I have no issue with the peaceful march. I hope the antifa and BLM thugs were taking notes.
No Bama football for me this year
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I have no issue with the peaceful march. I hope the antifa and BLM thugs were taking notes.
The FBI stats don't match the BLM narrative. I have no issue with the players and Saban doing what they did...we simply disagree substantively.
So, if some white kids were peacefully marching and holding up KKK signs, could they too express themselves verbally without it being said that they also support the KKK organization??? 😏
Come on TG, you're not usually this duplicitous...
They could easily make up their own signs with something like Racial Equality on them.
I am not cutting anyone slack on this.
Its a false narrative and needs to end. There is no institutional or systemic racism in this country and hasn't been any for decades.
There can be no normalization between races until the agitation, grievance politics and race baiting ends. These peaceful marches by athletes are a problem not a solution. It furthers the false narrative.
This is a Trojan horse being used to undermine the culture.
I would like to see some reform in how police execute their duties. But it has nothing to do with race.
Its a false narrative and needs to end. There is no institutional or systemic racism in this country and hasn't been any for decades.
There can be no normalization between races until the agitation, grievance politics and race baiting ends. These peaceful marches by athletes are a problem not a solution. It furthers the false narrative.
This is a Trojan horse being used to undermine the culture.
I would like to see some reform in how police execute their duties. But it has nothing to do with race.
I've walked the streets of East Cleveland. Grandma can't let kids play out on the sidewalk. Drive by shooters. Grandma is no fan of BLM or Saban. Grandma does not want police defunded.
BLM does not give a mouse's hiney about East Cleveland, Jersey City or South Chicago's grandmas and grandkids.
As a "professional tourist" from 1991 to April, 2003, space does not permit to list all the inner cities I've looked at right up close. There ain't a whole bunch of BLM fans. There's a BUNCH of police fans. A poll I just saw said 4 out of 5.
BLM does not give a mouse's hiney about East Cleveland, Jersey City or South Chicago's grandmas and grandkids.
As a "professional tourist" from 1991 to April, 2003, space does not permit to list all the inner cities I've looked at right up close. There ain't a whole bunch of BLM fans. There's a BUNCH of police fans. A poll I just saw said 4 out of 5.
The only difference is Ku Klux Klan is not a phrase. It means nothing as a statement in verbage terms. Saying a particular group of lives matter is a verbage term(rather it is agreed upon or not) however there is a terrorist organization who has named themselves the verbage term.
On the other hand, I'm sure CNN, MSNBC, etc would cry a cry if a group walked peacefully with signs saying White Lives Matter, Blue Lives Matter, or All Lives Matter.
But I'm not talking about the news and all such. If some UF football players walked peacefully with some political signage I wasn't into I would still watch the game and team I've grown up loving.
Good for you. Not everyone feels the same. And you have to remember that for a lot of us, this isn't an isolated incident, we've seen the same in almost every sport. If this was only happening in college football, it would probably be easier to overlook.
Brian Urlacher made a valid point. Brett Favre loses his father and goes to work and kicks ass. The NBA sits out because a guy is breaking an order of protection.
Do I think 7 shots are excessive? Yes I do but he was not innocent by any means.
BTW, the 7 shots thing is more about training than anything else. LEO's are taught to not shoot until it's absolutely necessary and then to not stop shooting until the threat is no longer a threat. That means you shoot until the subject falls down or clearly stops doing the behavior that you believed was a threat to public safety.
However anyone phrases the above, it’s absolutely the purview of the defender to continue aggressive action until the threat is adequately suppressed
Maybe we can argue what adequately suppressed might mean......but that’s how many angels dance on the head of a pin. The reality is if a person in uniform is attacked, they should pursue defense aggressively .....if a citizen is presented untoward aggression from the police, they should pursue defense aggressively
The best outcome is if both sides are willing to not escalate into the next level of hell ...... but then.... rampant examples manifest
Every single time a situation escalates for me at work, it puts me in harms way. So, to your point, it is absolutely best if neither side attempts, or makes necessary, any sort of escalation.
And remember, whatever the suspect does, LE will typically match said escalation and then exceed it one level. They touch, we push. They push, we strike....and so on. That's not out of meanness or a power trip. It's to give us a better chance of getting home that night.
Watching UF support BLM is a principle turning point for me. 👺
You are of course welcome to your own opinions on the matter, as am I.
Gator scholarship athletes ARE UF when they march in that manner.
To them I would continue to say that either ALL LIVES MATTER, OR NONE DO.... 🤓
Play football.
If they want to walk hand-in-hand, arm locks or skip along together on their own time, then go for it.
As I much as the next guy want to come home after a weeks hard work and all else involved in the world and just relax and watch a competition that escapes from the daily grind.
The things that Tebow and Wuerffel to a lesser extent were publicized. Did you want them to just ",Play Football"?
Tebow didn't politicize it. He didn't intentionally turn the spotlight on himself and he certainly didn't kneel during the Anthem.
Many on the left wanted him to do just that. Remember how his eye paint pissed them off?
All college football games I've been to since around 2005(and pre 9/11), the players are in the locker room during the anthem.
As did some of his interviews that he mentioned Jesus or ended it with "God Bless"...so we want the majority to be like the crybabies of the eye paint?
