New definition of man and woman.

[kalimgoodman]

As a man of science. I hate this so much.

Cambridge Dictionary’s definitions for ‘man’ and ‘woman’ now include trans people

Cambridge Dictionary's definitions for 'man' and 'woman' now include trans people | CNN

It's the latest dictionary to broaden its lexicon to reflect evolving language around gender.

www.cnn.com

 

[NavigatorII]

As a man of science. I hate this so much.

Cambridge Dictionary’s definitions for ‘man’ and ‘woman’ now include trans people

Cambridge Dictionary's definitions for 'man' and 'woman' now include trans people | CNN

It's the latest dictionary to broaden its lexicon to reflect evolving language around gender.

www.cnn.com

That's ridiculous. WTF is wrong with society today?

 

[fatman76]

As a man of science. I hate this so much.

Cambridge Dictionary’s definitions for ‘man’ and ‘woman’ now include trans people

Cambridge Dictionary's definitions for 'man' and 'woman' now include trans people | CNN

It's the latest dictionary to broaden its lexicon to reflect evolving language around gender.

www.cnn.com

Welcome to the party hombre

 

[kalimgoodman]

Changing a definition because people think differently now is stupid.

 

[NavigatorII]

Changing a definition because people think differently now is stupid.

Because "feelings". I'm glad you see the light on at least this topic.

 

[fatman76]

Changing a definition because people think differently now is stupid.

It’s the woke movement.

If your definition is “Adult female human” you’re going to get cancelled.

But the irony is unless you can define both words the entire construct of gender falls apart…which may be the goal.

 

[kalimgoodman]

It's not a woke left movement. Just more of trans people being accepted but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to change definitions.

 

[ghost_of_ukalum1988]

Changing a definition because people think differently now is stupid.

Agree but this is how the woke crowd operates… and if you disagree you’ll be criticized / condemned / cancelled.

 

[fatman76]

It's not a woke left movement. Just more of trans people being accepted but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to change definitions.

So you think trans people have all the power here? Really?

They are the means to an end. Gender, Economic and Racial Equity is the program, and it’s central to the push for Woke.

They are trying to own the language.

Have you ever read 1984?

 

[kalimgoodman]

You guys like to blame everything on WOKE without knowing what it is. This isn’t it. Woke is about race and social justice. You guys are letting the right tell you lies. Gender stuff isn't WOKE related. Every change in the world isn't because of WOKEism.

 

[NavigatorII]

You guys like to blame everything on WOKE without knowing what it is. This isn’t it. Woke is about race and social justice. You guys are letting the right tell you lies. Gender stuff isn't WOKE related. Every change in the world isn't because of WOKEism.

Have you read 1984? Seriously. It might be an epiphany for you.

 

[BamaFan1137]

You guys like to blame everything on WOKE without knowing what it is. This isn’t it. Woke is about race and social justice. You guys are letting the right tell you lies. Gender stuff isn't WOKE related. Every change in the world isn't because of WOKEism.

That might be how you and others of a similar mindset define woke...and maybe the word is being stolen from you, but woke is about perceived social injustices, period.

Be they racial, gender...whatever.

But let's be clear, you're arguing over the definition of a slang word here (woke) in a thread about how actual words are being redefined. That's ridiculous.

 

[NavigatorII]

That might be how you and others of a similar mindset define woke...and maybe the word is being stolen from you, but woke is about perceived social injustices, period.

Be they racial, gender...whatever.

But let's be clear, you're arguing over the definition of a slang word here (woke) in a thread about how actual words are being redefined. That's ridiculous.

Give him long enough and he'll deflect himself out of his previous position. You really can't make this kind of behavior up! 😂 Any psychologists on board? There's got to be a clinical term for this? Pathological ________?

 

[BayouGator1995]

As a man of science. I hate this so much.

