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Oh hell...they have proof Trump paid Stormy $850,000

First off twitter is not a source. Second not close to the same circumstances. Third, the Clintons are really good at paying people off. The Clinton campaign has been doing damage control for Bills philandering since he was Governor.
 
This is a good one, Ghost.

Ray - you are missing the point. Putting a former president in jail when Bill Clinton did essentially the same thing, and did not get impeached let alone put in jail, highlights that this has all the appearances of third world political targeting.

Again, I am no fan of DT per se, at all. But if the left is forced to explain through nuances, technicalities and ones depth and thoroughness of reading comprehension, then it is losing the overall narrative.
 
This is a good one, Ghost.

Ray - you are missing the point. Putting a former president in jail when Bill Clinton did essentially the same thing, and did not get impeached let alone put in jail, highlights that this has all the appearances of third world political targeting.

Again, I am no fan of DT per se, at all. But if the left is forced to explain through nuances, technicalities and ones depth and thoroughness of reading comprehension, then it is losing the overall narrative.

No Bill Clinton DID NOT do essentially the same thing...
He settled with Jones and paid her...trump tried to hide the payment

While all of the trump amateur legal defense has come out guns blazing who knows what Bragg's investigation has discovered?

Is it possible he's uncovered other crimes besides the hush payments?


BTW - Clinton was impeached...
 
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This is a good one, Ghost.

Ray - you are missing the point. Putting a former president in jail when Bill Clinton did essentially the same thing, and did not get impeached let alone put in jail, highlights that this has all the appearances of third world political targeting.
No, you're missing the point.

Bill Clinton settled out of court. It's a payoff nothing illegal about that.

The alleged complaint is that Trump diverted campaign funds to pay two women not to speak to the media about alleged affairs.

The campaign funds is what makes it illegal and the crucial difference here.
 
No Bill Clinton DID NOT do essentially the same thing...
He settled with Jones and paid her...trump tried to hide the payment

While all of the trump amateur legal defense has come out guns blazing who knows what Bragg's investigation has discovered?

Is it possible he's uncovered other crimes besides the hush payments?


BTW - Clinton was impeached...
Working backwards.

Yes, again, technicalities, he was "impeached" but not removed from office. I understand the difference but put that in there to highlight my point. The average voter does not make that delineation.

Agreed, no major law firm will eagerly engage with the former president. Their risk management boards, with good reason, will warn against the financial and reputational risks.

It is possible. To your point, we need to see what the ultimate indictment is.
 
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No, you're missing the point.

Bill Clinton settled out of court. It's a payoff nothing illegal about that.

The alleged complaint is that Trump diverted campaign funds to pay two women not to speak to the media about alleged affairs.

The campaign funds is what makes it illegal and the crucial difference here.
For argument and discussion purposes, lets say that's how it went down. That would be under the purview of federal elections oversight. Since when does a banana republic start overstepping their authority in matters of this type? The FEC has specific authority here, not NY.
 
No, you're missing the point.

Bill Clinton settled out of court. It's a payoff nothing illegal about that.

The alleged complaint is that Trump diverted campaign funds to pay two women not to speak to the media about alleged affairs.

The campaign funds is what makes it illegal and the crucial difference here.
Fair point, but you are in turn, making mine. I am, on a relative basis (fwiw, lol), a highly educated and informed voter. I did not have that distinction - which is a good one. The average one will not.

If campaign funds, and assuming that law is governed by federal statute, why is Alvin Bragg bringing the case? Is he trying to protect New York based donors who are wronged as Trump is mis-appropriating campaign funds to pay lawyers and potential witnesses?

Again, I am no fan of Trump.
 
You guys know any kangaroo court decision won't stand don't ya?

The case concerned congressional apportionment following the 2020 U.S. Census. The U.S. government asked the U.S. Supreme Court to consider if the president could order the U.S. secretary of commerce to exclude individuals residing unlawfully in the U.S. from the census' apportionment base.[1][2]

The court vacated the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York's decision in a 6-3 per curiam ruling, holding the coalition of state and local governments and NGOs did not have standing in this case. The court did not rule on the merits. Click here for more information about the ruling.
 
Fair point, but you are in turn, making mine. I am, on a relative basis (fwiw, lol), a highly educated and informed voter. I did not have that distinction - which is a good one. The average one will not.

If campaign funds, and assuming that law is governed by federal statute, why is Alvin Bragg bringing the case? Is he trying to protect New York based donors who are wronged as Trump is mis-appropriating campaign funds to pay lawyers and potential witnesses?

Again, I am no fan of Trump.
I don't know New York law, I'm dying to find out the jurisdiction myself.
 
’m Trey Gowdy, and it’s Sunday night in America.

On his first day in office, New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg announced all the crimes he would not prosecute. The person elected as the top law enforcement official had a long list of laws he didn’t respect enough to follow. He substituted his politics for the rule of law, because that’s what so called progressive prosecutors do. And there was narry a word of dissent. On the left, felonies would be downgraded. Serious cases dismissed or pled down. Prison terms would rarely be solved. Alvin Bragg was a social engineer masquerading as a prosecutor.

