New Green Deal doesn't even get enough votes to open for debate

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Measure failed 57-0 with most of the dems refusing to vote at all.

Sheep do you understand why that's important? Same politicians that have convinced you that the world would die in 12 years due to man-made climate change, wouldn't even vote to open DEBATE on a bill that would address all the problems they CLAIM exist.

These politicians just confirmed to you that they know man-made climate change is a hoax. I mean.....@bsc911 @bradleygator @SoProudNole @BoxofFrogs @WorldSeriesChamps2015 you guys ARE smart enough to see that, right?

 

[DGlockUF]

Big Fossil buys our elected officials; they've been compromised. We must move our energy systems to the future of renewables.

 

[AgentOrange2217]

Note the dems (the establishment) response about the GND and Medicare for all...opposing AOC, Bernie, Tulsi (on military matters-foreign intervention-regime change)...and you see for a party that is supposedly anti-big business...they (the dem establishment) know who their big corporate donors are (the same ones the repubs use)...so, at this point...I believe anything and everything will be done to prevent Bernie, Tulsi, and similar folks from ever getting the dem nomination for 2020...too much money at stake...well, that's how I see it...the dem nominee will be a part of the establishment...remember, Debbie Wasserman Schults said in the lead up to the 2016 election that the dems wouldn't allow a grassroots candidate win...and he didn't (Bernie)...I suspect Bernie will not win again in advance of 2020.

Agent Orange

 

[DGlockUF]

Note the dems (the establishment) response about the GND and Medicare for all...opposing AOC, Bernie, Tulsi (on military matters-foreign intervention-regime change)...and you see for a party that is supposedly anti-big business...they (the dem establishment) know who their big corporate donors are (the same ones the repubs use)...so, at this point...I believe anything and everything will be done to prevent Bernie, Tulsi, and similar folks from ever getting the dem nomination for 2020...too much money at stake...well, that's how I see it...the dem nominee will be a part of the establishment...remember, Debbie Wasserman Schults said in the lead up to the 2016 election that the dems wouldn't allow a grassroots candidate win...and he didn't (Bernie)...I suspect Bernie will not win again in advance of 2020.

Agent Orange

The obstacles are strong, yes. But look at what has changed since Bernie's 2016 campaign: numerous dem presidential candidates are now supporting policies that Sanders has been pushing for his entire political career. Also, progressives are running and winning against corporate dems. AOC ousted a entrenched rep in Crowley with grassroots organizing and volunteers with a fraction of his campaign funding. The party is being changed from the inside out.

 

[gatordad3]

Measure failed 57-0 with most of the dems refusing to vote at all.

Sheep do you understand why that's important? Same politicians that have convinced you that the world would die in 12 years due to man-made climate change, wouldn't even vote to open DEBATE on a bill that would address all the problems they CLAIM exist.

These politicians just confirmed to you that they know man-made climate change is a hoax. I mean.....@bsc911 @bradleygator @SoProudNole @BoxofFrogs @WorldSeriesChamps2015 you guys ARE smart enough to see that, right?

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

See where AOClueless chastises Pubs for not supporting the Green Deal. The Pubs in the Senate want allow the Dimms to stop the rain in Nebraska and drowning all those people.

 

[BoxofFrogs]

Measure failed 57-0 with most of the dems refusing to vote at all.

Sheep do you understand why that's important? Same politicians that have convinced you that the world would die in 12 years due to man-made climate change, wouldn't even vote to open DEBATE on a bill that would address all the problems they CLAIM exist.

These politicians just confirmed to you that they know man-made climate change is a hoax. I mean.....@bsc911 @bradleygator @SoProudNole @BoxofFrogs @WorldSeriesChamps2015 you guys ARE smart enough to see that, right?

Don't have any idea why you included me in this topic of yours!
I just like to sit around here in my man cave wearing nothing but
my BVD's and my tin foil hat. Since YOU have brought it up, here
is my two cents on the New Green Deal. I think this NGD is nothing
but a ploy to implement a carbon tax. that carbon tax passed the house
back in 2008 or 2009 i think, but died in the senate. Right here is who
folks best be worrying about. Take it to the bank Shepherd Boy.
"They're Coming" Maybe not in our lifetime but they're coming!
Oh yea, one last thing. Election time is just around the corner so
in my opinion i think the Dems didn't want this GND vote on they're
resume at this moment in time. Maybe after the election they will fine tune it.

"The Green New Deal is sort of an aspirational resolution," said Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., who introduced a similar carbon tax bill in December with former Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz. "I do think putting a price on carbon will end up being a part of whatever the caucus-wide position ends up being."

Rooney and Costello view carbon pricing as the most realistic path for Republicans to support, because of its market-oriented focus on raising the price of carbon-intensive products, encouraging producers to switch to cleaner alternatives if doing so costs less than paying the tax.

"Republicans should really be putting their thinking hats on and saying a carbon tax is the most efficient, least regulatory, least big government way to price coal out of existence and start to lower the amount of carbon in our atmosphere, and warding off worse ideas like the Green New Deal," Rooney said. "It would help our standing with the American people to show our party can do something about climate change without having to go to socialism."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-the-green-new-deal-as-a-blow-to-their-cause

 

[bradleygator]

Green New Deal was stupid. What the hell do poor people care about the environment. AOC should keep talking about printing money and giving it to poor people instead of printing it and giving it to Wall Street.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Note the dems (the establishment) response about the GND and Medicare for all...opposing AOC, Bernie, Tulsi (on military matters-foreign intervention-regime change)...and you see for a party that is supposedly anti-big business...they (the dem establishment) know who their big corporate donors are (the same ones the repubs use)...so, at this point...I believe anything and everything will be done to prevent Bernie, Tulsi, and similar folks from ever getting the dem nomination for 2020...too much money at stake...well, that's how I see it...the dem nominee will be a part of the establishment...remember, Debbie Wasserman Schults said in the lead up to the 2016 election that the dems wouldn't allow a grassroots candidate win...and he didn't (Bernie)...I suspect Bernie will not win again in advance of 2020.

Agent Orange

As horrible of a person as Hillary is, she was still less of a threat to this country than Bernie and the like are. That's about the closest I can come to giving crooked Hillary a compliment. I feel dirty.

 

[GADAWGinIraq]

Green New Deal was stupid. What the hell do poor people care about the environment. AOC should keep talking about printing money and giving it to poor people instead of printing it and giving it to Wall Street.

Seems like she likes giving money to herself and her boyfriend.
Congress... they're all crooks.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

With Hillree, 2018 GDP growth would have been 1.6 percent. Sotomayor II and III would sit on the Supreme Court. Baltimore and Chicago inner city crime would be setting new records. Gay Bay would be spending double on human defecation maps. Putin would be running unchecked in Eastern Europe with Maxine thinking Korea. Kim Un would be testing long range rocket delivery systems.

Can anyone present a plausible argument? I didn't think so.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

The obstacles are strong, yes. But look at what has changed since Bernie's 2016 campaign: numerous dem presidential candidates are now supporting policies that Sanders has been pushing for his entire political career. Also, progressives are running and winning against corporate dems. AOC ousted a entrenched rep in Crowley with grassroots organizing and volunteers with a fraction of his campaign funding. The party is being changed from the inside out.

And none of them have a snowball's chance of winning anything. 'Clean' energy does plenty of damage to the environment, just FYI.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Green New Deal was stupid. What the hell do poor people care about the environment. AOC should keep talking about printing money and giving it to poor people instead of printing it and giving it to Wall Street.

That message would sell better under obama when the economy was already shit.