Cambridge Dictionary’s definitions for ‘man’ and ‘woman’ now include trans people

Cambridge Dictionary's definitions for 'man' and 'woman' now include trans people | CNN

It's the latest dictionary to broaden its lexicon to reflect evolving language around gender.

www.cnn.com

Well, these are the people you supported bro. Now those chickens have come home to roost.

 

[BCSpell]

As a man of science. I hate this so much.

So, your saying your a biologist and you know the difference between a man and a woman?

 

[BayouGator1995]

Give him long enough and he'll deflect himself out of his previous position. You really can't make this kind of behavior up! 😂 Any psychologists on board? There's got to be a clinical term for this? Pathological ________?

Looking Glass Theory perhaps?

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Changing a definition because people think differently now is stupid.

Just so that you know...this stuff ALL comes from your side of the aisle....100% of it

 

[Capt Ron 1]

You guys like to blame everything on WOKE without knowing what it is. This isn’t it. Woke is about race and social justice. You guys are letting the right tell you lies. Gender stuff isn't WOKE related. Every change in the world isn't because of WOKEism.

I think this article would 100% disagree with your take

'Woke' London museum to change name of Christmas exhibit to 'Winter Festival'

The Museum of the Home, a well-known London museum, is changing the name of its Christmas exhibit to the "Winter Festival" in an attempt to be more inclusive.

www.foxnews.com

 

[kalimgoodman]

That might be how you and others of a similar mindset define woke...and maybe the word is being stolen from you, but woke is about perceived social injustices, period.

Be they racial, gender...whatever.

But let's be clear, you're arguing over the definition of a slang word here (woke) in a thread about how actual words are being redefined. That's ridiculous.

I didn't bring up WOKE, this wasn't about WOKE. This thread is about, how some of these changes are going to far and lacks sense. We can agree that we dislike the new definition and we can also disagree on how we got to that point.

You guys think it's the WOKE movement and I think it's the alphabet movement, that started WAY before WOKE was a thing. This was always apart of what they wanted to do.

 

[kalimgoodman]

I think this article would 100% disagree with your take

'Woke' London museum to change name of Christmas exhibit to 'Winter Festival'

The Museum of the Home, a well-known London museum, is changing the name of its Christmas exhibit to the "Winter Festival" in an attempt to be more inclusive.

www.foxnews.com

How so?

This is a right wing article calling a change WOKE. This article actually proves my point, that every change is tied to Woke by the far right. At no point and time did that museum mention the world WOKE.

 

[BamaFan1137]

I didn't bring up WOKE, this wasn't about WOKE.

I didn't say that you did. But we were still debating what woke meant because you didn't agree with how it was being used.

If the definitions of the word man and woman can be altered, I'm not shocked that the same is true about the slang word "woke."

 

[fatman76]

I didn't bring up WOKE, this wasn't about WOKE. This thread is about, how some of these changes are going to far and lacks sense. We can agree that we dislike the new definition and we can also disagree on how we got to that point.

You guys think it's the WOKE movement and I think it's the alphabet movement, that started WAY before WOKE was a thing. This was always apart of what they wanted to do.

You're so completely ignorant on this, it's actually breathtaking. Woke goes back the '40's and has its roots in the anti-racism movement.

Both the left and the right agree that current gender ideology is a direct result of the push for a new reinvigorated version of woke, which now applies more broadly to all social justice issues. It started in far-left academia and has now spread into the mainstream culture. It is a spin off of Critical Theory and is part of the cultural shift being imposed on all of us.

Have you ever wondered why we went from "let us do what we want in the privacy of our bedrooms" to "it's violence to not use ze/zem pronouns when you address me"? (and more importantly, do you understand the implication of that distinction?)

That's a direct result of the push from academia to popular/mainstream culture and it's all part of the same critical theory movement to redefine and reshape our culture - they change the meaning of words, what's acceptable and not acceptable in how we address each other, what is and isn't considered acceptable in different areas of our lives, and it's used a tool to categorize and marginalize those who resist it.