To some on the left, showing a photo ID to vote is antidemocratic, but apparently not a prosecutor who ignores the law. And yet we have finally stumbled upon the one crime worth the full weight of Alvin Bragg’s office. Forget about guns and robbery and acts of violence. What really gets his attention is paying someone to be quiet about sex. To be clear, Alvin Bragg will not prosecute people who pay for sex. That’s one of the crimes he promised to ignore. To him, you can pay someone for sex in New York and get away with it, but God forbid you pay someone to be quiet about it afterwards.

The demise of our country will be in direct proportion to how politicized our justice system remains. Our justice system should be where we go to escape politics. A place where both friend and foe are afforded fairness and due process, where nothing matters except the law and the facts. It takes no character or courage to be fair to your friends. The question is, can you be fair to your opponents?


 
Always makes me chuckle when the hypocrites get SO irate at being called out on their hypocrisy!

So libs take a RUMOR that Trump paid a chick hush money. They say "SEND TRUMP TO JAIL!" Hell even when you point out to them how they are literally tossing the law out the window they will flatly tell you "I DONT CARE!" right @gatorspeed?

But then when we find out that their boy actually DID THE VERY THING THE CLAIM TRUMP DID....well that's ok! LOL Magically, there's a VALID REASON why it was ok for Slick Willy to DO it, but when someone CLAIMS Trump did it, well he has to go to jail! LOL

Liberals cannot stand when you try to hold them to the same standard that they want to hold everyone else to.

Libs I'll tell you what....when you guys put all the dems in jail who have paid hush money to women, when they serve their sentences, then when you can PROVE that Trump DID THE SAME THING, then we can talk about jail time for Orange Man Bad.

Till then, piss off, ya hypocrites!
 
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Apparently there is a surprise witness today for the defense in Robert Costello, Cohen's former defense attorney. Claims are that Cohen never proved that Trump directed Cohen to pay Stormy Daniels in his previous trial. Get the popcorn popping.
 
Hey everyone look what I found on the twotter machine!!! Every sheep on here wanted bills head in the 90’s, every single one of you sheep. The Donald was one of bills biggest supporters…. Sheeple gonna sheeple
 
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Always makes me chuckle when the hypocrites get SO irate at being called out on their hypocrisy!

So libs take a RUMOR that Trump paid a chick hush money. They say "SEND TRUMP TO JAIL!" Hell even when you point out to them how they are literally tossing the law out the window they will flatly tell you "I DONT CARE!" right @gatorspeed?

But then when we find out that their boy actually DID THE VERY THING THE CLAIM TRUMP DID....well that's ok! LOL Magically, there's a VALID REASON why it was ok for Slick Willy to DO it, but when someone CLAIMS Trump did it, well he has to go to jail! LOL

Liberals cannot stand when you try to hold them to the same standard that they want to hold everyone else to.

Libs I'll tell you what....when you guys put all the dems in jail who have paid hush money to women, when they serve their sentences, then when you can PROVE that Trump DID THE SAME THING, then we can talk about jail time for Orange Man Bad.

Till then, piss off, ya hypocrites!
Ghost quit crying like a little baby and just admit your fat orange boy is in a heap of trouble? He’s just flat out stupid, heck here he is about to have to be publicly humiliated by having his mug shot taken lol what an idiot and shoot that’s just the beginning wait until the Georgia DA pops it to him and the DOJ! folks are sick of him atleast the ones in their right minds, dough boy is 75 years old he’s either facing jail time or the grave at this point, and to continue arguing over his lard behind is just a huge waste of time but carry on
 
Ghost quit crying like a little baby and just admit your fat orange boy is in a heap of trouble? He’s just flat out stupid, heck here he is about to have to be publicly humiliated by having his mug shot taken lol what an idiot and shoot that’s just the beginning wait until the Georgia DA pops it to him and the DOJ! folks are sick of him atleast the ones in their right minds, dough boy is 75 years old he’s either facing jail time or the grave at this point, and to continue arguing over his lard behind is just a huge waste of time but carry on
Gataspeed is reaching and mad AF this morning! 😂
 
This is a good one, Ghost.

Ray - you are missing the point. Putting a former president in jail when Bill Clinton did essentially the same thing, and did not get impeached let alone put in jail, highlights that this has all the appearances of third world political targeting.

Again, I am no fan of DT per se, at all. But if the left is forced to explain through nuances, technicalities and ones depth and thoroughness of reading comprehension, then it is losing the overall narrative.
I wish everyone could see it this way. A REAL American would think like you do. This could always come back around and burn YOUR side. But people are told by the media Trump is bad so they just accept that our government does not want him coming in and disrupting their pay days
 
Ghost quit crying like a little baby and just admit your fat orange boy is in a heap of trouble? He’s just flat out stupid, heck here he is about to have to be publicly humiliated by having his mug shot taken lol what an idiot and shoot that’s just the beginning wait until the Georgia DA pops it to him and the DOJ! folks are sick of him atleast the ones in their right minds, dough boy is 75 years old he’s either facing jail time or the grave at this point, and to continue arguing over his lard behind is just a huge waste of time but carry on
My lawd what an idiot you are. AND...not an American. You are the every day democrat POS. Not even close to being an American. It will be SO fun to come back on election day and see you cry like the sissy that you are! LOL While we are talking...PLEASE share EVERYTHING you can to leet us ALL know what is better in America today....than when Trump was in office. THIS is what matters, not your little communist leaning feelings, son.
 
