Joseph had 14 Tkl's, 3.5 TFL including his 2 sacks
That earned him being named the Walter Camp National PoW.
The team had 5 sacks on the day, with 3 T-O's, now +11 in T-O margin.
They had a team total of 11 TFL and held LSU to just 4 of 13 on 3rd downs.
The Gator offense was far from perfect. They had a brutal red-zone turnover, also went 4-for-13 on 3rd down and were flagged 11 times for 116 penalty yards. But Florida proved to be the tougher team.
ocala, LSU - Had ZERO sacks and only 2 TFL vs the Gator OL.
They only got 1 T-O (Franks end-zone Int)
The LSU #4 SEC, #16 FBS run D was giving up just 103 yds/gm rushing.
The Gator's rushed for 215 yds with 2 Perine TD's.
The 2 Gator kickers are just as good as i said they were when I posted their kicking stats in the pre-season. Their importance to the games cannot be over-stated, and Tommy & Evan are both 4.0 people.
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Redshirt sophomore tight end Lucas Krull lined up wide to the right and went in motion. Franks took the snap and handed the ball to Krull. A left-handed pitcher at Arkansas prior to transferring to junior college last season, Krull briefly sold the run, then threw back across his body to a wide open Franks.
One step forward, 2 steps back... "I was hoping that somebody would run with me, and I could try to snatch it off somebody's head or something like that and get on SportsCenter," -- 44% Franks said.
Meanwhile Kyle Trask was helping little old ladies cross the street while whittling a pinewood derby car.
Always with the potshots. I love how he mentions Frank’s completion % regularly without accounting for the fact that we’re near top of the country in drops. But he couldn’t wait to mention drops to defend his pet Driskel. So obviously butthurt is Eagle Scout can’t get off the bench.
Look Franks has a lot of room for improvement but that also speaks to our overall team makeup to still be winning tough games. There are a lot of plays that Franks chooses to throw the ball away because there’s nothing there and he’s learned not to just throw the ball up. His one bad INT was a product of trying to do too much. Mullen is trying to break him of those habits that he developed last year when we were not coached fundamentals and where Franks was playing street ball because we had no offensive identity. I’m sure Mullen would love his “type” of QB but it’s what he has to work with.
Tonight on ESPN radio they were talking about the Gators to Fat Drooley. They asked him about a win or loss @ VU next week. His comment was the Gator should win, if Franks doesn't do a Feleipe'....
---- He also said that Franks is playing about like he always has, a good play, and then an Int in the endzone. So, go give him hell, cause I'm obviously not the ONLY one with eyes...
Franks is better than last year, but that's just not saying a whole lot imoho.
Can he get better? Sure, and he has, a little bit.
Will he ever take UF to an SEC-C? Yet to be seen, but I don't think so, unless it's in his rsSr season, and even then...
So far, the Gators are winning by running the ball and the monster D.
They are winning 'so far' in spite of Franks, not because of him.
Others are welcome to their own opinions, as always...
Isn’t that besides the point? If Dan feels Franks is the best option, than we have to think he knows a little about QB play. It’s easy to sit here and think we have a better option or that Trask can play better but so far, Trask has never started anywhere he’s ever been. Mullen is grooming Emory and will love to get Jalon Jones on campus ASAP. But for the now, he will ride with Franks as long as Franks doesn’t completely implode as a QB. Franks played solid at Miss State but LSU’s secondary is a little better than Miss State.
This is also a building year and nobody and I mean nobody on this board after the Kentucky game was envisioning us beating Tenn on the road, Miss State on the road and beating #5 LSU. This program in some ways has come full circle from last year. Mullen has managed to change the culture in 6 games. We have a lot of room to improve but isn’t that the exciting part.
This is also a building year and nobody and I mean nobody on this board after the Kentucky game was envisioning us beating Tenn on the road, Miss State on the road and beating #5 LSU. This program in some ways has come full circle from last year. Mullen has managed to change the culture in 6 games. We have a lot of room to improve but isn’t that the exciting part.
Nobody? You missed me I guess. And here why I felt that way.
The turn-around after UK had a lot to do with getting key players back.
ILB Reese - led team in 2017 in tackles, defensive leader
DE CeCe - led team in 2017 in TFL Sr defensive leader
S S.Davis - could have been a starter is not injured
CB McWilliams - not great, but had experience and coming on
Them, and also losing Marco in the !st quarter had a lot to do with losing to UK imo. Does anyone believe that if they played UK again now, that they would lose again?
But if you're claiming that CDM (and his staff) can't make any mistakes or bad choices, then you haven't been paying attention so far imo.
Scarlett over Perine/Pierce
Lewis over Stephens
Just for a couple of examples, and I won't go into the OL...