And it's being pushed and supported by the party you support. So if you keep voting the way you do you need to stop complaining.

There's a ton to read and learn here, you should do some research.

Where ‘woke’ came from and why marketers should think twice before jumping on the social activism bandwagon

The “woke” concept peaked on the back of the Black Lives Matter movement, then became a marketing trend. Now being woke is tricky territory.

theconversation.com

Woke Gender

A tale of two families. In February 2021, noted exponent of critical race theory (CRT) and author of How to be an Anti-Racist Ibram X. Kendi announced on a podcast that his kindergarten-age daughter told him and his wife that she wanted to become a boy. Kendi and his wife were “horrified” and...

www.heritage.org

LGBTQIA+ Inclusion: How “Woke” Are You? Identify Your Blind Spots and Create a Better Work Culture - The Forum on Workplace Inclusion

Unconscious bias (or implicit bias) is often defined as prejudice or unsupported judgments in favor of or against one thing, person or group as compared to another, in a way that is usually considered unfair. These biases may be held by an individual, group or institution and can have negative...

forumworkplaceinclusion.org

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[LauderdaleNole]

fatman76 and Bamafan1137 are articulating this perfectly.
The whole thing is a push to normalize humanity into a single bucket. No one is different than anyone else...physical appearance, gender, race, intelligence, financial on and on. Society has always pushed to bring the bottom up, but the Marxists have figured out that is futile, so they are bringing the top down. That's why the shift from equality to equity.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

As a man of science. I hate this so much.

Cambridge Dictionary’s definitions for ‘man’ and ‘woman’ now include trans people

Cambridge Dictionary's definitions for 'man' and 'woman' now include trans people | CNN

It's the latest dictionary to broaden its lexicon to reflect evolving language around gender.

www.cnn.com

 

[fatman76]

fatman76 and Bamafan1137 are articulating this perfectly.
The whole thing is a push to normalize humanity into a single bucket. No one is different than anyone else...physical appearance, gender, race, intelligence, financial on and on. Society has always pushed to bring the bottom up, but the Marxists have figured out that is futile, so they are bringing the top down. That's why the shift from equality to equity.

It's also part of the push for The Party and The State to be the central controlling figure in people's lives.

If you love and worship God, if you have a strong nuclear family, you aren't as dedicated to or reliant upon The State. And what better way to destroy the nuclear family than to sterilize and "transition" as many young people as possible. In order to have a true top-down autocracy you have to break those institutions down.

China is a good example of this - they limit the number of kids you can have, who owns the money, even your job. Religion is suppressed, as are freedoms like speech, movement, politics, the media, etc. The State controls nearly everything and the citizens are subservient to The State and The Party. The only really wealthy people in China work for the gov't (sometimes indirectly) because the gov't owns everything.

It's the path we're on. Hopefully people wake up soon, but given how divided we are I'm concerned. I'd hope even the craziest TDS Leftists in the US don't want to live like Chinese citizens do.

 

[LauderdaleNole]

It's also part of the push for The Party and The State to be the central controlling figure in people's lives.

If you love and worship God, if you have a strong nuclear family, you aren't as dedicated to or reliant upon The State. And what better way to destroy the nuclear family than to sterilize and "transition" as many young people as possible. In order to have a true top-down autocracy you have to break those institutions down.

China is a good example of this - they limit the number of kids you can have, who owns the money, even your job. Religion is suppressed, as are freedoms like speech, movement, politics, the media, etc. The State controls nearly everything and the citizens are subservient to The State and The Party. The only really wealthy people in China work for the gov't (sometimes indirectly) because the gov't owns everything.

It's the path we're on. Hopefully people wake up soon, but given how divided we are I'm concerned. I'd hope even the craziest TDS Leftists in the US don't want to live like Chinese citizens do.