Apparently there is a surprise witness today for the defense in Robert Costello, Cohen's former defense attorney. Claims are that Cohen never proved that Trump directed Cohen to pay Stormy Daniels in his previous trial. Get the popcorn popping.
As the legendary Rush Limbaugh would say 'this is SUCH a teachable moment!"

All of liberal Twitter was abuzz yesterday with the rumor that a SURPRISE WITNESS would be testifying before the grand jury today, and that the witness was GOING TO BE THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR TRUMP! I'm sure ray ray started at least 15 threads about this with Yahoo articles. Trump's done now!!!

As Navi said, it turns out the surprise witness was FOR TRUMP and will be testifying that there's NO CASE! LOL

This is how the sheep get hoodwinked by the media. The media KNEW who was testifying today, but they intentionally claimed it was AGAINST Trump. So all the sheep get excited, they got Trump this time!

Then when the truth comes out and we find out the media lied to the sheep, what do the sheep do?

Blame Trump. Because....of course. How many times has @jimbo1313R complained about how he's so damn sick and tired of Teflon Don always skating????? @gatorspeed is just as gullible.

The media literally preys on the slow-witted. Trump hasn't skated on anything. The left keeps bringing charges that would never stick, so when they don't, the media spins that TRUMP GOT AWAY WITH IT AGAIN!

And the knuckledraggers bleat the same. Hey jimbo and speed, you too ray ray. Pull up your Cheetos couch and listen close:

You dorks deserve EVERY second of this!
 
As the legendary Rush Limbaugh would say 'this is SUCH a teachable moment!"

All of liberal Twitter was abuzz yesterday with the rumor that a SURPRISE WITNESS would be testifying before the grand jury today, and that the witness was GOING TO BE THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR TRUMP! I'm sure ray ray started at least 15 threads about this with Yahoo articles. Trump's done now!!!

As Navi said, it turns out the surprise witness was FOR TRUMP and will be testifying that there's NO CASE! LOL

This is how the sheep get hoodwinked by the media. The media KNEW who was testifying today, but they intentionally claimed it was AGAINST Trump. So all the sheep get excited, they got Trump this time!

Then when the truth comes out and we find out the media lied to the sheep, what do the sheep do?

Blame Trump. Because....of course. How many times has @jimbo1313R complained about how he's so damn sick and tired of Teflon Don always skating????? @gatorspeed is just as gullible.

The media literally preys on the slow-witted. Trump hasn't skated on anything. The left keeps bringing charges that would never stick, so when they don't, the media spins that TRUMP GOT AWAY WITH IT AGAIN!

And the knuckledraggers bleat the same. Hey jimbo and speed, you too ray ray. Pull up your Cheetos couch and listen close:

You dorks deserve EVERY second of this!
Ghost I’m heading out to buy you your own personal sheep! She’s fluffy and white for you
 
Leftists are stupid- they fall for anything: RussiaGate, Global Warming, Trump-Ukraine Quid Pro Quo, Trump Top Secret Docs while China Joe is okay w beyond Top Secret docs…

Leftists are stupid- they continually prove this!
 
Leftists are stupid- they fall for anything: RussiaGate, Global Warming, Trump-Ukraine Quid Pro Quo, Trump Top Secret Docs while China Joe is okay w beyond Top Secret docs…

Leftists are stupid- they continually prove this!
You would THINK they would eventually learn...but when a rock has the same brain power as they do, it becomes very clear
 
If campaign funds, and assuming that law is governed by federal statute, why is Alvin Bragg bringing the case?
Bingo. And if this was a case that could be won, why did the prosecutors at the FEDERAL level pass?

To a NY DA who doesn't have jurisdiction. And he sat on it for.....7 years.

Huh. Critical thinker almost suspects this isn't a legitimate case. Critical thinker also isn't surprised that the usual suspects ITT took the bait.
 
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Leftists are stupid- they fall for anything: RussiaGate, Global Warming, Trump-Ukraine Quid Pro Quo, Trump Top Secret Docs while China Joe is okay w beyond Top Secret docs…

Leftists are stupid- they continually prove this!
Then why won't @RayGravesGhost vote in my Trump poll?

Are they dumb and gullible? Yes. But when push comes to shove, even the sheep admit they know Trump did nothing wrong.
 
No, you're missing the point.

Bill Clinton settled out of court. It's a payoff nothing illegal about that.

The alleged complaint is that Trump diverted campaign funds to pay two women not to speak to the media about alleged affairs.

The campaign funds is what makes it illegal and the crucial difference here.
? How is a for profit corp writing a check for one of its executives to a lawyer a diversion of campaign funds?
 
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