Oh, well honestly, I was thinking of him in the pros where he was chastised by the NFL and abandoned by the Christians who did nothing to challenge the insult to his simple act of faith.
I choose to support this country, our military, law enforcement (not the occasional rogue) and the rights of all citizens and if it means giving up sports so be it.
Players asked him to join and delay the scrimmage. Mullen did not march in front for the cameras like Saban.
I do as well. Support all you've said. I will support the rights of all citizens to peacefully march for their cause rather I support it or not. I'll continue to watch sports until they do something violent or cause physical harm.
On a scale of 0-10 with 10 being completely agreeing with you, I'd have to say I'm a 5. 10 on your first comments and zero on the last sentence. They need to just leave everything off the field. If they want to use their names and do whatever they want whether college or pro, fine, and I'll be more biased to them personally, but when it enters the confines of the NFL and college sports arenas then I'm done.
We are talking off the field, in the original topic is about a coach and players walking down the street 3 plus weeks before their season starts.
Yeah, perhaps I needed to clarify that it's the actions of a team. OU did the same thing and it frustrated me. It made me angry because they could and should talk these things out with the team behind closed doors, but once they make it a spectacle for all to see then it becomes more than it should and it doesn't help the matter at all - except it probably made the players feel better. It alienates people and disrupts what they are there for. It's the same adage with Hollywood. Heck, I can't watch another movie with certain actors in them - and I do my best to do that too. My wife thinks I'm a kook but I stick to it.
I feel your pain. Most HCs' will pander to their athletes or see the backlash from espn and other liberal media outlets. This is a PR stunt, IMO. However, we don't know his heart (only God truly knows).
Deal with it.... 🤓
Political Activist Christian Walker (Herschel's son) Says Black Lives Matter Movement Is
‘A Domestic Terrorist Organization’
The University of Alabama football team features a Black Lives Matter flag as they march on campus in support of the Black Lives Matter movement, Monday, Aug. 31, 2020, in Tuscaloosa, Ala.
OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 7:33 AM PT – Wednesday, September 2, 2020
"It’s a “terrorist organization.” During a recent interview, Christian Walker said, “anybody who honestly cares about black people can not support Black Lives Matter.”
(Somebody needs to introduce clueless Scottie Lewis, among other Gator S/A's, to Christian Walker)
Walker, who is the son of former football star and 2020 RNC speaker Herschel Walker, said he believes President Trump treats every American the same unlike his Democrat opponents who instead encourage violence and looting.
“Black Lives Matter should be about all black lives, it should be about black on black crime in Chicago, it should be about father absence and how that affects black children,” he explained. “BLM is a disgusting name for an organization that hates black men and hates black people…you’re a domestic terrorist organization.”
For the rest of the story: https://www.oann.com/political-acti...ovement-is-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/
Political Activist Christian Walker (Herschel's son) Says Black Lives Matter Movement Is
‘A Domestic Terrorist Organization’
The University of Alabama football team features a Black Lives Matter flag as they march on campus in support of the Black Lives Matter movement, Monday, Aug. 31, 2020, in Tuscaloosa, Ala.
OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 7:33 AM PT – Wednesday, September 2, 2020
"It’s a “terrorist organization.” During a recent interview, Christian Walker said, “anybody who honestly cares about black people can not support Black Lives Matter.”
(Somebody needs to introduce clueless Scottie Lewis, among other Gator S/A's, to Christian Walker)
Walker, who is the son of former football star and 2020 RNC speaker Herschel Walker, said he believes President Trump treats every American the same unlike his Democrat opponents who instead encourage violence and looting.
“Black Lives Matter should be about all black lives, it should be about black on black crime in Chicago, it should be about father absence and how that affects black children,” he explained. “BLM is a disgusting name for an organization that hates black men and hates black people…you’re a domestic terrorist organization.”
For the rest of the story: https://www.oann.com/political-acti...ovement-is-a-domestic-terrorist-organization/
I do think folks who want to end police brutality and/or racism need to come up with better verbage. Anything related to the term BLM is too similar to the piss poor organization.
Agree. Now if we could change "end police brutality" with "eliminate rogue police officers from the police force" we would be well on our way down a path that most citizens could get behind.
That said, if person X violently resists arrest, even if he REALLY disagrees with his arrest, he is the one putting lives at risk...including his own.
Court is where we determine innocence or guilt...and we don't hold court curbside where the officers are making arrests.
Agree. But I also support their right for PEACEFUL protest...even when they're wrong-headed.
Absolutely not. However, Tebow's 3:16 seems a lot less offensive than celebrating an accused sex offender who was shot in the act of resisting arrest after showing up at the victims residence uninvited, unwelcomed and unlawfully.
At best, if 3:16 bothers you...then you're griping about a message that begins with, "For God so loved the world...."
And by "you," i don't mean you "you"....i mean them you.
“We’re ok with politics in sport...as long as it aligns with our beliefs....
those other politics in sports are very offensive...”
lol...
those other politics in sports are very offensive...”
lol...
Oh please. Get over it. Have a bourbon and calm down. sadgator loves the fact that Ghost says he won’t watch Alabama this year...riiiight...of course you won’t...
I'll still watch Gator sports on TV, but that's it for me until things change at UF.