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Of course they can make mistakes but there are few coaches that are better at knowing QBs. Both QBs have had all offseason with Mullen to prove themselves. Franks came out on top. He hasn’t imploded or played terrible enough to justify a benching. His worst game was Kentucky and that was because we were getting punched in both sides of the ball with no response. I’m not 100% commutes with Franks but at the same time, he hasn’t played terrible enough to get benched. The offense was always going to be a working progress.
On the RB situation, I have always wanted pierce to get a lot more touches. But Dan apparently wants the more experienced RBs back there. Scarlett/Perine ran hard and had good games against a very good LSU front.
On the RB situation, I have always wanted pierce to get a lot more touches. But Dan apparently wants the more experienced RBs back there. Scarlett/Perine ran hard and had good games against a very good LSU front.
Opinions differ, your's are just as valid as anyone else's.
How good of a QB coach is Spurrier?
The 1st time that he watched Trask through a practice, he said that he liked him.
Mc immediately dismissed both Steve and Trask, fool that Mc was/is.
Dan (as a new incoming HC) chose Franks for 'team' acceptance reasons (prior starter) imo, not on pure QB talent. Maybe that was what he felt would get the best team response. I obviously can't read Dan's mind, that's just my own speculation. Many different reasons are possible.
RB's we agree on. How about TE's, you didn't mention the Lewis over Stephens choice?
I have never been high on Lewis mainly because of his brick hands and non existence in the passing game. My only thought on why he plays a lot is because of his pass/run blocking which has been pretty solid. I like Stephens and he runs very good routes. I would like to see more of Pitt as well. Pitt had a great clutch catch in the Miss State game.
I assume some of the freshman are just slightly behind on the overall schemes and that's why they haven't exactly been thrown into the fires yet. I am okay with this approach to coaching unless they are the better guy example Pierce (at least from what we have seen in limited touches).
Overall, I am very excited for our future and I am really hoping our recruiting takes off from here. I was thinking back to Kirbys first year and how they went 8-5 but they showed life and excited their fan base which ignited them into what they are today. Dan has done a remarkable job so far having taken over a team that was far less talented than that UGA team that year. I am only comparing us because it usually comes down to FL/GA game for the EAST and we hate them. They are the current measuring stick in the East.
I have to simply trust in Mullen on his QB choice as well as his other starters. Scarlett & Perine both impressed me against LSU with their tenacious running. Franks is a raw talent, but a tough dude who is obviously loved by his teammates. The whole team is playing harder and he is their offensive leader. The O-line is still a weakness, but has improved and at times has been very good in the running game. We have a lot of tight ends and wideouts and who starts doesn't seem to matter much as a bunch of them are getting playing time. Mullen is molding and building and doing it much faster than most people, me included, thought. The defensive front is deep and playing hard and the linebackers are getting the most out of their abilities. The secondary has been decimated and yet these young guys are holding their own and growing. I just can't second guess or question anything Mullen has done and is doing at this point. We're 5-1 with pretty much the same group of guys that looked lost last year. I just don't see any basis for finding fault. We all see flaws in this team, but the end results speak for themselves, IMO. Enjoy people!!
The same Dooley who had us getting blown out by Tennessee just three weeks ago and thought Mac was on his way to being an elite coach. Neither one of you know your ass from your elbow.
There’s only one clueless clown here who questions everything the coach does just because his man crush isn’t playing at QB. Trask is so great it’s just none of the coaches who’ve had him on their team have been able to see it. They’re all idiots and Insta knows much better than all of them.
Insta douchebag.
Try as he might he can’t hind that he’d rather us lose with Franks so he can come back here and scream I told you so.
OLine is weak very weak… When was the last long run frm UF? Dont count the Colarado and first game… Zero… They are not good but good Coaching is helping and helping them get better… This is what makes a good team a good team, great Coaching… To be honest the OLine is overachieving this year only because of Coaching…Mullen and staff are doing great…
Our fan base as a whole needs a reality check as well. Have we not forgotten that not long ago we were 4-7 or the year before when we weren’t competitive with ranked opponents. Recruits see how fan bases treat their players etc. Florida fans have gotten so bitter with their opinions and arm chair QB talk. Stand behind your players and enjoy winning again and winning big games. Enjoy quality coaching and OFFENSE! It’s going to be a working progress but we have come soooooo far in less than a year.
Great post!! We still need to be patient and Mullen already has us ahead of schedule IMO.
Of course if Trask plays I want him to be the next Heisman trophy winner.
I don't get the man-love for him though. I've never seen anything he's done (practice or games) which suggests he's better than Franks. Two things can both be true at the same time: Franks is average and Trask is not as good as that right now.
This isn't an either/or situation. And btw - Mullen agrees with me so I'll take him over a TV talking head.