I think we are in trouble.
The left has been brilliant in their successes to frame all issues as victim vs oppressor. That then appeals to the emotional side and divides us. They know they don't need a full-blown armed Marxist revolution when they can just vote it into power. The economic migrants flowing into the country are going to certainly side against the 'evil landowners'. All the Marxists have to do now is flood the country with enough of them, spread them out, and send ballots in the mail. It's staggering how many people have no idea what they're voting for. I used to think voter ID was solution...not anymore.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You guys like to blame everything on WOKE without knowing what it is. This isn’t it. Woke is about race and social justice. You guys are letting the right tell you lies. Gender stuff isn't WOKE related. Every change in the world isn't because of WOKEism.

Annnnnnndddd....yall got suckered in by the troll.

Every time this board takes @kalimgoodman seriously and as an honest poster, this is what happens.

He set it up as being about trans people cause he knew that someone would tie them to the left, then he pounced.

And the thread devolved exactly where he wanted to go, right-wing lies, right-wing sucks, etc etc etc.

This is why you never give a proven troll the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

Changing a definition because people think differently now is stupid.

Yes, but you being in bed with their politics is just the same as endorsing whatever idiotic scheme they contrive.

 

[kalimgoodman]

You're so completely ignorant on this, it's actually breathtaking. Woke goes back the '40's and has its roots in the anti-racism movement.

Both the left and the right agree that current gender ideology is a direct result of the push for a new reinvigorated version of woke, which now applies more broadly to all social justice issues. It started in far-left academia and has now spread into the mainstream culture. It is a spin off of Critical Theory and is part of the cultural shift being imposed on all of us.

Have you ever wondered why we went from "let us do what we want in the privacy of our bedrooms" to "it's violence to not use ze/zem pronouns when you address me"? (and more importantly, do you understand the implication of that distinction?)

That's a direct result of the push from academia to popular/mainstream culture and it's all part of the same critical theory movement to redefine and reshape our culture - they change the meaning of words, what's acceptable and not acceptable in how we address each other, what is and isn't considered acceptable in different areas of our lives, and it's used a tool to categorize and marginalize those who resist it.

And it's being pushed and supported by the party you support. So if you keep voting the way you do you need to stop complaining.

There's a ton to read and learn here, you should do some research.

Where ‘woke’ came from and why marketers should think twice before jumping on the social activism bandwagon

The “woke” concept peaked on the back of the Black Lives Matter movement, then became a marketing trend. Now being woke is tricky territory.

theconversation.com

Woke Gender

A tale of two families. In February 2021, noted exponent of critical race theory (CRT) and author of How to be an Anti-Racist Ibram X. Kendi announced on a podcast that his kindergarten-age daughter told him and his wife that she wanted to become a boy. Kendi and his wife were “horrified” and...

www.heritage.org

LGBTQIA+ Inclusion: How “Woke” Are You? Identify Your Blind Spots and Create a Better Work Culture - The Forum on Workplace Inclusion

Unconscious bias (or implicit bias) is often defined as prejudice or unsupported judgments in favor of or against one thing, person or group as compared to another, in a way that is usually considered unfair. These biases may be held by an individual, group or institution and can have negative...

forumworkplaceinclusion.org

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Ok, i really don't care to dive into this. Just say that I disagree. Start a WOKE thread or something.

 

[kalimgoodman]

Yes, but you being in bed with their politics is just the same as endorsing whatever idiotic scheme they contrive.

So does that makes you a racist? Because the racist people will say openly that republican policies/politics align with them.

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

So does that makes you a racist? Because the racist people will say openly that republican policies/politics align with them.

as are dims who created the KKK, Black Panthers, Antifa, and BLM. Either side has racist connections. That's just the way life is, Sir.

 

[kalimgoodman]

as are dims who created the KKK, Black Panthers, Antifa, and BLM. Either side has racist connections. That's just the way life is, Sir.

That is not what I asked. I know both sides have racist histories. I am just saying that current racist groups align with the Rs, so by YOUR own words. That makes you racist, right?

 

[Dr. Curmudgeon]

That is not what I asked. I know both sides have racist histories. I am just saying that current racist groups align with the Rs, so by YOUR own words. That makes you racist, right?

I am not part of any racist group, Sir? Are you a member of one? Conservative Christians are not at all racist in fact they are the most inclusive group there is. Because they accept all sinners.

 

[kalimgoodman]

I am not part of any racist group, Sir? Are you a member of one? Conservative Christians are not at all racist in fact they are the most inclusive group there is. Because they accept all sinners.

Nevermind, you missed the point

 

[fatman76]

Ok, i really don't care to dive into this. Just say that I disagree. Start a WOKE thread or something.

OK, but you really can't disagree with facts.

This isn't really a debate, it's you refusing to read and admit you're all wet here. I thought you loved to research?

Regardless, don't vote the way you vote and complain about it. It's hypocritical.

 

[kalimgoodman]

OK, but you really can't disagree with facts.

This isn't really a debate, it's you refusing to read and admit you're all wet here. I thought you loved to research?

Regardless, don't vote the way you vote and complain about it. It's hypocritical.

No, i just don't want to have a WOKE debate. This is one topic that I don't care for, like how I stayed out of the covid stuff and mostly out of discussing Hunter's laptop. Every topic isn't for me or even interest me.

My board statement on WOKE is the right associate everything new with WOKE. That's all I will say.

The changing of a dictionary word is nothing related to voting. Voting doesn't apply to this. You are trying too hard. Cambridge isn't even in the US LOL

 

[fatman76]

I think we are in trouble.
The left has been brilliant in their successes to frame all issues as victim vs oppressor. That then appeals to the emotional side and divides us. They know they don't need a full-blown armed Marxist revolution when they can just vote it into power. The economic migrants flowing into the country are going to certainly side against the 'evil landowners'. All the Marxists have to do now is flood the country with enough of them, spread them out, and send ballots in the mail. It's staggering how many people have no idea what they're voting for. I used to think voter ID was solution...not anymore.

Great post.

And it highlights how important controlling the meaning of words and the narrative are to The Left.

That's why they are losing their mind over Twitter. It turned someone they worshipped into literally the worst person on earth...all because he wants the 4th most visited site in the world to be free and fair in what language/thought it allows.

 

[fatman76]

No, i just don't want to have a WOKE debate. This is one topic that I don't care for, like how I stayed out of the covid stuff and mostly out of discussing Hunter's laptop. Every topic isn't for me or even interest me.

My board statement on WOKE is the right associate everything new with WOKE. That's all I will say.

The changing of a dictionary word is nothing related to voting. Voting doesn't apply to this. You are trying too hard. Cambridge isn't even in the US LOL

You can't separate the inability for Leftists to define "man" and "woman" from the woke cultural revolution they are forcing on us. Label it whatever you want, that part doesn't matter.

And it's not a US issue, but voting for people here that push it only makes it worse - and you complaining about it only makes you more of a hypocrite.

 

[fatman76]

Annnnnnndddd....yall got suckered in by the troll.

Every time this board takes @kalimgoodman seriously and as an honest poster, this is what happens.

He set it up as being about trans people cause he knew that someone would tie them to the left, then he pounced.

And the thread devolved exactly where he wanted to go, right-wing lies, right-wing sucks, etc etc etc.

This is why you never give a proven troll the benefit of the doubt.

I'm sitting here with feathers sticking out of my mouth promising I didn't eat the canary.

But it did lead to an interesting discussion with the non-trolls...so not a total waste of time.

 

[kalimgoodman]

You can't separate the inability for Leftists to define "man" and "woman" from the woke cultural revolution they are forcing on us. Label it whatever you want, that part doesn't matter.

And it's not a US issue, but voting for people here that push it only makes it worse - and you complaining about it only makes you more of a hypocrite.

Voting for left policies decides what a private company does in the UK? but ok